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the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« on: December 05, 2010, 03:38:42 PM »
should not be underestimated. never focus on one without having a decent amount of the other. the most logical way is to warm up without exausting yorself, then go heavy untill your strength starts to decline, after that point do a few sets or more with light weights like 30%1 rpm even and squeeze the muscle. dont fatigue the muscle with the high reps.


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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2010, 03:41:04 PM »
should not be underestimated. never focus on one without having a decent amount of the other. the most logical way is to warm up without exausting yorself, then go heavy untill your strength starts to decline, after that point do a few sets or more with light weights like 30%1 rpm even and squeeze the muscle. dont fatigue the muscle with the high reps.



Kevin Levrone did this I believe.

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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2010, 03:42:52 PM »
jesus christ


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u rambling lately my gay friend

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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2010, 03:45:24 PM »
Depends on the individual imo.  I hardly ever go below 8 reps anymore.  Overhead I'm going very light, 20-30 reps.  "Go heavy or go home" for me translates to "Go heavy, get injured."

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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2010, 03:46:43 PM »
Depends on the individual imo.  I hardly ever go below 8 reps anymore.  Overhead I'm going very light, 20-30 reps.  "Go heavy or go home" for me translates to "Go heavy, get injured."
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2010, 03:48:33 PM »
Not sure if I agree with that
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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2010, 03:49:38 PM »
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Hmmm, I personally know guys in their 40's that are doing PLing meets......seems they go pretty heavy.
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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2010, 03:49:59 PM »
You could eat a jamaican meal and 2 oreo cookies and bench 405 naturally YO

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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2010, 03:50:05 PM »
Depends on the individual imo.  I hardly ever go below 8 reps anymore.  Overhead I'm going very light, 20-30 reps.  "Go heavy or go home" for me translates to "Go heavy, get injured."

 Yup. Really heavy lifting does lead to injury a lot faster. Personally when I doo really heavy low rep sets it doesn't really have much benefit anyway. 7 reps is usually the lowest I ever go.

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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2010, 03:50:38 PM »
Hmmm, I personally know guys in their 40's that are doing PLing meets......seems they go pretty heavy.

Maybe they stay safe not attempting 800 lbs tire flips YO

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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2010, 03:54:00 PM »
How you train doesn't really mean shit. Especially on heavy cycles, which our friend Tbombz is very much in to.
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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2010, 03:55:37 PM »
 Tbombz looks quite unimpressive considering his drug history. In my opinion.

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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2010, 04:08:42 PM »
Tbombz looks quite unimpressive considering his drug history. In my opinion.


He looks pretty bad all things considered. He was of the opinion that anybody that thought Zane looked good was because they were a twink who couldn't put on weight and were projecting. ::)

This coming from a guy who heavy cycles and uses seo's to put on size and still looks like shit.
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2010, 04:19:22 PM »
In my opinon I think that it's good to go really heavy (not more than 6 reps or so) if you aren't already super strong ie benching over 300 for 5 or 6 reps. Then when one does get super strong then I think it's a good idea to switch to higher reps, but I don't know for sure since I ain't super strong LOL!

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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2010, 04:21:26 PM »
 Avoiding injury is very important too.

 I've been lifting for 15 years without a serious injury. Going a little lighter is worth it.

 Just look at how many pros tear their muscles. Guys on this forum too.

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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2010, 04:28:33 PM »
should not be underestimated. never focus on one without having a decent amount of the other. the most logical way is to warm up without exausting yorself, then go heavy untill your strength starts to decline, after that point do a few sets or more with light weights like 30%1 rpm even and squeeze the muscle. dont fatigue the muscle with the high reps.



Why we should listen to you TBombz ?  you've  achieved absolutely nothing  naturally  .

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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2010, 04:31:42 PM »
I go heavy for teh first 1-2 exercises and try to get 6-10 reps.

Then as the workout progresses I go 'lighter' but do more reps and a bit faster.

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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2010, 04:33:37 PM »
I like to do my high rep set first when it comes to squats.  Makes the heavier set(s) seem a lot less dangerous.

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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2010, 04:45:43 PM »
You could eat a jamaican meal and 2 oreo cookies and bench 405 naturally YO
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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2010, 05:07:32 PM »
Depends on the individual imo.  I hardly ever go below 8 reps anymore.  Overhead I'm going very light, 20-30 reps.  "Go heavy or go home" for me translates to "Go heavy, get injured."
wrong. you dont get injured by going heavy, you get injured by training incorrectly- whether its improper form, improper warm up, lack of stretching, etc.  you wont grow much at all after a while if you never go below 8 reps, simply because the weight your using will not be increasing quick enough, if its increasing any at all.

Hmmm, I personally know guys in their 40's that are doing PLing meets......seems they go pretty heavy.
yuppppp. age is a number people sometimes hide behind..

In my opinon I think that it's good to go really heavy (not more than 6 reps or so) if you aren't already super strong ie benching over 300 for 5 or 6 reps. Then when one does get super strong then I think it's a good idea to switch to higher reps, but I don't know for sure since I ain't super strong LOL!
some truth to this, but eventually the guy would start to have to lift heavy again or else he would hit a platue and be unable to move past it.

I go heavy for teh first 1-2 exercises and try to get 6-10 reps.

Then as the workout progresses I go 'lighter' but do more reps and a bit faster.
good  :)


I like to do my high rep set first when it comes to squats.  Makes the heavier set(s) seem a lot less dangerous.
makes sense

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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2010, 05:21:19 PM »
Super heavy = muscle tear FACT ;)

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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2010, 05:22:36 PM »
Go fairly heavy for all movements except isolation movements ...
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Re: the importance of both heavy weight and high reps.
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2010, 05:23:44 PM »
 In the long run it's better to go for avoiding injury.

 If you lift heavy and hard for 3 years and get great results, then you tear a pec and fuck your body up, is it worth it?

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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2010, 05:26:45 PM »
In the long run it's better to go for avoiding injury.

 If you lift heavy and hard for 3 years and get great results, then you tear a pec and fuck your body up, is it worth it?

Ask Dorian ;)

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« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2010, 05:27:46 PM »
Ask Dorian ;)

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