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So for simplicity sake you don't give a shit about the damage being done to the country as long as you can mock a few people? Glad we have real Americans like you around ::)

Mocking you guys is just a bonus to his being elected again.....

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Mocking you guys is just a bonus to his being elected again.....

So you would vote for Nero even as Rome burned so you can mock someone? No wonder we are in the shape we are with retards like you given the ability to vote.
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So you would vote for Nero even as Rome burned so you can mock someone? No wonder we are in the shape we are with retards like you given the ability to vote.

calm down Gloria.....learn to ease up a bit and take a joke

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Sure thing Daphne, problem is I don't find my country being ruined funny
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Sure thing Daphne, problem is I don't find my country being ruined funny

The country is being ruined not by Obama but by congress..they are the ones who appropriate and spend so much because they want to win re-election...they contol the purse strings....Obama can't buy toilet paper unless they approive the funds for it...


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Obama's missteps on Libya cement Gaddafi's advantage
www.washingtonpost.com ^ | March 11, 2011 | Stephen Rademaker




In diplomacy, as in medicine, the cardinal principle in any crisis is to first do no harm. The Obama administration's approach to Libya has violated this principle in at least two respects. Having made matters worse for Libya's democratic opposition, the administration now must be willing to reverse the damage it has done.

First, there's the arms embargo, imposed by the U.N. Security Council with strong U.S. support two weeks ago. Initially advertised as a measure that would weaken the Gaddafi regime by preventing it from acquiring additional weapons, the State Department this week revealed its view that the U.N. embargo also makes it illegal to provide defensive arms to the opposition.

An evenhanded arms embargo might make sense if the Libyan conflict were between two equally armed sides and we were indifferent to which side won. But the Gaddafi regime is infinitely better-armed than the rag-tag opposition that, having freed half the country, now faces a withering counterattack from the regime's artillery and combat aircraft. The Obama administration professes to want the opposition to prevail, but by prohibiting arms transfers to both sides, it has almost guaranteed that Moammar Gaddafi will win a drawn-out conflict. ....

The second Obama administration misstep was its support for the U.N. decision to give the International Criminal Court (ICC) jurisdiction to prosecute Gaddafi....he and his lieutenants are left with just two choices: surrender to international justice or fight it out in Tripoli. Clearly they have no interest in surrendering, so Libya is now locked into a civil war that will rage until one side wins. ....

Essentially, what the United Nations has done in Libya is deny Gaddafi any attractive alternative to fighting to the death with his opposition, while locking in Gaddafi's overwhelming military advantage in that fight.


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Obama is playing golf again today.  FAIL

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Niall Ferguson: The Best Case Scenario Is A Rerun Of The 1970s, With Obama In The Role Of Jimmy Carter
Gregory White | Mar. 14, 2011, 8:37 AM | 191 |  1

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Niall Ferguson spoke with CNBC this morning about the state of the global economy, the rise of China, and the chaos in the Middle East.

"At best case we're going to re-run the 1970s, only with Barack Obama instead of Jimmy Carter in the White House," he said.

More on his comments below:

0:25 If you look at the last 600 years, the big story was the rise of the west. But that's ending, and has been from the 1970s. Now with industrialization in Asia, it's happening quickly. And change and collapse in the west could happen very quickly.
1:45 This isn't a projection; China has become the biggest manufacturer in the world. This isn't like Japan. China has a big economy, big country, has discovered Western tech.
2:35 Reserve currency status is a lagging indicator. Look at Britain in the 1940s. There is an explosion of public debt in the U.S. (threat number 1, according to Ferguson). But reserve currencies can't switch overnight.
3:55 Very few of the ingredients are in place for a successful democracy in the Middle East. There's a combination for a civil war, not democracy. The chaos in the region is exactly what the radicals want. We're likely to first see civil wars, then Islamist regimes, then cross border wars.





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Niall Ferguson: The Best Case Scenario Is A Rerun Of The 1970s, With Obama In The Role Of Jimmy Carter
Gregory White | Mar. 14, 2011, 8:37 AM | 191 |  1

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Niall Ferguson spoke with CNBC this morning about the state of the global economy, the rise of China, and the chaos in the Middle East.

"At best case we're going to re-run the 1970s, only with Barack Obama instead of Jimmy Carter in the White House," he said.

More on his comments below:

0:25 If you look at the last 600 years, the big story was the rise of the west. But that's ending, and has been from the 1970s. Now with industrialization in Asia, it's happening quickly. And change and collapse in the west could happen very quickly.
1:45 This isn't a projection; China has become the biggest manufacturer in the world. This isn't like Japan. China has a big economy, big country, has discovered Western tech.
2:35 Reserve currency status is a lagging indicator. Look at Britain in the 1940s. There is an explosion of public debt in the U.S. (threat number 1, according to Ferguson). But reserve currencies can't switch overnight.
3:55 Very few of the ingredients are in place for a successful democracy in the Middle East. There's a combination for a civil war, not democracy. The chaos in the region is exactly what the radicals want. We're likely to first see civil wars, then Islamist regimes, then cross border wars.





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I'll give you the rebuttal although its a complete waste of time....you are so trapped by your own limited thinking that you can't see the other guys point of view...but since you want a rebuttal I will give you one...

1. I agree that China is doing well economically but lets not forget that they steal a lot of technology from us and from France, Britain, etc....plus they cheat when it comes to their currency which they purposely keep very low so so our goods cost more...  plus they use other unfair trade practices....is that Obama's fault???...they have been doing this for years under various presidents....Obama actually called them out on this when the chinese president came to visit...something NO OTHER PRESIDENT has done face to face..the chinese and other countries like Brazil and India are catching up to us, but we still will remain one of the top 2 or 3 economies for the foreseeable future...nothing wrong with that...no one can stay number one forever...


2. People compare us to Britain  and how they lost their empire but the U.S. is so much larger than Britain ever was....England is an Island...it is very difficult historically for Island nations like Britain and Japan to maintain empires....Our economy is vastly larger than Britain's ever was.....and our military is still the best in the world....and still feared by the world....the problem is our allies are not pulling their weight....for instance, look at Libya..all the Europeans talk a good game but NO ONE would step up militarily because they are cowards.....they wait for the U.S. to do all the dying for them..even though France and Italy are right next door to Libya....is that Obama's fault that the Europeans are cowardly and have an antiquated military which is incapable of fighting??? we simply cannot afford to send blood and treasure to protect the cowards in Europe any more...

3.  I agree.... few ingredients are present at the moment for democracy in the Middle East...the reason for these revolts are due to the rulers of these countries not helping their own people....Is this Obama's fault???....these regimes have been around since the early 1900's....through the administrations of many presidents....George Bush wanted democracy in the Middle East and felt that invading Iraq would begin the downfall of many of these regimes..he was right....now that there is democracy in Iraq..everyone wants it..Is this Obama's fault???...I am a Bush fan and supporter but this all started due to Bush's vision of democracy in the middle east.....Islamist regimes may pop up but thats democracy for you..sometimes the bad guys win...look at the Republican victory in the mid-term elections as an example..(haha)..and also look at Hamas...which is an election which Bush pushed for with the Palestinians..

4. Also I was watching Fareek Zacharia's show on CNN and Neil was a guest.....there were other smart guys on there who disagreed with Ferguson so he isn't exactly the last word on the subject..it all depends on who you want to believe...

there ya go..what more do you want from me????

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A promise to vote for Palin in the GOP primary.   :-*  :-*

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A promise to vote for Palin in the GOP primary.   :-*  :-*

then you are truly nuts...but go ahead...wasted votes like this one actually help Obama..thanks!!

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A promise to vote for Palin in the GOP primary.   :-*  :-*

there it is.  Enough people with that mentality and Obama wins again. 

YOU are the reason Obama won in 2008, 333386.

YOU (and your ilk) voted Romney over Paul in the primary - choosing a hepless phony lib with history of romneycare.

And you are encouraging others to vote for the candidate with the biggest obstacles to overcome to winning.  you're sabotaging the GOP's chances.

Why?  Do you secretly like to suffer, and keeping an Obama in office assures you are always the victim?

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there it is.  Enough people with that mentality and Obama wins again. 

YOU are the reason Obama won in 2008, 333386.

YOU (and your ilk) voted Romney over Paul in the primary - choosing a hepless phony lib with history of romneycare.

And you are encouraging others to vote for the candidate with the biggest obstacles to overcome to winning.  you're sabotaging the GOP's chances.

Why?  Do you secretly like to suffer, and keeping an Obama in office assures you are always the victim?


 ;D

I'm kidding 240 - geeez   


I think Madoff/Vanderslootcan win at this point.   Did you see Rasmussen today?    BO is sinking like the titanic again.     

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there it is.  Enough people with that mentality and Obama wins again. 

YOU are the reason Obama won in 2008, 333386.

YOU (and your ilk) voted Romney over Paul in the primary - choosing a hepless phony lib with history of romneycare.

And you are encouraging others to vote for the candidate with the biggest obstacles to overcome to winning.  you're sabotaging the GOP's chances.

Why?  Do you secretly like to suffer, and keeping an Obama in office assures you are always the victim?

hmmm....might be some truth to this...excellent point 240

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Caption: Obama ("It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!")
REUTERS via YAHOO! ^ | March 14, 2011


U.S. President Barack Obama signs a screen showing Duke Ellington during a visit to Kenmore Middle School in Arlington, Virginia March 14, 2011. Obama wrote, "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!"', a reference to a Duke Ellington composition. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque


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Tel Aviv Journal: Obama’s Scandalous Approach to the Middle East
Martin Peretz
March 15, 2011 | 12:00 am




.What is now clear is that the only help Barack Obama was willing to give to the Arabs was his coldness to the Jewish nation. Or, and I want to be frank, his hostile indifference to Israel. It has been a not quite sub rosa sub-theme of his presidency since the beginning. He had not the slightest idea or maybe couldn’t care less that Zion and Zionism meant the retrieval of the Jews from a harrowing if remarkable history. The president is of the generation—or perhaps the temperament—that knows not the “long is the road” Hebrew story of national philosophical rebirth in the context of 1848, the saga of the pogroms, the disenchantment with bourgeois liberalism, the stubborn persistence of blood libels and its cumulative consequence in the unrivaled catastrophe of the Nazi ghettoes and concentration camps after which, not miraculously but conscientiously, a dispersed community was reborn as a commonwealth and as a state. Unlike the Palestinian pretense, it did not have even to be reimagined, save for its old scriptural language which is now at once practical and poetic. (The literate high Arabic language cutting across cultures, as prosaic Arabic does not, also has its own beauties, both tranquil and heroic, even to someone who reads it only in translation.)

Now, please do not be troubled by my insistent questioning of the authenticity of “the Palestinian nation.” It doesn’t mean that Israel should continue to hold much of the West Bank, and it does not mean that the present voices of the Palestinians are inauthentic either. But they happen to reach for different ends. Most states in the world (and in the United Nations) are not properly nation states, by which I mean that they are mostly accretions of tribal groups—which does not, of course, necessarily translate into “primitive”—or clans, the loyalties of which are to their specific own rather than to the wider rhetorical assemblages that are represented in world politics. Perhaps it is pointless to cavil against an international system when what strains it most is the hostility within rather than among its constituent parts. Zimbabwe and “Democratic” Congo, for example. Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Bahrain, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, even Jordan: Antagonistic visions animate each of these polities. Like Palestine. Give it a decade or two, and the same will be said for Saudi Arabia. Already the tiny wealthy but all less-wealthy-than-they-were-two-years-ago emirates cannot count their own native-born as a majority and that is because they are in most of them a small minority. It’s a curious point: But the 22-member Arab League and the 57-member Organization of the Islamic Conference usually vote as one. It’s within the individual states and statelets where the rancor expressed is truly felt.

What is curious about Obama’s infatuation with Arab societies (and with non-Arab Muslim societies, too) is that he knows just about nothing about them. And I don’t just mean their histories or theology. What’s clear is that the president grasps pretty-close-to-zero about the actualities of these states, their economic and social realities, the stratifications by tribe and sex, the race between literacy and population growth, the synchrony of tradition with bureaucracy, the stultification of education, the militarization of these polities, their abhorrence of liberal ideas. And the fact is that Obama is neither fast-spirited nor supple. He certainly was blind-sided by the turbulence and torment that has wracked the region over more than two months now. Why could he not see the new amidst the crumbling old? And why was he also not liberated a bit from the old order to which he had mysteriously attached himself?

The fact is that Obama is a victim of a certain sort of “orientalism” transmitted to him by his friend Rashid Khalidi carrying the message of Edward Said. Except that this form of the dogma, now hopefully on its last legs in the academy, does not idealize the vision of the imperials. It idealizes whatever Arab reality happens to have survived western imperialism. Among them is the standing of the hijab or burqa. This is part of the civilizational conflict in the world of Islam and, as I have pointed out at least twice, Obama has spoken up for the looking-backwards end of the dispute. Why should he not, in Cairo and at the White House, have defended the modernizers instead? This would have put him on the side of the future, though if he didn’t want to intrude on an internal Muslim struggle he could have simply shut up. But no. This president thinks he speaks with authority on any topics he chooses to address.

Alright, so Obama patters on about Koranic theology or whispers arcane words, throaty or mellifluous, in Arabic. Wow! He is a vernacular panderer to one group and then another, including the Jews. As anybody current with the conflicts in Arab and Islamic culture understands, the place of memorization in the education of the young is right there at the top. Anybody who has read the various volumes of the United Nations Arab Development Report also understands why this is so. Well, the horrendous prevalence of illiteracy in these countries, where the Prophet’s scripture is hammered into the heads of boys (and now sometimes girls, too), testifies to the deformity of the entire system. Being “progressives,” Barack and Michelle are more than likely to disapprove of rote learning in American schools. But since the president takes each and every opportunity he can to fawn over antiquarian Islam he has also made himself heard on this vexing issue of teaching and knowing.

We now know from many scholars, and especially Dan Diner in his book Lost in the Sacred: Why the Muslim World Stood Still,about which I’ve written several times, that it is not Islam per sebut the very restraints on print and the idolization of language, among other factors, that are responsible for the benighted state of intellectual achievement in that orbit. A brand new book by Duke economic historian Timor Kuran, The Long Divergence: How Islamic Law Held Back the Middle East, which I half-read when I was home in Cambridge a fortnight ago, argues that the rules of the religious structure inhibited virtually to a standstill the development of economic and social forces in the region. Kuran ends on an optimistic note and it is based on the near-collapse of the societies without oil and the distorted growth of those with oil. The thesis (and I mean no disrespect): It’s so bad that it has to get better. Of course, it is now mostly about education, which means openness to the new. Society must sign the pledge.

Actually, then, the most shocking thing Obama ever said in my view had little intrinsic or concrete implications for U.S. foreign policy. But it was an endorsement of the awful vocation of memorization of text. He was announcing the appointment of Rashad Hussain, an apparently quite talented student of Middle Eastern affairs, to be the president’s envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference. Now, the truth is that the Conference ain’t really much of anything. But it is, by the administration’s own admission, an instrument of its blah-blah diplomacy.

Here is the beginning of the “White House Blog” item of March 7, 2010, posted by Pradeep Ramamurthy, senior director for Global Engagement at the National Security Council:

During his speech in Cairo on June 4, 2009, the President articulated a vision for a New Beginning with Muslims around the world -- one based on mutual respect and the pursuit of partnerships in areas of mutual interest.  Around the world, from Rabat to Jakarta, the United States is engaging Muslim communities around the world and building mutually beneficial partnerships that expand opportunity.  As part of our commitment to dialogue, our embassies have held roundtables with thousands of students, civil society leaders and entrepreneurs, among others, and senior officials like Secretary Clinton have held televised townhalls.

Over the past nine months, the Administration has been delivering on the specific commitments the President made in his speech – from appointing science envoys, creating a Technology and Innovation Fund, and expanding exchanges to hosting a Summit on Entrepreneurship in April.  But, the U.S. Government has done far more than deliver the specific commitments from President Obama's speech.  For example, while we have partnered with the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) to eradicate polio, we also worked with Saudi Arabia to prevent the spread of H1N1 influenza during hajj.

The speech in Cairo expressed an overarching vision for our engagement.  To help pursue that vision, the President recently appointed Rashad Hussain to be his Special Envoy to the OIC.  Rashad has played an important role in developing the New Beginning we seek with Muslim communities around the world.  In his new position, he will continue to play a key role in expanding our engagement with Muslims around the world.

And the president added to Hussain’s credentials in his own statement by announcing that his designee was also “a hafiz (memorization student) of the Quaran,” as if this were a high distinction rather than a commonplace. After all, millions and millions of clever boys, many of them actually illiterate and without understanding any of the Arabic in which the holy book is written, have committed the text to their heads. Maybe I am being persnickety in pointing out these small details of Obama’s presentation. But they are telling.

Especially in contrast with his palsied response to the historic revolution of the Arabs that for a few weeks seemed unstoppable. Let’s face it: Obama is petrified by the unprecedented newness emerging in the desert. In Tunisia and Egypt the crowd moved quickly against the regime which meant at least that the old regime would be gone. What will happen next is anyone’s guess, except for American intelligence which has finally lost its credentials for both analysis and prophecy. It was probably the CIA that put us on the side of Hosni Mubarak in the early days of the Tahrir Square manifestations. The president was quiet and then was just sheer bluster, not decisive and not imaginative either. He was not a man of history. Except to move it backwards.

If any power has allowed Muammar Qaddafi, tyrant and psychotic, to remain in power it is the clinical allergy to power of our president. He is weak-willed and weak-kneed. Here, after all, was a brave people who’d been brutalized for more than four decades, been run by gangsters and still had the clarity of the lure of liberty. They’d also been unlucky in their northern neighbors across the Mediterranean, Italy and France, who had maintained the vocation of imperials for many decades. Despite this and perhaps because of it Paris and Rome have now dumped their long-time partner in crimes against humanity. Of course, Washington has finally proclaimed Tripoli an illegitimate government. As if a statement without practical action would have any real resonance.

Qaddafi possesses the power of any dictator, men in arms who will follow him and behave brutally. They are waging a war against the rebels but also against the innocent. Bombing from the air without targets to create chaos and dread. Pace Robert Gates, a no-fly zone would have imperiled nothing except the colonel’s air force.

But the American refusal to recognize the provisional government in Benghazi is the true betrayal of the Arab revolution, of an Arab people and of Arab hope. For were the president to announce that the U.S. sees the revolutionaries and rebels as the legitimate representatives of their long betrayed people, some $30 billion in assets in our country would be theirs. Perhaps more. This added to the other enormous holdings of the Libyan people in French, Italian, and British banks could make that people free.

Martin Peretz is the editor-in-chief emeritus of The New Republic.

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This guy is the biggest foreign policy disaster in decades. If there's a right way and a wrong way you can be certain he'll pick the wrong way.


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This guy is the biggest foreign policy disaster in decades. If there's a right way and a wrong way you can be certain he'll pick the wrong way.



what should he have done in your great opinion?

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Obama the invisible
By JOHN PODHORETZ


Last Updated: 3:50 AM, March 16, 2011
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Where is the president? The world is beset. Moammar Khadafy is moving relentlessly to crush the Libyan revolt that once promised the overthrow of one of the world's most despicable regimes.

So where is the president?

Japan may be on the verge of a disaster that dwarfs any we have yet seen. A self-governing nation like the United States needs its leader to take full measure of his position at times of crises when the path forward is no longer clear.

This is not a time for leadership; this is the time for leadership.

So where is Barack Obama?

The moment demands that he rise to the challenge of showing America and the world that he is taking the reins. How leaders act in times of unanticipated crisis, in which they do not have a formulated game plan and must instead navigate in treacherous waters, defines them.

Obama is defining himself in a way that will destroy him.

It is not merely that he isn't rising to the challenge. He is avoiding the challenge. He is Bartleby the President. He would prefer not to.

He has access to a microphone 24 hours a day, seven days a week. If he tells the broadcast networks in the middle of the day that he has a major address to deliver on an unprecedented world situation, they will cancel their programming for him.

And yet, since Friday and a press conference in which he managed to leave the American position on Libya more muddled than it was before, we have not heard his voice. Except in a radio address -- he talked about education legislation.

And he appeared at a fund-raiser in DC. And sat down with ESPN to reveal his NCAA picks.

He cannot go on like this. Niall Ferguson, the very pessimis tic economic his torian, wrote the other day that the best we can now hope for is that Obama leaves the country in the same kind of shape that Jimmy Carter left it in.

That doesn't do Obama justice. Despite how disastrously he has handled the crises of the past two months, he can still turn his presidency around on a dime.

For Obama to save himself, he should be thinking about the example of an unlikely Republican predecessor: Richard Nixon.

The multifarious crises the president now faces are eerily similar to the kinds of calamities that greeted Richard Nixon in his first term from 1969-1972. Then, as now, the world was on fire. Wars erupted between China and the Soviet Union, India and Pakistan, even El Salvador and Honduras.

Jordan was nearly taken over from within by the Palestine Liberation Organization. There were humanitarian disasters in Biafra (the result of civil war), Bangladesh (due to flooding) and Nicaragua (deadly earthquake).

There was more, much more -- including a war he inherited in Vietnam, just as Obama has the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. You get the point.

Nixon in 1968, unlike Obama 2008, was elected as a minority president with only 43 percent of the vote. Yet, in 1972, he won what, in some measures, was the most lopsided election in American history with 61 percent.

Nixon achieved it, in large measure, because he appeared to be a serious man grappling in deadly earnest with the serious problems presented to him by a world careening out of control.

He demonstrated high competency when it came to matters on the world stage. He and his team (primarily Henry Kissinger) developed coherent policies and strategies for coping with the world. There was no question, to friend or foe, that he was fully engaged, paying attention, deeply involved.

Nixon was an awful president in many ways, including in some of his foreign-policy choices. But he left no doubt that foreign policy and America's leadership in the world outside its borders was of paramount importance to him.

All this had the effect of elevating Nixon during his time in office, so that when it came to running against George McGovern in 1972, Nixon seemed like a Titan and McGovern a pipsqueak.

How Nixon conducted himself in office in times of crises made possible his triumphant re-election. Right now, how Obama is conducting himself in a time of crisis is having the opposite effect.

He began his presidency as a potential colossus -- but if he doesn't change, he will finish it as a pipsqueak. Pipsqueaks don't win second terms.

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Young Leaders of Egypt's Revolt Snub Clinton in Cairo
March 15, 2011 1:17 PM

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ABC News' Kirit Radia and Alex Marquardt report:

A coalition of six youth groups that emerged from Egypt’s revolution last month has refused to meet with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who arrived in Cairo earlier today, in protest of the United States’ strong support for former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak who was ousted by the uprising.

“There was an invitation for members of the coalition to meet Secretary of State Hillary Clinton but based on her negative position from the beginning of the revolution and the position of the US administration in the Middle East, we reject this invitation,” the January 25 Revolution Youth Coalition said in a statement posted on its Facebook page.

A spokesman for Clinton had no immediate response to the snub. Another State Department official, who would not speak for attribution, confirmed such a meeting had been slated for Tuesday and noted that she still plans to meet with members of civil society and transitional government officials during her visit, during which she will urge Egyptians to continue on the path towards democracy.

Mubarak was one of the United States’ strongest allies in the Middle East over successive American administrations. He enjoyed a cozy relationship with top US leaders, which courted Egypt with massive military aid packages as thanks in large part for its support for Israel.

“I really consider President and Mrs. Mubarak to be friends of my family. So I hope to see him often here in Egypt and in the United States,” Secretary Clinton told the Arab language satellite channel al Arabiya during a 2009 interview.

As the revolt strengthened in the streets of Cairo, Clinton was perceived as slow to recognize the strength of the protest movement.

“Our assessment is that the Egyptian government is stable and is looking for ways to respond to the legitimate needs and interests of the Egyptian people,” Clinton told reporters when first asked about the unrest on January 25.

In a separate statement provided to an Egyptian newspaper the youth group said “the US administration took Egypt’s revolution lightly and supported the old regime while Egyptian blood was being spilled.”

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Andreisadouche,KC, and all he far left morons proven WRONG once again.   


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 Brotherhood the victor in Egyptian referendum
American Thinker ^ | March 21, 2011 | Rick Moran




March 21, 2011 Brotherhood the victor in Egyptian referendum

Rick Moran

A referendum in Egypt on changes to the constitution brought a record turnout to the polls and a victory for both the Muslim Brotherhood and deposed president Hosni Mubarak's political party. The referendum carried by a 77-23 margin and will bring on quick elections for parliament in June and a presidential election in August.

The secularists were routed.

New York Times:

The Muslim Brotherhood and remnant elements of the National Democratic Party, which dominated Egyptian politics for decades, were the main supporters of the referendum. They argued the election timetable would insure a swift return to civilian rule.

Members of the liberal wing of Egyptian politics mostly opposed the measure, saying they lacked time to organize into effective political organizations. They said early elections will benefit the Brotherhood and the old ruling party, which they warned would seek to write a constitution that centralizes power much like the old one.

Voters were asked to either accept or reject eight constitutional amendments as a whole - all of them designed to establish the foundations for upcoming elections. Most addressed some of the worst excesses of previous years - limiting the president to two four-year terms, for example, to avoid another president staying in office as long as Mr. Mubarak. The amendments were announced on Feb. 25 after virtually no public discussion by an 11-member committee of experts chosen by the military.

"It is very, very disappointing," said Hani Shukrallah, who is active in a new liberal political party and is the editor of Ahram Online, a news Website.

He and many other opponents of the referendum said religious organizations had spread false rumors, suggesting that voting against the referendum would threaten Article 2 of the constitution, which cites Islamic law as the main basis for Egyptian law.

"I saw one sign that said, ‘If you vote no you are a follower of America and Baradei and if you vote yes you are a follower of God,'" he said. "The idea is that Muslims will vote yes and Copts and atheists will vote no."

No word yet from the Obama administration who are probably the only people in America surprised at this outcome. The Brotherhood flexed their muscles and showed just how much influence they have. The small group of liberals, overwhelmed by the Islamists, better get organized in a hurry or the worst case scenario involving Egypt will come to pass.


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Secret shame of Egypt's army: Women protesters were forced to have 'virginity checks' after being arrested in Tahrir Square
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 10:10 AM on 24th March 2011

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Women arrested by the Egyptian police during protests in Cairo's Tahrir Square were subjected to forced 'virginity tests', according to Amnesty International.
Eighteen demonstrators were detained after army officers cleared the square on March 9 at the end of weeks of protest.


Amnesty today said that the women had been beaten, given electric shocks and then subjected to strip searches while being photographed by male soldiers.
They were then given 'virginity checks' and threatened with prostitution charges if medics ruled they had had sex, according to the charity.
 

Detained: Eighteen women protesters were detained in Cairo's Tahrir Square and then subjected to horrific treatment, according to Amnesty International. There is no suggestion that any of the women in this photograph were arrested


Salwa Hosseini, 20, said she had been arrested and taken to a military prison in Heikstep where she was forced to strip and then searched by a female guard.
She told the charity a number of male soldiers were watching through two open doors and a window and it was at that point they took photographs.
Miss Hosseini then went on to describe 'virginity tests' being carried out by a man in a white coat.

She claims the women were threatened with charges if they were found not to be virgins.

Meanwhile Rasha Azeb, a female journalist who arrested in Tahrir Square at the same time, claims that she was handcuffed and beaten by security forces.


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She described being taken to a building within the Cairo Musuem complex where she could witnessed other women being tortured with electric shocks to the chest and legs.

Miss Azeb was released after several hours along with a number of male journalists. The other women were sent to Heikstep.

The group finally faced a military court on March 11 and were released on March 13.
Miss Hosseini   was covicted of disorderly conduct,  destroying private and public property, obstructing traffic and carrying weapons.

Amnesty has called for the Egyptian authorities to hold a full investigation into the alleged abuse.

 Mass protest: There were thousands of women who joined the protests which eventually ousted the Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak

A spokesman for the human rights organisation said that the actions were 'utterly unacceptable.'
'The purpose is to degrade women because they are women,' he said. 'All women of the medical profession must refuse to take part in such so-called "tests."'
The spokesman also said that one woman who told the military she was a virgin and then failed the 'test' was beaten and given electric shocks.
'Women and girls must be able to express their views on the future of Egypt and protest against the government without being detained, tortured, or subjected to profoundly degrading and discriminatory treatment,' he added.
'The army officers tried to further humiliate the women by allowing men to watch and photograph what was happening, with the implicit threat that the women could be at further risk of harm if the photographs were made public.
'The Egyptian authorities must halt the shocking and degrading treatment of women protesters. Women fully participated in bringing change in Egypt and should not be punished for their activism.
'All security and army forces must be clearly instructed that torture and other ill-treatment, including forced "virginity tests", will no longer be tolerated, and will be fully investigated.
'Those found responsible for such acts must be brought to justice and the courageous women who denounced such abuses be protected from reprisals.'

Testimonies of other women detained at the same time collected by the El Nadeem Center for Rehabilitation of Victims of Violence are consistent with Rasha Azeb and Salwa Hosseini’s accounts of beatings, electrocution and ‘virginity tests’.
Former GMTV correspondent Lara Logan was treated in hospital for six days after being sexually assaulted in Tahrir Square while covering the demonstrations.

Now a reporter for American network CBS, she was attacked by a mob of 200 after being separated from security personnel.



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Egypt: Cabinet's sweeping ban on strikes and protests draws condemnation
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(New York) - The Egyptian cabinet's announcement on March 24, 2011, of a new law banning strikes and demonstrations that impede the work of public institutions violates international law protections for free assembly and should be reversed immediately, Human Rights Watch said today.

The cabinet's claims that this law is an exceptional measure under the country's emergency law, which is still in effect, is a reminder of the need to revoke the emergency law immediately, Human Rights Watch said. An end to the state of emergency was one of the primary demands of the protesters who gathered in Tahrir Square.

"This virtually blanket ban on strikes and demonstrations is a betrayal of the demands of Tahrir protesters for a free Egypt, and a slap in the face of the families whose loved ones died protesting for freedom," said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East and North Africa director at Human Rights Watch. "Any genuine transition toward democracy must be based on respect for the basic rights of the people, including their right to demonstrate."

In the minutes of its third meeting, on March 24, published on its official website, the Egyptian cabinet announced the law, which criminalizes and imposes financial penalties for strikes and demonstrations, and said that it had sent the law to the Supreme Military Council for ratification. The new law provides for punishment "with imprisonment or a fine of not less than 50,000 Egyptian pounds (US$8,400), and not more than 100,000 Egyptian pounds ($16,806) for all those who during the state of emergency call for demonstrations, strikes, sit-ins, or gatherings, or participate in any of the above, leading to the impediment or the obstruction of any of the state institutions or public authorities from performing their role."

The law also penalizes incitement, calls, writings, or any other public advertisements for a protest or strike with imprisonment, and a fine of not less than 30,000 Egyptian pounds ($5,040) and not more than 50,000 Egyptian pounds ($8,400). It provides for imprisonment of not less than one year for the use of violence during a protest or strike, or if the protest or strike results in any destruction of property, "harm to national unity, societal peace or public order," or "harm to public funds, buildings or public or private property."

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Egypt: Arab 'Democracy' Gives Way To A New Islamist State
American Thinker ^ | March 26, 2011 | Rob Miller

Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 3:32:27 AM by Rashputin

March 26, 2011 Egypt: Arab 'Democracy' Gives Way To A New Islamist State

Rob Miller



Remember when the pundits, columnists and the newsrooms in the dinosaur media were practically jumping out of their shoes touting the Egyptian 'pro-democracy' movement? How wonderful it all was, and how Egypt was going to be the new liberal paradise in the Arab world? How sagacious and wise Obama was for encouraging it all and dumping Mubarak so quickly?

Well, it appears that some second thoughts and some serious walking back are in order as reality rears its ugly head.

They've finally noticed that the secular unemployed and underemployed twitter addicts and students in Cairo aren't the ones who will be running the new Egypt...it will be the military in partnership with the Ikhwan, the Muslim Brotherhood.

"We are all worried," said Amr Koura, 55, a television producer, reflecting the opinions of the secular minority. "The young people have no control of the revolution anymore. It was evident in the last few weeks when you saw a lot of bearded people taking charge. The youth are gone."

In other words, something more along the lines of Iran, just as I predicted.

And the 'youth' will go along with it, as will the military...just as they did in Iran.

Whaddya know about that?

The folly of the whitewashing of the 'secular' Muslim Brotherhood by the Obama Administration and people like their shills at the Times is about to become all too plain.

The Egyptians, urged on by their imams and the Ikhwan turned out in record numbers to vote for early elections that favor the Brotherhood, not the nascent 'liberal' movements. And it is the new Brotherhood dominated parliament that will revamp Egypt's laws and create a new Islamic Republic that will be absolutely sharia-licious.

The rabid response Ikhwan leader Yusef Qaradawi received when he returned to Egypt should have been one clue to the boys and girls at Parvda-on-the Hudson. So was Lara Logan's gang rape while the crowd screamed "Jew! Jew!"

Islam and the western notion of freedom and democracy don't mix, for the most part.

I'm also going to make another prediction, one that seems quite obvious to me. The Obama Administration's policies in Egypt and the Middle East are almost certain to lead to a new war in the region between Israel and the genocidal Hamas, with a good chance of Hezbollah joining in and Egypt participating, at least tacitly and perhaps overtly.

Mubarak was no friend of Israel, but after seeing the Muslim Brotherhood murder his predecessor Anwar Sadat, he realized that they were a threat to his regime and made efforts to suppress them at home and keep Iranian arms out of the hands of Hamas, the Ikhwan branch in Gaza.

The new Egyptian regime is going to be much more sympathetic to Hamas and isn't likely to make any such efforts, even if they elect to go through the motions of observing the Israel-Egypt peace treaty to keep that fat $2 billion US subsidy coming in. As soon as Hamas feels it's ready, we'll see another war against the Jews.

Since Hezbollah now owns Lebanon and is an Iranian proxy like Hamas, they will almost certainly join in. And we could actually see a scenario where Egyptian popular opinion and religious fervor has the new regime putting their US trained and armed military into the mix as well.



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