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« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2010, 09:26:08 AM » |
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The only things on that menu that interest me are the onions, tuna, and Kashi cereal. Kashi makes the best cold cereal on the market. Love the stuff. Often eaten it 3 times a day.
yea it really is good
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« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2010, 12:40:22 PM » |
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Interesting thread, I'll stick around.
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« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2010, 12:33:56 PM » |
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1 Serving Kashi Honey Almond Flax Cereal 1 serving Chocolate Vanilla Brownie Ice Cream 1 Peanut Butter and Oats Fiber Bar 2 slices Smoked Provolone cheese
Calories-640
3 Large Slices Papa John`s The Works Pizza
Calories-990
1 Large Slice Papa John`s The Works Pizza
Calories- 330
Kashi Toasted Berry Crunch Cereal 1 cup of Milk
Calories-340
Strawberries with Nutella
Calories- 162
Chocolate Vanilla Brownie Ice Cream- 1 serving
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« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2010, 01:30:42 PM » |
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I did the same for 2009, logging everything I ate in a thread. We sure need more examples of non-masochistic diets.
Great thread, should be a sticky. Would be great if we could get some photos of the foods you cook yourself.
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« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2010, 01:59:10 PM » |
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Would either of you wavelength/Adonis be willing to post a pic from now and progress pics every few months in order for people to see what effect your diet is really having on your body? If either of you are interested PM me and I can start a thread on The Positive Board to keep the trolling bullshit out and maintain a serious thread.
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« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2010, 02:22:02 PM » |
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i pride myself on ignoring these broscience myths, and dealing with facts, but this is one i have believed for quite some time. i have already read a few studies and i am surprised by the results. the complete/incomplete protein recommendations do indeed appear to be a myth afterall  saying that i wonder why taking in leucine alone pre/post workout does not have the same effect as a whole protein source. every answer raises more questions it seems  let me make this simple for you and adonis... in order to build muscle, eat muscle.. there are eleven essential aamino acids that can not be created by the human body.. you must consume aquequate amounts of these... its is not about grams of protein, but more specifically about grams of protein containing all eleven amino acids. what do you think would happen if you consumed 500 grams of protein everyday but never consumed any branch chain amino acids ? (this diet is very highly unlikely to ever occur but what would happen if it did) the amount of muscle tissue in your body would start to slowly decline, regardless of any amount of other calories, drugs, or training
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« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2010, 02:25:37 PM » |
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Adonis, how much protein do you eat per day?
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« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2010, 02:28:11 PM » |
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let me make this simple for you and adonis... in order to build muscle, eat muscle.. there are eleven essential aamino acids that can not be created by the human body.. you must consume aquequate amounts of these...
its is not about grams of protein, but more specifically about grams of protein containing all eleven amino acids.
what do you think would happen if you consumed 500 grams of protein everyday but never consumed any branch chain amino acids ? (this diet is very highly unlikely to ever occur but what would happen if it did)
the amount of muscle tissue in your body would start to slowly decline, regardless of any amount of other calories, drugs, or training
Totally irrelevant if you eat like a normal human being. This is as silly as suggesting one eat nothing but cardboard, lightbulbs or jolly ranchers and nothing else. By default you will easily get a complete amino profile, especially when your food is varied and you are shooting for a minimum of about .5 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight a day.
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« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2010, 02:30:12 PM » |
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Adonis, how much protein do you eat per day?
It varies everyday, but I get at least .5 grams per lb of bodyweight on average. Most of the time I am much higher than that just by default of what I eat.
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« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2010, 02:41:08 PM » |
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Totally irrelevant if you eat like a normal human being. This is as silly as suggesting one eat nothing but cardboard, lightbulbs or jolly ranchers and nothing else.
By default you will easily get a complete amino profile, especially when your food is varied and you are shooting for a minimum of about .5 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight a day.
you said the idea of protein combination is a myth. it is not. the idea that the general public needs to pay special attention to their diets in order to get enough essential amino acids is a myth. the idea that a bodybuilder trying to gain muscle without eating foods that contain all of the essential amino acids would then have to make sure to be combining enough of the right types of foods in order to get enough of the key amino's to grow.... is not a myth. sure, the amount is not that high.. but to get 1 gram per lb lean body weight of complete protein without eating complete protein is going to take some effort. bodybuilders or those looking for muscle are mmuch better off eating complete protien sources.. mainly meat.
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« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2010, 03:28:26 PM » |
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It varies everyday, but I get at least .5 grams per lb of bodyweight on average. Most of the time I am much higher than that just by default of what I eat.
Do you ever eat above 1 gram per lb of bodyweight? Don't you think eating .5 grams per lb some days is too little?
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« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2010, 03:48:03 PM » |
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Do you ever eat above 1 gram per lb of bodyweight? Don't you think eating .5 grams per lb some days is too little?
Yep, sometimes I will eat over that amount. I do not believe .5 grams per lb is low for me by any means as I only lift weights 4-5 days a week and do not exert myself in any way other than that. Also, studies have shown that seasoned bodybuilders/Weightlifters may need LESS protein as several studies have shown that strength training, consistent with the anabolic stimulus for protein synthesis it provides, actually increases the efficiency of use of protein, which reduces dietary protein requirements.
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« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2010, 04:00:46 PM » |
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Yep, sometimes I will eat over that amount.
I do not believe .5 grams per lb is low for me by any means as I only lift weights 4-5 days a week and do not exert myself in any way other than that.
Also, studies have shown that seasoned bodybuilders/Weightlifters may need LESS protein as several studies have shown that strength training, consistent with the anabolic stimulus for protein synthesis it provides, actually increases the efficiency of use of protein, which reduces dietary protein requirements.
That's very interesting information from those studies, I never made gains while eating less than 1 gram per lb though. I tried it in the past and it didn't work. I noticed you don't make sure you eat an "x" amount of protein per day and that your intake varies a lot, why is this? Probably the days you eat .5 grams per lb or so are balanced out with the days you eat more than 1 gram per lb right? Its very interesting to see you are able to stay ripped while eating anything you want. I never tried it, but I can see it being possible as overall calorie intake is what determines fat loss/gain or maintaining. Do you think its possible to remain ripped and gain muscle at the same time? I think its not since caloric intake will vary too much. Thanks.
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« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2010, 07:00:49 PM » |
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By the way TA, I tried your Adonis tomato and tuna salad tonight. Very, very good.
I followed your recipe, with a few key notable changes to suit my tastes.
To the dressing, I added half a teaspoon each of cumin, chili powder, and cayenne powder to give the dressing some heat. I find the heat masked the can tuna smell nicely.
I was really hungry, so I decided to ditch the cous cous this time around, because it looked really good and I wanted to eat it right away.
I also added a teaspoon of dijon mustard to the dressing, to act as an emulsifier.
Finally, I added a cucumber to the mix.
Overall, a very tasty meal and one I won't hesitate to repeat.
Very Good my friend! I eat it all the time without Cous Cous or Pasta. I also play around with it a bit, infusing different herbs with the oil. It is a completely enjoyable way to eat Tuna and so quick to throw together.
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« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2010, 06:22:56 AM » |
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Would either of you wavelength/Adonis be willing to post a pic from now and progress pics every few months in order for people to see what effect your diet is really having on your body? If either of you are interested PM me and I can start a thread on The Positive Board to keep the trolling bullshit out and maintain a serious thread. I kind of already did that last year and it took quite some time to maintain that thread. Don't have the time right now but it would be awesome if TA did it.
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« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2010, 10:09:57 AM » |
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Kashi Toasted Berry Crunch Cereal 1 cup of Milk Italian Boule Bread Calories-470Tyler Florence Ultimate Baked Beans 1 Serving Vanilla and Chocolate Brownie Ice Cream Calories-430Adonis Tuna and Tomato Basil Calories-670Kashi Toasted Berry Crunch Cereal 1 cup of Milk Calories-340Cinnamon and Sugar Graham Crackers Calories-130Mcdonalds Cheeseburger Half of a Large Fries (Jezebelle ate the other half  ) Calories- 560
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« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2010, 10:16:17 AM » |
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Kashi Toasted Berry Crunch Cereal 1 cup of Milk Italian Boule Bread
Calories-470
Tyler Florence Ultimate Baked Beans 1 Serving Vanilla and Chocolate Brownie Ice Cream
Calories-430
those are banging baked beans
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« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2010, 12:44:05 PM » |
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I love how you eat Ice Cream so early in the day, that is of course if your diet log is in chronological order. I know that anytime is a good time for ice cream, but having a bowl of it at 6 am is a little too early.
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« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2010, 08:10:36 AM » |
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2 servings Kashi Toasted Berry Crunch Cereal 2 cups of Whole Milk
Calories-680
1 serving Chocolate vanilla Brownie Ice Cream
Calories-150
1 Slice Smoked Provolone Cheese Calories-70
2 Burger King Rodeo Cheeseburgers Calories-760
3 Fudge Covered Mint Oreos (1 serving) Calories-170
Chocolate Muscle Milk
Calories-240
3 Fudge Covered Mint Oreos (1 serving) Calories-170
Tomato Crostinis with Six Tuscan cheeses
Calories-340
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« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2010, 09:55:29 AM » |
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1 serving Kashi High Protein Cereal 1 cup whole milk 3 Fudge Covered Mint Oreos (1 serving)
Calories-460 Olive Oil, herb and Filone Tomato Costinis with Six Tuscan Cheeses 3 Fudge Covered Mint Oreos (1 serving)
Calories-727
1 serving Kashi High Protein Cereal 1 cup whole milk 3 Fudge Covered Mint Oreos (1 serving) Calories-460
1 Greek Yogurt Strawberry Calories-130
Tomato and Six Tuscan Cheese Pizza Calories-440 1 serving Chocolate vanilla Brownie Ice Cream
Calories-150
Cinnamon and Sugar Graham Crackers with Nutella Calories-230
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« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2010, 12:16:59 PM » |
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1 serving Kashi High Protein Cereal 1 cup whole milk 1 Greek Yogurt Vanilla Calories-400
Basil Olive Oil infused, herb and Filone Tomato Pizza with Six Tuscan Cheeses Calories-560
1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos 2 Burger King Rodeo Cheeseburgers Calories-900
Tomato and Six Tuscan Cheese Pizza 1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos Calories-580
Strawberries with Nutella Calories-168
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« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2010, 10:48:30 AM » |
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1 serving Kashi High Protein Cereal 1 Cup Whole Milk 1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos
Calories-430
1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos Calories-140
Greek Yogurt Strawberry Calories-130
Musclemilk Vanilla Creme Calories-220
Tomato and Six Tuscan Cheese Pizza 1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos
Calories-610
1 Cup Whole Milk Kashi High Protein Cereal
Calories-290
2 Burger King Rodeo Cheeseburgers Calories-760
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« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2010, 11:29:08 AM » |
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1 Cup Whole Milk 1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos
Calories-290
1 Cup Whole Milk 1 Serving Kashi High Protein Cereal
Calories-290
Tomato and Six Tuscan Cheese Pizza 2 serving (4 cookies) Mint Oreos Calories-750 Tuscan Tomato, Olive Oil Pasta with 6 Cheeses 1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos
Calories-648
1 Cup Whole Milk 1 Serving Kashi High Protein Cereal
Calories-290
Strawberries and Peanut Butter Calories-167
1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos Calories-140
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« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2010, 06:41:00 PM » |
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2 Servings Cranberry Crunch Kashi 2 Cups Milk
Calories-700
Mint Oreos 1 Serving Calories-140
Greek Yogurt Blueberry Calories-130
Chocolate Oreos Calories-150
2 Pieces Large Papa John`s Hawaiian Volcano Pizza 1 Piece Large The Works Papa John`s Pizza
Calories-1030
1 Piece Large Papa John`s Hawaiian Volcano Pizza Calories-350
1 Oreo Chocolate Calories-75
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« Reply #49 on: May 18, 2010, 06:38:37 PM » |
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2 Pieces Large Papa John`s Hawaiian Volcano Pizza 1 Piece Large The Works Papa John`s Pizza
Calories-1030
1 Piece Large Papa John`s Hawaiian Volcano Pizza Calories-350
Mint Oreos 1 Serving Calories-140
Chocolate Oreos Calories-150
1 Serving Cranberry Crunch Kashi 1 Cups Milk Calories- 350
1 Banana Calories-100
Chocolate Oreos Calories-150
1 Serving Cranberry Crunch Kashi 1 Cups Milk Calories- 350
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