Steve Reeve's weight guidlines Natty. Gh15, accurate?

[disco_stu]

it has nothing to do with being handome my friend,,reeves actually didnt have such impressive physiqe,,he had symetric physiqe,,the use of testosterona made it sa little thicker,,but impressive ...well depends what you see as impressive ,,he had an enhanced swimmer physiqe a physiqe kind of like if that old model marky mark decided to train hard...both he and reeves took test but reeves also trained seriously,,

you fellas need to understand that when you have stresses of life,,wars,,when you live in era like the 40s which was much more depmanding than oru era ,,,you just cant maintain the condition and the level of size reeves had with out syntetic help,,if you knew alittle not a lot but a little about how human body works,,if you knew a little not a lot about how the cult of bodybuilding works,,if you knew how we bodybuilder stop at nothing to get advancment,,we will not do anything if it hurt our bodybuilding,,we wont go out ,,we wont go to long trip,,we wont go and do service for no one if it take energy,,we are very very lazy ,,if you understood it ...you would know he was on test,,he was just too active and living in an era he coudnt even be 190 at his condition naturally,,

fella was experiemneting with test thus labeled a liar ,,small liar,,not lee priest level liar,,but never the less the beggining of the mess you see now days,,since you know now days bodybuilding is close to a joke ,,no one respect us,,you got steve reeves to blame for what we can call  in a movie title ..."thie beggining;"

trust me when you gain money by lieing,,mark my words,,when you make money on lies,,you always pay the aultimate price,,he payed with it ,,his life,,he died prematurly at 70 something lonely miserable man with out any children ,,any thing to show for his life,,pretty much god revenge,,

now narcissit is crying right about now when reading it  so before he get heart attack on me,,my friend it is not that serious,,you say your peace i say mine,,mine is right yours is wrong ,,the end:)

gh15 approved

every once in a while you give some information that is based on fact..which is good, and is obviously from your exposure to black market, dealers, and users...so its interesting.

but the other 99% of the time you talk shit and have a biased opinion that everyone uses loads of gear and nothing is possible without it- because you've never hung with clean athletes so dont have a clue about what is possible.

in addition you dont have a clue what synthetics potentiate and enhance others because your understanding of cause and effect is so fundamentally basic, and the myriads of interactions so numerous that you arrive at incorrect conclusions based on anecdotal reports from drug abusers.

so really you have to learn when to shut the fuck up, honestly.

[NarcissisticDeity]

little correction ,,he did have something to show for his life,,he was ok actor,,and won few bodybuilding contest,,and put his name in the books,,thats quite an achivment,,so my bad he did have something to show,,but the punishment came from within ,,only he and his god can understand it ,,anyways no body gave a fuck then and it would actually be much better if we as bodybuilder would stuck in 80s because no one gave a flying fuck about what we took then much like the 50s and 40s

gh15 approved

lmao ' correction ' which means as usual you don't know what you're talking about. He was the highest paid actor of his time , he saved and invested his money wisely , retired on his terms a wealthy man and raised prize winning Morgan horses on his ranch.

He was Arnold's archetype , he won a few bodybuilding contests? he won all the greatest contests of his day and retired from the sport at just 24 because he won every major title and he died prematurely at 70? lmfao now you're reduced to speculating he could have lived longer , hey wait maybe it was his heavy drug use? all that test , those test tablets and insulin you claimed he took 

the best part is you don't even believe 99.99 percent of the shit you type and neither does anyone else with a brain , I don't know who is more dumb you or the 00.01% that does believe you 

You think by typing this nonsense show how you're getting a rise out of me or anyone who claims Reeves was natural but ultimately the jokes on you because in the end you're the one who is bullshitting yourself.

[gh15]

lmao ' correction ' which means as usual you don't know what you're talking about. He was the highest paid actor of his time , he saved and invested his money wisely , retired on his terms a wealthy man and raised prize winning Morgan horses on his ranch.

He was Arnold's archetype , he won a few bodybuilding contests? he won all the greatest contests of his day and retired from the sport at just 24 because he won every major title and he died prematurely at 70? lmfao now you're reduced to speculating he could have lived longer , hey wait maybe it was his heavy drug use? all that test , those test tablets and insulin you claimed he took 

the best part is you don't even believe 99.99 percent of the shit you type and neither does anyone else with a brain , I don't know who is more dumb you or the 00.01% that does believe you 

You think by typing this nonsense show how you're getting a rise out of me or anyone who claims Reeves was natural but ultimately the jokes on you because in the end you're the one who is bullshitting yourself.

there is no question that he experiemented with testosterona,,that every serious bodybuilder know,,not only my followers which is practically 90% of each board on internet now days,,

you actually remind me thoe type of fellas that have this so called friend in the military,,,they say he is their friend because he went to hgih school with them for coupl eyears,,then fella go to military live in some state liek no where to be found wisconsin  and you are in yoru old no where to be  found original town lol...then that fella get back once in a while from military and is 200lb 8% 5'10 and tell you oh steroids are for bodybuilder i dont like steroids its gay,,im all natural i work hard and become very strong because i eat a lot,, that same so called friend of yours ...party his as,,get all the girls,,dont give a flying fuck about the way you eat all seriously aiming at bodybuilding he just eat whatever he want,,yet he show you 200lb 8% and you stuck with your 181 10% on protien powder and creatine lol,,you get the idea here friend? you are goooooleeeeble,,everyone on this site can tell it not only gh15,,you would still fight and claim to others that your friend is all hard work and genetics,,oh he is superb elite,,oh he is just one of a kind,,you will take that military friend of yours which ofcourse is a lieing piece of buddy lol and tell anyone that that guy will wipe the floor with the biggest juicer in your gym because he have marvelous genetics and just very good at lifting weights lol,,you remind me that type of guy that would have a 'friend' of this kind,,

you are just the type of guy that will go all out protecting hormonized lifters because they say they are naturals lol atleast some have the decency to say clean when they lie ,,but no some mother fuckers say NATURALS LOL

i understand steve reeves was from old generation and a hero to you k,,but he was also a scambag liar piece of shit ,,friendless no real friends what so ever,,why no friends? because types like that can not have friends,,they are all evoloved around themselves and that includes hrmones and any advancment in bodybuilding,,its a lot of psycology my firiend,,revve went into lonely death ,,left no family behind HIS WAS SHOOTING BLANKKKKKKS noswimmers lol he was a lot less than the hero you describe ,,he was a liar ,,small liar but still a liar,,he died youg 73 is young especially in americana which all the spoild life americanos have,,he died not natural death he died of CANCER!,,he was not a healthy man ,,it is a lie ,,he was a sick lonely man ,,he left the world like he came into it lonely soul,,he was narcsistic in his nature ,,nothing woudl stop him from geting advantage especially when others were experiemnting too,,

you got to understand you are talking here about a sub normal individual,,someone that belong in a time were no one care about hormones and he used it to its best advantage,,zigler came much later MUCH LATER,,zigler was just like the stamp on an already known phenomenon to bodybuilder called H O R M O N E S ,,again not in the doses and selections of today ,,in their rough form ,,but never the less still hormones,,

gh15 approved

[Fallsview]

there is no question that he experiemented with testosterona,,that every serious bodybuilder know,,not only my followers which is practically 90% of each board on internet now days,,

you actually remind me thoe type of fellas that have this so called friend in the military,,,they say he is their friend because he went to hgih school with them for coupl eyears,,then fella go to military live in some state liek no where to be found wisconsin  and you are in yoru old no where to be  found original town lol...then that fella get back once in a while from military and is 200lb 8% 5'10 and tell you oh steroids are for bodybuilder i dont like steroids its gay,,im all natural i work hard and become very strong because i eat a lot,, that same so called friend of yours ...party his as,,get all the girls,,dont give a flying fuck about the way you eat all seriously aiming at bodybuilding he just eat whatever he want,,yet he show you 200lb 8% and you stuck with your 181 10% on protien powder and creatine lol,,you get the idea here friend? you are goooooleeeeble,,everyone on this site can tell it not only gh15,,you would still fight and claim to others that your friend is all hard work and genetics,,oh he is superb elite,,oh he is just one of a kind,,you will take that military friend of yours which ofcourse is a lieing piece of buddy lol and tell anyone that that guy will wipe the floor with the biggest juicer in your gym because he have marvelous genetics and just very good at lifting weights lol,,you remind me that type of guy that would have a 'friend' of this kind,,

you are just the type of guy that will go all out protecting hormonized lifters because they say they are naturals lol atleast some have the decency to say clean when they lie ,,but no some mother fuckers say NATURALS LOL

i understand steve reeves was from old generation and a hero to you k,,but he was also a scambag liar piece of shit ,,friendless no real friends what so ever,,why no friends? because types like that can not have friends,,they are all evoloved around themselves and that includes hrmones and any advancment in bodybuilding,,its a lot of psycology my firiend,,revve went into lonely death ,,left no family behind HIS WAS SHOOTING BLANKKKKKKS noswimmers lol he was a lot less than the hero you describe ,,he was a liar ,,small liar but still a liar,,he died youg 73 is young especially in americana which all the spoild life americanos have,,he died not natural death he died of CANCER!,,he was not a healthy man ,,it is a lie ,,he was a sick lonely man ,,he left the world like he came into it lonely soul,,he was narcsistic in his nature ,,nothing woudl stop him from geting advantage especially when others were experiemnting too,,

you got to understand you are talking here about a sub normal individual,,someone that belong in a time were no one care about hormones and he used it to its best advantage,,zigler came much later MUCH LATER,,zigler was just like the stamp on an already known phenomenon to bodybuilder called H O R M O N E S ,,again not in the doses and selections of today ,,in their rough form ,,but never the less still hormones,,

gh15 approved

Aren't you contradicting yourself here GH15?  You call all these bodybuilders that lie, scumbags but you are doing the same thing.  Here you tell the truth because you hide behind a screen name but you would never talk this candidly face to face or with doing an interview for a magazine.  So what say you?

[gh15]

Aren't you contradicting yourself here GH15?  You call all these bodybuilders that lie, scumbags but you are doing the same thing.  Here you tell the truth because you hide behind a screen name but you would never talk this candidly face to face or with doing an interview for a magazine.  So what say you?

yep i was a scambag too,,never to the level of priest though,,i really dispize priest ,,i want him out of bodybuilding for good and im gonna do anything in my power that this fella dont see  the gear he needs,,and if he does he will look like shit because it wil be bunk,,lee priest sucesfuly made me mad and its not good,,

also,, the reason im annonymous is because i got tired of the lies of the priests well there is only one liar at the level of priest,,but the other liars so the only way i could ay the truth was with out revealing identity because if i did id stay with no bodybuilding,,theys be kick me out ,,even better probably try to kill me,,


gh15 approved

[shiftedShapes]

there is no question that he experiemented with testosterona,,that every serious bodybuilder know,,not only my followers which is practically 90% of each board on internet now days,,

you actually remind me thoe type of fellas that have this so called friend in the military,,,they say he is their friend because he went to hgih school with them for coupl eyears,,then fella go to military live in some state liek no where to be found wisconsin  and you are in yoru old no where to be  found original town lol...then that fella get back once in a while from military and is 200lb 8% 5'10 and tell you oh steroids are for bodybuilder i dont like steroids its gay,,im all natural i work hard and become very strong because i eat a lot,, that same so called friend of yours ...party his as,,get all the girls,,dont give a flying fuck about the way you eat all seriously aiming at bodybuilding he just eat whatever he want,,yet he show you 200lb 8% and you stuck with your 181 10% on protien powder and creatine lol,,you get the idea here friend? you are goooooleeeeble,,everyone on this site can tell it not only gh15,,you would still fight and claim to others that your friend is all hard work and genetics,,oh he is superb elite,,oh he is just one of a kind,,you will take that military friend of yours which ofcourse is a lieing piece of buddy lol and tell anyone that that guy will wipe the floor with the biggest juicer in your gym because he have marvelous genetics and just very good at lifting weights lol,,you remind me that type of guy that would have a 'friend' of this kind,,

you are just the type of guy that will go all out protecting hormonized lifters because they say they are naturals lol atleast some have the decency to say clean when they lie ,,but no some mother fuckers say NATURALS LOL

i understand steve reeves was from old generation and a hero to you k,,but he was also a scambag liar piece of shit ,,friendless no real friends what so ever,,why no friends? because types like that can not have friends,,they are all evoloved around themselves and that includes hrmones and any advancment in bodybuilding,,its a lot of psycology my firiend,,revve went into lonely death ,,left no family behind HIS WAS SHOOTING BLANKKKKKKS noswimmers lol he was a lot less than the hero you describe ,,he was a liar ,,small liar but still a liar,,he died youg 73 is young especially in americana which all the spoild life americanos have,,he died not natural death he died of CANCER!,,he was not a healthy man ,,it is a lie ,,he was a sick lonely man ,,he left the world like he came into it lonely soul,,he was narcsistic in his nature ,,nothing woudl stop him from geting advantage especially when others were experiemnting too,,

you got to understand you are talking here about a sub normal individual,,someone that belong in a time were no one care about hormones and he used it to its best advantage,,zigler came much later MUCH LATER,,zigler was just like the stamp on an already known phenomenon to bodybuilder called H O R M O N E S ,,again not in the doses and selections of today ,,in their rough form ,,but never the less still hormones,,

gh15 approved

great post

[JP_RC]

Aren't you contradicting yourself here GH15?  You call all these bodybuilders that lie, scumbags but you are doing the same thing.  Here you tell the truth because you hide behind a screen name but you would never talk this candidly face to face or with doing an interview for a magazine.  So what say you?

gh15 already posted that he is a pathological liar.....you just can't expect to think everything he (or them) types is serious.

[biff]

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/history/topic/46705-1.html

even sergio oliva believed reeves used em, take it for what its worth.

there's no way to prove this argument one way or the other, but there was a time when 99% of american sports fans thought there was no way baseball players used steroids. oh maybe a few guys, 'assholes like conseco'. they didnt want to believe. there was no proof of it. it wasnt needed to or even helpful in that sport, etc. 

[JP_RC]

lee and i hate eachother with passion,,he is a liar the worst in history of bodybuilkding one of the worst,,and mishko...well mishko talk for himself with his action of arrested every monday and friday he go with the flow btu he very well know im right,, who the fuck is nodic? gimik? do you think i hav etime to get gimicks my friend ,,if i had a dime for how many times every one immitate me proclaimingto be me trying to get in touch with me ,,trying to ask for my advice ,,and trying to say gh15 send me or said so,, id be even richer than what i am now,,

the reality of things is the any professional face to face if really know you will tell you gh15 is the real deal ,,and reason im anonimous is because my life would be at risk otherwise,,there is no friend in bodybuilding you need ot know it,,absolitly no friend,,there are a lot of fellons though...

gh15 approved

Striking similarities:
 

this is a list of the things you have to have inorder to become a good bodybuilder in 2010,,

1. money,,you have to have some form of continuous financial support because you are in need to remain on hormones consistantly ,,there is no off times,, period

2. H G H ,,human growth hormone is in today bodybuilding a must,,you WILL NEVER SEE the number 220+ 6% 5'9with out gh,,

3. THE USE OF GH HAS TO BE CONSISTANT ENOUGH AS IN INCASE YOU GET OFF AAS YOU NEED TO HAVE GH IN SYSTEM TO MUSCLE FIBER CONTINUE TO CREATE AND WHEN GO BACK ON AAS IT EXPLODE

4. LEARN THIS: TESTOSTERONE,,EQIPONA,,TRENBOLONA,,MASTERONA,,VERY IMPORTANT MUST HAVE STEROIDS

5. DIURETICS ARE A MUST!,,BUT MORE OF A MUST IS TO KNWO HOW TO USE THEM! AND WHAT KIND OF DURETIC YOUR BODY WILL WORK BETTER WITH,,THE REASON YOU SEE BODYBUILDER COME IN GYM LIFTG HIS SHIRT AND SHOW HIS ABS SHREDDED WITH THE TUNNELS AS IN SKIN SUCKED IN WHILE MAINTAINING 230LB AND YET SITTING AT 7% IS DIURETIC,,NO NOT AI OR AE ,,REASON IS DIURETICS,,THE REASON THEY ARE 7% IS BECAUSE THE FAT IS LAYING INSIDE THE MUSCLE,,,THE WATER IS VERY LOW DUE TO DIURETIC THAT IS BEING EXPRIEMENTED WITH ALL ALONG BOGH COMPETITION AND OFFSESON WHICH IS BASICALLY ONE BGI CYCLE AL YEAR LONG


6. OIL,,YEP SEO,,TODAY BODYBUILDER USE SEO,,SOME PULL IT SOME DONT,,BUT REASON SO MANY HAVE 20 INCH ARM AT 5'8 NOW DAYS IS SEO YES HGH HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE SIZE ,,BUT THE SEO IS THERE TOO,,YOU NEED TO KNWO HOW TO APPLY IT AND HOW TO WORK IT IN ,,IT TAKES A GOOD BODYBUILDER TO DO IT RIGHT,,GH15  DOES NOT BELIEVE IN SEO JUST SO ITS UNDERSTOOD

7. INSULIN ,,YES IT IS USED,,I WILL NTO SAY DOSES BUT SOME GO VERY VERY HIGH ,,THIS IS ALSO WHAT RUINED BODYBUILDIGN AND I WISH IT WASSNT A MUST FOR HIGH COMPETETIVE LEVEL BUT UNTIL JUDGES WISE UP IT IS ,,IT WILL ONE DAY BE CANCELLED AND GO BACK TO GH AND AAS BUT UNTILL THEN INSULIN A MUST FOR HIGH COMPETETIVE LEVEL

8 FOOD,,NUTRITION ,,WHEN YOU HAVE GH IN BLOOD ESPECIALLY 5 UNITS AND OVER,,YOUI BAICALLY CAN EAT ALL DAY LONG NONE STOP AND YOU NEED TO ! YOU DONT EAT YOU DONT GROW TO YOUR FULL POTENTIAL ON HGH,,INFACT IF YOU DONT EAT A LOT YOU WILL BURN FAT TOO FAST,,YES THERE IS SUCH A THING AS BURNING FAT TOO FAST  EVEN FOR GH BECAUSE IT TAKES LITTLE TIME TILL YOU START NOTICE THE NEW FIBERS AND IN THAT TIME BEFORE HAND YOU NEED TO EAT AND EAT A LOT

9 YOU NEED GENETIC RESPONSE THAT IS PHENOMINAL ,,YOU WILL KNOW IT WITHIN 3 MONTHS ON GH AND AAS IF YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES

10 YOU NEED LEGIT DRUGS ,,AND THAT MEANS GOOD SOURCE,, GURU ,, SPONSOR ETC WHICH BRING ME TO POINT ONE,,THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN BODYBUILDIGN IS YOUR SOURCE! WITH OUT YOUR SOURCE YOU ARE NOTHING ,,AND YOU WILL REMAIN NOTHING,,GOOD SOURCE IS THE MAIN KEY IN GETTING TO THE TOP

gh15 approved

from md:

Quote Originally Posted by nordic  View Post
its funny how all the members here worship the drug hgh. lmao thats basically what you guys do, i mean its known that everyone uses it and the higher the dose the bigger the bodybuilder, but to sit on a board day in day out and lie to yourself, give compliments, saying good hard work...yada yada who are you guys lieing to?
both the women and men on this board, many of them adults lol, sit and lie, this is really a strange thing to witness

this is to the fans/regular members lol
when will you understand that BB is all gh? when will you understand that those are drug addicts that the only reason they grow is the use of gh and then anabolic steroids that blow up those new cells gh causes? when will you understand that the better your response is to the doses the more drug intake you can take...the better you become as a BB?
you have here guys who sit and really believe in this hard work BS lol, guys it is all the products you are on, the doses you are on, and your response to those doses,

but today, due to the homone called GH, you can be subaverage build and grow into PRO size, you guys got to get your head out of your ass, dont let time teach you a lesson, learn it before time teaches you that.

you have here drug addicts, me included i admit, that sit and worship eachother while lieing about the reason they are where they are. this is the reason BB never got anywhere and never will.

its almost like an unspoken understanding to lie about the use and abuse of those products, this is real bad, wise up guys, wise up.

just admit you created that nordic account and got scared away. I even remember you were posting the same thing of equipona, testosterona, masterona, trenbolona over there too and got called out on it and you couldn't answer.

[gh15]

Striking similarities:
 
from md:

just admit you created that nordic account and got scared away. I even remember you were posting the same thing of equipona, testosterona, masterona, trenbolona over there too and got called out on it and you couldn't answer.

do you really think i would not answer? do yuio know me like that? i answer anything in time,,i always answer when its important argument,,my pride is important to me and you know that,,i dont know who the fella is but its NOT GH15,,he write like me which is more of a psycotic phenomenon ,,you fella became crazy over this gh15 character ,,im sitting here and quite in shock i have seen many who write very close btu this is the closest,,

id never go on that site because it is full of lies ,,it is built around the idea of lies inorder to make yourself fell better,,very bad site,,so even if they pay me and they offered me contract to write colomn on there as gh15 ,,i refused,,they wanted gh15 more than they wanted wanted even centefuny but i knew it would be a fight waiting to happen and it was more for rating on internet due to the way the board operate bsed on lies

gh15 approved

[Palpatine Q]

there is no question that he experiemented with testosterona,,that every serious bodybuilder know,,not only my followers which is practically 90% of each board on internet now days,,

you actually remind me thoe type of fellas that have this so called friend in the military,,,they say he is their friend because he went to hgih school with them for coupl eyears,,then fella go to military live in some state liek no where to be found wisconsin  and you are in yoru old no where to be  found original town lol...then that fella get back once in a while from military and is 200lb 8% 5'10 and tell you oh steroids are for bodybuilder i dont like steroids its gay,,im all natural i work hard and become very strong because i eat a lot,, that same so called friend of yours ...party his as,,get all the girls,,dont give a flying fuck about the way you eat all seriously aiming at bodybuilding he just eat whatever he want,,yet he show you 200lb 8% and you stuck with your 181 10% on protien powder and creatine lol,,you get the idea here friend? you are goooooleeeeble,,everyone on this site can tell it not only gh15,,you would still fight and claim to others that your friend is all hard work and genetics,,oh he is superb elite,,oh he is just one of a kind,,you will take that military friend of yours which ofcourse is a lieing piece of buddy lol and tell anyone that that guy will wipe the floor with the biggest juicer in your gym because he have marvelous genetics and just very good at lifting weights lol,,you remind me that type of guy that would have a 'friend' of this kind,,

you are just the type of guy that will go all out protecting hormonized lifters because they say they are naturals lol atleast some have the decency to say clean when they lie ,,but no some mother fuckers say NATURALS LOL

i understand steve reeves was from old generation and a hero to you k,,but he was also a scambag liar piece of shit ,,friendless no real friends what so ever,,why no friends? because types like that can not have friends,,they are all evoloved around themselves and that includes hrmones and any advancment in bodybuilding,,its a lot of psycology my firiend,,revve went into lonely death ,,left no family behind HIS WAS SHOOTING BLANKKKKKKS noswimmers lol he was a lot less than the hero you describe ,,he was a liar ,,small liar but still a liar,,he died youg 73 is young especially in americana which all the spoild life americanos have,,he died not natural death he died of CANCER!,,he was not a healthy man ,,it is a lie ,,he was a sick lonely man ,,he left the world like he came into it lonely soul,,he was narcsistic in his nature ,,nothing woudl stop him from geting advantage especially when others were experiemnting too,,

you got to understand you are talking here about a sub normal individual,,someone that belong in a time were no one care about hormones and he used it to its best advantage,,zigler came much later MUCH LATER,,zigler was just like the stamp on an already known phenomenon to bodybuilder called H O R M O N E S ,,again not in the doses and selections of today ,,in their rough form ,,but never the less still hormones,,

gh15 approved

Great post.

These naive tools that swear Reeves was natural....BECAUSE HE SAID SO.....make me laugh

[The Wizard of Truth]

MD is a fucking embarassment
But my training partner bought Flex this month and we were pissing ourselves laughing at an article saying no pro's were on gear, hahahaha

[dj181]

Come on fellas! Just because one takes gear doesn't make him a bad guy and it doesn't mean that he is a lesser human being.

[flinstones1]

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from md:

just admit you created that nordic account and got scared away. I even remember you were posting the same thing of equipona, testosterona, masterona, trenbolona over there too and got called out on it and you couldn't answer.

lmao that is without a doubt g101 immitating gh15. g101 was banned on olm for copying gh15 posts claiming bbing is all drugs, which is true of course but olm is dellusional.  so I think nordic MAY be g101 or gh15 probably 101

[JP_RC]

lmao that is without a doubt g101 immitating gh15. g101 was banned on olm for copying gh15 posts claiming bbing is all drugs, which is true of course but olm is dellusional.  so I think nordic MAY be g101 or gh15 probably 101

Who is g101? Does he post here?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Great post.

These naive tools that swear Reeves was natural....BECAUSE HE SAID SO.....make me laugh

Only because he said so? not accurate lets also factor in that we know for a fact anabolics weren't created in the United States until years after he retired and there is NO record what so ever of any strength athlete in the United States using test before doctor John Ziegler , who abandoned the use of testosterone because it yielded no results what so ever , it's more than just his word you should try and pay attention to the thread but my speculation is you're not hear following just trolling which is nothing new for you.

[shiftedShapes]

Only because he said so? not accurate lets also factor in that we know for a fact anabolics weren't created in the United States until years after he retired and there is NO record what so ever of any strength athlete in the United States using test before doctor John Ziegler , who abandoned the use of testosterone because it yielded no results what so ever , it's more than just his word you should try and pay attention to the thread but my speculation is you're not hear following just trolling which is nothing new for you.

Did you miss this because you never responded to it, despite requesting it and it directly contradicts what you are saying above:

here is some more info about the book I mentioned:

http://nsrc.sfsu.edu/article/testosterone_dreams

Testosterone became a charismatic drug during the 1940s because it promised sexual stimulation and renewed energy. Physicians described the optimal effect of testosterone drugs as a feeling of “well-being,” a term that has been used many times since the 1940s to characterize their positive effect on mood. In the early 1940s testosterone was hailed in pharmaceutical advertising as a mood-altering drug whose primary purpose was the sexual restoration and reenergizing of aging males. It appeared at that time that an inexpensive supply, widespread demand, and favorable medical opinion would soon produce a major market for testosterone products.

The first public advocate of testosterone therapy for aging men was the popular science journalist Paul de Kruif, whose manifesto The Male Hormone was published with some fanfare in 1945. Excerpted in Reader’s Digest and promoted by a full-page review in Newsweek (“Hormones for He-Men”), The Male Hormone was in some respects a prophetic book. The potential market for a rejuvenating male hormone seemed to be enormous: “How many millions of American males, not the men they used to be, would flock to the physicians and the druggist, a bit shame-faced and surreptitious, maybe, but hopeful, murmuring: ‘Doc, how about some of this new male hormone?’”

Testosterone did not become a mass market drug in the 1940s due to the sexual conservatism of most American physicians and the society they served. The belief that testosterone was a stimulating drug made it a potential threat to sexual morality as well as a promising therapy. Sensational coverage had given the male hormone a quasi-pornographic image that its female counterpart estrogen had never acquired. Commenting on testosterone’s unsavory reputation in 1946, Science Digest reported that “the uninformed continue to believe that the sole use of this innocent chemical is to turn sexual weaklings into wolves, and octogenarians into sexual athletes.”

The 1940s also saw the use of testosterone therapy as an experimental “cure” for homosexuality. The medical view of homosexuality as a type of endocrine deficiency made the use of testosterone propionate to reverse homosexual orientation virtually predictable. As one physician in 1940 put it: “If homosexuality is merely the result of an endocrine disturbance, the prospect for its cure must be excellent today.”

The idea that the bodies of homosexuals contained less male hormone and more female hormone than those of heterosexuals first appeared in 1935. By 1940 a number of investigators were confident enough in their ability to assay hormone levels to claim that homosexuality was rooted in abnormal sex hormone ratios rather than the psychological complexes hypothesized by Freud and others. “It seems,” one research team wrote, “that the constitutional homosexual has a different sex hormone chemistry than the normal male.” The fallacy of this therapeutic rationale became evident soon enough. Testosterone propionate combined with chorionic gonadotropin was not curing homosexuals, even in studies that encouraged belief in the drug and did not compare its effects with those of a placebo. In fact, it was becoming increasingly clear that androgens did not reverse but actually intensified homosexual libido, so that “sometimes instead of helping one gets a worsening of the condition.”

Prescription for women?
Testosterone drugs were also the favored pharmacological technique of the 1940s for treating sexual “frigidity” in women. Testosterone propionate ointment could be applied to the vulva or clitoris to increase genital sensitivity. Testosterone could be injected or pellets implanted under the skin to intensify libido. By 1943 testosterone propionate was reported to be in widespread use to treat women with sexual and other endocrine disorders

[el numero uno]

Great post.

These naive tools that swear Reeves was natural....BECAUSE HE SAID SO.....make me laugh

Huh?

[JP_RC]

Great post.

These naive tools that swear Reeves was natural....BECAUSE HE SAID SO.....make me laugh

So he wasn't natural because you and gh15 say so?

Irony?

[Dokey111]

So he wasn't natural because you and gh15 say so?

Irony?

HA.  Who are you going to believe, the dead genetic marvel or the losers?

[gh15]

Only because he said so? not accurate lets also factor in that we know for a fact anabolics weren't created in the United States until years after he retired and there is NO record what so ever of any strength athlete in the United States using test before doctor John Ziegler , who abandoned the use of testosterone because it yielded no results what so ever , it's more than just his word you should try and pay attention to the thread but my speculation is you're not hear following just trolling which is nothing new for you.

half the bodybuilder in usa order omnas from europe on a regular basis,,all comes from poland ,,ask tbomb he can tel you ,,many bodybuildign in usa prefer europian stuff ,,you have mail now day ,,but there is always the good ole remailer,,or in the old times the good ole friend or yourself who trsaveled to europe,,,wether for war...or for sight seeing,,or for  work,,,and guess what...was on the steroidland

gh15 approved

[NarcissisticDeity]

half the bodybuilder in usa order omnas from europe on a regular basis,,all comes from poland ,,ask tbomb he can tel you ,,many bodybuildign in usa prefer europian stuff ,,you have mail now day ,,but there is always the good ole remailer,,or in the old times the good ole friend or yourself who trsaveled to europe,,,wether for war...or for sight seeing,,or for  work,,,and guess what...was on the steroidland

gh15 approved

There you go trying to prove your point by using the status quo for this day and age and think it applies 70 years ago , you do that when you type that all bodybuilders lie about their use , there would be no reason what so ever for Reeves to lie because they wouldn't have been illegal your claims just don't make any sense

We have an established time-line of drug use in the United States and you're claiming ( without any proof what so ever ) that Reeves predates all of this

ll reliable sources - publications by Terry Todd, John Fair, Randy Roach, Bill Starr, etc, as well as interviews and letters from John Ziegler, John Grimek, Bill March, etc - indicate that experimentation with testosterone for athletic purposes began in the U.S. sometime in either late 1954 or 1955. These 'trials' were short-lived, however, as the results were disappointing and testosterone use was deemed ineffective and carried the risk of harmful side-effects. A statistical analysis of Olympic-style Weightlifting performances published in the International Journal of the History of Sport concluded that Soviet athletes likely first used testosterone sometime between 1952 and 1956.


Ziegler learned from the Russians that they were using test on their weightlifters in 1954 ( still years after Reeves retired ) and he was the first one to attempt to use inject-able testosterone on weightlifters were ' deemed ineffective ' and carried ' harmful side-effects ' which is why he created Dianbol to have the same advantages and without the harmful side-effects

If you have any proof you would have posted it by now but as we established many times over you don't have anything and other than rumors , innuendo , lies and conspiracy theories , which is why the morons of this site like you , it's par for the course on GetBig

[NarcissisticDeity]

So he wasn't natural because you and gh15 say so?

Irony?

yeah it is and no proof what so ever either.

[Jaime]

215lbs at 6'1 and 9-10% would actually be less size than GH15 outlined for naturals lol.

The guy is a confused, jealous, bitter individual, who tends to contradict himself every other post.

There is nothing to suggest that Reeves was on anything. End of story.

[NarcissisticDeity]

215lbs at 6'1 and 9-10% would actually be less size than GH15 outlined for naturals lol.

The guy is a confused, jealous, bitter individual, who tends to contradict himself every other post.

There is nothing to suggest that Reeves was on anything. End of story.

I agree , I have no problem with steroids and I think that anyone who wants to take them should be able to legally. with that being said what he types is just utter bullshit , he's not only claiming Reeves predates the established timeline of test use in this country , he's also claiming to know what he was on , how long he was on what he used together it's an impossibility for him to know even if it were true , so in the end he's full of shit as usual.