Anyone taking advice about hormones from an internet unknown is foolish in the extreme. Pellius should know better. If you train for hypertrophy and eat extra you will produce enough growth hormone to cause growth. Adult males can grow at almost any age and perhaps easier than when younger. As far as I can see age makes little or no difference. Getting your muscles stimulated to grow is the key.
Taking advice over the internet can be foolish. One has to learn to use reason and common sense. You give a lot of advice. Why should we listen to you? When we read gh15 we ask ourselves does it make sense? Arnold at his peak was 6'2", 235-240 lbs. In his time no one was close to his level. Ronnie was, what? 5'10" 285 lbs. with less body fat. What changed? Better training? Better nutrition? Perhaps. But not enough to make this much of a difference. To me it makes much more sense that it was more drugs and HGH. And that's pretty much what gh15 is saying. Do you disagree?
You make a lot of claims about the human body regarding training protocol, the body's response to it and protein requirements. You claimed that I didn't need much more than 20-50 grams a day. Where and how did you get that figure?
You say that you can grow at any age and perhaps even better than when younger. What do you base that on when it is disproved time and again in the real world and proven in scientific studies. You cannot build muscles if you have no testosterone. You cannot build muscles if you have no HGH? Both of these hormones decrease exponentially as you grow older. Fact.
I went on a "bulking" routine earlier this year and modified my training and increase calories tremendously. By the time I got up to 200 lbs I could see I was definitely putting on fat and very little muscle. Would I have had the same response if I went on the gh15 -ona program? I can't know with 100% certainty unless I actually try it but I have a feeling that a big helping of testosterona (750-1000mg/wk) and GHona (say 8ius) would have made a bit of a difference. Do you deny that?
We listen to him because we see proof in the real world. He can provide thousands of examples. You cannot provide one. Robby Robinson, Tony Pearson, Sly Stallone -- even Cher, are in the shape that they are in and look the way they do not just because of plastic surgery and exercise. It's because of hormones. HGH in all of them. Do you deny that?
There's a reason why it is so difficult to put on muscle beyond normal levels. Your body simply does not like it or want it and given the slightest excuse will get rid of it. There's a metabolic cost to having muscle. Even at rest it still requires blood supply, oxygen, nutrients.... Not so with fat which from your body's perspective is stored energy which your body wants. That's why we have a virtually limitless capacity to put on fat. When your leg is in a cast for 6 weeks it doesn't lose fat but the muscle disappears quickly.
When we listen to you and listen to gh15 we ask ourselves who makes more sense and who's teachings actually work in the real world. If there are two identical twins and one follows, to the letter, the Basile principles of the grand unified theory of muscle hypertrophy versus the gh15 bible in six months who wins?
You make claims regarding age and protein requirements that you can't back up whereas there are countless studies -- scientific studies that prove you wrong. Here are just two that I came across recently. Your body just does not respond the same when we get older. Everyone who is now past forty, including yourself, knows this empirically without the need for studies but it is a mystery to me why you deny this.
I remember my doctor, whose care I was under for HRT, explaining to me all the biological processes that occur when a person gets older. Hormone levels drop, you lose the ability to recover and repair yourself... everything that an older person experiences first hand. Including you. I asked him why this happens. I mean, I thought we are designed for survival. To live and to stay alive. He just smiled and said that's true but that "We are not designed to live forever."
As Good As It Gets: Octogenarian Muscles Don't Get Stronger With Exercise, Study Finds
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090331091250.htm "In an earlier study, the researchers found that the muscles of octogenarian men also failed to gain strength with the exercise program. Together, the studies show that the muscles of octogenarian men and women are far less responsive to improving with exercise, even compared to people only 10 years younger."
“The message of the study is that exercise is good for octogenarians, just not as good as we thought it would be,” Dr. Trappe said. The study also suggests that it is better to build as much muscle mass as possible earlier in life to ensure more muscle strength in later life. “We should do all we can to educate people to build up the muscle before 80,” he said.
More Protein, Less Refined Starch Important for Dieting, Large Study Shows
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101124171536.htm(True Adonis please take note)
Drastic increases in blood glucose levels give rise to several potentially undesirable effects that can influence the body's metabolism as well as our ability to perform mentally. It is therefore most appropriate to maintain a diet that results in slow digestion and thus more stable blood glucose levels and greater satiety.
