If FatPanda can prove he weight 175lbs...

[Fatpanda]

less than 170lbs  .. proly 8% plus bf

and 5'10

Like I said, if you are even that lean with 175lbs, then you have been partly true this entire time... and you will obviously shut me up, but as for now, you don't have any kind of muscle shape going on, nobody can tell what's your body gonna look like even remotely.  

less than 175?

how much less ?

it would be very difficult for me to get that lean, but do not talk to me about muscle yo have none.

[devilsmile]

less than 175?

how much less ?

it would be very difficult for me to get that lean, but do not talk to me about muscle yo have none.

my bw is in 166-168 daily.

Very difficult to get that lean? How much more muscle do you have on me then  ... seriously, if you can't be that lean at 175 after being 250 pounder, then sheesh.... how much do you squat/bench/deadlift/curl/dumbel fly etc?

[newmom]

less than 175?

how much less ?

it would be very difficult for me to get that lean, but do not talk to me about muscle yo have none.

whoa, now I'm no devilsmile fan, but he can talk shit and from the pics he posted he has muscle. He's no Jay Cutler, but dude has ripped abs for sure

[Fatpanda]

my bw is in 166-168 daily.

Very difficult to get that lean? How much muscle more do you have on me then  ... seriously, if you can't be that lean at 175 after being 250 pounder, then sheesh.... how much do you squat/bench/deadlift/curl/dumbel fly etc?

you clearly have no idea how the human body works.

skin thickness, previous fat levels, muscle levels, metabolism, nutrient partitioning ratios, etc all effect how hard it is to get that sort of condition when i have never been that lean before.

i can get to that weight, and i hope i'm close to that condition, but i feel it will take some real punishment on my part - perhaps even chemical assistance to get like that.

i say that knowing i have been 147lbs before and i was still no where near your condition despite working out 5 times a week with weights along with 30mins of cardio 5 days a week also. i was also eating very little calories to achieve that weight - around 800-1000 a day if i remember correctly.

you are clearly naturally lean and you may workout but claiming some sort of victory because of something that comes naturally to you is nothing to be proud of.

get your weight up to 280 like i have and i will be impressed. or perhaps even 200 with the same level of conditioning.

you have no clue what if feels to have been 280lbs, then to drop that weight to yours, let alone understand how to do it.

whoa, now I'm no devilsmile fan, but he can talk shit and from the pics he posted he has muscle. He's no Jay Cutler, but dude has ripped abs for sure

i don't think he has much muscle, some yes, and he looks great but his leanness is what makes him look like he does, not his muscle mass. meth addicts have that same look.

[devilsmile]

little muscle yes... hell yes I ain't big, newsflash there  . What I'm saying is, I never claim anything other than what I am and take it as it is. But to try to sweeten the facts and make them look colorfull is just waiste of time.

Your whole opening up thread where you wanted to pursue a bodybuilding career kinda seemed weird, you even admitted there that you just gained fat and fat...

you didn't "bulk up" to 250lbs or 280lbs, your body is so fucked up that you can't help it, that's the problem.

I'm at under 170lbs now and lean, without any "low carb" diets or cardio that much, do you even realise how impossible it is for me to be 280lbs now, lol talk about "not knowing how human anatomy works", If I would bulk up like a "bodybuilder" from this weught I'd say I would be at 180lbs at VERY maximum ... if even that. When I'm RIPPED 180lbs, then i would bulk up to over 200lbs etc etc...

lol, 280lbs, yeah everyone can do it  , especially when you have a hormon deficiency  

[mass 04]

che will be leaving.

i also assume the following:

no one
mass
mezo
dk
hulkotron
shockwave
disturbia
w8m8

I don't care what you do or how you do it, sugartits. I hope you lose weight.

[dj181]

Allright panda, I hear wot you is saying in regards to devil being young and probably never an out of shape toad, so let me tell you my story. I'm 36, and for the past few years I was stuck at about 175 @ 20% with a 38.5 in waist. Yeah man, I was skinny fat. Now I'm 170 @ 12% with a 32 inch waist. If you calculate out these numbers, you will clearly see that I lost fat, while gaining muscle. And, I am a lifetime natural. How did I do it? HARD AND CONSISTANT TRAINING IS HOW I DID IT.

[Fatpanda]

little muscle yes... hell yes I ain't big, newsflash there  . What I'm saying is, I never claim anything other than what I am and take it as it is. But to try to sweeten the facts and make them look colorfull is just waiste of time.

Your whole opening up thread where you wanted to pursue a bodybuilding career kinda seemed weird, you even admitted there that you just gained fat and fat...

you didn't "bulk up" to 250lbs or 280lbs, your body is so fucked up that you can't help it, that's the problem.

I'm at under 170lbs now and lean, without any "low carb" diets or cardio that much, do you even realise how impossible it is for me to be 280lbs now, lol talk about "not knowing how human anatomy works", If I would bulk up like a "bodybuilder" from this weught I'd say I would be at 180lbs at VERY maximum ... if even that. When I'm RIPPED 180lbs, then i would bulk up to over 200lbs etc etc...

lol, 280lbs, yeah everyone can do it  , especially when you have a hormon deficiency  

you see, this is where you are failing to grasp my history.

i wasn't always the fat dude with tits thats posted around here. i was 280 with a shit load of muscle 19" arms etc some fat, and i have been 147, slim with some muscle. no steroids. i then started fucking around with the odd dbol, winny etc nothing heavy, long term or remarkable. i then tore my rotators and stopped lifting, while eating more because i was down, and simply greedy.

you can put on muscle and strength if you lift and eat right as dj points out.

i am fat now only because i ate too much, nothing else.

until you actually make any changes worth talking about you should keep quiet about lifting and diet.

p.s. when did i say i wanted to persue a bodybuilding career  i said no such thing.

[devilsmile]

you see, this is where you are failing to grasp my history.

i wasn't always the fat dude with tits thats posted around here. i was 280 with a shit load of muscle 19" arms etc some fat, and i have been 147, slim with some muscle. no steroids. i then started fucking around with the odd dbol, winny etc nothing heavy, long term or remarkable. i then tore my rotators and stopped lifting, while eating more because i was down, and simply greedy.

you can put on muscle and strength if you lift and eat right as dj points out.

i am fat now only because i ate too much, nothing else.

until you actually make any changes worth talking about you should keep quiet about lifting and diet.

p.s. when did i say i wanted to persue a bodybuilding career   i said no such thing.

well, I'm a proud man, but I'm not a thick headed man and never have a problem to admit when I'm wrong.

if I had known all that what you just said in the beginning, I wouldn't have given any shit.

as for my own changes, I'm actually still not at my best shape EVER believe it or not. Living in the north ain't for sissys, having fevers and small flus every now and then will put my physical fitness down... for a guy of my size I have deceant strength results but flus and shit like that should stay away completely if i was to gain serious muscle and have a new base, lets say 170lbs at my worst day and ripped . but it requires that i stay healthy year round.

[Option D]

over skype

LMAO

[Fatpanda]

well, I'm a proud man, but I'm not a thick headed man and never have a problem to admit when I'm wrong.

if I had known all that what you just said in the beginning, I wouldn't have given any shit.

as for my own changes, I'm actually still not at my best shape EVER believe it or not. Living in the north ain't for sissys, having a 2-3 months lasting fever and small flus every now and then will put my physical fitness down... for a guy of my size I have deceant strength results but flus and shit like that should stay away completely if i was to gain serious muscle and have a new base, lets say 170lbs at worst. but it requires that i stay healthy year round.

i stay in scotland, its cold and wet here all the time, but nothing that you go through, so i can understand what you mean.

flus and fevers could be signs of overtraining ? do you use volume training ?

for what its worth, i believe you could be a champion bodybuilder if you really wanted to be.

[dj181]

One more thing that I "discoverd/remembed" this gig is a lifestyle, and you have to do it day in and day out, and if you don't you WILL lose size and condition, and you WILL get fatter and fatter if you overeat after stopping hard and consistant training, so that IS THE PRICE THAT MUST BE PAID, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

[devilsmile]

i stay in scotland, its cold and wet here all the time, but nothing that you go through, so i can understand what you mean.

flus and fevers could be signs of overtraining ? do you use volume training ?

for what its worth, i believe you could be a champion bodybuilder if you really wanted to be.

it's overtraining for sure, I know that... but do I ever learn, when training is going so well you just want to keep pushing it, then the second morning you wake up and you cough your lungs out... it's overtraining, immune system is constantly below what it should be.

And I should probably go walking/jogging outside more often, not for the "cardio/fatloss" but just to get fresh air more.

lol champion bodybuilder, well first I would just like to get bigger and not get sick right after that 

 

btw, no homo

[epic_alien]

this whole scene and charade fatpanda is putting on reminds me of the  fat people who come into gyms after the first of the year,

they spout off and talk shit and say how they will be kicking ass and taking names, and how they want the toughest trainer, and how they will be looking better than the trainer in no time, all rolly polly full of joy and spazed out to the hilt.


only to be spotted on the gym floor a week later, confused, not talking to anyone, and texting on their phone while riding the recumbent bike on the lowest level.

[dr.chimps]

this whole scene and charade fatpanda is putting on reminds me of the  fat people who come into gyms after the first of the year,

they spout off and talk shit and say how they will be kicking ass and taking names, and how they want the toughest trainer, and how they will be looking better than the trainer in no time, all rolly polly full of joy and spazed out to the hilt.


only to be spotted on the gym floor a week later, confused, not talking to anyone, and texting on their phone while riding the recumbent bike on the lowest level.

Sadly true. The only guy I can think of at my gym who's actually lost noticeable weight is the crazy guy who always does the whole gym giant sets which includes noisy intervals with the heavy bag. I'd congratulate him but he doesn't talk to anybody, and most people give him his space. 

[Fatpanda]

 

[Jaime]

Even if Fatpanda did get down to 180lb which would be very difficult given his current progress, the guy just fucking balloons when he eats, nobody without severe fatty genetics could get that fat.

I call ballshit on the whole endeavour, no way he gets down to 175lb naturally.

[chaos]

but do not talk to me about muscle yo have none.

HHHHHHHHHHHAhahahahhahaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha a!!!!!!!!!

Like you have any muscle under that fatsuit you're sportin around?? hahaaa!!!!

[no one]

che will be leaving.

i also assume the following:

no one
mass
mezo
dk
hulkotron
shockwave
disturbia
w8m8

although they have not officially confirmed yet - but i'm sure they will - after all i have no will power  
over skype

lolo why would i leave if you weigh 175 pounds?

do you honestly think i care enough about you, or what you are doing to 'leave' the board should you accomplish your little goal? fuck that's mighty lofty of you to assume so, shitbag.

news flash: i could care less either way, you fat fuck.

lol

[Fallsview]

FatPanda,  You are a Scot?  What clan?



STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Captain Equipoise]

I'm surprised nobody's addressed the loose skin issue yet...when someone loses 50+ lbs. this usually occurs.

[chaos]

I'm surprised nobody's addressed the loose skin issue yet...when someone loses 50+ lbs. this usually occurs.

It's been addressed many times, you were just looking for an excuse to post that pic.

[Captain Equipoise]

It's been addressed many times, you were just looking for an excuse to post that pic.

touchè 

[newmom]

I'm surprised nobody's addressed the loose skin issue yet...when someone loses 50+ lbs. this usually occurs.

I have said this before. The loose skin varies on people depending on the situation. I would guess that whoever is in this picture was obese and/or overweight for awhile, if not most of his life. Also depends on if they worked out during the weight loss as well. I have a tad on the lower ab area and only surgery can fix it. Been to 2 plastic surgeons and estimate to get it done is 2-2500k.

[Mr Nobody]

Sadly true. The only guy I can think of at my gym who's actually lost noticeable weight is the crazy guy who always does the whole gym giant sets which includes noisy intervals with the heavy bag. I'd congratulate him but he doesn't talk to anybody, and most people give him his space. 

Sounds like he is using Falcon pricinples ie reps and punching.