Who is better, Heath or Levrone?

[Wiggs]

After yesterday, Phil's physique has surpassed anything Levrone has ever brought...better than 2000 Mr. O and 94 O.


Discuss

[KevinP85]

After yesterday, Phil's physique has surpassed anything Levrone has ever brought...better than 2000 Mr. O and 94 O.


Discuss

Levrone still has bigger shoulders especially traps compared to Phil.

[Wiggs]

Levrone still has bigger shoulders especially traps compared to Phil.

Overall who is better?   Very similar physiques.  Heath kills him in back double bi, absolutely destroys him

[Fatpanda]

i agree, heath has really made some improvements.

if he can keep his gut in check i believe he could dominate this sport for a long long time.

i say this because he trains smart i.e. avoids injuries and trying to feed his ego.

he is well spoken, he sounds intelligent and motivated about the sport.

i do worry that he will keep pushing the boat drug wise and the sides will destroy him, like it did with dorian, coleman, ruhl, james, cutler, etc all of these guys have hit amazing peaks then it eventually caught up to them......

i hope heath is different, as i believe he could spark a new age of bodybuilding.

[Wiggs]

Levrone owns him.

How so?  Convince me.

Arms: Heath
Legs: Heath
Backdouble Bi: Heath
Rear Lat spread: Levrone
Ab and thigh Heath
Most Muscular: Heath
Conditioning: Heath
Symettry: Heath
Side Chest: Levrone
Side Tri: Heath

[Fatpanda]

How so?  Convince me.

Arms: Heath
Legs: Heath
Backdouble Bi: Heath
Rear Lat spread: Levrone
Ab and thigh Heath
Most Muscular: Heath
Conditioning: Heath
Symettry: Heath
Side Chest: Levrone
Side Tri: Heath

i'd give the lat spread to heath too, levrone had a pathetic back imo

[#1 Klaus fan]

Both suck.

[Wiggs]

Id go as far to say that Heath is better than Wheeler and Ray also in his young career.

[Parker]

How so?  Convince me.

Arms: Heath
Legs: Levrone
Backdouble Bi: Heath
Rear Lat spread: Levrone
Ab and thigh Levrone
Most Muscular: Levrone
Conditioning: Tie
Symettry: Heath
Side Chest: Levrone
Chest: Levrone
Traps: Levrone
Side Tri: Tie

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[Neptune100]

How so?  Convince me.

Arms: Heath
Legs: Heath
Backdouble Bi: Heath
Rear Lat spread: Levrone
Ab and thigh Heath
Most Muscular: Heath
Conditioning: Heath
Symettry: Heath
Side Chest: Levrone
Side Tri: Heath

Structure:Levrone
Conditioning:Heath
Arms:even
Chest:Levrone
Abs:Levrone
Back:Heath
Thighs Heath
Hamstrings:Heath
Shoulders:Even
Back DB:Heath
Back Lat:Levrone
Side chest:Levrone
Side tricep:Levrone
Abs and thighs:Heath
Most M:even
Front DB: Levrone
Front Lat:Even


Would be epic matchup.  

[Wiggs]

Fixed

You're smokin'


Levrone's legs are a liability. Phil destroys Levrone in most muscular.   Tie on Triceps

[KevinP85]

Id go as far to say that Heath is better than Wheeler and Ray also in his young career.

Hard to say, different eras competiting now. It's like saying Rockel is better than Lebrada

[tendonitis]

If you say Heath is better than Levrone then by default the fridge is too.
Ain't no way I'm buying that.

[MB]

I'd say Levrone because he's wider than Heath.  I think Heath is better than Wheeler though.   

[Wiggs]

If you say Heath is better than Levrone then by default the fridge is too.
Ain't no way I'm buying that.

No defaults because the general public will never feel Jay is then Sergio Oliva or Flex Wheeler.
Heath is Better than Levrone thats it....Between Jay and Levrone I don't care for either of their physiques.

[Neptune100]

If you say Heath is better than Levrone then by default the fridge is too.
Ain't no way I'm buying that.

Fridge is not better than any of the greats, including Heath, mentioned.  I dont care how many O's he wins.

[Parker]

You're smokin'


Levrone's legs are a liability. Phil destroys Levrone in most muscular.   Tie on Triceps

Levrone used to measure up with Quadzilla...Levrone's legs only became a liability after his back injury and they were down in 99-00's, the 1997-1998 Levrone was a beast that Phil couldn't handle...

And remember Flex came second to Ronnie in 1998, Phil (of the distant future) wouldn't be able to hang...even with Flex a tad off, his superior lines would highlight Phil's flaws, and remember it was said that if Flex came in his 1998 Arnold shape, there is a big possibility that he would have won...

[Neptune100]

Levrone used to measure up with Quadzilla...Levrone's legs only became a liability after his back injury and they were down in 99-00's, the 1997-1998 Levrone was a beast that Phil couldn't handle...

And remember Flex came second to Ronnie in 1998, Phil (of the distant future) wouldn't be able to hang...even with Flex a tad off, his superior lines would highlight Phil's flaws, and remember it was said that if Flex came in his 1998 Arnold shape, there is a big possibility that he would have won...

Youre right, the biggest challenge to the version Phil heath presented yesterday would be Levrone from 97-98. 

I just see Flex getting killed from the back by Heath.  Flex had one of the best back double bi's, but his hams and glutes were smooth in 98/99.  Heaths back double bi is just as good and his hams glutes are shredded.  And Heath is a tad better in the lat spread.  I still think Heath would win cause he is bigger and shredded everywhere.

[Wiggs]

Youre right, the biggest challenge to the version Phil heath presented yesterday would be Levrone from 97-98. 

I just see Flex getting killed from the back by Heath.  Flex had one of the best back double bi's, but his hams and glutes were smooth in 98/99.  Heaths back double bi is just as good and his hams glutes are shredded.  And Heath is a tad better in the lat spread.  I still think Heath would win cause he is bigger and shredded everywhere.

Bingo on Heath and Levrone in 97-98 when he was 260 would fall to Heaths conditioning.

[James Blunt]

Levrone was a beast, i'm not sure i'd put him behind Phil.

[blackpele]

Wiggs go check the 1999 British Grand Prix, that's all I have to say.

[Wiggs]

Wiggs go check the 1999 British Grand Prix, that's all I have to say.

All Lighting....Look at everyone in that show...Dex looked his best and that was 11 years ago...Phil would look incredible under that.

[tendonitis]

No defaults because the general public will never feel Jay is then Sergio Oliva or Flex Wheeler.
Heath is Better than Levrone thats it....Between Jay and Levrone I don't care for either of their physiques.

I really think you're underrating Levrone's physique.  A very good argument could be made he's one of the 10 best bodybuilders ever.

[Parker]

Youre right, the biggest challenge to the version Phil heath presented yesterday would be Levrone from 97-98. 

I just see Flex getting killed from the back by Heath.  Flex had one of the best back double bi's, but his hams and glutes were smooth in 98/99.  Heaths back double bi is just as good and his hams glutes are shredded.  And Heath is a tad better in the lat spread.  I still think Heath would win cause he is bigger and shredded everywhere.

when on it was Flex...we all remember this back shot...

[G_Thang]

i think it's possible to play these match ups.  ok...last night was phil's best.  what does kevin's best look like with today's drug regimes and kev knowing that phil is there instead of shawn and flex given phil isnt mr o just yet?  kev still has better clavicle structure than phil.  

compared to yrs gone by...last night wasnt a great o lineup.  come on guys.  politics to the side....some had branch ahead of phil...not just jay.