Real Pilots Speak Out on 911

[quadzilla456]

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debunking 9/11 ct's one at a time...

That video does not debunk anything. For all you know they could have carted in a few pieces of debris in a van / truck. Look at the high resolution photo above that shows an undisturbed lawn in front of a building that was supposed to have been hit by a huge airliner on the ground floor. Debunk that. Why is the grass undisturbed? Where's the debris?

[Skip8282]

Where is the 75 ft wide hole in this photo? This is the impact area that collapsed later. Come on you can do better than that!

As you seem to be having difficulty with reading comprehension, let me help you out.


The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact

A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University

What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass.

[quadzilla456]

As you seem to be having difficulty with reading comprehension, let me help you out.


The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact

A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University

What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass.

1. Where is the 75' hole?
2. Where is the damage to the grass and sidewalk in front of the building on the first floor where the "hole" is?

[tonymctones]

1. Where is the 75' hole?
2. Where is the damage to the grass and sidewalk in front of the building on the first floor where the "hole" is?

watch the video...

[quadzilla456]

watch the video...

Look at the photos...

[tonymctones]

Where are the skidmarks? If you believe the official story the claim is that the plane skidded into the building at an impossbile low altitude. Look at the grass in this photo! Where's the evidence that an airplane had just flown over this grass a couple of feet above the ground??! Real pilots have also stated it is first of all impossible to fly such a plane only a few feet off the ground unless you are landing it and then the nose is pointing up which would have made a hole higher up in the building.

actually I think the revised assesment is that it didnt skid...

and the cant fly a plane that low thing has been debunked as well...

[quadzilla456]

Where is the plane? This blurred streak across the lawn is not a plane.


This is the size of a plane.

[tonymctones]

Where is the plane? This blurred streak across the lawn is not a plane.


This is the size of a plane.

how do you know its not a plane?

your gif with the photo shopped plane in it is your proof? 

[quadzilla456]

actually I think the revised assesment is that it didnt skid...

and the cant fly a plane that low thing has been debunked as well...

Show me your evidence that a plane that size could fly so low without crashing into the ground. It would have destroyed the lawn as it crashed into the building. You claim it is debunked now convince me.

For the plane to penatrate the building at the ground level it would have skidded off the ground. The plane is over two stories tall and the major damage before the wall collapsed is on the ground level and part of the second floor.

There is no damage on the sidewalk or grass. It is impossible if a huge plane had crashed into the ground floor.

[quadzilla456]

how do you know its not a plane?

your gif with the photo shopped plane in it is your proof?  

The size of the plane dictates that it would occupy a larger portion of the screen than the official footage which does not - blurred or not blurred. You are a poster child for the argument that Americans are sheep and can't think for themselves. USA schools breed people that can't question with logic. USA was built by immigrants from Europe and Asia that could think for themselves and were unmolested by a compromised system that breeds ignorance.

[tonymctones]

The size of the plane dictates that it would occupy a larger portion of the screen than the official footage which does not - blurred or not blurred. You are a poster child for the argument that Americans are sheep and can't think for themselves. USA schools breed people that can't question with logic. USA was built by immigrants from Europe and Asia that could think for themselves and were unmolested by a compromised system that breeds ignorance.

and you know this how? how fast was the plane traveling?

LOL im half immigrant  from asia

I am asking the questions your simply not answering them...

your answers so far are that the ppl never existed, they trucked in parts of the plane to pick them up later, and a gif with a photoshopped plane LMFAO...SERIOUSLY???

[quadzilla456]

and you know this how? how fast was the plane traveling?

LOL im half immigrant   from asia

I am asking the questions your simply not answering them...

your answers so far are that the ppl never existed, they trucked in parts of the plane to pick them up later, and a gif with a photoshopped plane LMFAO...SERIOUSLY???

From Purdue University's Study they show a size comparison of 757 and the Pentagon Building. Look how tall the tail is. And this plane is slammed to the ground like a ganster ride. Yet the official footage shows a blurred object not nearly the same size. THIS IS MY ANSWER - The size of the object in the video is not correct.



According to the ASCE report the plane was flying over 500 mph. I guess that backs up the theory that the lawn would have been toast as the slammed plane glided over the lawn a few inches / feet above the ground.

[quadzilla456]

and you know this how? how fast was the plane traveling?

LOL im half immigrant  from asia

I am asking the questions your simply not answering them...

your answers so far are that the ppl never existed, they trucked in parts of the plane to pick them up later, and a gif with a photoshopped plane LMFAO...SERIOUSLY???

Yes and if I told you before you were born and capable of abstract thought patterns that you would be a half immigrant Asian in America on a small planet in a big solar system that is part of a huge galaxy with millions of other galaxies in a vast Universe you would have probably said: LMFAO... SERIOUSLY??? or ... NO WAY??!! And I would have agreed with you! Now THAT is more difficult to believe than some fake plane flying into the Pentagon? Wouldn't you agree to that?!

[tonymctones]

From Purdue University's Study they show a size comparison of 757 and the Pentagon Building. Look how tall the tail is. And this plane is slammed to the ground like a ganster ride. Yet the official footage shows a blurred object not nearly the same size. THIS IS MY ANSWER - The size of the object in the video is not correct.
According to the ASCE report the plane was flying over 500 mph. I guess that backs up the theory that the lawn would have been toast as the slammed plane glided over the lawn a few inches / feet above the ground.

you should do a little more research on your on CT the purdue study is what skip is using to show youre wrong and youre trying to discredit in one post and cite it in another 

second again do some more research b/c if im not mistaken its believed now that the plane DID NOT SKIP!!!!!

so we have the plane/ppl/pilots on the flight never existed...what was it then that was showing up on radar as the plane?

why strike the pentegon?

[tonymctones]

oh ya quad please link your nuttery so I can see where youre getting these sources from... I saw loosechange.com on the bottom of one of your pics...you do know that movie has been debunked right? 

[Soul Crusher]

So who did it?  Navy pilot?  Air Firce Pilot?  Air to ground missle?  Ground to ground missle?  Who gave the order?  Do you realize that someone had to relay the meSSAGE RIGHT?

Also, no one at the hanger saw a missle missing?  Dont they keep inventory on all missles on planes via a ground crew?  They didnt see anything. 

No one in the air control saw something off?  Or was ait traffic control in on it too? 

[tonymctones]

So who did it?  Navy pilot?  Air Firce Pilot?  Air to ground missle?  Ground to ground missle?  Who gave the order?  Do you realize that someone had to relay the meSSAGE RIGHT?

Also, no one at the hanger saw a missle missing?  Dont they keep inventory on all missles on planes via a ground crew?  They didnt see anything. 

No one in the air control saw something off?  Or was ait traffic control in on it too? 

this is my question if there was no plane what was showing up on radar?

[Soul Crusher]

This is where the CT'ers piss me the fuck off beyond anything.  They refuse to look at the big picture of their own CT's and simply cant, wont, dont, defend their positions or claims. 

The missle theory probably requires at least 50 people in on it.   

[tonymctones]

This is where the CT'ers piss me the fuck off beyond anything.  They refuse to look at the big picture of their own CT's and simply cant, wont, dont, defend their positions or claims. 

The missle theory probably requires at least 50 people in on it.   

more than that, think about it the airport they took off from, the airport they were supposed to land at, the ppl on the plane, the pilots, the first responders, the "ppl that trucked in the plane wreckage" as quad would say, the ppl that saw the plane, the ppl that saw the plane on radar, the ppl that reported that they heard and saw cheney not order it shot down, the 9/11 commission...the list goes on and on...

then there is the burning question why? why shoot a missle at the pentegon?

[Soul Crusher]

I just want the CT'ers to at least present a plausible scenario to discuss that does not involve insults, conjecture, and even grander CT's/ 

If they believe its a missle, ok, lets discuss the logistics of a missle attack and really delve into how, who, and when this was hatched. 

[quadzilla456]

Here is a witness at Pentagon saying he heard what sounded like a low flying fighter jet and then he heard a massive explosion. The witness claims low flying fighter jets were a frequent occurence at Pentagon.

[quadzilla456]

9/11 CNN correspondent reports "no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the pentagon"

[LurkerNoMore]

If not a plane, then what was it?

And what about the people that perished on the "alleged" plane?

[Soul Crusher]

9/11 CNN correspondent reports "no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the pentagon"

He said there were small parts of the plane around. 

[quadzilla456]

He said there were small parts of the plane around. 

He does not say they are plane pieces. He says there are small pieces laying around that you can pick up with your hand. In the video he claims there is no evidence that a plane crashed anywhere near the Pentagon - at least from what he has observed.

My conclusion from this is that the small pieces he is referring to could be anything: office equipment, building material, cars etc. I am not sure how you know he is referring to the small pieces as plane debris because he does not claim that in the video.