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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2010, 08:34:27 PM »
bench obama not only continued the patriot act but furthered its reach...

many of us including myself where against the patriot act when it was passed under bush and are still against it now....
i am aware...trust me, i know..

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2010, 09:48:38 PM »
He hacked into the potential VP email during an election...

while I agree that this kid isnt as bad as a pedo or rapist this crime goes far beyond simply hacking into an everyday persons email account...

and 333 is correct if a conservative kid his age did this to biden or hillary you would have msnbc and its hosts calling for blood on this as it should be...the only difference is they arent for his blood  ::)

its regretable that this kid is going to jail for likely a long time for being dumb ass but the message needs to be sent...I say anything less than 5 years is getting off easy...

 I'm not defending the guy let me be clear, what he did was wrong, he needs to take full responsibility for his actions and take it in the chin like a man,whatever his punishment will be, however, to say something like " I hope that little fag goes to a max security prison and is raped until he needs a colostomy bag" and wish him that...I find it a little disturbing. As my previous post said, if this were a pedophile I wouldn't have a problem with that .....
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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2010, 09:59:06 PM »
Palin is a total idiot but still has a right to privacy.

Your country did away with privacy rights a long time ago.

Not saying he's not guilty or that she deserved to be hacked, ...but lets get real here.
it's obvious no one in America gives a poop about privacy rights.

It's pretty scummy what hhe did, ...but I'm kind of glad he did.
Hopefully this teaches them BOTH a lesson, as it reveals to the public what an idiot she is.
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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2010, 01:07:48 AM »
Good.

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2010, 03:12:09 AM »
Your country did away with privacy rights a long time ago.

Not saying he's not guilty or that she deserved to be hacked, ...but lets get real here.
it's obvious no one in America gives a poop about privacy rights.

It's pretty scummy what hhe did, ...but I'm kind of glad he did.
Hopefully this teaches them BOTH a lesson, as it reveals to the public what an idiot she is.

Some time in jail will be good for him. It will also give the next idiot thinking about pulling crap like that something to consider.

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2010, 08:05:46 AM »
Yeah, because jail time has been such an effective deterrent in the past.  ::)

She didn't suffer serious harm, no huge financial loss, so give him an appropriate sentence and keep our jails open for people who really need to there.

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2010, 08:09:30 AM »
Yeah, because jail time has been such an effective deterrent in the past.  ::)

She didn't suffer serious harm, no huge financial loss, so give him an appropriate sentence and keep our jails open for people who really need to there.

At least now douchebags intent on pulling crap like that know jail time can happen.

Funny how people all in favor of civil liberties don't mind privacy being invaded when it's an unpopular person. Are we supposed to assign all rights on the basis of popularity?

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2010, 08:12:29 AM »
At least now douchebags intent on pulling crap like that know jail time can happen.

Funny how people all in favor of civil liberties don't mind privacy being invaded when it's an unpopular person. Are we supposed to assign all rights on the basis of popularity?

Come on, Doc. Liberals only care about civil liberties when it affects them or the people they champion. They go right out the window the second it involves someone they don't like.

Edit: I'm not referring to Skip.

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2010, 08:17:22 AM »
At least now douchebags intent on pulling crap like that know jail time can happen.

Right, because that's been so effective against drugs.  Great argument.  ::)


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Funny how people all in favor of civil liberties don't mind privacy being invaded when it's an unpopular person. Are we supposed to assign all rights on the basis of popularity?

Never said anything of the sort, just your made-up bullshit.  We can take privacy rights very seriously without having to resort to jail time for every infraction.

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2010, 08:24:21 AM »
Right, because that's been so effective against drugs.  Great argument.  ::)


Never said anything of the sort, just your made-up bullshit.  We can take privacy rights very seriously without having to resort to jail time for every infraction.

What should they have done... sent him to bed with no desert?! :)

Also, we (the US) enforces plenty of policies that don't work, like the Cuban embargo.

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2010, 08:30:32 AM »
I'm not defending the guy let me be clear, what he did was wrong, he needs to take full responsibility for his actions and take it in the chin like a man,whatever his punishment will be, however, to say something like " I hope that little fag goes to a max security prison and is raped until he needs a colostomy bag" and wish him that...I find it a little disturbing. As my previous post said, if this were a pedophile I wouldn't have a problem with that .....
just calling it like I see it, I would think a few months in county and maybe a few years probation would work.  He'll that's more than most hackers ever get.  Most hackers get away free.  The feds don't come down on them in mass because there is an industry built around guarding from it and it isn't good for business to fix the problem :D  Anyway, the kid is young, looks Jewish, so give him a break :D  some probation, make him think about it.  It's not like he killed someone....  He should pay a price, but not the kind of price that fucks his whole life.  Save that kind of shit for the real dirt bags.  Even 5 to 10 in prision will probably leave you worthless scum status for the rest of your life.  I would say the same if it were Obama's e-mail hacked. 

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #36 on: May 01, 2010, 08:37:03 AM »
What should they have done... sent him to bed with no desert?! :)

Also, we (the US) enforces plenty of policies that don't work, like the Cuban embargo.


No, I agree it has to sting hard.  A large fine that he'll be paying for some time, coupled with a boatload of community service (maybe make him shill for Palin's next campaign ;) ), probation, etc.

I'm not against jail time or even prison time if there is enough harm to the victim, I just don't think in this case that jail is warranted.

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2010, 09:13:16 AM »
What irritates me is the fact Parah Sailin is pushing for " consequences" for this poor kid yet when it comes to applying the same principles to her daughter who most likely committed some kind of illegality she is shielding her and using her influence to get her out of law's reach. Fukin hypocrite.



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As some of you may know I received a tip a few weeks back about Willow Palin and some potentially criminal behavior. What you don't know is that after initially being very anxious to tell their story, the sources got cold feet and became reticent to speak to me about it.

Many back and forth e-mails and conversations took place, but I was not able to convince them to come forward.  The stated reason was a desire for privacy and a fear of retribution from Sarah and Todd Palin who many in the Valley still find intimidating.

I had just about given up on getting any useful information, and then something rather fortunate happened.

The new upstart blog AlaskaWTF, put up this post.

Reading that the story was going to come out from another source (I sort of sent them the link to let them know), my sources decided that it was important to get the correct story published.

This is what I learned.

On December 13, a Wasilla homeowner discovered that the home they had for sale, but were no longer living in, had been broken into and vandalized.

The lock had been forced, five wooden doors had been so badly damaged they needed to be replaced, the walls and floors had been gouged with knives, and vodka and orange juice containers were strewn all over the house. It also appeared that sexual activity had taken place on some of the beds, and a computer, some winter gear, and clothing had all been stolen.

Calculations are that the home suffered between twenty to thirty thousand dollars in damage. Sources say it appeared the teens stayed in the house for several hours, perhaps even overnight.

The Troopers were quickly notified and the investigation began. And at first there were very few leads.

Then in January some information came to light which identified one of the perpetrators. This led to the revelation that the participants were 12 local teens who had used the empty house for a party, a party which had clearly spun badly out of control.

As you have undoubtedly surmised by now one of the teenagers identified was Willow Palin.

As the investigation progressed the children’s parents were notified one by one, including the Palins.

When Sarah was confronted with Willow’s involvement she at first said that it was impossible since Willow was out of town. However when Troopers interviewed the other teens, every single one of them identified Willow as a participant, and further revealed that it was she who directed the other teens to the house, which she knew to be empty, for the sole purpose of having a party. (In today's post AlaskaWTF called Willow the ringleader. Which is accurate in that it was she who knew the location of the house, but whether or not she was involved in the incredible destruction is still undetermined.)

Now confronted with this new information you may assume that the Palins would do the right thing and surrender their daughter to the authorities, allow her  to suffer the consequences of her actions,  and then treat this as a painful but necessary learning experience.

If you believed that for even an instant then you don’t know squat about Sarah Palin.

No instead Sarah circled the wagons (There are rumors she even hired legal counsel) and she started to call in favors. Scandal had to be avoided at all cost. (This was right around the time that her contract with Fox News was being announced.)

According to sources close to the Alaska State troopers there was a secret weekend meeting. This meeting took place between the Palin’s and some very highly placed people involved in the juvenile justice department.

Directly after this secret meeting the word came down to the juvenile justice probation officer, Chris Evans, that ONLY the boys who had participated would be charged with the crime. The girls would only be identified as “witnesses” and face no criminal penalties.

So of the eleven Palmer teens who accompanied Willow to the Wasilla house two or three of the participants are adults and will stand trial, the five boys will be charged as juveniles for breaking and entering and vandalism, however thanks to Sarah and Todd, the girls will essentially walk away free as little birdies. Which is in direct opposition to the wishes of the probation officer in charge of the case who wants to charge all to them equally.

This has made the State Troopers and those working in the juvenile justice department very, very unhappy. But there was nothing they could do, the Palins had connections, and for them apparently the law simply did not apply.

As of right now the Palins have not offered to pay for the damages to the property and have refused to allow Willow to suffer any significant consequences. And this is the example of personal responsibility and courage that certain members of the GOP believe would be a great leader for this country? Unbelievable isn’t it?

By the way, there are a couple of very interesting coincidences in this story. For one thing do any of you remember where Todd, Sarah, Piper, and Trig were headed to on December 14th, the day after this discovery?

Yep you are right! They were on their way to Hawaii!

Now would you fly off to Hawaii if your daughter had just been involved in a breaking and entering?

Probably not.

So it is conceivable that at this time Sarah would be completely unaware of the break in and her daughter's participation.

Now how long do you think it would take for SOMEBODY to start to panic and call mom? One day? Two days? Maybe it took three days?

Interesting, isn’t it? We all thought she came home out of embarrassment over the scrutiny she was receiving over her blacked out McCain visor and of course her legs, but in fact the hurried flight home may have been in response to this unfortunate incident.

Okay look I know I am going to receive a ton of negative blowback on this post (Boy wouldn’t THAT be a first!), so let me just say that this post is not a condemnation of Willow Palin. As many of you know I like Willow. In fact she has always been my favorite Palin.

As a kid everybody does stupid things, and I was certainly no exception. This is not about Willow making a bad choice. This is about the fact that Sarah Palin has a history of covering up for her children’s mistakes, and bullying people into staying quiet about it.

Willow could be charged right long with the other kids. As a first time offender she would probably pay a fine and do community service. When she turned eighteen her record would be scrubbed and she would walk away with a valuable life lesson. It might be embarrassing but it would also be the kind of experience that keeps a young person from making a similar mistake as an adult. Instead Willow is allowed to fly all over the country and get treated like a celebrity, while many of her friends are left back home in Alaska to face serious consequences.

And don’t think for one minute that Sarah Palin is doing this for her child. Sarah is doing this for Sarah. Having her fifteen year old connected to this crime would reflect poorly on Sarah's image as the perfect parent, in the perfect marriage, with the the perfect children.  We all know how laughable that is but it is the image that Palin has worked extremely hard to promote. And the one that her mindless acolytes swallow whole without question.

Any of us who are parents know that for Willow to learn about justice she needs to  face the consequences for her actions, just like everybody else who participated in this criminal behavior. By “protecting” her Sarah is teaching her that with enough money, or influence, the law cannot touch you. Is that really a lesson to teach your children only a few short years before you send them out to face the world on their own?

However this time Sarah may have made a very unfortunate calculation. Sarah counted on the people of the Mat-Su Valley to still be intimidated by her, but that may not in fact be the case. Sources have told me that a number of the parents are very unhappy that their children will face charges and that Willow and the other girls will not. Add to that the frustration being felt by the law enforcement professionals assigned to the Valley and I think we can count on this not being the last we hear about this unfortunate incident.

During a conversation with one of my sources I asked why people are still so intimidated by the Palins, and listened to a laundry list of shattered lives left in their wake.  Some I already knew, but a few I had never heard of before.  Sarah has been running roughshod over the people of the Mat-Su Valley since her days as mayor of Wasilla, as first pointed out in Anne Kilkenney's famous letter back in September 2008. and apparently nothing has changed. Nor will it until the people who have been bullied or victimized by her stand up and say, "Not just no, but HELL NO!"
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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2010, 09:49:31 AM »
Maybe he should be given the option of joining the military like Palins kid.  Surely she couldnt have any issue with that since it was OK for her kid. 

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2010, 10:10:01 AM »
Maybe he should be given the option of joining the military like Palins kid.  Surely she couldnt have any issue with that since it was OK for her kid. 

He'd never be able to pay off a fine.

Military would be funny but probably isn't legal to offer as an alternative to jail.

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2010, 10:29:53 AM »
He'd never be able to pay off a fine.

Military would be funny but probably isn't legal to offer as an alternative to jail.

the "alleged" story about Palins oldest spawn Track is that he enlisted in the military to avoid jailtime for tampering with the brakes on 40+ school busses.


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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2010, 10:34:42 AM »
National Enquirer strikes again.   ::)

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2010, 10:37:45 AM »
National Enquirer strikes again.   ::)

who quoted or referenced the National Enquirer?

there is no doubt that the school busses were tampered with and since the defendents were minors there is no public information but this happened in a small town and the "story" is out there

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2010, 10:39:01 AM »
hey don't talk about the holy one palin , shes the mother mary on this board ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #44 on: May 01, 2010, 10:47:44 AM »
hey don't talk about the holy one palin , shes the mother mary on this board ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

She's your next president.  Or do you live in Canada? 

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #45 on: May 01, 2010, 11:05:11 AM »
She's your next president.  Or do you live in Canada? 

Do you really believe that????  ;D She's a cash cow for a certain part of republican party ...but that's about it.
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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #46 on: May 01, 2010, 11:54:50 AM »
Do you really believe that????  ;D She's a cash cow for a certain part of republican party ...but that's about it.

I don't know.  Too early to tell.  But she's a great American and I'd prefer her to Obama, without question.

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #47 on: May 01, 2010, 11:58:38 AM »
yeah, any repub who chooses her over guys like Ryan, Thune and pawlenty...

well, youre making the 2008 mistake all over again.

60% of voters said she wasn't qualified to hold the VP job (fox moffit edison poll).
And, since then, she hasn't exactly earned a phd or anything.
She's quit her governor job, got a reality show, and read nice scripts on FOX twice a week.
Also got caught kneepadding on the rush/rahm double standard, and using the redneck palm pilot.

Beach bum, please please, help the GOp choose an electable canddiate in 2012.  an inexperienced kenyan with terrorist ties got the job beacuse repubs chose a senile man and palin in 2008.  Don't do it again.  thanks in advance :)

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #48 on: May 01, 2010, 12:05:48 PM »
 ::)  I guess I could kneepad for Obama, but you got that covered. 

I'll be voting for the person who I think will do the best job as president, and who has a legitimate shot to win.

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Re: Palin hacker found guilty on two counts in Federal Court
« Reply #49 on: May 01, 2010, 12:09:42 PM »
::)  I guess I could kneepad for Obama, but you got that covered. 

I'll be voting for the person who I think will do the best job as president, and who has a legitimate shot to win.

well it certainly won't be Palin by those standards