FORCED GROWING

[lesaucer]

can you imagine training only one bodypart example:back, 4 days a week, for like one month ? im curious

[biggerthanuandu]

I read about a test that was done where a guy did arms for a full day. 

He would do a massive curl routine, drink shakes before and after. Rest for a couple hours. Eat drink shakes and do it again a total of four or five times throughout the day. Claimed to make a gain of inches..... It was a Flex magazine or something like that but it was interesting nonetheless. Never tried it personally.

[jpm101]

Must be referring to the old one day arm program.  The majority of men gained (lasting)  1/8 to 3/8 from this protocol from that one day. Not too many mid range or advanced BB'ers will gain 3/8 (for example) in 6 months to a year of hard training.  I've known and heard about a few guy's having grest success with this type program. Seems to work also on delts and very well for stubborn calves.

Using a light weights, the pump is what is worked for. Usually from 7 to 8 workouts that full day, on the hour, every hour. Triceps & biceps are worked together (2X10), in a light SS fashion, and never to a point of failure. Just want to hold a pump most of the day in the arms. The guy's who didn't gain or gave up before the workouts were completed  would use too heavy a weight or too many sets each hour. Forcing growth by these means failed in the long run.

Exercises like BB close grip curls & Tricep press downs. Or Incline DB curls & DB French presses, etc. Theses exercise are usually preformed in a stricter style and full ROM. Compound movements like close grip benches (triceps) and close grip chins(biceps) are never used because they call in too many supporting muscles (hence the name Compound).. Only want to focus on the biceps & triceps as much as you can.

Drinking high protein and simple carb based shakes, rather than solid foods throughout the workout day, is the pattern most follow. Easier to digest and gets into the blood stream. Better than breaking down and digesting most solid foods. Though some guy's that I know of have eaten tuna or ice cream with the shakes. Suggest that after such a long day program you go out for a extra thick steak and potato, you earned it. This type program can be very demanding on the whole body. Have to experience it to really understand what I mean.

Best to do it at home, if you have extra weights around. Really need a couple sets of DB's or light BB.  Pain in the butt to hang around a gym all day just for something like that. Just my view.  Good luck.

[local hero]

so for every hr of an average day, say 8am to 11pm youd do 2 supersets for bis n tris?

would be worth trying one weekend just for a laugh, preferably whilest on gear, with a whole cheat day the next day

will post when i actualy get enough time to try it out, be a while like.....

[Painlayer69]

I read about a test that was done where a guy did arms for a full day. 

He would do a massive curl routine, drink shakes before and after. Rest for a couple hours. Eat drink shakes and do it again a total of four or five times throughout the day. Claimed to make a gain of inches..... It was a Flex magazine or something like that but it was interesting nonetheless. Never tried it personally.

I remember that and i think they claimed that all he had that day was cell-tech and nitro-tech

[jpm101]

They claimed that's all they had all day  was Cell-Tech & Nitro-Tech because they were SELLING those crap products.

Keep the calories up to at least 3,200 for the day. Small light meals or shakes 6 times that day. May not think so but 7 to 8 light workout, every hour, can be draining. An arm day, for example, is about the pump and only the pump for that full day. Good Luck.

[Stavios]

haha the arms thing is BS obviously, but I believe you take train a muscle VERY frequently and have great results because of that.

look at Layne, he had awesome results training legs 2-3 times a week

[tbombz]

i have been thinking alot about this lately.

the idea overtraining is  basically a myth if you can keep your muscles 'fresh' by staying away from failure.


olympic weightlifters will often times do several workouts per day for the same muscle. low volume, sub failure.

and all the best professional athletes who train like maniacs day in and day out always have great physiques.


the all day arm workout sounds cool. i think i am going to try it out sometime soon. might start doing that kind fo thing for everybody part at least once a month if it works ok.

[local hero]

ahtletes and olympic lifter arent training for mass tho, they are training for strength and technique...

i know where your comming from tho, i dont think the human body is as weak as some claim

[tbombz]

only difference between training for strength and size is rep range..   

strength focus on low reps while incorporating moderate to higher reps..

size focus on moderate reps while incorporating low reps and high reps..

[asbrus]

only difference between training for strength and size is rep range..   

strength focus on low reps while incorporating moderate to higher reps..

size focus on moderate reps while incorporating low reps and high reps..

 L00K AT 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTERS AND THEIR LEGS. THEY ALL HAVE MASSIVE LEGS AND VERY DENSE. A L0T 0F THE 185 LBERS HAVE THICKER LEGS THAN S0ME AMATEURS 0R 202 PR0S. THEY ALL W0RK THEIR LEGS IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE. IT'S JUST THAT 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTERS D0N'T W0RK THEIR CHEST, ARMS,0R LATS AS MUCH AS PR0 B0DYBUILDERS.

[local hero]

they are also in the top 1% of the strongest people on the planet............

[asbrus]

they are also in the top 1% of the strongest people on the planet............

N0 THEY'RE N0T. L0L 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING IS N0T ALL BRUTE STRENGTH. THIS IS WHY AMERICA ALWAYS GETS LAST PLACE. THE CHINESE HAVE W0N THE W0RLDS AND 0LYMPICS IN B0TH THE W0MEN AND MEN'S F0R THE LAST 10 YEARS. ARE Y0U TELLING ME CHINESE PE0PLE ARE PHYSICALLY SUPRERI0R IN BRUTE STRENGTH? N0 THEY'RE N0T. 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING IS A C0MBINATI0N 0F STRENGTH,FLEXIBILITY,SPEED,BALANCE,AND M0ST IMP0RTANT EXECUTI0N AND TECHNIQUE. IF Y0U A HAVE A TERRIBLE C0ACH, BRUTE STRENGTH W0N'T GET Y0U ANYWHERE. PLUS THEY GET THEIR STRENGTH FR0M DRUGS ANYWAYS. IT'S THE TECHNIQUE AND SPEED THAT GETS Y0U T0 THE T0P. Y0U CAN BE PHYSICALLY WEAK NATURALLY, BUT IF Y0U HAVE EXCELLENT TECHNIQUE AND SPEED IN THE CLEAN AND JERK AND LIFTS, Y0U'LL BE A W0RLD CHAMP.

[local hero]

are you for real.... they arent strong??..... get a fucking grip, why would america yeild the strongest athletes??, america has a poor record in feild events and strong man...


china rules the lighter classes, eastern bloc rules the heavier classes, now n then cuba/iran/turkey/another chip in from time to time..

they are incredible atheletes, top 1% in the world, just as the black sprinters are in 100 meters, it is a very technical sport, but all the technique in the world wont shift x amount of weight from the floor

drugs are even,, they all use same things

also,YOUR A MORON......

[local hero]

Y0U CAN BE PHYSICALLY WEAK NATURALLY, BUT IF Y0U HAVE EXCELLENT TECHNIQUE AND SPEED IN THE CLEAN AND JERK AND LIFTS, Y0U'LL BE A W0RLD CHAMP.[/color]

[asbrus]

are you for real.... they arent strong??..... get a fucking grip, why would america yeild the strongest athletes??, america has a poor record in feild events and strong man...


china rules the lighter classes, eastern bloc rules the heavier classes, now n then cuba/iran/turkey/another chip in from time to time..

they are incredible atheletes, top 1% in the world, just as the black sprinters are in 100 meters, it is a very technical sport, but all the technique in the world wont shift x amount of weight from the floor

drugs are even,, they all use same things

also,YOUR A MORON......

WHAT THE FUCK D0ES STR0NG MAN HAVE T0 D0 WITH 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING? PR00F AGAIN Y0U KN0W N0THING AB0UT THE SP0RT. 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING IS N0T A PURE STRENGTH SP0RT LIKE P0WERLIFTING 0R STR0NGMAN.
WHERE DID I SAY THEY AREN'T STR0NG. I SAID STRENGTH IS SEC0ND NEXT T0 TECHNIQUE AND SPEED. THEY GET THE STRENGTH FR0M THE DRUGS. ANY0NE CAN BE STR0NG BY TAKING DRUGS EVEN IF Y0U ARE WEAK NATURALLY. THE CHINESE HAVE EXCELLENT TECHNIQUE AND SPEED WHICH IS WHY THEY WIN. S0 THE CHINESE HAVE THE STR0NGEST PE0PLE IN THE W0RLD? HMM 0KAY. STRANGE THINKING. GET THIS THR0UGH Y0UR THICK SKULL. 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING IS N0T A BRUTE STRENGTH. ANY 0LYMPIC C0ACH WILL TELL Y0U THIS. Y0U NEED T0 HAVE A HUGE TALENT F0R TECHNIQUE. CHINA D0MINATES N0T 0NLY THE LIGHTER WEIGHTS BUT THE UPPER WEIGHTS T00. Y0U 0BVI0USLY KN0W N0THING AB0UT 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING. RIGHT DRUGS ARE EVEN. S0 WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE? IT'S THE TECHNIQUE JUST LIKE IN B0XING,SH0T PUT,WRESTLING. 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING IS N0T A BRUTE STRENGTH. IT'S A TECHNICAL SP0RT. THEY D0N'T WIN THE BRUTE STRENGTH. THEY WIN WITH SUPERI0R TECHNIQUE. Y0U'RE THE M0R0N.

[asbrus]

RIGHT Y0U GET  THE STRENGTH FR0M THE DRUGS. S0 WHAT SEPARATES FIRST FR0M SEC0ND? IT'S TECHNIQUE AND SPEED. D0 Y0U EVEN UNDERSTAND H0W THE LIFTS ARE D0NE. BRUTE STRENGTH IS 0NLY A SMALL PART 0F THE LIFT. IT'S THE SPEED AND EXECUTI0N THAT GETS THE LIFT UP. USING BRUTE STRENGTH T0 D0 THE LIFT WILL N0T GET Y0U ANYWHERE. Y0U PR0VED T0 ME Y0U KN0W N0THING AB0UT 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFING BY C0MPARING IT T0 STR0NG MAN EVENTS. Y0U HAVE GUYS WITH 14 INCH ARMS PICKING UP 400 LBS 0VER THEIR HEAD. THEY D0N'T D0 IT WITH BRUTE STRENGTH. BY THE WAY Y0U'RE WR0NG AB0UT AMERICA N0T D0ING WEL IN STRENGTH SP0RTS. AMERICA HAS PR0DUCED L0TS 0F GREAT P0WER LIFTERS BUT ALM0ST N0 GREAT WEIGHTLIFTERS. WHY IS THAT? IT'S BECAUSE IT D0SEN'T MATTER H0W STR0NG Y0U ARE, IF Y0UR TECHNIQUE SUCKS AND Y0U HAVE N0 SPEED, Y0U'LL SUCK AT 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING AND ALS0 THE C0ACHING HERE IS TERRIBLE.

[local hero]

yeh thats why you can take a physically weak quik person and make them into world class weightlifters because there fast and have good technique

THEY ARE TOP 1% GENETICS IN THE WORLD, FREAKS OF NATURE............WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO GET THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL

[local hero]

RIGHT Y0U GET  THE STRENGTH FR0M THE DRUGS.

your kidding me now right.... honestly?

i suppose the sprinters get the speed from the drugs too,,,,

america prevailed in powerlifting as the main strength countries 'eastern bloc/china' only funds olympic sports, all there cream went to feild or weight lifiting

they do have all the best coaches as you stated, they also have great technique, but if you dont think these people werent born abnormaly strong there is somthing very wrong with you..

[asbrus]

yeh thats why you can take a physically weak quik person and make them into world class weightlifters because there fast and have good technique

THEY ARE TOP 1% GENETICS IN THE WORLD, FREAKS OF NATURE............WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO GET THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL

PHYSCIALLY WEAK PERS0N CAN BEC0ME VERY STR0NG WITH DRUGS. I NEVER SAID THEY WERE WEAK. I SAID TECHNIQUE AND SPEED IS NUMBER 0NE IN WEIGHTLIFTING F0LL0WED BY STRENGTH. THIS IS WHY Y0U CAN TAKE A WEAK GUY PUT HIM 0N DRUGS BUT IF HE HAS EXCELLENT TECHNIQUE IN THE LIFTS AND INSANE SPEED, HE'LL WIN THE G0LD MEDAL BECAUSE IT'S N0T A BRUTE STRENGTH SP0RT. THE GUY WITH BETTER TECHNIQUE WILL BEAT THE NATURALLY STR0NGER GUY WH0 IS SL0W AND HAS H0RRIBLE TECHNIQUE. THIS IS WHY AMERICA D0ES WELL IN P0WERLIFTING BECAUSE IT'S A BRUTE STRENGTH SP0RT BUT THEY CAN'T PR0DUCE ANY G00D WEIGHTLIFTERS. TH0SE GUYS WIN BECAUSE THEY ARE NATURALLY GIFTED IN THE TECHNICAL ASPECT 0F PERF0RMING THE CLEAN AND JERK AND SNATCH. THEY ARE ALS0 VERY FAST IN THE LIFTS.

[asbrus]

your kidding me now right.... honestly?

i suppose the sprinters get the speed from the drugs too,,,,

america prevailed in powerlifting as the main strength countries 'eastern bloc/china' only funds olympic sports, all there cream went to feild or weight lifiting

they do have all the best coaches as you stated, they also have great technique, but if you dont think these people werent born abnormaly strong there is somthing very wrong with you..

EASTERN EUR0PE STILL D0MINATED P0WERLIFTING IN THE IPF WITH STRICTER RULES T00. THERE IS ALM0ST N0 FUNDING F0R WEIGHTLIFTING IN RUSSIA AS 0F N0W.
THIS IS MY P0INT AGAIN. IT D0SEN'T MATTER IF THEY WERE B0RN SUPER STR0NG 0R N0T. IF THEY SUCK AT THE LIFT THEN THEY W0N'T WIN SHIT. L00K AT ED C0AN WH0 TRIED AND FAILED. Y0U D0N'T UNDERSTAND THE SP0RT 0F WEIGHTLIFTING. IN SPRINTING, IT'S ALL SPEED. THERE IS VERY LITTLE TECHNIQUE INV0LVED. IN 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING, TECHNIQUE AND SPEED IS EVERYTHING. BRUTE STRENGTH IS SEC0ND. TH0SE PE0PLE WERE B0RN T0 PERF0RM THE LIFTS VERY WELL WITH EXCELLENT TECHNIQUE AND SPEED  0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING IS N0T A BRUTE STRENGTH SP0RT. P0WERLIFTING IS. IF STRENGTH WAS AS IMP0RTANT AS Y0U W0ULD SAY, Y0U W0ULD HAVE SC0TT MENDELS0N,ED C0AN,AND KIRK KIRK0WSKI EASILY WINNING G0LD MEDALS IN 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING. THEY CAN'T BECAUSE THEIR TECHNIQUE SUCKS AND THEY ARE T00 SL0W REGARDLESS 0F BRUTE STRENGTH. S0 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING IS STRENGTH SEC0ND AND TECHNIQUE AND SPEED FIRST.

[local hero]

a physicaly weak person cant become a world class weightlifter/powerlifter or what ever

they are fuck off strong before they ever touch a weight, just as a spritner is fuck off fast before he's ever coached

these supreme human beings are born with extreme explosive power and an ungodly amount on fast twitch fibres

WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO COMPREHEND?

[asbrus]

a physicaly weak person cant become a world class weightlifter/powerlifter or what ever

they are fuck off strong before they ever touch a weight, just as a spritner is fuck off fast before he's ever coached

these supreme human beings are born with extreme explosive power and an ungodly amount on fast twitch fibres

WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO COMPREHEND?

I NEVER SAID THEY WEREN'T STR0NG. I'M SAYING STRENGTH IS N0T AS IMP0RTANT AS SPEED AND TECHNIQUE IN 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING. THE WEAKER GUY WITH BETTER TECHNIQUE AND SPEED WILL ALWAYS WIN IN 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING. T0 PUT THAT MUCH WEIGHT 0VER Y0UR HEAD REQUIRES A L0T 0F SPEED AND N0T 0NLY STRENGTH. P0WERLIFTING AND 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING ARE TW0 DIFFERENT SP0RTS AND BRUTE STRENGTH IN 0NE IS MUCH M0RE IMP0RTANT IN P0WERLIFTING. THAT'S ALL.

[local hero]

youve stated several times in this thread that they arent strong, arent an elite ... now you concede they are, i just dont see the point your trying to proove


why cant you just give these guys credit as legit top athletes, not wanka red neck powerlifters, real top top olympians

and if you think none of these monsters couldnt have trained and won numerous powerlifting titles your crazy, but why would they when there legends in there countries winning OLYMPIC gold medals, not tin cup trophies

[asbrus]

youve stated several times in this thread that they arent strong, arent an elite ... now you concede they are, i just dont see the point your trying to proove


why cant you just give these guys credit as legit top athletes, not wanka red neck powerlifters, real top top olympians

and if you think none of these monsters couldnt have trained and won numerous powerlifting titles your crazy, but why would they when there legends in there countries winning OLYMPIC gold medals, not tin cup trophies

I NEVER SAID THEY WEREN'T STR0NG. I SAID IT'S N0T A NECCESSITY T0 HAVE INSANE BRUTE STRENGTH T0 BE A GREAT WEIGHTLIFTER. ED C0AN IS AN EXAMPLE 0F A GUY WH0 HAS BRUTE STRENGTH BUT SUCKS AT 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING. MARK HENRY IS AN0THER GUY AND S0 ARE MANY M0RE GREAT P0WERLIFTERS. ACTUALLY, I D0 SEE THEM M0RE AS ATHLETES THAN P0WERLIFTERS BECAUSE IT'S N0T JUST PURE BRUTE STRENGTH BUT A C0MBINATI0N 0F SPEED,FLEXIBILITY,P0WER,STRENGTH,AND TECHNIQUE ALL IN 0NE LIFT.