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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #250 on: September 04, 2010, 12:33:49 PM »
Hahaa,  Andreisthegay has a crush on Hawking.

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #251 on: September 04, 2010, 12:34:21 PM »
its very simple, if there was a god he would never, never, allowed women to shit.

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #252 on: September 04, 2010, 12:34:28 PM »
Hawking once stole third on Mike Piazza.

Good one ;D

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #253 on: September 04, 2010, 12:35:33 PM »
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Oh brother-- lots of metaphysical experts and arm chair physicists in this thread who saw the Matrix Trilogy one too many times.

quoted for truth ;)

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #254 on: September 04, 2010, 12:36:23 PM »
so because something can be explained mechanically, it no longer has a need for God?

dont you understand that if anything is to exist it has to be able to be explained mechanically.. that is the rules, the physics of our universe.

of course everything can be broken down and epxlained. that in no way discredits God. you are the ignorant one.



sf- why would god care about drug addiction? i am hurting no one. your showing your ignorance once again by falling into the trap of thinking that the only possible god is the god touted by modern day catholics and christians.  God does not create arbitrary rules, what we should and shoudl not do, based on no moral logic. the things which god does not want us to do are the things that hurt others.

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so because something can be explained mechanically, it no longer has a need for God?

dont you understand that if anything is to exist it has to be able to be explained mechanically.. that is the rules, the physics of our universe.

of course everything can be broken down and epxlained. that in no way discredits God. you are the ignorant one.

God was needed to explain the unexplained , now we know why things happen and they aren't supernatural , no in that context , NO we don't need ' God '

and again you're missing the point , God was the explanation for these things until we learned the natural explanation.

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #255 on: September 04, 2010, 12:38:58 PM »
i believe in science

i was told that in undergrad bio n chem.  now...i'm working towards an advance science degree.  i still choose a god over corrupt men.

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #256 on: September 04, 2010, 12:39:38 PM »
Not true....I call on something that doesn't exist every day...."Oh let the black communities fix themselves and not rely on tax dollars"


I say that about the white community as well..since the vast majority of people who receive gov't aid are white

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #257 on: September 04, 2010, 12:40:00 PM »
theres so much suffering going on in this world, if theres a god, he must be a very cruel entity.

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #258 on: September 04, 2010, 12:40:46 PM »
if you dont believe in a GOD...then the only thing left to believe in is MAN.  i'll pass on that.

Your fellow man has done much , much more for you than " God " has

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #259 on: September 04, 2010, 12:42:22 PM »
They will say something like, "God has always been here. He is Eternal. He does not need a creator" Epic way to avoid a debate. Once someone says that, it is impossible to debate them. Bur arguing from that standpoint is a logical fallacy. I do not like that argument.

agreed

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #260 on: September 04, 2010, 12:43:45 PM »
nope. apparently, you dont understand the essence of God.

 unless you understand his eternal presence and acknowledge the necessity for an ultimate creator, you dont have the ability to speak about him with any accuracy, because you lack the fundamental knowledge required to grasp his existence.


god is infinite, eternal, omnipotent. that is the definition.  if God was not any one of those things, then he would not be God. so, God must be eternal, and also must exist, because it is in his very essence to be so.




WRONG

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #261 on: September 04, 2010, 12:45:37 PM »
Oh shit, I almost crapped myself. Hawking brutally destroyed by Getbig.   :)


I guess thats really important to you?

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #262 on: September 04, 2010, 12:48:43 PM »
Your fellow man has done much , much more for you than " God " has

you think so.  it takes something special to go from a pond of protein - a multi-cellular complex organism.  and then there is the universe.  yep...it's all man.  well...i do give me credit for those 1000s of 50-100 mega-ton weapons waiting to launch when man decides to follow another man like hitler again.  i pledge my loyalty to men like fidel castro and raul.  ::)  

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #263 on: September 04, 2010, 12:49:23 PM »



i dont agree with his recent theory about god not creating the universe.............how the fuck would he know who created the universe......he doesnt have the information available to him to make a statement like that..........no humans do................we arent even sure who created the pyramids

like i said previously.............. humans havent been able to get past our own moon............but arrogant assholes like stephen hawking are spouting off at the mouth trying to expedite global atheism.....its an agenda of the intellectual elite



but that being said, he is still a very smart man..........to claim otherwise is silly

you saved your post by stating at the end that anyone who debates the smartness of Stephen Hawkins is silly....He has much more evidence to prove there is no God than you have to prove there is....show us your proof?

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #264 on: September 04, 2010, 12:51:22 PM »
you saved your post by stating at the end that anyone who debates the smartness of Stephen Hawkins is silly....He has much more evidence to prove there is no God than you have to prove there is....show us your proof?

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Any god that could be "proved" would not, by deffinition, be God. Hope that helps.

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #265 on: September 04, 2010, 12:51:30 PM »
believing in god is like believing you can attain a pro card naturally

This quote just about sums it up..brilliant

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #266 on: September 04, 2010, 12:52:34 PM »


natural pro bitch

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #267 on: September 04, 2010, 12:52:46 PM »
There is no proof of a god. The idea of a god and afterlife is just something made up by humans to take comfort in the idea of their own death. What is a "god" anyways? Something all knowing and creator of everything? Silly... Solid evidence shows that things come to by evolving.



my thoughts exactly..nice post

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #268 on: September 04, 2010, 12:53:21 PM »
Both are stories in a book written by men , you can't escape that.

YEP

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #269 on: September 04, 2010, 12:54:10 PM »

You missed the point , at first God was a story passed from generation to generation , he was an explanation for the natural word , earthquakes , lightening , thunder , death , disease , etc , these people were ignorant as to the reasons for these natural occurrences






YES!

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #270 on: September 04, 2010, 12:58:22 PM »
God was needed to explain the unexplained , now we know why things happen and they aren't supernatural , no in that context , NO we don't need ' God '

and again you're missing the point , God was the explanation for these things until we learned the natural explanation.

truth

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #271 on: September 04, 2010, 01:01:24 PM »

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Any god that could be "proved" would not, by deffinition, be God. Hope that helps.


you just owned yourself with your own quote.....why, in the entire history of the world, has NO GOD ever been proven to exist?...is it because they don't?

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #272 on: September 04, 2010, 01:02:46 PM »
gods never show up
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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #273 on: September 04, 2010, 01:03:38 PM »
gods never show up


neither does the tooth fairy or santa claus..yet people STILL wait for them

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Re: Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe
« Reply #274 on: September 04, 2010, 01:07:54 PM »