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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #100 on: November 25, 2010, 03:56:56 PM »
Quote from: flinstones1 on November 25, 2010, 03:39:06 PM
just google it kevin levrone diabeic and you will see what I mean. It could be a rumor who knows. But it is pretty well known that Kevin responded very well to insulin. I think the fact that Kevin never went overboard with the calories is one of the reasons for the small waiste.

but I don't think that really says much (just looking at kevin). we have to look at the overall picture. maybe kevin is an exception and got away with insulin abuse and still looked good..maybe not and his use was different compared to todays bodybuilders (not bulking up too much and not going overboard with the calories...as you mention). I don't know...but the thing is that today's bodybuilders look worse compared to the guys in the 90s and there has to be some explanation for that. I believe a big part of that is the insulin use...more insulin and they start using at an earlier stage.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #101 on: November 25, 2010, 04:25:36 PM »
Quote from: lastrep on November 25, 2010, 03:44:50 PM
Serge clearly said he was in the 230's 2 weeks out form the 1975 Mr. Olympia.. when Weider freaked out and banned him from it because he would have won.

Show me where he said that?

Serge was never 230 in shape in his life.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #102 on: November 25, 2010, 04:40:39 PM »
Quote from: flexingtonsteele on November 25, 2010, 04:25:36 PM
Show me where he said that?

Serge was never 230 in shape in his life.

Ofcourse he was.. reason he was "banned" from the Olympia, in his own words. Then he dropped to 200-205 and they let him compete.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #103 on: November 25, 2010, 04:42:07 PM »
Quote from: flexingtonsteele on November 25, 2010, 04:25:36 PM
Show me where he said that?

Serge was never 230 in shape in his life.

I think he said he was 212-215lbs (not 230) and competition ready...before the weiders told him he couldn't compete.

when they let him compete he ended up at 200lbs because he got depressed and lost a lot of weight.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #104 on: November 25, 2010, 04:43:25 PM »
Quote from: lastrep on November 25, 2010, 04:40:39 PM
Ofcourse he was.. reason he was "banned" from the Olympia, in his own words. Then he dropped to 200-205 and they let him compete.

He said he lost 15lbs and he was 215lbs and in the best shape of his life.

He was about 200lbs onstage that day.

Im damn near positive of this.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #105 on: November 25, 2010, 04:46:44 PM »
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #106 on: November 25, 2010, 04:48:50 PM »
Imagine looking like him and walking down the street in the summer  ;D
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #107 on: November 25, 2010, 04:50:59 PM »
nubret said that he usually used like 70-100kg in the bench press but he was capable of doing 200x10 in the bench press and had done a single with 220-225kg.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #108 on: November 25, 2010, 05:02:00 PM »
Serge probably had the best ( most desirable ) physique of all times.

Its a shame he's in the situation that he is in now.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #109 on: November 25, 2010, 05:12:05 PM »
Quote from: flexingtonsteele on November 25, 2010, 05:02:00 PM
Serge probably had the best ( most desirable ) physique of all times.

Its a shame he's in the situation that he is in now.

yeah, inspiring physique. makes you wanna train hard! not like the bloated monster pros of this generation.

what happened to him? I heard he was poisoned and all kinds of weird stuff and that his family tried to kill him or atleast not give him the best possible medical care etc etc
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #110 on: November 25, 2010, 06:30:33 PM »
Quote from: lastrep on November 25, 2010, 04:40:39 PM
Ofcourse he was.. reason he was "banned" from the Olympia, in his own words. Then he dropped to 200-205 and they let him compete.


He said he was 212 and went down to 200 the day of the show.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #111 on: November 25, 2010, 06:35:44 PM »
Quote from: Disgusted on November 25, 2010, 06:30:33 PM

He said he was 212 and went down to 200 the day of the show.

This!

Happy Thanxgiving Jim.

Thanks for the holiday text message u fukin cock lover.

Tell H i said hi too :)
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #112 on: November 25, 2010, 06:41:31 PM »
Quote from: Boost on November 23, 2010, 07:17:01 PM
Nubret had the most desirable physique in history IMO

Labrada, Zane and Ray etc, they're great but kinda short.

Serge had it all. tall, not missing anything. Perfect proportions.

Bob Paris is close in terms of height with a complete physique


Let me add to that the fact that Nubret also has a very large penis.

"1"
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #113 on: November 25, 2010, 06:57:59 PM »
Quote from: OneMoreRep on November 25, 2010, 06:41:31 PM
Let me add to that the fact that Nubret also has a very large penis.

"1"

Why, pray tell, would that be of any interest to a real man?  Real man.  Real.  Man.  Why?

Hint:  It is not.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #114 on: November 25, 2010, 07:03:31 PM »
Quote from: flexingtonsteele on November 25, 2010, 06:35:44 PM
This!

Happy Thanxgiving Jim.

Thanks for the holiday text message u fukin cock lover.

Tell H i said hi too :)

Hope you enjoyed your Guinness. Oh and Happy Thanksgiving
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #115 on: November 25, 2010, 07:06:03 PM »
Quote from: Disgusted on November 25, 2010, 07:03:31 PM
Hope you enjoyed your Guinness. Oh and Happy Thanksgiving

Woke up this morning and my stomach was FUCKED UP! I only had one guiness and 2 newcastle and it fucked me up.

Thats why i stopped drinking beer.

Now my stomach has been bloated all day, ive only had hp and protein shakes all day. :(

Gonna have the old ladies tgiving dinner in a few tho. hopefully ill be able to enjoy it.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #116 on: November 26, 2010, 04:37:16 AM »
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #117 on: November 26, 2010, 04:48:26 AM »
Aceto said that Nubret trained abs for hours every day...he had spectacular abdominals.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #118 on: November 26, 2010, 06:28:32 AM »
Quote from: gh15 on November 23, 2010, 08:46:45 PM
4-6 units of legit gh is not so low,,low is 1-2 iu,,you can get very very large and lean on 5 units of gh taken for only 2 months with aas ,,im talking here you go from 210 13% to 240 8% in 2 months,,thst thing alibaba the guro wont tell you because he is like all of those scambags LIAR,,

gh15 approved

I always thought that your posts were full of shit seen as you accuse pretty much everyone of being on something.  You're the McCarthy of AAS.  However, what you said before in this thread about being over 30 and losing natural GH production rings true with me.  My muscles always felt big and full and i could carry a pump for days, or the feeling of it.  I thought my shoulder surgery was responsible for me losing the roundness of my delts and the 'pop' that my physique had.  Being 33 i feel endocrinally different from my 20s.  I can really feel that something is missing. 

Still, i've been natural all my life and i'm in pretty good shape.  Since i don't make a living off my looks i can't justify paying for AAS.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #119 on: November 26, 2010, 01:44:47 PM »
Quote from: Meso_z on November 26, 2010, 04:48:26 AM
Aceto said that Nubret trained abs for hours every day...he had spectacular abdominals.

One hour daily. He stated that many times on ironage. Just FYI
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #120 on: November 26, 2010, 04:29:18 PM »
Quote from: Disgusted on November 26, 2010, 01:44:47 PM
One hour daily. He stated that many times on ironage. Just FYI

I wonder if that contributed to him having hip replacement surgery.

he was a great bodybuilder, but doing that kind of volume of ab training is kinda overkill  ;D
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #121 on: November 26, 2010, 06:28:50 PM »
Quote from: Disgusted on November 26, 2010, 01:44:47 PM
One hour daily. He stated that many times on ironage. Just FYI
He also says he is natural  ;D

Dont mind that alot of BB's from his era have said he pretty much introduced Para and early thyroid meds into the BB world.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #122 on: November 26, 2010, 06:48:09 PM »
Quote from: WillGrant on November 26, 2010, 06:28:50 PM
He also says he is natural  ;D

Dont mind that alot of BB's from his era have said he pretty much introduced Para and early thyroid meds into the BB world.

Why would anyone admit to being on steroids?

They are illegal ya know.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #123 on: November 26, 2010, 06:55:20 PM »
Quote from: flexingtonsteele on November 26, 2010, 06:48:09 PM
Why would anyone admit to being on steroids?

They are illegal ya know.
Not in his era :D just pointing out he is full of shit , alot of younger guys will read what he says and walk away very disapointed.

Read what Serge says with a very open mind is all im saying.
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Re: 80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)
« Reply #124 on: November 26, 2010, 08:14:45 PM »
Quote from: WillGrant on November 26, 2010, 06:55:20 PM
Not in his era :D just pointing out he is full of shit , alot of younger guys will read what he says and walk away very disapointed.

Read what Serge says with a very open mind is all im saying.

exactly.

those old timers tend to exaggerate their claims.
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