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Re: Dexter Jackson training with Charles Glass (VIDEOS INSIDE)
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2010, 09:49:41 AM »
ok fellas......dex is pumping out 7 good reps with the 150s......that is heavy weight......how about the 4 plates on the incline smith......from a dead stop??? how about 5 plates on the hammer machine????


you guys talk a big game......give me a break.....you are pressing 120s for 5 and you are talking smack about dex using the 150s......just more of the negativity here at getbig.com.......piss off haters......you guys have the talk down......but the actual walk......you don't have that down.......pick up the 150s and try them on rows......presses......a nything......and tell me they aren't heavy dumbbells.......STFU!!

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« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2010, 09:53:45 AM »
I would say No to that and claim that the BEST bodybuilders would probably be the best no matter how they trained.
if coleman never went over 100lbs on any exercise, he would have never looked the way he did.

if coleman had spent 15 hours in the gym everyday, he would have never looked the way he did.

if coleman had only worked out 2 days a week, he would have never looked the way he did.

if coleman only did 1 set per workout, he owuld have never looked the way he did.



obviously, training does matter, and the best would not be the best regardles of how they trained. had dorian trained like dillet, he would have never won an olympia. had dillet trained like dorian...  :) get what i mean?

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« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2010, 10:04:32 AM »
How exactly do you not use your delts and triceps while doing benchpress ? It's impossible to just use your chest... it's simple biomechanics. Your triceps and delts will always be involved in a pressing movement like that , no matter how much you focus on using your chest. With a good muscle-mind connection you might be able to put more emphasis on the muscle you want to work esp. when using lighter weights and higher reps but there's no way that you're not using your delts and triceps in a pressing movement like that.

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Re: Dexter Jackson training with Charles Glass (VIDEOS INSIDE)
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2010, 10:06:31 AM »
ok fellas......dex is pumping out 7 good reps with the 150s......that is heavy weight......how about the 4 plates on the incline smith......from a dead stop??? how about 5 plates on the hammer machine????


you guys talk a big game......give me a break.....you are pressing 120s for 5 and you are talking smack about dex using the 150s......just more of the negativity here at getbig.com.......piss off haters......you guys have the talk down......but the actual walk......you don't have that down.......pick up the 150s and try them on rows......presses......a nything......and tell me they aren't heavy dumbbells.......STFU!!
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Re: Dexter Jackson training with Charles Glass (VIDEOS INSIDE)
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2010, 10:09:25 AM »
How exactly do you not use your delts and triceps while doing benchpress ? It's impossible to just use your chest... it's simple biomechanics. Your triceps and delts will always be involved in a pressing movement like that , no matter how much you focus on using your chest. With a good muscle-mind connection you might be able to put more emphasis on the muscle you want to work esp. when using lighter weights and higher reps but there's no way that you're not using your delts and triceps in a pressing movement like that.
thank you captain obvious!!!!  ;D  


watch someone lift weights. you can see the muscle(s) contracting. you can tell what muscles are doign the work, and what muscles are pretty relaxed. now watch dexter do the db press. see any delt or tricep contraction going on? the muscles are moving, because the chest is making them move along with the arm and dumbell... but i dont see any visible stress or contraction in those two muscles. and check out his chest, the whole damn thing, from the outside to the inside, is contracting and balling up as the weight moves.

that is isolation, not whether or not the body has extrordinary superduper 100% isolation

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Re: Dexter Jackson training with Charles Glass (VIDEOS INSIDE)
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2010, 10:18:40 AM »
Meso is a strong motherfuKKer, for real

I'm gonna try those inclines on the smith when I start pressing heavy again, seems to hit the muscle right at the sticking point
they're called clusters.. They are great!

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Re: Dexter Jackson training with Charles Glass (VIDEOS INSIDE)
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2010, 10:39:35 AM »
Ronnie pressing the 200 lbs. dumbbells!  :o


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« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2010, 12:07:20 PM »
That's hatd training that's my goal one day to press 200 Dumbells for a few reps
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« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2010, 12:11:16 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2010, 12:14:18 PM »
LOL at guys being impressed with smith machine work

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« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2010, 12:19:40 PM »
Agree smith machines especially near ones are easy....  I've don't 4 plates a side incline on a nicely maintained. smith machine couldn't dream of doing that on free weights incline though not even for a rep.
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« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2010, 12:41:12 PM »
That's hatd training that's my goal one day to press 200 Dumbells for a few reps

I love how on the last rep Ronnie halway into it says, 'Light weight!' and throws that shit like it's nothing!  :o

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« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2010, 12:48:17 PM »
 ;D ;D
ronnie = Greatest Of All Time
Lot of new scilla builders talk about squeeze no heave weigh complete bullshit that why Coleman puked on everyone for 8 yrs because he didn't take his genetics for granted and train light... He put everything into it sweat and blood on that gym floor . I remember Reading an article where he squat 600lb till he had a nose bleed... And there was another article where he was doing that rows and the t bar handle broke because he was rowing too much weight ... Amazing it broke he didn't let go it broke
that someone who I would shoot to emulate training wise not these lazy bbers who  talk about light weight and squeeze. I don't care what anybody says strength is important too
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« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2010, 12:50:25 PM »
LOL at needing 3-4 spotters/fanbois for dumbell presses, etc. He does come across as a prima donna... I doubt Dex would ever remove plates from a machine himself. :D


branch doesnt always seem to train that way, but if you asked him he would tell you that is. if you read his columns in md he has talked about the importance of good form many times.  ronnie always trained higher reps, and tried to keep good form. his powerlifting in his videos is a far cry from what he always did.


certainly alot of huge dudes got that way by powerlifting and not paying atention to form. but the bext bodybuilders all know that weight is second to form. 

I have never seen Branch use anything resembling strict form in any of his videos. One of the MD video intros even said Branch was now training very strict using peak contraction and it was the worst form I'd seen from him. Of course, almost every pro says weight doesn't matter and they always train strict, or maybe it's their ghost writers who say that :D

I would have to disagree about the best bodybuilders knowing weight is second to form. The majority use far from text-book form and far from full range of motion and often way too much weight forcing them to involve lots of secondary muscles. Some champions have very nice form, such as Dorian, but the majority don't.

Regardless of form, muscle responds to tension. The more tension you can generate the more you'll grow. The Ronnie bounced front squats were horrible form-wise and tendon killers but the tension generated from that is insane. :o :D

Form is also something that no one ever seems to change. It becomes ingrained very early on. Just like posing style. :D

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Re: Dexter Jackson training with Charles Glass (VIDEOS INSIDE)
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2010, 12:53:03 PM »

that someone who I would shoot to emulate training wise not these lazy bbers who  talk about light weight and squeeze. I don't care what anybody says strength is important too

Absolutely. However, the negative, and it's a huge negative, is the injury risk. But like I said, the more tension you can place on a muscle the more it will respond - if it doesn't explode first. :D

Weight matters.

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Re: Dexter Jackson training with Charles Glass (VIDEOS INSIDE)
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2010, 12:53:33 PM »
Dex only weighs like 220 lbs

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« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2010, 01:44:01 PM »
Absolutely. However, the negative, and it's a huge negative, is the injury risk. But like I said, the more tension you can place on a muscle the more it will respond - if it doesn't explode first. :D

Weight matters.

I agree but I don't think it does the way Coleman trained he gettin 12 reps not
1 or 2 reps when u start going for singles that when ur at a great risk in regard to injuries.
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Re: Dexter Jackson training with Charles Glass (VIDEOS INSIDE)
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2010, 01:52:04 PM »
Ronnie pressing the 200 lbs. dumbbells!  :o




Ronnie is the fucking man...dude lifts big-boy weights.

I love how he almost kills the cameraman with a 200lb dumbbell and then says.."watch yourself"  :D 

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« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2010, 02:25:17 PM »
Strongest bber of all time IMO .... Compare that to dexters bitchass male bonding trainging 4 people around him to press 150 for 6 reps....  Coleman on his own 200lb dumbell 12 reps ... Can a hang?
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Re: Dexter Jackson training with Charles Glass (VIDEOS INSIDE)
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Re: Dexter Jackson training with Charles Glass (VIDEOS INSIDE)
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2010, 02:49:38 PM »


FT job n bbing champ dont mix.  Yip yip

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« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2010, 03:00:20 PM »
Strongest bber of all time IMO .... Compare that to dexters bitchass male bonding trainging 4 people around him to press 150 for 6 reps....  Coleman on his own 200lb dumbell 12 reps ... Can a hang?
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Yeah. A little silly to have all those 'spotters' around Dexter for the amount of weight he's lifting.

Ronnie was just RIDICULOUS with the amount of weights he threw around... AND didn't have 4 people to spot him.  ;D

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« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2010, 03:23:18 PM »
Ronnie weighed up to 110 lbs more than Dex

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« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2010, 03:31:41 PM »
Ronnie weighed up to 110 lbs more than Dex

True. One would have to take that into consideration when talking strength, but even still Ronnie didn't have 3-4 people 'spotting' him.

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« Reply #49 on: July 20, 2010, 04:34:25 PM »
LOL at needing 3-4 spotters/fanbois for dumbell presses, etc. He does come across as a prima donna... I doubt Dex would ever remove plates from a machine himself. :D


I have never seen Branch use anything resembling strict form in any of his videos. One of the MD video intros even said Branch was now training very strict using peak contraction and it was the worst form I'd seen from him. Of course, almost every pro says weight doesn't matter and they always train strict, or maybe it's their ghost writers who say that :D

I would have to disagree about the best bodybuilders knowing weight is second to form. The majority use far from text-book form and far from full range of motion and often way too much weight forcing them to involve lots of secondary muscles. Some champions have very nice form, such as Dorian, but the majority don't.

Regardless of form, muscle responds to tension. The more tension you can generate the more you'll grow. The Ronnie bounced front squats were horrible form-wise and tendon killers but the tension generated from that is insane. :o :D

Form is also something that no one ever seems to change. It becomes ingrained very early on. Just like posing style. :D
of course weight matters.

form stays the same? well.. about that

if a guy starts working out with 100lbs(or anyweight) and  "sloppy form" (using lots of secondary muscles)... then after a short while his body will adapt and he will need to use more weight, because he will be able to do too many reps for growth. 

if a guy starts working out with 75lbs and good form (limited use of secondary muscles)... after a while he will adapt and need to use more weight.

in both cases, weight matters. 


the reason why i think good form is superior to sloppy form.... well, like you pointed out.. injury prevention for one... but also because i feel like  full range or motion is important to maximize the growth in every muscle cell from insertion to origin, and also the squeezing at peak contraction should help make the muscle harder and more defined.