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« Reply #76 on: January 31, 2011, 07:23:42 PM »
Muslim Brotherhood Members to Attend Obama's Cairo Speech

Published June 03, 2009
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Egyptian lawmakers from the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood are expected to attend President Obama's highly anticipated speech to the Muslim world Thursday in Cairo.

Khaled Hamza, editor of the Muslim Brotherhood Web site, confirmed to FOXNews.com that 10 members of the Brotherhood's parliamentary bloc received official invitations to attend the speech.

The list includes Mohammed Saad el-Katatni, head of the parliamentary bloc.

The expected attendance of the Brotherhood members already is stirring some criticism from conservatives in the U.S. who say they do not represent the kind of moderate Muslims Obama should be appealing to.

"What kind of signal are we sending?" said Rep. Pete Hoekstra, ranking Republican on the House intelligence committee, warning that such an invitation will be seen more as a sign of weakness than strength. "I think the president takes some big risks by unilaterally putting out these olive branches."

The Muslim Brotherhood, though, has a complicated history.

Though the hard-line group, which calls for an Islamic state and has close ties to the militant Hamas, is officially banned in Egypt, its members have considerable sway in the country and its lawmakers, who run as independents, hold 88 seats in Egypt's 454-seat parliament.

The Brotherhood renounced the use of violence in the 1970s and now says it seeks democratic reform in Egypt. It is the most powerful opposition movement in the country, and many analysts argue Washington should engage the Brotherhood directly to show it is open to dealing with nonviolent Islamist movements.

The group is not on the State Department's official list of foreign terrorist groups.

Despite some reports suggesting the Obama administration arranged the invitations, officials said invitations were only sent out by Cairo University and Al-Azhar University.

"I can tell you that invitations have gone out to the full range of actors in Egyptian political society," Obama adviser Denis McDonough said Friday.

It is unclear what Muslim Brotherhood members hope to hear in the speech. One member said last month on the group's Web site that Obama's trip to Egypt would be "useless" unless preceded by concrete changes in U.S. foreign policy.

Scott Wheeler, director of the National Republican Trust PAC, slammed the administration for apparently allowing the Muslim Brotherhood into the event.

In a written statement, he charged that the group is linked to "international terrorists attacks, advocates suicide bombings, and the very founders of Hamas."

"The American people did not vote for President Barack Hussein Obama to make peace with Muslim terrorists," he said in the statement.

Obama is hoping to strengthen fractured ties between the East and West in his Cairo speech Thursday.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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« Reply #77 on: January 31, 2011, 07:25:50 PM »
Obama Administration Lifts US Ban on Muslim Brotherhood Leader
 
by Avi Yellin



http://www.israelnationalnews.com//News/News.aspx/135654



The Barack Obama administration has decided to lift a ban preventing Muslim Scholar Professor Tariq Ramadan from entering the United States. Ramadan, an Egyptian currently living in Switzerland, is a leading member of Europe’s Muslim Brotherhood branch and the grandson of the movement’s founder Hassan al-Banna. The Muslim Brotherhood is the parent organization for Hamas and some of the groups that recently merged into al-Qaeda, including Ayman al Zawahiri’s Egyptian Islamic Jihad.

Ramadan was invited to teach at the University of Notre Dame in 2004 but the George W. Bush administration revoked his visa, citing a statute that applies to those who have “endorsed or espoused” terrorism. The administration later dropped the terror endorsement claim and linked the ban to $1,336 in donations Ramadan made between 1998 and 2002 to a Swiss charity that was later blacklisted by the US.

Although the White House asked the court last March to uphold the Bush-era entry ban on Ramadan, the administration has now decided to lift the ban and possibly allow both Ramadan and South African Muslim activist Professor Adam Habib onto American soil. State Department spokesman Philip Crowley told reporters that the government no longer views Ramadan or Habib as representing threats to the United States. “The next time Professor Ramadan or Professor Habib apply for a visa, they will not be found inadmissible on the basis of the facts that led to denial when they last applied.”

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Re: Egypt is burning, Tunisia has been overthrown etc.
« Reply #78 on: January 31, 2011, 07:34:47 PM »
Egyptian newspaper Almasry Alyoum reports...

if there's one thing I know after watching the week of covers, it's that we can trust teh Egyptian media :)

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Re: Egypt is burning, Tunisia has been overthrown etc.
« Reply #79 on: January 31, 2011, 07:45:49 PM »
Obama Administration Lifts US Ban on Muslim Brotherhood Leader
 
by Avi Yellin



http://www.israelnationalnews.com//News/News.aspx/135654



The Barack Obama administration has decided to lift a ban preventing Muslim Scholar Professor Tariq Ramadan from entering the United States. Ramadan, an Egyptian currently living in Switzerland, is a leading member of Europe’s Muslim Brotherhood branch and the grandson of the movement’s founder Hassan al-Banna. The Muslim Brotherhood is the parent organization for Hamas and some of the groups that recently merged into al-Qaeda, including Ayman al Zawahiri’s Egyptian Islamic Jihad.

Ramadan was invited to teach at the University of Notre Dame in 2004 but the George W. Bush administration revoked his visa, citing a statute that applies to those who have “endorsed or espoused” terrorism. The administration later dropped the terror endorsement claim and linked the ban to $1,336 in donations Ramadan made between 1998 and 2002 to a Swiss charity that was later blacklisted by the US.

Although the White House asked the court last March to uphold the Bush-era entry ban on Ramadan, the administration has now decided to lift the ban and possibly allow both Ramadan and South African Muslim activist Professor Adam Habib onto American soil. State Department spokesman Philip Crowley told reporters that the government no longer views Ramadan or Habib as representing threats to the United States. “The next time Professor Ramadan or Professor Habib apply for a visa, they will not be found inadmissible on the basis of the facts that led to denial when they last applied.”

(IsraelNationalNews.com)





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Re: Egypt is burning, Tunisia has been overthrown etc.
« Reply #80 on: January 31, 2011, 07:50:16 PM »
BF - check this out.    

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Smell the tolerance. This guy is going to go down as the biggest foreign policy disaster ever. Going to leave Carter in his wake.


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Re: Egypt is burning, Tunisia has been overthrown etc.
« Reply #81 on: January 31, 2011, 07:52:55 PM »
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Re: Egypt is burning, Tunisia has been overthrown etc.
« Reply #82 on: January 31, 2011, 07:54:52 PM »
Know Islam, Know Violence.
No Islam, No Violence.

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Re: Egypt is burning, Tunisia has been overthrown etc.
« Reply #83 on: January 31, 2011, 08:06:22 PM »
Know Islam, Know Violence.
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Dude your a retard,your mind is obsessed with conflict.

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« Reply #84 on: January 31, 2011, 08:09:37 PM »
Dude your a retard,your mind is obsessed with conflict.

Conflict? Ha. It's cute, though, the manic depressive "I'm suicidal and C-C-C-C-CRAZY" douche is still following me around. Unlike some of the others, I'm not going to coddle a troll. Probably the last time I'll respond to a post of yours in this thread, also.  :)

Move along, you illiterate, uneducated baby.

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« Reply #85 on: February 01, 2011, 04:37:48 AM »
February 1, 2011
Clueless in Washington
By Caroline Glick

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The Egyptian multitudes on the streets of Cairo are a stunning sight. With their banners calling for freedom and an end to the reign of President Hosni Mubarak the story these images tell is a simple one as old as time.

On the one hand we have the young, dispossessed and weak protesters. And on the other we have the old, corrupt and tyrannical Mubarak. Hans Christian Andersen taught us who to support when we were wee tots.

 
But does his wisdom apply in this case?

Certainly it is true that the regime is populated by old men. Mubarak is 82 years old. It is also true that his regime is corrupt and tyrannical. Since the Muslim Brotherhood spinoff Islamic Jihad terror group murdered Mubarak's predecessor president Anwar Sadat in 1981, Egypt has been governed by emergency laws that ban democratic freedoms. Mubarak has consistently rejected US pressure to ease regime repression and enact liberal reforms in governance.

This reality has led many American commentators across the political spectrum to side enthusiastically with the rioters. A prestigious working group on Egypt formed in recent months by Middle East experts from Left and Right issued a statement over the weekend calling for the Obama administration to dump Mubarak and withdraw its support for the Egyptian regime. It recommended further that the administration force Mubarak to abdicate and his regime to fall by suspending all economic and military assistance to Egypt for the duration.

The blue ribbon panel's recommendations were applauded by its members' many friends across the political spectrum. For instance, the conservative Weekly Standard's editor William Kristol praised the panel on Sunday and wrote, "It's time for the US government to take an active role... to bring about a South Korea/Philippines/Chile-like transition in Egypt, from an American-supported dictatorship to an American-supported and popularly legitimate liberal democracy."

The problem with this recommendation is that it is based entirely on the nature of Mubarak's regime. If the regime was the biggest problem, then certainly removing US support for it would make sense. However, the character of the protesters is not liberal.

Indeed, their character is a bigger problem than the character of the regime they seek to overthrow.

According to a Pew opinion survey of Egyptians from June 2010, 59 percent said they back Islamists. Only 27% said they back modernizers. Half of Egyptians support Hamas. Thirty percent support Hizbullah and 20% support al Qaida. Moreover, 95% of them would welcome Islamic influence over their politics. When this preference is translated into actual government policy, it is clear that the Islam they support is the al Qaida Salafist version.

Eighty two percent of Egyptians support executing adulterers by stoning, 77% support whipping and cutting the hands off thieves. 84% support executing any Muslim who changes his religion.

When given the opportunity, the crowds on the street are not shy about showing what motivates them. They attack Mubarak and his new Vice President Omar Suleiman as American puppets and Zionist agents. The US, protesters told CNN's Nick Robertson, is controlled by Israel. They hate and want to destroy Israel. That is why they hate Mubarak and Suleiman.

WHAT ALL of this makes clear is that if the regime falls, the successor regime will not be a liberal democracy. Mubarak's military authoritarianism will be replaced by Islamic totalitarianism. The US's greatest Arab ally will become its greatest enemy. Israel's peace partner will again become its gravest foe.

Understanding this, Israeli officials and commentators have been nearly unanimous in their negative responses to what is happening in Egypt. The IDF, the national security council, all intelligence agencies and the government as well as the media have all agreed that Israel's entire regional approach will have to change dramatically in the event that Egypt's regime is overthrown.

None of the scenarios under discussion are positive.

What has most confounded Israeli officials and commentators alike has not been the strength of the anti-regime protests, but the American response to them. Outside the far Left, commentators from all major newspapers, radio and television stations have variously characterized the US response to events in Egypt as irrational, irresponsible, catastrophic, stupid, blind, treacherous, and terrifying.

They have pointed out that the Obama administration's behavior - as well as that of many of its prominent conservative critics - is liable to have disastrous consequences for the US's other authoritarian Arab allies, for Israel and for the US itself.

The question most Israelis are asking is why are the Americans behaving so destructively? Why are President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton charting a course that will necessarily lead to the transformation of Egypt into the first Salafist Islamic theocracy? And why are conservative commentators and Republican politicians urging them to be even more outspoken in their support for the rioters in the streets?

Does the US not understand what will happen in the region as a result of its actions? Does the US really fail to understand what will happen to its strategic interests in the Middle East if the Muslim Brotherhood either forms the next regime or is the power behind the throne of the next regime in Cairo?

Distressingly, the answer is that indeed, the US has no idea what it is doing. The reason the world's only (quickly declining) superpower is riding blind is because its leaders are trapped between two irrational, narcissistic policy paradigms and they can't see their way past them.

The first paradigm is former president George W. Bush's democracy agenda and its concomitant support for open elections.

Bush supporters and former administration officials have spent the last month since the riots began in Tunisia crowing that events prove Bush's push for democratization in the Arab world is the correct approach.

The problem is that while Bush's diagnosis of the dangers of the democracy deficit in the Arab world was correct, his antidote for solving this problem was completely wrong.

Bush was right that tyranny breeds radicalism and instability and is therefore dangerous for the US.

But his belief that free elections would solve the problem of Arab radicalism and instability was completely wrong. At base, Bush's belief was based on a narcissistic view of Western values as universal.

When, due to US pressure, the Palestinians were given the opportunity to vote in open and free elections in 2006, they voted for Hamas and its totalitarian agenda. When due to US pressure, the Egyptians were given limited freedom to choose their legislators in 2005, where they could they elected the totalitarian Muslim Brotherhood to lead them.

The failure of his elections policy convinced Bush to end his support for elections in his last two years in office.

Frustratingly, Bush's push for elections was rarely criticized on its merits. Under the spell of the other policy paradigm captivating American foreign policy elites - anti-colonialism - Bush's leftist opponents never argued that the problem with his policy is that it falsely assumes that Western values are universal values. Blinded by their anti-Western dogma, they claimed that his bid for freedom was nothing more than a modern-day version of Christian missionary imperialism.

It is this anti-colonialist paradigm, with its foundational assumption that that the US has no right to criticize non-Westerners that has informed the Obama administration's foreign policy. It was the anti-colonialist paradigm that caused Obama not to support the pro-Western protesters seeking the overthrow of the Iranian regime in the wake of the stolen 2009 presidential elections.

As Obama put it at the time, "It's not productive, given the history of US-Iranian relations, to be seen as meddling, the US president meddling in the Iranian elections."

And it is this anti-colonialist paradigm that has guided Obama's courtship of the Syrian, Turkish and Iranian regimes and his unwillingness to lift a hand to help the March 14 movement in Lebanon.

MOREOVER, SINCE the paradigm claims that the non-Western world's grievances towards the West are legitimate, Obama's Middle East policy is based on the view that the best way to impact the Arab world is by joining its campaign against Israel. This was the central theme of Obama's speech before an audience dominated by Muslim Brotherhood members in Cairo in June 2009.

Like the pro-democracy paradigm, the anti-colonialist paradigm is narcissistic. Whereas Western democracy champions believe that all people are born with the same Western liberal democratic values, post-colonialists believe that non-Westerners are nothing more than victims of the West. They are not responsible for any of their own pathologies because they are not actors. Only Westerners (and Israelis) are actors. Non-Westerners are objects. And like all objects, they cannot be held responsible for anything they do because they are wholly controlled by forces beyond their control.

Anti-colonialists by definition must always support the most anti-Western forces as "authentic." In light of Mubarak's 30-year alliance with the US, it makes sense that Obama's instincts would place the US president on the side of the protesters.

SO THERE we have it. The US policy towards Egypt is dictated by the irrational narcissism of two opposing sides to a policy debate that has nothing to do with reality.

Add to that Obama's electoral concern about looking like he is on the right side of justice and we have a US policy that is wholly antithetical to US interests.

This presents a daunting, perhaps insurmountable challenge for the US's remaining authoritarian Arab allies. In Jordan and Saudi Arabia, until now restive publics have been fearful of opposing their leaders because the US supports them. Now that the US is abandoning its most important ally and siding with its worst enemies, the Hashemites and the Sauds don't look so powerful to their Arab streets. The same can be said for the Kuwaiti leadership and the pro-American political forces in Iraq.

As for Israel, America's behavior towards Egypt should put to rest the notion that Israel can make further territorial sacrifices in places like the Golan Heights and the Jordan Valley in exchange for US security guarantees. US behavior today - and the across-the-board nature of American rejection of Mubarak - is as clear a sign as one can find that US guarantees are not credible.

As Prof. Barry Rubin wrote this week, "There is no good policy for the United States regarding the uprising in Egypt but the Obama administration may be adopting something close to the worst option."

Unfortunately, given the cluelessness of the US foreign policy debate, this situation is only likely to grow worse.

 


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« Reply #86 on: February 01, 2011, 04:39:09 AM »
According to a Pew opinion survey of Egyptians from June 2010, 59 percent said they back Islamists. Only 27% said they back modernizers. Half of Egyptians support Hamas. Thirty percent support Hizbullah and 20% support al Qaida. Moreover, 95% of them would welcome Islamic influence over their politics. When this preference is translated into actual government policy, it is clear that the Islam they support is the al Qaida Salafist version.

Eighty two percent of Egyptians support executing adulterers by stoning, 77% support whipping and cutting the hands off thieves. 84% support executing any Muslim who changes his religion.


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« Reply #87 on: February 01, 2011, 05:25:07 AM »
Admin Official: Obama "not ruling out legitimacy" of Muslim Brotherhood for New Egypt Gov't
Monday, January 31, 2011 | Kristinn




An Obama administration official, speaking anonymously to the Washington Post, said the administration is open to the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood being in the government of Egypt that will likely replace the rule of Hosni Mubarak:

The official said that while the administration was concerned about "some elements" of the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood and other non-secular groups participating in the demonstrations, it was "not ruling out their legitimacy" and place in a future government.

Obama was aware that the Muslim Brotherhood and others were in the audience when he spoke of "a new beginning" in a 2009 speech in Cairo that was directed at the Islamic world, the official said. He cited a passage in the speech in which Obama said that "no system of government can or should be imposed by one nation on any other" and that "America respects the right of all peaceful and law-abiding voices to be heard around the world, even if we disagree with them."

The Post buried this unsettling revelation in an article about the administration charting a "delicate course to oust Mubarak."

Voice of America reported that at today's White House briefing, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said the administration had no contact with the Muslim Brotherhood:

Gibbs was also asked about the U.S. position on potential participation of the Muslim Brotherhood in any new governing structure, saying that the United States has had no contact with the group.

"We have as we have throughout the world, standards for that contact - that is adherence to the law, adherence to non-violence and a willingness to be part of a democratic process, but not use that democratic process to simply instill yourself into power," he said.

While the group professes to be non-violent, the Muslim Brotherhood is widely considered to be the father of international Islamic terrorism and is thought to be working to create a global Islamic caliphate.


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Re: Egypt is burning, Tunisia has been overthrown etc.
« Reply #88 on: February 01, 2011, 05:34:12 AM »
Muslim Brotherhood: ‘Prepare Egyptians for war with Israel' 
By YAAKOV LAPPIN
01/02/2011   

 
http://www.jpost.com/LandedPages/PrintArticle.aspx?id=206130


 
 
   
A leading member of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt told the Arabic-language Iranian news network Al-Alam on Monday that he would like to see the Egyptian people prepare for war against Israel, according to the Hebrew-language business newspaper Calcalist.

Muhammad Ghannem reportedly told Al- Alam that the Suez Canal should be closed immediately, and that the flow of gas from Egypt to Israel should cease “in order to bring about the downfall of the Mubarak regime.” He added that “the people should be prepared for war against Israel,” saying the world should understand that “the Egyptian people are prepared for anything to get rid of this regime.”

Ghannem praised Egyptian soldiers deployed by President Hosni Mubarak to Egyptian cities, saying they “would not kill their brothers.” He added that Washington was forced to abandon plans to help Mubarak stay in power after “seeing millions head for the streets.” 
   
 

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Re: Egypt is burning, Tunisia has been overthrown etc.
« Reply #89 on: February 01, 2011, 07:00:00 AM »
Between the wikileaks documents and Obama throwing every ally we have under the bus, we're on the fast track to having zero allies. After seeing how quickly Obama and the Europeans dumped Mubarak, who is going to trust either of them again?

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« Reply #90 on: February 01, 2011, 07:03:10 AM »
anyone who trusts  damn thing from obama, on anything whatsoever, is a complete moron.  Seriously, there is not one thing obama has EVER been truthful about.   



   

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« Reply #91 on: February 01, 2011, 07:12:43 AM »
Between the wikileaks documents and Obama throwing every ally we have under the bus, we're on the fast track to having zero allies. After seeing how quickly Obama and the Europeans dumped Mubarak, who is going to trust either of them again?

doesnt matter if they "trust" us.

They'll keep taking our 1.5 bil a year... and we'll keep being first in line in the Suez canal... no matter how they "feel" about us.

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« Reply #92 on: February 01, 2011, 07:39:11 AM »
doesnt matter if they "trust" us.

They'll keep taking our 1.5 bil a year... and we'll keep being first in line in the Suez canal... no matter how they "feel" about us.

Should the Muslim Brotherhood come to power it'll be debatable whether they keep taking our money and keep the Suez open. We once gave the Iranians a ton of shit until they were overthrown by the Mullahs. Interestingly enough the Mullahs and their Islamic dictatorship weren't interested in our money.

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« Reply #93 on: February 01, 2011, 07:49:06 AM »
doesnt matter if they "trust" us.

They'll keep taking our 1.5 bil a year... and we'll keep being first in line in the Suez canal... no matter how they "feel" about us.
shit is at risk way more than you are imagining.

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« Reply #94 on: February 01, 2011, 07:53:59 AM »
I dunno.  If I'm president, I tell the new guy... "We're still 1st in line at the canal... you're still gonna help out with ISR... or we'll be linking some attack to you in 5 years and we'll be pulling an afghanistan on your ass".

Hell, didn't the wiki papers show we're propping this guy up anyway?  He's been in NYc working for a thinktank or something for the last decade, suddenly he's there to save the egyptian people?  lol... he's a puppet.  meet the new guy, same as the last guy.

IMO, it's a non-issue.  We're working with both sides behind the scene, nothing happens over there without a USA stamp on it.  Egypt is full of US weapons, US money, US troops.  You think the new guy gives us the heave-ho?  LMAO... nope.  whatever he says in the press to get the job is just something to ignore.  He'll be a puppet.

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« Reply #95 on: February 01, 2011, 08:00:57 AM »
Oh brother. 

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« Reply #96 on: February 01, 2011, 08:03:20 AM »
I dunno.  If I'm president, I tell the new guy... "We're still 1st in line at the canal... you're still gonna help out with ISR... or we'll be linking some attack to you in 5 years and we'll be pulling an afghanistan on your ass".

Hell, didn't the wiki papers show we're propping this guy up anyway?  He's been in NYc working for a thinktank or something for the last decade, suddenly he's there to save the egyptian people?  lol... he's a puppet.  meet the new guy, same as the last guy.

IMO, it's a non-issue.  We're working with both sides behind the scene, nothing happens over there without a USA stamp on it.  Egypt is full of US weapons, US money, US troops.  You think the new guy gives us the heave-ho?  LMAO... nope.  whatever he says in the press to get the job is just something to ignore.  He'll be a puppet.

It's not about who we're propping up. And we were propping up one of the activists, not the Muslim Brotherhood. It's that this is creating the perfect opportunity for the Brotherhood to step in and seize power right out from under the feet of everyone. Who starts the revolt doesn't necessarily end up in power when the revolt is said and done, and I doubt this situation will be any different.

Of the 55 Islamic states, only 3 of them barely qualify as democracies. Why does anyone think Egypt is going to be the 4th?

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« Reply #97 on: February 01, 2011, 08:15:04 AM »
It won't, crazies are going to flood the area from all over to try to seize power and the well meaning kids and middle class people are going to get wrecked.

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« Reply #98 on: February 01, 2011, 08:25:02 AM »
It won't, crazies are going to flood the area from all over to try to seize power and the well meaning kids and middle class people are going to get wrecked.
I think that's probably true.

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« Reply #99 on: February 01, 2011, 09:18:38 AM »
I think that's probably true.

The Muslim Brotherhood is going to use the democratic process and whatever figurehead they can as a Trojan horse to gain power and implement Sharia, terrorism and to continue the conflict with Israel. They do not believe Israel should exist, they pretty much are Hamas in Gaza and they raise money for Hamas etc here in America. Go look up their teachings, words and thoughts...it's all there. They are not a moderate faction, not even close. I can't believe how some people in our govt. and media can simply plug their ears and put a blindfold on when discussing the current situation in Egypt....I was watching Farid Zakaria and he was sucking the Muslim Brotherhoods dicks, it was sad. He was pushing them as some moderate force for good that doesn't have any blood on its hands. It was funny hearing him say things like "Well, if they took power...uh, a potential downside would be women having fewer voices..." and other stuff that was just fucking stupid.  No mention of their "Kill Israel" stance, their support for terrorism, fund raising for terrorism in the U.S......nothing.

What a joke.