stavios update 18 weeks out from his show

[Rearden Metal]

Well my legs are genetically very good, so I often train them 2-3 times a month only.. even after a hip/quad tear and the hamstring tear, and subsequent lighter training, they are still boss.

But if any area flattens out, it's my arms a little when low calorie/carbs. Still, I couldn't train them more than once a week or every 6 days on a diet... just can't recuperate fast enough.

Your legs are flat because you're overtraining IMO. Back off and give them 7-8 days to fill up, and go lighter on the intense cardio, too. You have plenty of time still to get ripped.

[Stavios]

Well my legs are genetically very good, so I often train them 2-3 times a month only.. even after a hip/quad tear and the hamstring tear, and subsequent lighter training, they are still boss.

But if any area flattens out, it's my arms a little when low calorie/carbs. Still, I couldn't train them more than once a week or every 6 days on a diet... just can't recuperate fast enough.

Your legs are flat because you're overtraining IMO. Back off and give them 7-8 days to fill up, and go lighter on the intense cardio, too. You have plenty of time still to get ripped.

Yeah I am just freaking out I have a tendency of changing too much variables too fast haha

I'll relax a bit I am pretty lean for 12 weeks out already

[Rearden Metal]

Take my advice, back off the training for a week or so and let your body rest up. You're very lean for 3 months out, the last thing you want is to be stringy and lose too much size.

Back off for a week, then start off lower intensity and increase intensity every week for 6 weeks. Then maintain for 2 weeks and start filling out sloooooowlyyyyy... Come in fresh but ripped to pieces.

[Meso_z]

Yeah I am just freaking out I have a tendency of changing too much variables too fast haha

I'll relax a bit I am pretty lean for 12 weeks out already

12 weeks out and youre under 10%?

Man youre on track...! dont freak out 

[Rearden Metal]

12 weeks out and youre under 10%?

Man youre on track...! dont freak out 

He's in great position to make a mark this year

I'm 11% (or so) 7 months out of my show. It's both easier and harder to prep for a long drawn out period.

[Stavios]

12 weeks out and youre under 10%?

Man youre on track...! dont freak out 

I want to look like this I might have to get down another 15 lbs or so

[Stavios]

Good news / bad  news : I have to quit the job at the club so I'll have to find something else as a side job but at least I'll stop hurting myself every other weekend 

[tbombz]

Take my advice, back off the training for a week or so and let your body rest up. You're very lean for 3 months out, the last thing you want is to be stringy and lose too much size.

Back off for a week, then start off lower intensity and increase intensity every week for 6 weeks. Then maintain for 2 weeks and start filling out sloooooowlyyyyy... Come in fresh but ripped to pieces.

good advice

[Stavios]

I always have a lot of problem "resting" while dieting for a show because I never want to stop the fat loss

that's why I train 2 times a day, to burn fat faster (5 training are heavier the 5 other training sessions are giant sets)

[Rearden Metal]

I always have a lot of problem "resting" while dieting for a show because I never want to stop the fat loss

that's why I train 2 times a day, to burn fat faster (5 training are heavier the 5 other training sessions are giant sets)

Head games, man. While I understand the idea, it's not true IMO. You can most certainly scale back intensity and allow recuperation. Especially if you're dieting a long ass time like you have been. You need to give your CNS a break.

[Meso_z]

I always have a lot of problem "resting" while dieting for a show because I never want to stop the fat loss

that's why I train 2 times a day, to burn fat faster (5 training are heavier the 5 other training sessions are giant sets)

Whats you diet at this point stavios?

[Stavios]

Whats you diet at this point stavios?

meal 1: 8 egg whites, 1 bagel

meal 2: 100gr carbs + 60 gr protein shake p-w

meal 3: 2 cups rice + 200gr horse meat

meal 4: 200gr chicken + 1 bagel

meal 5: 200gr horse meat + illimited veggies

meal 6: 200gr horse meat + illimited veggies


1 cheat meal sunday night that I will cut at 6 or 8 weeks out

[Rearden Metal]

Why do you eat horse meat? Cheap? WTF does it taste like?

[flexingtonsteele]

Alright so since last week I train my quads (and hams indirectly) monday evening, hams wednesday evening (and quads indirectly), and saturday morning I also do legs but some sorts of giant sets and squats and leg presses with frog position for the inner tighs.


maybe that's a but much because my legs looked small this morning, but yesterday was my super low carb day also so I might just be a bit flat.

I might cut out the satuday morning leg workout and train something else instead because next week I will start walking 30 minute incline at medium intensity (not fast enough to jog), and I don't think my quads will handle cardio + 3 leg workouts per week.


maybe if my legs were my strong point but they are one muscle that always shrink a lot while dieting, even if they get quite good sized in the off-season

I was kind of disapointed to see them lose their fullness when I started dieted down in the fall 

probably just flat bro.

are you doing cardio as well?

[Stavios]

Why do you eat horse meat? Cheap? WTF does it taste like?

yeah it's the cheapest meat !

it tastes just like beef exept it.. but less good haha

I put a bit of tabasco or worcestershire sauce in it  and it's good 

[Stavios]

probably just flat bro.

are you doing cardio as well?

not yet, I'll start next week 30 minutes of fast walking on an incline threadmill 4 times a week

yeah I think I was just flat cause today was a high carb day and I feel much better

my abs are looking fucking crazy right now, wich means the next step to go away will be the back fat   (normally for me )


Imma make you proud Flexington, I don't want you to destroy my ego like you do on the tiny tits at RX haha

[tbombz]

are you doing much flexing stav? i started flexing more lately and it is working wonders at making my muscles harder and more shapely.

[flexingtonsteele]

not yet, I'll start next week 30 minutes of fast walking on an incline threadmill 4 times a week

yeah I think I was just flat cause today was a high carb day and I feel much better

my abs are looking fucking crazy right now, wich means the next step to go away will be the back fat  (normally for me )


Imma make you proud Flexington, I don't want you to destroy my ego like you do on the tiny tits at RX haha

i was just asking about the cardio. because sometimes if your doing alot of cardio that can make your legs look a bit flat and feel weak, even when you have a good amount of carbs in your diet like u do.

u sound like ur doing fine bro. just keep doing what your doing. dont get too much advice from the internet and just keep doing what your doing.

dont overthink this shit. its not rocket science.

[Stavios]

are you doing much flexing stav? i started flexing more lately and it is working wonders at making my muscles harder and more shapely.

nope I don't but I'll start posing sessions at around 8 weeks out to get ready for the stage

now I am still taking it easy a bit, I don't want to get burned out I have been dieting for a while now

[Stavios]

i was just asking about the cardio. because sometimes if your doing alot of cardio that can make your legs look a bit flat and feel weak, even when you have a good amount of carbs in your diet like u do.

u sound like ur doing fine bro. just keep doing what your doing. dont get too much advice from the internet and just keep doing what your doing.

dont overthink this shit. its not rocket science.

I train legs very often tho so that might do the same thing !

but I realized in this diet that I can't go low carbs as long as before.

Usually in past prep, I could do 2 weeks  of protein only without even feeling it in my energy or my physique, this year as soon as carbs are below 200 I feel it

[local hero]

nope I don't but I'll start posing sessions at around 8 weeks out to get ready for the stage

now I am still taking it easy a bit, I don't want to get burned out I have been dieting for a while now

your lean and your not posing!!,,, our lass would have to drag me from the mirror... i do think this is a big thing that alot of lads overlook.. presentation can help alot, just hitting your mandatories perfectly for your body

[Meso_z]

I have used posing and flexing as a form of cardio in my past prep. For 15-20 minutes after the last meal, before going to bed.

[Meso_z]

Stavios at what bf did you started dieting and how much have you dropped in a period of lets say 12-14 weeks?

[Stavios]

your lean and your not posing!!,,, our lass would have to drag me from the mirror... i do think this is a big thing that alot of lads overlook.. presentation can help alot, just hitting your mandatories perfectly for your body

I hate checking myself in the mirror, I am kinda reverse-annorexic and I'm depressed the whole day afterward haha

[Stavios]

Stavios at what bf did you started dieting and how much have you dropped in a period of lets say 12-14 weeks?

Don't know the bf%, I never have it checked.

but.. I was 255 lbs or so haha
I just cleaned up my diet a bit but didn't diet "that" hard, but after 3 months I was already down to 215. A lot of it was water weight.
but I didn't look that good at 215, I used slin and got up to 230 again around november (again lot of water weight but it helped my physique).

then I started lowering the calories againt after christmas, got down to 212 in about 8 weeks.

then I cut the testosterone and in 2 weeks I dropped to 203-204 really quick, my face kinda lose 8 of those pounds itself haha.


so I was FAT as fuck at 255, I just have a very loong body hold fat very evenly so most of the times I think I have 30  lbs to lose and I have much much more