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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #225 on: August 13, 2015, 12:35:27 PM »
and I've told you before that women have "recourse" as you put it because they have the extra burden that men don't have

they are the ones that are pregnant

extra burden for women = extra choice for them (i.e. the choice as to whether you both become parents or not)

it's totally fair which is probably why it's the law


oh God.  seriously??



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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #226 on: August 13, 2015, 12:35:44 PM »
why are you asking me the same question which you asked me on page 5 and which I answered?

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« Reply #227 on: August 13, 2015, 12:38:34 PM »
and I've told you before that women have "recourse" as you put it because they have the extra burden that men don't have

they are the ones that are pregnant

extra burden for women = extra choice for them (i.e. the choice as to whether you both become parents or not)

it's totally fair which is probably why it's the law


and men should be able to relinquish all rights to the child and not be forced to pay for it.  if she wants to go ahead and have it knowing that the father won't be there to help she can.

no one likes this idea though.  way too fair. 

FYI.  in my scenario NO ONE is being forced to do anything.  both parties have a choice.  which is why you won't like it.  it doesn't reek of man hating liberalism.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #228 on: August 13, 2015, 12:38:38 PM »
oh God.  seriously??

absolutely

what part of my statement don't you understand

the day that the woman can have the fetus removed an implanted in the man then the world will be "fair" for you.

I wish that would happen soon so guys like you would stop all the whining about how life is unfair

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #229 on: August 13, 2015, 12:40:11 PM »
and men should be able to relinquish all rights to the child and not be forced to pay for it.  if she wants to go ahead and have it knowing that the father won't be there to help she can.

no one likes this idea though.  way too fair.  

FYI.  in my scenario NO ONE is being forced to do anything.  both parties have a choice.  which is why you won't like it.  it doesn't reek of man hating liberalism.

nope, doesn't work that way

like I've said 2 or 3 times now

the woman gets the choice on whether you both become parents

period

you have the choice to not have sex if you don't like it or I guess you can "choose" to be gay instead

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #230 on: August 13, 2015, 12:43:07 PM »
nope, doesn't work that way

like I've said 2 or 3 times now

the woman gets the choice on whether you both become parents

period

you have the choice to not have sex if you don't like it or I guess you can "choose" to be gay instead

I know it doesn't work that way.  it should. 

she had the choice to have sex or not too.  funny you don't hold her accountable. 

but again not an anti man stance.  entirely too fair for both parties.  which is why you don't agree with it.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #231 on: August 13, 2015, 12:46:59 PM »
nope, doesn't work that way

like I've said 2 or 3 times now

the woman gets the choice on whether you both become parents

period

you have the choice to not have sex if you don't like it or I guess you can "choose" to be gay instead

I just don't understand how you are so dense you don't realize how much this statement, in light of the discussion we're having, just reeks of hypocrisy. 


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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #232 on: August 13, 2015, 12:49:14 PM »
I just don't understand how you are so dense you don't realize how much this statement, in light of the discussion we're having, just reeks of hypocrisy.  



I don't understand how you're so dense that you don't understand that it's the woman that becomes pregnant and NOT YOU

most 1rst graders understand that

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #233 on: August 13, 2015, 12:52:44 PM »
of course not.


So you are an expert on the personal lives of people you have never met now?

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #234 on: August 13, 2015, 12:56:21 PM »
you're sitting here repeating what the law is.  I know what the law says about babies and abortions. 

what i'm saying is that the law is complete and utter bullshit.

women have recourse for an irresponsible sexual decision.  men do not.  that's quite simply not fair.

if you are so clouded by your conditioning that you, as a man, don't see how unfair the law currently is, I can't help you. 

you're being lied to by feminazi's and believing every word because you are being trained to toe the line. 

you're a lost cause.


Actually they do.  Vasectomy. 

A man doesn't have to get permission for it either.   His body, his choice.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #235 on: August 13, 2015, 12:56:29 PM »
I don't understand how you're so dense that you don't understand that it's the woman that become pregnant and NOT YOU

most 1rst graders understand that

pseudo males take this position.  boys like you.  abortion is not a female problem.  its a cultural one.  we're churning out men by the thousands who think like you.  as long as men like you keep being born, we will have millions of abortions.  

the type of guys who when told by their girlfriend that they got them pregnant, they respond, "well what are you going to do?"  little.....fucking.....b oys.

when my wife got pregnant, WE were having a baby.  not her.  I was in it for life.  period.  and that's what she fully expected from me BEFORE she decided to let me impregnate her.  because she is a WOMAN.   not a little girl.  yes she had to carry OUR baby for 9 months.  but that baby was OURS.

that's how real men think.  

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #236 on: August 13, 2015, 12:59:10 PM »

Actually they do.  Vasectomy.  

A man doesn't have to get permission for it either.   His body, his choice.

no you got that wrong.  do I have to explain why?  have you ever had sex?  

you do know that if you get a girl pregnant a vasectomy won't help right?


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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #237 on: August 13, 2015, 01:00:01 PM »
pseudo males take this position.  boys like you.  abortion is not a female problem.  its a cultural one.  we're churning out men by the thousands who think like you.  as long as men like you keep being born, we will have millions of abortions.  

the type of guys who when told by their girlfriend that they got them pregnant, they respond, "well what are you going to do?"  little.....fucking.....b oys.

when my wife got pregnant, WE were having a baby.  not her.  I was in it for life.  period.  and that's what she fully expected from me BEFORE she decided to let me impregnate her.  because she is a WOMAN.   not a little girl.  yes she had to carry OUR baby for 9 months.  but that baby was OURS.

that's how real men think.  

so you're back insults because you can't deal with reality

must suck to be so insecure that you feel you need to control someone else body and have to piss and moan about how life is unfair

I guess that's how real men like you act when they can't deal with reality

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #238 on: August 13, 2015, 01:02:14 PM »
so you're back insults because you can't deal with reality

must suck to be so insecure that you feel you need to control someone else body and have to piss and moan about how life is unfair

I guess that's how real men like you act when they can't deal with reality

never forced a girl to do anything to her body.  never got a girl pregnant and hoped she wanted to kill it either.  I guess that's what your version of real men do.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #239 on: August 13, 2015, 01:03:25 PM »
never forced a girl to do anything to her body.  never got a girl pregnant and hoped she wanted to kill it either.  I guess that's what your version of real men do.

no shit Sherlock

of course you didn't

you don't get the option

that's what you've been bitching about this entire time


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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #240 on: August 13, 2015, 01:21:40 PM »
no you got that wrong.  do I have to explain why?  have you ever had sex?  

you do know that if you get a girl pregnant a vasectomy won't help right?



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That whoooshing sound?  The point of my post going over your head.

You obviously have a hard time understanding or accepting that another person doesn't need your permission to do what they want with THEIR OWN body.


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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #241 on: August 13, 2015, 01:24:16 PM »
never forced a girl to do anything to her body.  never got a girl pregnant and hoped she wanted to kill it either.  I guess that's what your version of real men do.


No.  It's the version of an individual being free to make their own choice about their own body without a prissy whiner like you having any say so.

Thank god "we're churning out men by the thousands who think like you."   Certainly will eliminate the Stone Age mouth breathers in a few generations.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #242 on: August 13, 2015, 01:50:35 PM »
Planned Parenthood workers, PACs donated $25M to Dems since 2000
By Seth Paxton
Published August 13, 2015
FoxNews.com

The financial ties between Planned Parenthood and Democrats run deep, with the taxpayer-funded women's health care and abortion provider's employees and political arms donating at least $25 million to party lawmakers over the past 15 years, according to a FoxNews.com analysis.

The money, which flowed through an extensive web of Planned Parenthood employees, political action committees and soft-money donors accounts for 99 percent of all political donations linked to Planned Parenthood, leaving little doubt about the partisan preference of the organization.
Amid calls for ending the organization's roughly $500 million in annual  federal funding, Planned Parenthood may need its political muscle more than ever.

“These types of contributions -- any contributions -- to public officials are important and they do sway votes,” said Jeanne Zaino, a political science professor at Iona College in New Rochelle, N.Y.

“These types of contributions - any contributions - to public officials are important and they do sway votes.”

- Jeanne Zaino, professor of political science at Iona College
In addition to direct donations to the campaigns of Democratic lawmakers around the nation, Planned Parenthood employees and affiliates spent $12 million on lobbying efforts during the same span, according to documents examined by FoxNews.com.

As a tax-exempt nonprofit, Planned Parenthood is not allowed to donate directly to political causes. But, like hundreds of other nonprofits, it is permitted to establish a political action committee that is committed to its goals. Planned Parenthood's political arm, the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, works with scores of state, regional and local PACs and affiliates that seek to influence elections on every level. It is funded by private contributions and is not permitted to use the organization's funds even as it advocates for the organization and contributes to candidates sympathetic to its cause.

Planned Parenthood's taxpayer subsidies have come under intense questioning in the wake of a series of sting videos released by the Center for Medical Progress, a group of citizen journalists opposed to abortion. The graphic videos, some of which have featured undercover footage shot inside clinics and of Planned Parenthood officials allegedly discussing the illegal sale of fetal cadavers and body parts, have made Planned Parenthood a major issue in the 2016 presidential campaign.

A Senate measure to defund Planned Parenthood failed by a vote of 53-46 last week, falling seven votes short of the supermajority of 60 needed to avoid a filibuster. Voting against the measure were several lawmakers who received some of the $884,574 Planned Parenthood’s PACs and supporters contributed to candidates and parties last year, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. The largest recipient, Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass., received $22,290 and voted with other Planned Parenthood-backed senators including Jeanne Shaheen, of New Hampshire, Al Franken, of Minnesota, and Jeff Merkley, of Oregon, to block the move.

Democratic senators from so-called “red” states also have received sizable donations from Planned Parenthood PACs and supporters. Since 2006, Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., has received a little more than $26,000; Jon Tester, D-Mont., $19,000 and Heidi Heitkamp, D-S.D., has received $5,300.

Some current and former Planned Parenthood employees donated more than $100,000 to mostly Democrat-supported candidates and causes. Aimee Boone Cunningham, of Austin, Texas, donated a total of $233,000 to the Super PAC Planned Parenthood Votes, Democratic congressional candidates and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee between 2012 and 2014. According to the Center for Reproductive Rights, she was most recently the vice president of development of Planned Parenthood of Greater Texas. She also has been the deputy director of the Texas Democratic Trust and the deputy executive director/finance director of the Texas Democratic Party.

Alexandria Marcus of San Francisco worked for Planned Parenthood intermittently between 2005-2010 and donated $132,500 to the Democratic Campaign Committee, the DNC Services Corp. and Democratic candidates including Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and President Obama during that time. She has served as associate vice president of public affairs for Planned Parenthood Mar Monte, the largest affiliate in the country, and as director of Planned Parenthood Advocates Mar Monte and of two Planned Parenthood political action committees and political campaigns.

Since the 2000 elections, every Senate Democrat who has voted not to defund Planned Parenthood has received a contribution from Planned Parenthood PACs and supporters. Shaheen has received $38,449 since 2002. Senators Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., and Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, also have accepted more than $30,000. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton also benefited from Planned Parenthood advocates’ cash during her years in the Senate, raking in $18,385 between 2000 and 2006.

“Their donation priorities demonstrate that, obviously, Planned Parenthood knows who will support their agenda no matter what,” Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla., said. “I am hopeful that the senators who voted against redirecting Planned Parenthood taxpayer funding will listen to the millions of people around the nation that are mortified that their hard-earned money is being used to facilitate the trafficking of children’s body parts. Federal funding for Planned Parenthood shouldn’t be a partisan or lobbying issue.”

According to the Planned Parenthood Annual Report, the organization received $528.4 million in government health services grants and reimbursements in fiscal year 2014. According to law, none of its federal funds can be used for abortion services. The organization claims the federal funds are used to promote other women's health causes, including birth control, mammograms and sex education instruction in public schools.

The partisan nature of the abortion issue has a flip side. The Susan B. Anthony List, a private, anti-abortion organization, has donated $1,990,787 to Republicans since 2000 and only $38,468 to Democrats, a contribution history that shows a similar contrast, though on a much smaller scale.

Senators voting to continue funding Planned Parenthood may well have followed their consciences and the wishes of their constituents, but Zaino said the relationship between donations and votes on such a charged issue is undeniable.

“Anytime we are analyzing a vote we always have to follow the money trail and this case is no exception,” Zaino said. “There is no question that the vote on Monday was tied to the contributions these senators have received from the Planned Parenthood SuperPacs and related individual donors.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/13/planned-parenthood-workers-pacs-donated-25m-to-dems-since-2000/?intcmp=hpbt3

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #243 on: August 13, 2015, 01:51:14 PM »

No.  It's the version of an individual being free to make their own choice about their own body without a prissy whiner like you having any say so.

Thank god "we're churning out men by the thousands who think like you."   Certainly will eliminate the Stone Age mouth breathers in a few generations.

I agree that your definition of a real man is in stark contrast to mine.

your version wants to make the federal government buy rubbers for you because apparently its too hard or you can't make enough money.

my version takes control of their sexual activity and doesn't impregnate a woman unless they want a baby.  

and statistically most abortions are because of boys like you.  so of course you're pro choice.  you have to be.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #244 on: August 13, 2015, 02:09:10 PM »
I agree that your definition of a real man is in stark contrast to mine.

your version wants to make the federal government buy rubbers for you because apparently its too hard or you can't make enough money.

my version takes control of their sexual activity and doesn't impregnate a woman unless they want a baby.  

and statistically most abortions are because of boys like you.  so of course you're pro choice.  you have to be.

in your version real men cry like little bitches about how life is unfair

they also want to be exempt from taking care of their children once they are born and apparently think the rest of us should pay for their kids

that's your definition of a real man

and men should be able to relinquish all rights to the child and not be forced to pay for it.  if she wants to go ahead and have it knowing that the father won't be there to help she can.

no one likes this idea though.  way too fair.  

FYI.  in my scenario NO ONE is being forced to do anything.  both parties have a choice.  which is why you won't like it.  it doesn't reek of man hating liberalism.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #245 on: August 13, 2015, 02:26:35 PM »
Planned Parenthood workers, PACs donated $25M to Dems since 2000
By Seth Paxton
Published August 13, 2015
FoxNews.com

The financial ties between Planned Parenthood and Democrats run deep, with the taxpayer-funded women's health care and abortion provider's employees and political arms donating at least $25 million to party lawmakers over the past 15 years, according to a FoxNews.com analysis.

The money, which flowed through an extensive web of Planned Parenthood employees, political action committees and soft-money donors accounts for 99 percent of all political donations linked to Planned Parenthood, leaving little doubt about the partisan preference of the organization.
Amid calls for ending the organization's roughly $500 million in annual  federal funding, Planned Parenthood may need its political muscle more than ever.

“These types of contributions -- any contributions -- to public officials are important and they do sway votes,” said Jeanne Zaino, a political science professor at Iona College in New Rochelle, N.Y.

“These types of contributions - any contributions - to public officials are important and they do sway votes.”

- Jeanne Zaino, professor of political science at Iona College
In addition to direct donations to the campaigns of Democratic lawmakers around the nation, Planned Parenthood employees and affiliates spent $12 million on lobbying efforts during the same span, according to documents examined by FoxNews.com.

As a tax-exempt nonprofit, Planned Parenthood is not allowed to donate directly to political causes. But, like hundreds of other nonprofits, it is permitted to establish a political action committee that is committed to its goals. Planned Parenthood's political arm, the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, works with scores of state, regional and local PACs and affiliates that seek to influence elections on every level. It is funded by private contributions and is not permitted to use the organization's funds even as it advocates for the organization and contributes to candidates sympathetic to its cause.

Planned Parenthood's taxpayer subsidies have come under intense questioning in the wake of a series of sting videos released by the Center for Medical Progress, a group of citizen journalists opposed to abortion. The graphic videos, some of which have featured undercover footage shot inside clinics and of Planned Parenthood officials allegedly discussing the illegal sale of fetal cadavers and body parts, have made Planned Parenthood a major issue in the 2016 presidential campaign.

A Senate measure to defund Planned Parenthood failed by a vote of 53-46 last week, falling seven votes short of the supermajority of 60 needed to avoid a filibuster. Voting against the measure were several lawmakers who received some of the $884,574 Planned Parenthood’s PACs and supporters contributed to candidates and parties last year, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. The largest recipient, Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass., received $22,290 and voted with other Planned Parenthood-backed senators including Jeanne Shaheen, of New Hampshire, Al Franken, of Minnesota, and Jeff Merkley, of Oregon, to block the move.

Democratic senators from so-called “red” states also have received sizable donations from Planned Parenthood PACs and supporters. Since 2006, Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., has received a little more than $26,000; Jon Tester, D-Mont., $19,000 and Heidi Heitkamp, D-S.D., has received $5,300.

Some current and former Planned Parenthood employees donated more than $100,000 to mostly Democrat-supported candidates and causes. Aimee Boone Cunningham, of Austin, Texas, donated a total of $233,000 to the Super PAC Planned Parenthood Votes, Democratic congressional candidates and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee between 2012 and 2014. According to the Center for Reproductive Rights, she was most recently the vice president of development of Planned Parenthood of Greater Texas. She also has been the deputy director of the Texas Democratic Trust and the deputy executive director/finance director of the Texas Democratic Party.

Alexandria Marcus of San Francisco worked for Planned Parenthood intermittently between 2005-2010 and donated $132,500 to the Democratic Campaign Committee, the DNC Services Corp. and Democratic candidates including Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and President Obama during that time. She has served as associate vice president of public affairs for Planned Parenthood Mar Monte, the largest affiliate in the country, and as director of Planned Parenthood Advocates Mar Monte and of two Planned Parenthood political action committees and political campaigns.

Since the 2000 elections, every Senate Democrat who has voted not to defund Planned Parenthood has received a contribution from Planned Parenthood PACs and supporters. Shaheen has received $38,449 since 2002. Senators Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., and Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, also have accepted more than $30,000. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton also benefited from Planned Parenthood advocates’ cash during her years in the Senate, raking in $18,385 between 2000 and 2006.

“Their donation priorities demonstrate that, obviously, Planned Parenthood knows who will support their agenda no matter what,” Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla., said. “I am hopeful that the senators who voted against redirecting Planned Parenthood taxpayer funding will listen to the millions of people around the nation that are mortified that their hard-earned money is being used to facilitate the trafficking of children’s body parts. Federal funding for Planned Parenthood shouldn’t be a partisan or lobbying issue.”

According to the Planned Parenthood Annual Report, the organization received $528.4 million in government health services grants and reimbursements in fiscal year 2014. According to law, none of its federal funds can be used for abortion services. The organization claims the federal funds are used to promote other women's health causes, including birth control, mammograms and sex education instruction in public schools.

The partisan nature of the abortion issue has a flip side. The Susan B. Anthony List, a private, anti-abortion organization, has donated $1,990,787 to Republicans since 2000 and only $38,468 to Democrats, a contribution history that shows a similar contrast, though on a much smaller scale.

Senators voting to continue funding Planned Parenthood may well have followed their consciences and the wishes of their constituents, but Zaino said the relationship between donations and votes on such a charged issue is undeniable.

“Anytime we are analyzing a vote we always have to follow the money trail and this case is no exception,” Zaino said. “There is no question that the vote on Monday was tied to the contributions these senators have received from the Planned Parenthood SuperPacs and related individual donors.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/13/planned-parenthood-workers-pacs-donated-25m-to-dems-since-2000/?intcmp=hpbt3

wow 25 million in 15 years

that's pretty pathetic

Sheldon Adelson spent 93 million on the 2012  election


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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #246 on: August 13, 2015, 02:49:18 PM »
in your version real men cry like little bitches about how life is unfair

they also want to be exempt from taking care of their children once they are born and apparently think the rest of us should pay for their kids

that's your definition of a real man


says the guy who needs abortions to the guy who supports his kids and probably pays for your health care.

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #247 on: August 13, 2015, 02:54:22 PM »
says the guy who needs abortions to the guy who supports his kids and probably pays for your health care.

I'm a guy so I can't have an abortion so how exactly do you think I need one

If you're offering to pay my health insurance then I'll send you my address because right now it's being debited from my checking account each month

Seems like you break down into insults and insecurities whenever you can't defend your position

Is that something else that "real men" in your world do?

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #248 on: August 13, 2015, 03:00:12 PM »
I'm a guy so I can't have an abortion so how exactly do you think I need one

If you're offering to pay my health insurance then I'll send you my address because right now it's being debited from my checking account each month

Seems like you break down into insults and insecurities whenever you can't defend your position

Is that something else that "real men" in your world do?

says the guy who said this to Coach like 2 days ago.

LOL @ the life long drug addict and 3 times divorced tire flipping dwarf trying to lecture anyone on morals

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Re: Could Whistleblower Claims Strip Planned Parenthood of Government Funding?
« Reply #249 on: August 13, 2015, 03:08:20 PM »
says the guy who said this to Coach like 2 days ago.

LOL @ the life long drug addict and 3 times divorced tire flipping dwarf trying to lecture anyone on morals

I'm not a drug addict (much less life long) and I've never been divorced

If you think I'm lecturing you or anyone on morals you're truly retarted

I've said I support a womans right to choose....period

you really perceive that to be a lecture.

would you like me to repost your lectures from this thread ?