1999 Arnold Classic

[Parker]

but what is your explanation that he beat shawn and kevin MANY TIMES when they were on?!

Shawn was a smaller dude, who also chastised and criticized the judges, and many times his places were punishment, as one judge (who is now dead, and King Kamali infamously had thanked for his pro card), Shawn Ray, comes in looking the same, and Shawn questioned her and got into with her and other judges. Most people, not just on this board, but in the bbing community would consider Shawn Ray a far more complete bber than Nasser, and should have placed higher than Nasser.

Kevin was a story of small Kev vs big Kev, After Kev won the Arnold 2X, he would just show up to collect a check, and he was small, then he would ramp up for the Mr. O. Kev also had a leg injury...

But, none of those guy ever showed up in the condition that Nasser yrs later at the Arnold---shitty back and abcess...he should have never competed.

[NarcissisticDeity]

shawn was on in mr. olympia 95, 97, &, 98 and was beaten by nasser.. same can be said about levrone in 97 and 98!!.. dont tell me kevin was not at his absolute best in these 2 shows because nasser too was not but still both of them were on..

Shawn was better in 94 and 96 guess who he beat then Nasser , and Nasser was on in 1996 more so than 1997 and Levrone's best was 92/95 and you know the deal

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[Sherief Shalaby]

Shawn was better in 94 and 96 guess who he beat then Nasser , and Nasser was on in 1996 more so than 1997 and Levrone's best was 92/95 and you know the deal

according to flex magazine (your own bible and main source of your claims) ray was the same in 95 as 94 ..

and again and by all means he was still on in 95 even if you are trying to say he was better in other years.. and nasser in 94 was still a 2nd level pro. so it's assholness to compare him then by ray who was the runner up.. it's like saying mr. XXX and YYY beat ronnie coleman in 1992!!!..

also nasser never faced any of the VERY top pros of the 90s at his very best shape which he presented in 1995 at the NOC..

[Sherief Shalaby]

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

according to flex magazine (your own bible and main source of your claims) ray was the same in 95 as 94 ..

and again and by all means he was still on in 95 even if you are trying to say he was better in other years.. and nasser in 94 was still a 2nd level pro. so it's assholness to compare him then by ray who was the runner up.. it's like saying mr. XXX and YYY beat ronnie coleman in 1992!!!..

also nasser never faced any of the VERY top pros of the 90s at his very best shape which he presented in 1995 at the NOC..

I don't think so , he was more the same in 192/93/94 


the bottom line is Nasser who said his best year was 1996 was beaten by Shawn Ray in 1996

[NarcissisticDeity]

Since when did they base an entire contest on one pose? oh that's right they don't which is why Nasser lost 

Dorian at his worse still soundly beats Nasser , this speaks volumes on how great Dorian was and proves my point about Nasser not being good enough to run with the bog dogs 

[Sherief Shalaby]

I don't think so , he was more the same in 192/93/94 


the bottom line is Nasser who said his best year was 1996 was beaten by Shawn Ray in 1996

the bottom line is you have nothing to say after i proved you were wrong to say nasser never beat shawn and levrone when they were on..

conclusion: you lose as always when it comes to logic and let's not forget your funny gems on GB when you said Fux was a mr. olympia material and that nasser's frame was not built to be a mass monster and that dorain was proportioned in 97 

[Sherief Shalaby]

Since when did they base an entire contest on one pose? oh that's right they don't which is why Nasser lost 

Dorian at his worse still soundly beats Nasser , this speaks volumes on how great Dorian was and proves my point about Nasser not being good enough to run with the bog dogs 

yates imo had the best back ever and in this shot he clearly owns both ray and nasser by a far distance.. and i respect yates as a great champ but in 97 he didnt deserve to win and if you are saying nasser looked bad in the 2 back poses dorian looked very bad in more than 2 poses!!..

[NarcissisticDeity]

the bottom line is you have nothing to say after i proved you were wrong to say nasser never beat shawn and levrone when they were on..

conclusion: you lose as always when it comes to logic and let's not forget your funny gems on GB when you said Fux was a mr. olympia material and that nasser's frame was not built to be a mass monster and that dorain was proportioned in 97 

You proved NOTHING as usual Nasser and Shawn were both dead-on in 1996 , no excuses , where did Nasser place at the 1996 Mr Olympia? ummm before he was DQ'ed for diuretics? 

Now you're reduced to lying , I did absolutely say Fux was Mr Olympia material under the right set of circumstances , and I never said Nasser's frame wasn't built to be a mass-monster that's an out right lie you keep perpetuating , I did in fact say he carried his size well and playing mass monster didn't do anything for him because his back went to shit for it among other things

and Dorian was proportioned in 97? show me the context I said this because I've already showed you have poor comprehension skills and make shit up when you get frustrated , back up your empty claims for one 

Shawn was on in 1996 , Nasser was too in fact so much so he claimed he deserved to win the Olympia , I'll ask again where did Dorian , Shawn and Nasser place at this contest?   

[NarcissisticDeity]

yates imo had the best back ever and in this shot he clearly owns both ray and nasser by a far distance.. and i respect yates as a great champ but in 97 he didnt deserve to win and if you are saying nasser looked bad in the 2 back poses dorian looked very bad in more than 2 poses!!..

You're getting off-topic

[Sherief Shalaby]

You proved NOTHING as usual Nasser and Shawn were both dead-on in 1996 , no excuses , where did Nasser place at the 1996 Mr Olympia? ummm before he was DQ'ed for diuretics? 

Now you're reduced to lying , I did absolutely say Fux was Mr Olympia material under the right set of circumstances , and I never said Nasser's frame wasn't built to be a mass-monster that's an out right lie you keep perpetuating , I did in fact say he carried his size well and playing mass monster didn't do anything for him because his back went to shit for it among other things

and Dorian was proportioned in 97? show me the context I said this because I've already showed you have poor comprehension skills and make shit up when you get frustrated , back up your empty claims for one 

Shawn was on in 1996 , Nasser was too in fact so much so he claimed he deserved to win the Olympia , I'll ask again where did Dorian , Shawn and Nasser place at this contest?   

but i didnt mentioned 96!!.. i am not talking here about places nasser should have taken i am talking about the places he really took!!.. so in 95, 97, and, 98 he beat ray and you can't say ray was not on in any of these years EVEN IF HE WAS NOT AT HIS VERY BEST!!.. same can be said about levrone in 97 and 98.. so again we were wrong to object on what i said that nasser beat ray and kevin when they were on at many occasions..

[Sherief Shalaby]

You're getting off-topic

no i am not.. you posted a pic. from 97 so i was just commenting on it!!..

[NarcissisticDeity]

but i didnt mentioned 96!!.. i am not talking here about places nasser should have taken i am talking about the places he really took!!.. so in 95, 97, and, 98 he beat ray and you can't say ray was not on in any of these years EVEN IF HE WAS NOT AT HIS VERY BEST!!.. same can be said about levrone in 97 and 98.. so again we were wrong to object on what i said that nasser beat ray and kevin when they were on at many occasions..

Bottom line when the real top guys are on Nasser LOSES when their off , he wins. not his fault but it's a fact and of course you don't want to mention 1996 because your point becomes null & void , both Shawn and Nasser were dead on the money and where did Nasser place?

Kevin's best wasn't 97 or 98 by any stretch more fluff from you

Nasser is NOT as good as you people try and make him out to be , history proves me right.

[NarcissisticDeity]

no i am not.. you posted a pic. from 97 so i was just commenting on it!!..

You're claiming at their bests Nasser wins which isn't true , you opened that door which is off topic of the 99 ASC

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hey Nasser how did that mass monster thing work out for you? hahahahahahahahahaha not very good not for your back at least 

[Sherief Shalaby]

Bottom line when the real top guys are on Nasser LOSES when their off , he wins. not his fault but it's a fact and of course you don't want to mention 1996 because your point becomes null & void , both Shawn and Nasser were dead on the money and where did Nasser place?

Kevin's best wasn't 97 or 98 by any stretch more fluff from you

Nasser is NOT as good as you people try and make him out to be , history proves me right.

but i didnt say kevin's best was in 97 or 98!!.. all what i said he was not off and was beaten by nasser (who too was not at his best) and this is against your objection when i said nasser beat ray and kevin many times when they were on..

[Sherief Shalaby]

You're claiming at their bests Nasser wins which isn't true , you opened that door which is off topic of the 99 ASC

man you really have nothing to say!!.. i didnt say at there best i said when they were on and there is a big difference.. give you an example to simplify it so you can understand (as i do with my 3 years kid) and i will use dorian in the example because i know you love him:

- dorian was on in 1992..
- doran was on in 1993 and it was his best shape ever..

you finally got it now??..

[NarcissisticDeity]

but i didnt say kevin's best was in 97 or 98!!.. all what i said he was not off and was beaten by nasser (who too was not at his best) and this is against your objection when i said nasser beat ray and kevin many times when they were on..

many times? Kevin wiped the floor with Nasser , wanna revisit that thread? and how many times exactly did Nasser beat Shawn? three times , so much for many times

stop trying to fluff up how many times Nasser beat Shawn & Kevin because it was more often than not that they were beating him

[NarcissisticDeity]

man you really have nothing to say!!.. i didnt say at there best i said when they were on and there is a big difference.. give you an example to simplify it so you can understand (as i do with my 3 years kid) and i will use dorian in the example because i know you love him:

- dorian was on in 1992..
- doran was on in 1993 and it was his best shape ever..

you finally got it now??..

Nasser still got his ass handed to him by Kevin & Shawn more than he beat them , simple math , Nasser wasn't as good as them

 Kevin beat Nasser 24 times , Nasser beat Kevin 10, Shawn beat Nasser 5 times , Nasser beat him 3 times

this irrefutably proves Nasser wasn't as good as either regardless of who was at their best or not , you can't argue with facts kid 

[Sherief Shalaby]

Nasser still got his ass handed to him by Kevin & Shawn more than he beat them , simple math , Nasser wasn't as good as them

 Kevin beat Nasser 24 times , Nasser beat Kevin 10, Shawn beat Nasser 5 times , Nasser beat him 3 times

this irrefutably proves Nasser wasn't as good as either regardless of who was at their best or not , you can't argue with facts kid 

but still my claim that nasser beat them when they were on (which you didn't agree with) is proved to be right so all what you are saying here has no value in our argument!!..

dorian's boy loses again,.. nothing new..

[NarcissisticDeity]

but still my claim that nasser beat them when they were on (which you didn't agree with) is proved to be right so all what you are saying here has no value in our argument!!..

dorian's boy loses again,.. nothing new..

Your claim is shit plain & simple , Nasser lost to them more than he beat them , Kevin and Shawn beat him he was on too , you have no point as usual

Nasser was and is an inferior bodybuilder to Kevin , Shawn , Flex , Ronnie , Dorian , shall I continue? Kevin was a part-time bodybuilder who didn't train more than he did , imagine if he when year round? the discrepancy between him and Nasser would have been even greater  Nasser devoted his whole to bodybuilding and routinely got his ass handed  to him by part-time bodybuilders , and guys who weighed 70lbs less than him  nevermind the King Dorian


like Nasser you're a loser  

[FREAKgeek]

 I tend to experience deja vu a lot on these threads...

[NarcissisticDeity]

I tend to experience deja vu a lot on these threads...

yeah Sherief getting his ass handed to him for constantly trying to fluff up Nasser to something he wasn't , what else do you expect from someone who dedicated a Facebook page to him 

[bigbobs]

Shawn was a smaller dude, who also chastised and criticized the judges, and many times his places were punishment, as one judge (who is now dead, and King Kamali infamously had thanked for his pro card), Shawn Ray, comes in looking the same, and Shawn questioned her and got into with her and other judges. Most people, not just on this board, but in the bbing community would consider Shawn Ray a far more complete bber than Nasser, and should have placed higher than Nasser.

Kevin was a story of small Kev vs big Kev, After Kev won the Arnold 2X, he would just show up to collect a check, and he was small, then he would ramp up for the Mr. O. Kev also had a leg injury...

But, none of those guy ever showed up in the condition that Nasser yrs later at the Arnold---shitty back and abcess...he should have never competed.

Oh brother you can't hide your bias and love towards the black even if you tried.  When Nasser fans say he was chastised by judges people cry "how could he have placed well in many shows then?!" yet now you're blatantly claiming that Shawn Ray was chastised by judges lol.  And then your next paragraph goes on to say that Kevin wasn't trying to win but just collect a cheque?  You are always full of excuses whenever a Black competitor does not win or places below someone you don't like such as Nasser.