Are men afraid to fight these days?

[OneMoreRep]

Have you ever trained with John Danaher? I've heard he's is a wizard on the mat and a BJJ genius.

Absolutely.  John is a staple at Renzo's academy.  I'm a brown belt myself, but I can't fuck with John.  He is as humble as they come and an all-around great guy.  He truly knows his BJJ and does a fine job as a professor at the academy.  Last I heard, he is now George St. Pierre's BJJ instructor.  Renzo tends to surround himself with very nice people and John is one of them.

You train boxing and BJJ 3-4 times a week. And I assume you are also in the gym hitting the weights. How do you schedule all this? What days do you do weight training and what days boxing/BJJ?

While I now only go to Renzo's gym every now and then, I found a place by my apartment that I can go to with more frequency.  A Machado black belt opened his own gym and I go there (because it's 10 blocks away from my place) to roll with other brown and black belts.  The Machado place also has a Muy Thai and boxing instructor (very convenient), so I take advantage whenever I can to get lessons from those guys as well.  I do at the very least an hour 3-4 times of the week at this gym.  My schedule looks like this typically when I go to the gym and train (remember, I do this 3 or 4 times of the week only, sometimes it's 3 days during the week only in a Mon/Wed/Fri split):

Wake up at 5AM
5:30-6:30 AM - Hit the local Equinox for weight training (3 blocks from home)
6:30-7 AM - Shower at the gym, jump into my suit
7:15-7:45 AM - Commute to work
7:45 - 8:00 AM - Eat a small breakfast
8:00AM - 5:00 PM - Work Day (meals in between)
5:15 PM - 5:45 PM - Commute home
6:30 PM - Have dinner with my partner
7:30 PM - 8:45 PM - Go to the Machado's gym or Renzo's gym
8:45-9PM - head home
By 10 PM I will have showered and still have time to have a few snacks, watch some tv and review files for the next work day.

BTW, you are very much over stating the consequences of a street fight. It's one thing if you assault someone and quite another if a mutual brawl breaks out. I was in a couple of rows last year. One was more along the lines of a challenge match like you mentioned but still bare fist no rules. Another was a brawl in a parking lot following a traffic altercation. Nothing happened and nothing has ever happened in street brawls that I've gotten in during my life. There was one incident many years ago when cops were called and all that happened was that I had to show ID so the officer can get my information and that was it.

In New York City, most if not all, fights will land you in jail, unless you have proper reason and witnesses to back your justification.
 

Anybody, and I mean anybody, can walk away from a fight. Not everybody can stand their ground and actually fight.

Swallowing your pride and holding back your rage/anger is one of the hardest things to do in this life.

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[johnnynoname]

I know that this is somewhat of a Non sequitor but I want to ask onemorerep this question:

what is your personal opinion on Bisexuals and Trannies being lumped in with Homosexuals?

I mean, the "community" is known as the LGBT.  It's like you guys are being lumped in with the Trannies who aren't really "Gay" per se- just "born in the wrong body".  And I don't know how you guys tolerate "Bisexuals"- I mean, "Bisexual" is bullshit.  It is just a term used by gay guys who don't want to come out of the closet

However, i have to say that it is very benevolent (for lack of better words) of the Gays to welcome the Trannies but really it is kind of a HUGE misnomer as well

[Parker]

Pellius resides in Hawaii, where they tend to fight it out...out here on the West coast---shit like the OP's situation can get you shot...even if you are the police.

Both of you two are correct--except, swallowing one's pride and anger---sometimes results in a volcano of anger that will errupt---a Berserker aspect

[pellius]

Absolutely.  John is a staple at Renzo's academy.  I'm a brown belt myself, but I can't fuck with John.  He is as humble as they come and an all-around great guy.  He truly knows his BJJ and does a fine job as a professor at the academy.  Last I heard, he is now George St. Pierre's BJJ instructor.  Renzo tends to surround himself with very nice people and John is one of them.

While I now only go to Renzo's gym every now and then, I found a place by my apartment that I can go to with more frequency.  A Machado black belt opened his own gym and I go there (because it's 10 blocks away from my place) to roll with other brown and black belts.  The Machado place also has a Muy Thai and boxing instructor (very convenient), so I take advantage whenever I can to get lessons from those guys as well.  I do at the very least an hour 3-4 times of the week at this gym.  My schedule looks like this typically when I go to the gym and train (remember, I do this 3 or 4 times of the week only, sometimes it's 3 days during the week only in a Mon/Wed/Fri split):

Wake up at 5AM
5:30-6:30 AM - Hit the local Equinox for weight training (3 blocks from home)
6:30-7 AM - Shower at the gym, jump into my suit
7:15-7:45 AM - Commute to work
7:45 - 8:00 AM - Eat a small breakfast
8:00AM - 5:00 PM - Work Day (meals in between)
5:15 PM - 5:45 PM - Commute home
6:30 PM - Have dinner with my partner
7:30 PM - 8:45 PM - Go to the Machado's gym or Renzo's gym
8:45-9PM - head home
By 10 PM I will have showered and still have time to have a few snacks, watch some tv and review files for the next work day.

In New York City, most if not all, fights will land you in jail, unless you have proper reason and witnesses to back your justification.
 
Swallowing your pride and holding back your rage/anger is one of the hardest things to do in this life.

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That is quite a schedule. Props for your discipline.

What is the name of the Machado Black Belt? I trained at their originally school in Redondo Beach back when Chuck Norris was still there. I left Rickson's school when Rickson started competing and doing seminars and not much teaching. At that time early/mid 1990s the Machado's was the place to be. All the brothers were there: Carlos, Rigan, Jean-Jacques, Roger, John. They were always there at the same time teaching and rolling. Also, a lot of Black Belts from Brasil were always coming and going. Even Mark Kerr and Ken and Frank Shamrock would stop by back in the day. Ken and Frank couldn't hang with Rigan and Jean-Jacques but Kerr was a different story. Kerr and Rigan grew to be close friends.

The original Gracie Academy in Torrance, where I started before Rickson left and started his own school, became very cliquish? They only trained among themselves and forbid their students from training with members from other schools. They also stopped competing in tournaments. They just became very closed. Some speculated that as BJJ was gaining popularity it was getting watered down and they wanted to maintain their "purity."

Closing yourself off form others is always a bad idea. You limit yourself to new ideas and difference perspectives. This was brutally shown when they invited us, the Machados, to a private close door tournament held at their school. Even then they made it all secretive and they wanted a list of names of who would be competing, though we didn't care who they had. You had to be preapproved before you could be let in and the doors were kept closed and locked. We were allowed only one video camera to be held only by one of the Machado brothers.

No matter. We crushed them. Every last one of them. The game was evolving and they weren't. You should have see the look of Rorion's face when one by one we'd tap or run rings around his guys. It was like a father who is sure his son is king of the hill getting worked. 

[pellius]

Pellius resides in Hawaii, where they tend to fight it out...out here on the West coast---shit like the OP's situation can get you shot...even if you are the police.

Both of you two are correct--except, swallowing one's pride and anger---sometimes results in a volcano of anger that will errupt---a Berserker aspect

There was a fight recently at the Mall in the Food court. Nobody called the cops or even security. The guys were going at it with their respective posse on opposite sides shouting out words of encouragement and advice. It's amazing how much fighting has changed since MMA. There were knees, kicks, take downs, guard, submission attempts, scrambling back on your feet. It use to be two guys just trashing at each other until exhaustion. Now it's much more technical. Guys actually train now.

They were pretty evenly matched and fought to a draw. The fight started running long and people, including their supporters, started getting bored. The fighters were getting tired and it degenerated to just clinching which looked more like they were just holding each other up to keep from collapsing from exhaustion. So they just stopped, shook hands and everybody went back to their business.

No guns, knives, people jumping in, cops or security. Just another scrap. BTW, these weren't little kids. They looked to be in their early twenties.

[che]

There was a fight recently at the Mall in the Food court. Nobody called the cops or even security. The guys were going at it with their respective posse on opposite sides shouting out words of encouragement and advice. It's amazing how much fighting has changed since MMA. There were knees, kicks, take downs, guard, submission attempts, scrambling back on your feet. It use to be two guys just trashing at each other until exhaustion. Now it's much more technical. Guys actually train now.

They were pretty evenly matched and fought to a draw. The fight started running long and people, including their supporters, started getting bored. The fighters were getting tired and it degenerated to just clinching which looked more like they were just holding each other up to keep from collapsing from exhaustion. So they just stopped, shook hands and everybody went back to their business.

No guns, knives, people jumping in, cops or security. Just another scrap. BTW, these weren't little kids. They looked to be in their early twenties.

That wasn't a real street fight Pellius ,that was  an organized street fight ,totally different .

[pellius]

That wasn't a real street fight Pellius ,that was  an organized street fight ,totally different .

I don't what you mean by organized. One guy saw another guy hitting on his girlfriend that was working at the Subway. They exchanged some words. Then one of them pushed the other and fists started flying. It wasn't exactly on a street but in a mall but I use the term loosely. I even consider a fight in a club bathroom as a street fight.

[Les Grossman]

Slow down my sexy friend, some of you are taking this way too seriously.

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OneMoreRep.....relax, MBP is just busting my grapes and I'm giving a little back - we cool.

But that was some verbal dressing down you threw out there....I'm hanging my head in shame for being taken to task by a "homo" ( ).

(While sporting a raging hard-on of course.)

          

[che]

I don't what you mean by organized. One guy saw another guy hitting on his girlfriend that was working at the Subway. They exchanged some words. Then one of them pushed the other and fists started flying. It wasn't exactly on a street but in a mall but I use the term loosely. I even consider a fight in a club bathroom as a street fight.

''No guns, knives, people jumping in, ''
'' The guys were going at it with their respective posse on opposite sides shout'ing out words of encouragement and advice''.
'' shook hands and everybody went back to their business''.
 It sounds more like Kimbo's  backyard brawls than a real street fight.

[pellius]

''No guns, knives, people jumping in, ''
'' The guys were going at it with their respective posse on opposite sides shout'ing out words of encouragement and advice''.
'' shook hands and everybody went back to their business''.
 It sounds more like Kimbo's  backyard brawls than a real street fight.

Their posse is just the friends they were with as they were cruising the mall including both males and females. And that's what's different between Hawaii and the mainland. People let fights go. They don't jump in and there's no weapons. Brasil is similar. There are times when two guys will meet to fight and sort out their differences but they would never, ever do it in a mall. There's a lot of other places where this takes place regularly and you don't have to worry about interference as you would in a mall.

I can't count the number of street fights I've witnessed. Never have I ever seen a weapon pulled. On the very few occasions when someone would jump in because his guy was losing
and try to attack the other guy, the crowd would turn on him. And he's wind up getting ganged up on.

[che]

And that's what's different between Hawaii and the mainland. 

I was going to say that ,
I like that , more honorable and less dangerous.

[pellius]

I was going to say that ,
I like that , more honorable and less dangerous.

One of the differences that I noticed when I moved to the mainland is that in Hawaii when you get your ass kicked you really don't think of revenge in the traditional sense. You're more like embarrassed and humiliated that you got whipped. If the fight was close you'd want another crack at it but it's not like in the mainland where they track you down and gang up on you for revenge or shoot up your house. Growing up you make some of your best friends in a fight. Last year I took a pretty good whipping. This was more of an organized fight where we hashed out our on going tension and resentment with our fists. It's all good now and I even go to his place to watch the UFC.

[BILL ANVIL]

One of the differences that I noticed when I moved to the mainland is that in Hawaii when you get your ass kicked you really don't think of revenge in the traditional sense. You're more like embarrassed and humiliated that you got whipped. If the fight was close you'd want another crack at it but it's not like in the mainland where they track you down and gang up on you for revenge or shoot up your house. Growing up you make some of your best friends in a fight. Last year I took a pretty good whipping. This was more of an organized fight where we hashed out our on going tension and resentment with our fists. It's all good now and I even go to his place to watch the UFC.

imo there is no better way to earn a friends respect than to fist fight him.

[Primemuscle]

imo there is no better way to earn a friends respect than to fist fight him.

Yeah, that's so high school. I remember how after a fight guys would become good buddies....like it was some kind of passage or something. If someone needs for me to beat the shit out them before they can become my friend, they can forget it. All this male posturing is such a pile of crap.

[pellius]

Yeah, that's so high school. I remember how after a fight guys would become good buddies....like it was some kind of passage or something. If someone needs for me to beat the shit out them before they can become my friend, they can forget it. All this male posturing is such a pile of crap.

No, it's not like you have to fight and beat someone up to become friends. You really think that's what I'm saying? It's overcoming and working out a conflict and an ongoing resentment. It's sort of like you get it out of your system. If both fighters show heart and courage you can't help but respect that. BJ Penn and Jens Pulver had a long standing feud and there was some real hatred between the two. It simmered for years. It took five years before they got to face off in the cage. They went at it, BJ won, and it was done. The hatred was so deep between them that I never thought they would get over it. But you could see it was gone. All that hot air was suddenly released. It was over. Time to start anew. Jens would later take a trip to Hawaii as BJ's guest and train with him. BJ helped with Jens' ground game and Jens' helped BJ with his stand up. 

Male posturing is a bunch of crap? A guy cuts in front of you in line and you call him on it. I'm not saying you threaten him but you give him a look, puff out your chest a little, try to look like you mean business, and politely explain to him that he must have made some mistake and was unaware that he just cut in front of you. Maybe you're at a party and some drunk is starting to get a little touchy feely with your girl, you look him right in the eye and tell him in a manner so calm that it seems like you are containing an explosion and say, "Come on, my friend, relax a little." Posturing is what all males of all species do. What do you do when challenge, insulted or offended? Slink away and hide in the corner? What if you're resting between sets on an exercise machine and some meat head says, "Come on grandpa, take your nap somewhere else. I'm losing my pump." Do you slither out of the machine with your head down avoiding eye contact and look for a treadmill somewhere in the corner and pretend that's what you were going to do anyway?

Posturing is how you demand courtesy and respect from others before resorting to a confrontation. It's what men have been doing since the dawn in time until this generation where all male behavior is now considered a negative thing. Boys can't even get dirty anymore without their doting mamas scolding them for still having the desire to be outdoors and rough house a little.   

[OneMoreRep]

What is the name of the Machado Black Belt?

Marcos Santos.

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[BILL ANVIL]

No, it's not like you have to fight and beat someone up to become friends. You really think that's what I'm saying? It's overcoming and working out a conflict and an ongoing resentment. It's sort of like you get it out of your system. If both fighters show heart and courage you can't help but respect that. BJ Penn and Jens Pulver had a long standing feud and there was some real hatred between the two. It simmered for years. It took five years before they got to face off in the cage. They went at it, BJ won, and it was done. The hatred was so deep between them that I never thought they would get over it. But you could see it was gone. All that hot air was suddenly released. It was over. Time to start anew. Jens would later take a trip to Hawaii as BJ's guest and train with him. BJ helped with Jens' ground game and Jens' helped BJ with his stand up. 

Male posturing is a bunch of crap? A guy cuts in front of you in line and you call him on it. I'm not saying you threaten him but you give him a look, puff out your chest a little, try to look like you mean business, and politely explain to him that he must have made some mistake and was unaware that he just cut in front of you. Maybe you're at a party and some drunk is starting to get a little touchy feely with your girl, you look him right in the eye and tell him in a manner so calm that it seems like you are containing an explosion and say, "Come on, my friend, relax a little." Posturing is what all males of all species do. What do you do when challenge, insulted or offended? Slink away and hide in the corner? What if you're resting between sets on an exercise machine and some meat head says, "Come on grandpa, take your nap somewhere else. I'm losing my pump." Do you slither out of the machine with your head down avoiding eye contact and look for a treadmill somewhere in the corner and pretend that's what you were going to do anyway?

Posturing is how you demand courtesy and respect from others before resorting to a confrontation. It's what men have been doing since the dawn in time until this generation where all male behavior is now considered a negative thing. Boys can't even get dirty anymore without their doting mamas scolding them for still having the desire to be outdoors and rough house a little.   

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[Natural Man]

One of the differences that I noticed when I moved to the mainland is that in Hawaii when you get your ass kicked you really don't think of revenge in the traditional sense. You're more like embarrassed and humiliated that you got whipped. If the fight was close you'd want another crack at it but it's not like in the mainland where they track you down and gang up on you for revenge or shoot up your house. Growing up you make some of your best friends in a fight. Last year I took a pretty good whipping. This was more of an organized fight where we hashed out our on going tension and resentment with our fists. It's all good now and I even go to his place to watch the UFC.

Sun makes people happier. The more you re exposed to sun the less you care. It affects biology. MAkes people want to reproduce more and do stuff that makes you feel good -music, outdoor activities-. Going inland where s there s less sun affects your biology, the chemical in your brains, especially if it is used to produce more "hapiness" for years in a sunny place.

My advice; stay under the sun. Fuck, swim, dont think.

[Tito24]

[OneMoreRep]

My advice; stay under the sun....

...until you develop skin cancer, become clinically depressed and then retreat into a very, very dark place.

I just had to uber, forgive me..
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[Natural Man]

...until you develop skin cancer, become clinically depressed and then retreat into a very, very dark place.

I just had to uber, forgive me..
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you better be stupid, ignorant, or/and believe in made up crap (whatever it is, religion, philosophy, work, psychology, soaps, drugs, steroids, gayness, bisexuality) than become really, really intelligent.

You re happy when you believe in something that will make you HOPE. It keeps you alive. Novelty. Meeting "new" people (following pre determined schemes subconsciously...repeati ng the story of your genitors). Not thinking about the fact that everything is only a repetition and that hapiness, justice, are empty concepts created by our biology to keep us alive.

So yeah, people better stay "ignorant", live under the sun, fuck , hunt, raise kids and not evolve. Evolution, "progress" leads to more struggle for survival and our own doom in the end anyway.

Only those who stop evolving and stick to a system that works for everyone -and dont allow their kids to flee it- can survive indefinitely. People who become "smarter" can only destroy the others and themselves once they find out there is no meaning in all of this.

Here, what you asked for.

[BILL ANVIL]

Sun makes people happier. The more you re exposed to sun the less you care. It affects biology. MAkes people want to reproduce more and do stuff that makes you feel good -music, outdoor activities-. Going inland where s there s less sun affects your biology, the chemical in your brains, especially if it is used to produce more "hapiness" for years in a sunny place.

My advice; stay under the sun. Fuck, swim, dont think.

For some reason this post makes me feel like there is a light at the end of the tunnel during these last moments of this bleak depressing miserable winter.

Thank you

[pellius]

Sun makes people happier. The more you re exposed to sun the less you care. It affects biology. MAkes people want to reproduce more and do stuff that makes you feel good -music, outdoor activities-. Going inland where s there s less sun affects your biology, the chemical in your brains, especially if it is used to produce more "hapiness" for years in a sunny place.

My advice; stay under the sun. Fuck, swim, dont think.

LOL! Good advice. Especially the "don't think" part. It seems like some of the happiest people I know are blissfully clueless to anything and everything outside of their MySpace/FaceBook world. Last week I read where Hawaii was rated as having the happiest people in the US. I don't know how they determine that but people here are different than in LA where I moved to after high school and lived for 20 years. But they've pretty lazy here and ALWAYS late. When you say meet me at noon that means in "Hawaiian time" as they call it here, can be anytime from 12:30 to just not showing up. One of things that most surprised me is how common it is that a person just doesn't show up for work and doesn't even call to say they'd be out. I don't mean it's accepted. Managers get pissed but you would think by the second offense it would merit a suspension or firing. You just get a mild dressing down if it becomes a habit and I assume eventually you'd get in trouble but sometimes I wonder. And when a person quits, forget about giving a 2 weeks notice. They just don't show up and text you that they quit. And it doesn't even go on their record and can still use the employer as a reference if they were a half way decent worker.

[pellius]

For some reason this post makes me feel like there is a light at the end of the tunnel during these last moments of this bleak depressing miserable winter.

Thank you

Well, it's not all peaches and cream here. My a/c in my truck is giving me trouble. Just stops for some reason and then starts up again. Sucks because it's always hot here. Sometimes while on GetBig sitting in my grass shack I have to even turn on the fan and point it directly at me.

The suffering never ends.

[dr.chimps]

Well, it's not all peaches and cream here. My a/c in my truck is giving me trouble. Just stops for some reason and then starts up again. Sucks because it's always hot here. Sometimes while on GetBig sitting in my grass shack I have to even turn on the fan and point it directly at me.

The suffering never ends.

Squad suffers every day you still live. So, you got that going for ya.