stavios update 18 weeks out from his show

[lesaucer]

it's going very well at this point, I don't understand my lower back fat water but that's fine haha

I am about 7% bf now I think, and I have love handles like a guy who is 12%

fuck love handles 

l-a-s-i-x

[local hero]

it's going very well at this point, I don't understand my lower back fat but that's fine haha

I am about 7% bf now I think, and I have love handles like a guy who is 12%

fuck love handles 

everyone stores it in different places, i suffer the same affliction,,,, lasex wont fix it, all cardio and diet, and its the last spot for me to go.... i can have veiny abbs and still be soft round there....

[Stavios]

everyone stores it in different places, i suffer the same affliction,,,, lasex wont fix it, all cardio and diet, and its the last spot for me to go.... i can have veiny abbs and still be soft round there....

I have never been totally shredded from the back

this year I am destroying the fat over there trust me

I am on a mission

[local hero]

it does come, long as u have plenty time to keep on dieting down... some people seem to get shredded right the way round quite easily tho, lucky bastards

if you had money to burn easy solution would be lypo, just remove those fat cells out of there all together, when i win the lottery i'll be straight there

[notsureifsrs]

it's going very well at this point, I don't understand my lower back fat but that's fine haha

I am about 7% bf now I think, and I have love handles like a guy who is 12%

fuck love handles 

Sounds more like water than fat
what you are running atm?
what's your carbs intake?

[tbombz]

it's going very well at this point, I don't understand my lower back fat but that's fine haha

I am about 7% bf now I think, and I have love handles like a guy who is 12%

fuck love handles 

do lots of reverse hyper extensions and side bends.

[flexingtonsteele]

it's going very well at this point, I don't understand my lower back fat but that's fine haha

I am about 7% bf now I think, and I have love handles like a guy who is 12%

fuck love handles 

haha im the same way. I know im lean (super lean ) when my lower back fat is gone. Its stubborn as fuck.

[flexingtonsteele]

do lots of reverse hyper extensions and side bends.

And if he does a whole bunch of crunches his abs are gonna get really ripped too huh! 

[local hero]

Sounds more like water than fat
what you are running atm?
what's your carbs intake?

nah, water just blurs your condition, fat can be grabbed.......... alot of competitors fool them selves into thinking there just holding water when in fact there probly a few weeks out of shape still

[Stavios]

Sounds more like water than fat
what you are running atm?
what's your carbs intake?

when I squeeze the skin it doesn't look like water, it's too thick

[Meso_z]

when I squeeze the skin it doesn't look like water, it's too thick

Maybe its "loose skin"..? it will tighten up in time or when you carb up..

[tbombz]

And if he does a whole bunch of crunches his abs are gonna get really ripped too huh! 

yea actually. 

[Meso_z]

And if he does a whole bunch of crunches his abs are gonna get really ripped too huh! 

Extra work on abs or lower back seems to help...not dramatic changes but i believe it helps.

[Alex23]

Extra work on abs or lower back seems to help...not dramatic changes but i believe it helps.

Agree.. especially when visceral fat is an issue.. at least works for me..

[Meso_z]

Agree.. especially when visceral fat is an issue.. at least works for me..

When i started out, Ive always watched pros training in their videos and talking about how they never trained abs in the "offseason" and that abs show "in the kitchen"..lol..they never mentioned hgh though.
Anyway, I was overeating a lot trying to "bulk" did not do ANY ab work. my stomach always looked like shit...anyway log story, I have 1.5 yrs now I train my abs religiously eod and although there where some periods I was eating shittier than ever, my stomach was flat and tight with abs "showing".

[Alex23]

When i started out, Ive always watched pros training in their videos and talking about how they never trained abs in the "offseason" and that abs show "in the kitchen"..lol..they never mentioned hgh though.
Anyway, I was overeating a lot trying to "bulk" did not do ANY ab work. my stomach always looked like shit...anyway log story, I have 1.5 yrs now I train my abs religiously eod and although there where some periods I was eating shittier than ever, my stomach was flat and tight with abs "showing".

Very good example.... hey I'm the last authority on these boards when it comes to cum collecting abs crack but I have the same problem as you; second I eat more / overeat, I get the preggo look right away.... not subcue but viceral fat.. like almost overnight...

a couple of sets of training ball abs work every other day seems to keep my palumbish-ism on check...

oh well...

[tbombz]

when a muscle uses fat for energy it uses the fat closest to it..

[Stavios]

when a muscle uses fat for energy it uses the fat closest to it..

are you fucking me ?

haha I suck at this, I need to read more 

[tbombz]

are you fucking me ?

haha I suck at this, I need to read more 

no, im not fucking you, at least as far as i know 


there was a study in muscular development about this a couple years ago that proved a working muscle uses nearby fat stores for energy.

but studies aside, it makes sense when you think about it. would your abdominals use fat from your belly, or would they use fat from your calf of your bicep? of course its going to use the fat that is easiest to use, and thats the closest fat.

[DK II]

no, im not fucking you, at least as far as i know 


there was a study in muscular development about this a couple years ago that proved a working muscle uses nearby fat stores for energy.

but studies aside, it makes sense when you think about it. would your abdominals use fat from your belly, or would they use fat from your calf of your bicep? of course its going to use the fat that is easiest to use, and thats the closest fat.

It's true, and now it gets even worse: If you apply a sports lotion or anything other that will increase blood flow in these regions, it works even better, supposedly.
But i also don't believe that it makes a drastic chage, but hell, every bit helps, and it doesn't hurt as well.

[buselmo]

train abs ed or eod... trust me man... 4 fucking years and i didn't train abs cuz a famous personal trainer told me it doesn't do shit and it's a waste of time...

this year when i trained abs like hell... IT DID NOT MAKE THEM LEANER!!! BUTTTTTTT!!!!!!! it made my waist A LOT tighter... i did vaccums also whenever i was driving or just sitting at work for 2-3 minutes at a time... within a month, you'll notice that your waist measures less, your abs are always tight, and with the vaccums, you develope the inner abdominal wall and your stomach sucks in by itself. once i stopped doing that for 3 weeks, and eating almost the same food... that affect was gone!... it's a good feeling to have your abs sucked in without even wanting them to... i want that back 

[Meso_z]

train abs ed or eod... trust me man... 4 fucking years and i didn't train abs cuz a famous personal trainer told me it doesn't do shit and it's a waste of time...

this year when i trained abs like hell... IT DID NOT MAKE THEM LEANER!!! BUTTTTTTT!!!!!!! it made my waist A LOT tighter... i did vaccums also whenever i was driving or just sitting at work for 2-3 minutes at a time... within a month, you'll notice that your waist measures less, your abs are always tight, and with the vaccums, you develope the inner abdominal wall and your stomach sucks in by itself. once i stopped doing that for 3 weeks, and eating almost the same food... that affect was gone!... it's a good feeling to have your abs sucked in without even wanting them to... i want that back 

[local hero]

train abs ed or eod... trust me man... 4 fucking years and i didn't train abs cuz a famous personal trainer told me it doesn't do shit and it's a waste of time...

this year when i trained abs like hell... IT DID NOT MAKE THEM LEANER!!! BUTTTTTTT!!!!!!! it made my waist A LOT tighter... i did vaccums also whenever i was driving or just sitting at work for 2-3 minutes at a time... within a month, you'll notice that your waist measures less, your abs are always tight, and with the vaccums, you develope the inner abdominal wall and your stomach sucks in by itself. once i stopped doing that for 3 weeks, and eating almost the same food... that affect was gone!... it's a good feeling to have your abs sucked in without even wanting them to... i want that back 

i remember reading about vacuums years ago, somthing that ive never thought about for a long time, it makes sence logicaly, i think its definatly somthing a competitor should look at for the period of his diet

[local hero]

also,, the brit guys used to bang on about a compound you could inject into fat stores,, cant remember the propper name for it tho as ive never used it?

[Meso_z]

also,, the brit guys used to bang on about a compound you could inject into fat stores,, cant remember the propper name for it tho as ive never used it?

"Helios" maybe?