Boehner: Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly...3333 commits suicide!

[Soul Crusher]

IRAN???...they were caught by surprise just like the rest of us in the world....Iran doesn't have the influence or reach to coordinate all of these multiple uprisings occuring at the same time....the Arabs themselves FINALLY woke up and realized it was their own leaders who are the enemy..not the U.S. or Israel.....all of these uprisings actually scare Iran because it could spread to them again as well.....your delusional thinking is amazing!!!...what is going on in that head of yours???..you have got to donate your brain to science so we can see what a delusional schizophrenic is and how maybe we can find a cure!

Serious question - do you read? 

[andreisdaman]

What exactly did he do to bring about democracies in these countries? Just because he was president of the USA during the political upheavals in those countries doesn't automatically earn him any credit. What foreign diplomacies did he use or put into effect that brought about such change?

we forget Obama's famous speech in Egypt where he said that democracy and reform must occur in  order to meet the aspirations of the arab people...he also spoke out against terorrism and radical Islam..NO OTHER AMERICAN PRESIDENT HAD EVER DONE SO ON ARAB SOIL....CALLING FOR REFORM....change begins with the willingness to speak out and confront the issue..just as Ronald Reagan did when he confronted and spoke out against the soviets....Obama did the same thing...but of course since you don't have critical thinking skills, you won't see it or acknowledge it

[Fury]

What exactly did he do to bring about democracies in these countries? Just because he was president of the USA during the political upheavals in those countries doesn't automatically earn him any credit. What foreign diplomacies did he use or put into effect that brought about such change?

Andre already alluded to Obama being the reason Mubarak is out. When in reality Obama couldn't even get Mubarak to take his phone call.

Serious question - do you read?  

Only what Obama says. He's pretty clueless.

we forget Obama's famous speech in Egypt where he said that democracy and reform must occur in  order to meet the aspirations of the arab people...he also spoke out against terorrism and radical Islam..NO OTHER AMERICAN PRESIDENT HAD EVER DONE SO ON ARAB SOIL....CALLING FOR REFORM....change begins with the willingness to speak out and confront the issue..just as Ronald Reagan did when he confronted and spoke out against the soviets....Obama did the same thing...but of course since you don't have critical thinking skills, you won't see it or acknowledge it

His approval rating with Egyptians has monumentally tanked since that speech. It had nothing whatsoever to do with these uprisings. The catalyst was the self-immolation in Tunisia, not your GodKing.

Constant flip-flopping = job well done!

You might be the worst Obama-drone yet. Still waiting for you to refute Ferguson, too.

[andreisdaman]

Serious question - do you read? 

I hope you asked this question while standing in front of a mirror

[Soul Crusher]

we forget Obama's famous speech in Egypt where he said that democracy and reform must occur in  order to meet the aspirations of the arab people...he also spoke out against terorrism and radical Islam..NO OTHER AMERICAN PRESIDENT HAD EVER DONE SO ON ARAB SOIL....CALLING FOR REFORM....change begins with the willingness to speak out and confront the issue..just as Ronald Reagan did when he confronted and spoke out against the soviets....Obama did the same thing...but of course since you don't have critical thinking skills, you won't see it or acknowledge it

WWWWTTTFFFF ? ? ? 

Cairo speech?  Damn you are blind.   And please - Reagan?  Do you think Reagan's sole speech was his sole move on tackling communism?  Seriously?     

[andreisdaman]

Andre already alluded to Obama being the reason Mubarak is out. When in reality Obama couldn't even get Mubarak to take his phone call.

Only what Obama says. He's pretty clueless.

the reality is Mubarak left and did not fight because he knew Obama was not behind him....you believe what facts you want to believe....its funny you believe that Mubarak would not take Obama's cal but won't believe that Obama pushed MubaraK OUT...AGAIN...YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR OWN REALITY

[Fury]

WWWWTTTFFFF ? ? ?  

Cairo speech?  Damn you are blind.   And please - Reagan?  Do you think Reagan's sole speech was his sole move on tackling communism?  Seriously?    

Flip-flopping up to 2x a day every day for a week = consistent, powerful leadership.  

the reality is Mubarak left and did not fight because he knew Obama was not behind him....you believe what facts you want to believe....its funny you believe that Mubarak would not take Obama's cal but won't believe that Obama pushed MubaraK OUT...AGAIN...YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR OWN REALITY

Hahahaha, what a stupid fuck. Believe your own reality...as convoluted, fantastical and conjured as it is.

The one and only thing Obama accomplished with Egypt was showing how woefully inexperienced he and everyone else in his administration is.

[andreisdaman]

WWWWTTTFFFF ? ? ? 

Cairo speech?  Damn you are blind.   And please - Reagan?  Do you think Reagan's sole speech was his sole move on tackling communism?  Seriously?     

and do you think Obama's speech was HIS sole move?....you believe only what you want to bel believe/.....Obama has ben kicking the asses of militants with his increased drone bombings and support for democratic groups in Arab countries....

but of course you won't believe that....
COME ON!

[Fury]

You keep going on about backroom dealings and what not yet you haven't given a single example. Couple that with your refusal to actually refute Ferguson's clip only shows that you don't know shit and are merely regurgitating the same talking points the morons on MSNBC have been spouting. 

[dario73]

we forget Obama's famous speech in Egypt where he said that democracy and reform must occur in  order to meet the aspirations of the arab people...he also spoke out against terorrism and radical Islam..NO OTHER AMERICAN PRESIDENT HAD EVER DONE SO ON ARAB SOIL....CALLING FOR REFORM....change begins with the willingness to speak out and confront the issue..just as Ronald Reagan did when he confronted and spoke out against the soviets....Obama did the same thing...but of course since you don't have critical thinking skills, you won't see it or acknowledge it

Hahahaah!!!

So he repeated what Bush stated years prior, but because he did it on ARAB SOIL somehow that is more POWERFUL and effective.

Ronald Reagan didn't just speak out against the soviets. He outspend them into oblivion. See how that works? A president can say all he wants, but if he doesn't take any action to cause about change then it doesn't matter what he says. By your own dumb logic, BUSH deserves as much credit as Obama.

You did not answer my question. What foreign diplomacy did he use or put into effect that brought about such change? So much for your critical thinking skills.

Epic fishing for something positive in the most incompetent administration ever.

[Fury]

Hahahaah!!!

So he repeated what Bush stated years prior, but because he did it on ARAB SOIL somehow that is more POWERFUL and effective.

Ronald Reagan didn't just speak out the soviets. He outspend them into oblivion. See how that works? A president can say all he wants, but if he doesn't take any action to cause about change then it doesn't matter what he says. By your own dumb logic, BUSH deserves as much credit as Obama.

You did not answere my question. What foreign diplomacy did he use or put into effect that brought about such change? So much for your critical thinking skills.

Epic fishing for something positive in the most incompetent administration ever.

I've been asking him to answer my questions for days now and he refuses to. He just responds with, "Well, Obama is doing backroom dealings and you're a fool for not thinking he's working in the shadows". Of course, he can't provide a single example. Most likely because MSNBC hasn't fed him any examples to use. Typical Obama drone.

[dario73]

Andre already alluded to Obama being the reason Mubarak is out. When in reality Obama couldn't even get Mubarak to take his phone call.

Only what Obama says. He's pretty clueless.

His approval rating with Egyptians has monumentally tanked since that speech. It had nothing whatsoever to do with these uprisings. The catalyst was the self-immolation in Tunisia, not your GodKing.

Constant flip-flopping = job well done!

You might be the worst Obama-drone yet. Still waiting for you to refute Ferguson, too.

x1000

[Soul Crusher]

Obama didnt handle shit.  Please, you fools are desperate to latch on to anything, just anything, to make this collosal failure look good. 

Every single thing this faux messiah has touched has gotten far worse. 

BUMP 

[Soul Crusher]

Iranian Vessels Which Crossed Suez Canal Carry "Advanced Hezbollah Weapons" -- Israel
KUNA ^ | February 23, 2011

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The two Iranian naval ships which crossed the Suez Canal to the Mediterranean Tuesday morning are carrying "advanced Hezbollah weapons," Maariv Israeli paper reported on Wednesday, citing sources.

The sources told the paper, "Estimates indicate the two ships are carrying missiles of different range, rifles, ammunition, and night-vision gear... The voyage of the two ships is an Iranian attempt to go around the arms embargo on Hezbollah."

The paper also said that it is believed the voyage is an attempt on the part of the Iranians to "test the waters" with and gauge the responses of the Egyptian Supreme Military Council and its stance towards Tehran.


(Excerpt) Read more at kuna.net.kw ...

[andreisdaman]

I've been asking him to answer my questions for days now and he refuses to. He just responds with, "Well, Obama is doing backroom dealings and you're a fool for not thinking he's working in the shadows". Of course, he can't provide a single example. Most likely because MSNBC hasn't fed him any examples to use. Typical Obama drone.

I already told you why I don't answer questions from you or bring evidence...why argue with myself?....you won't believe the evidence anyway and will just stick to your point and continjue on and on...so why bother?..guys like you and 3333 don't really care about the truth//you only want to further your agenda so this is not really a debate...I come here to put forth my opinion just as you do.....I go to other forums for actual debate where there is actual give and take

sorry...but thats how it really is

[andreisdaman]

I've been asking him to answer my questions for days now and he refuses to. He just responds with, "Well, Obama is doing backroom dealings and you're a fool for not thinking he's working in the shadows". Of course, he can't provide a single example. Most likely because MSNBC hasn't fed him any examples to use. Typical Obama drone.

I never watch MSNBC..I only watch CNN....sorry if that pisses you off...you can't provide examples either and all you do is refute what I say without any thought whatsover...

Also I am NOT an Obama drone for a I supported Bush as well....I always hated the disrespect that people showed him

[Soul Crusher]

I already told you why I don't answer questions from you or bring evidence...why argue with myself?....you won't believe the evidence anyway and will just stick to your point and continjue on and on...so why bother?..guys like you and 3333 don't really care about the truth//you only want to further your agenda so this is not really a debate...I come here to put forth my opinion just as you do.....I go to other forums for actual debate where there is actual give and take

sorry...but thats how it really is

What other forums.

[Fury]

Responding to the same post of mine twice and still refusing to refute anything = thanks for playing. Feel free to refute Ferguson any time you feel like it. Surely you, who is privy to the back-room dealings going on, can destroy every point Ferguson made, right?

You won't refute him because you can't. Everything he said is 100% spot-on. 

[andreisdaman]

Responding to the same post of mine twice and still refusing to refute anything = thanks for playing. Feel free to refute Ferguson any time you feel like it. Surely you, who is privy to the back-room dealings going on, can destroy every point Ferguson made, right?

You won't refute him because you can't. Everything he said is 100% spot-on. 

sigh......Ferguson is one expert of many..I have seen many other experts on TV who say the opposite...that the U.S. is doing the right thing by not getting too deeply involved publicly and that Obama is doing the right thing..again I choose not to post TV clips because it is a complete waste of time to do so in this forum with guys like you...you won't listen to any expert unless they agree with you.....again..I cited Boehner and you guys just tore him down, said he had no credibility, and basically said he was as bad as Obama....which proves my point..even a guy like him who thinks like you guys do can't convince you..so why should I???

[Soul Crusher]

sigh......Ferguson is one expert of many..I have seen many other experts on TV who say the opposite...that the U.S. is doing the right thing by not getting too deeply involved publicly and that Obama is doing the right thing..again I choose not to post TV clips because it is a complete waste of time to do so in this forum with guys like you...you won't listen to any expert unless they agree with you.....again..I cited Boehner and you guys just tore him down, said he had no credibility, and basically said he was as bad as Obama....which proves my point..even a guy like him who thinks like you guys do can't convince you..so why should I???

Because I don't need Bohner to make up my mind one way or the other.    explain in your own words what obama has done so brilliantly here?

[Soul Crusher]

UPDATE 1-Egypt protesters set cars alight in Cairo
Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:12pm GMT 
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  CAIRO Feb 23 (Reuters) - About six vehicles were set on fire outside the Interior Ministry in Cairo on Wednesday, and witnesses said the blazes were caused by disaffected police officers demanding their jobs back.
  
  Officials were not immediately available for comment. A security source earlier said a fire had erupted at a building used to store criminal evidence near to the Interior Ministry.
  
  Tanks and soldiers are still at intersections in Egypt's capital after Hosni Mubarak was toppled in an 18-day uprising during which the ruling headquarters was burned down in Cairo and police stations were set on fire throughout the country.
  
  Plain-clothed policemen and soldiers cordoned off the area around the ministry on Wednesday, pushing away hundreds of onlookers who came to see the burning vehicles.
  
  The ministry has been surrounded by army vehicles since the military deployed on Cairo streets on Jan. 28.
  
  Witnesses to Wednesday's incidents said the former officers poured petrol over the vehicles and set them alight. At least four fire trucks and four ambulances rushed to the scene. It was not clear if the perpetrators had escaped.
  
  "The ministry had told them they could have their jobs back, but when they went with their papers they were told to use the paper to drink water out of," said one witness, 30, who gave his name as Ashraf and had come to the ministry with his brother, a police officer who had lost his job. (Reporting by Patrick Werr and Sarah Mikhail, editing by Peter Millership)
  
  © Thomson Reuters 2011 All rights reserved
  

[Fury]

sigh......Ferguson is one expert of many..I have seen many other experts on TV who say the opposite...that the U.S. is doing the right thing by not getting too deeply involved publicly and that Obama is doing the right thing..again I choose not to post TV clips because it is a complete waste of time to do so in this forum with guys like you...you won't listen to any expert unless they agree with you.....again..I cited Boehner and you guys just tore him down, said he had no credibility, and basically said he was as bad as Obama....which proves my point..even a guy like him who thinks like you guys do can't convince you..so why should I???

Hahaha, you keep referencing Boehner as if he means something. This is a guy you far-lefties disagree with 99% of the time. The one time he makes nice and agrees with your GodKing, apparently he's an expert. Too funny.

6 pages of rambling diatribe and you still won't refute anything. Ramble, ramble, ramble. Fucking drone.

[Soul Crusher]

Hahaha, you keep referencing Boehner as if he means something. This is a guy you far-lefties disagree with 99% of the time. The one time he makes nice and agrees with your GodKing, apparently he's an expert. Too funny.

6 pages of rambling diatribe and you still won't refute anything. Ramble, ramble, ramble. Fucking drone.

I'm waiting for "its for the children" or something like that.     

[Fury]

I'm waiting for "its for the children" or something like that.     

Hahaha. Qaradawi, the spiritual head of the MB, was already asking the Coptic Christians to bow in submission to Islam at his prayers on Friday. A Coptic Christian priest was gunned down in his church yesterday, too. Egypt's definitely headed for good things. 

[andreisdaman]

Hahaha, you keep referencing Boehner as if he means something. This is a guy you far-lefties disagree with 99% of the time. The one time he makes nice and agrees with your GodKing, apparently he's an expert. Too funny.

6 pages of rambling diatribe and you still won't refute anything. Ramble, ramble, ramble. Fucking drone.

harte


well first of all 3333 did the same thing when he referenced Tim Geithner....3333 hates Geithner with a passion..yet when Geithner said that Obamas budget was a disaster, 3333 cited this to criticize Obama and even posted Geithner's comments....

I did the same thing with Boehner....

I do acknowledge that Geithner is right.....he is on Obama's financial team..if he says the budget is bad then it must be true.....

unfortunately you and 3333 could not bring yourself to do the same with Boehner.....even though both of you agree with Boehner 99% of the time as well....

Jesus guys.....the hypocrisy continues.....THINK