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Re: Obama's illegal war
« Reply #625 on: April 29, 2011, 09:04:10 PM »
You really take the piss for being the most uninformed douche bag on this board. Go ahead and keep comparing these Libyan rebels to the people who fought in the revolutionary war. You're just embarrassing yourself...not that this is new to you given that you're fast approaching Samson/Blacken laughing stock territory.

You truly are pathetically embarrassing. Give it a rest.

first off dickface if you had any common sense and understood the nuance of what I was saying you would know that I wasn't comparing the the two groups in terms of ideals or ideology....just simply in fighting tactics and war-winning capability....just using the analogy that revolutionary groups who appeared to be out-manned and out-gunned in history have won out over much larger forces....

of course my discussion was obviously too much for you to handle, dickface, so you've made yourself look ignorant again...my apologies for continually making you look like an ass.

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« Reply #626 on: April 30, 2011, 09:20:42 AM »
'Mission creep' is bad sign in Libya's civil war
Athens Banner-Herald ^ | Saturday, April 30, 2011 | Timothy Rutten




In the think-tank argot popular in foreign policy circles, "mission creep" is an idiom for one of the garden-variety mistakes most people were warned against at their mother's knee. Think "don't throw good money after bad" and you've pretty well got the essence of the thing.Predictably, though, mission creep is what's occurring in Libya. Each halting step the United States and its NATO allies take deeper into a morass none of them really understands makes it more likely that this ill-considered intervention will end in precisely the event it set out to prevent: Moammar Gadhafi's massacre of his political opponents.

That's because even the most enthusiastic of the strongman's foreign antagonists, France, is unwilling to commit troops to dislodge him from power.

Without foreign troops it seems less and less likely that an untrained, sketchily equipped, ill-organized and divided insurgency will overthrow Gadhafi, who has all the resolve of a man with nowhere else to go and the support of his tribal allies and the considerable number of Libyans who somehow have benefited from his misrule.


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« Reply #627 on: April 30, 2011, 09:34:57 AM »
'Mission creep' is bad sign in Libya's civil war
Athens Banner-Herald ^ | Saturday, April 30, 2011 | Timothy Rutten




In the think-tank argot popular in foreign policy circles, "mission creep" is an idiom for one of the garden-variety mistakes most people were warned against at their mother's knee. Think "don't throw good money after bad" and you've pretty well got the essence of the thing.Predictably, though, mission creep is what's occurring in Libya. Each halting step the United States and its NATO allies take deeper into a morass none of them really understands makes it more likely that this ill-considered intervention will end in precisely the event it set out to prevent: Moammar Gadhafi's massacre of his political opponents.

That's because even the most enthusiastic of the strongman's foreign antagonists, France, is unwilling to commit troops to dislodge him from power.

Without foreign troops it seems less and less likely that an untrained, sketchily equipped, ill-organized and divided insurgency will overthrow Gadhafi, who has all the resolve of a man with nowhere else to go and the support of his tribal allies and the considerable number of Libyans who somehow have benefited from his misrule.


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I agree with this..you finally post something that makes sense

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Re: Obama's illegal war
« Reply #628 on: April 30, 2011, 09:37:59 AM »
No - you just dont want to see the reality of the communist looter obama for what he is.   

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« Reply #629 on: April 30, 2011, 09:38:38 AM »
No - you just dont want to see the reality of the communist looter obama for what he is.  

Boom.

'Mission creep' is bad sign in Libya's civil war
Athens Banner-Herald ^ | Saturday, April 30, 2011 | Timothy Rutten




In the think-tank argot popular in foreign policy circles, "mission creep" is an idiom for one of the garden-variety mistakes most people were warned against at their mother's knee. Think "don't throw good money after bad" and you've pretty well got the essence of the thing.Predictably, though, mission creep is what's occurring in Libya. Each halting step the United States and its NATO allies take deeper into a morass none of them really understands makes it more likely that this ill-considered intervention will end in precisely the event it set out to prevent: Moammar Gadhafi's massacre of his political opponents.

That's because even the most enthusiastic of the strongman's foreign antagonists, France, is unwilling to commit troops to dislodge him from power.

Without foreign troops it seems less and less likely that an untrained, sketchily equipped, ill-organized and divided insurgency will overthrow Gadhafi, who has all the resolve of a man with nowhere else to go and the support of his tribal allies and the considerable number of Libyans who somehow have benefited from his misrule.


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This war is a disaster. What have we accomplished since getting involved? Besides arming, training, funding and fighting alongside the same people who have killed Americans and whose entire life revolves around destroying this country, of course. 

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Re: Obama's illegal war
« Reply #630 on: April 30, 2011, 09:39:48 AM »
Boom.

wheres the boom in that statement???....more like a "plop"

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Re: Obama's illegal war
« Reply #631 on: April 30, 2011, 09:40:42 AM »
wheres the boom in that statement???....more like a "plop"

"HAHAHAHA, 333'S ASS-KICKING OF ANDREISDAMAN CONTINUES"

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« Reply #632 on: April 30, 2011, 09:47:07 AM »
"HAHAHAHA, 333'S ASS-KICKING OF ANDREISDAMAN CONTINUES"

saying that Obama is a "communist looter" is kicking my ass????..you guys are really desperate which shows I've actually gotten to you :D

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« Reply #633 on: April 30, 2011, 09:48:29 AM »
saying that Obama is a "communist looter" is kicking my ass????..you guys are really desperate which shows I've actually gotten to you :D

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« Reply #634 on: April 30, 2011, 04:16:43 PM »
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Libya disabled children school hit in NATO strike
Reuters Africa ^ | Saturday, April 30, 2011 | Lin Noueihed
Posted on April 30, 2011 6:19:22 PM EDT by SunkenCiv

Shattered glass litters the carpet at the Libyan Down's Syndrome Society, and dust covers pictures of grinning children that adorn the hallway, thrown into darkness by a NATO strike early on Saturday.

It was unclear what the target of the strike was, though Libyan officials said it was Muammar Gaddafi himself, who was giving a live television address at the time...

The missile completely destroyed an adjoining office in the compound that houses the government's commission for children.

The force of the blast blew in windows and doors in the parent-funded school for children with Down's Syndrome and officials said it damaged an orphanage on the floor above.

"I felt sad really. I kept thinking, what are we going to do with these children?" said Ismail Seddigh, who set up the school 17 years ago after his own daughter was born with Down's...

There were no children at the school when the missiles hit early on Saturday morning, since Friday begins the weekend in Libya. Children had been due to come in on Saturday morning.

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Re: Obama's illegal war
« Reply #635 on: May 01, 2011, 12:24:00 PM »
Qaddafi Escapes NATO Missile Strike That Kills His Son, Grandchildren
Fox News ^ | May 01, 2011 | Associated Press
Posted on May 1, 2011 11:54:13 AM EDT by cougar_mccxxi

TRIPOLI, Libya -- Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi escaped a NATO missile strike in Tripoli that killed one of his sons and three young grandchildren, a government spokesman said early Sunday. Hours later, Qaddafi's forces shelled a besieged rebel port in a sign that the airstrike had not forced a change in regime tactics.

Though the deaths could not be independently verified, NATO's attack on a Qaddafi family compound in a residential area of Tripoli late Saturday signaled escalating pressure on the Libyan leader who has tried to crush an armed rebellion that erupted in mid-February.

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Re: Obama's illegal war
« Reply #636 on: May 02, 2011, 07:17:02 AM »










George 'TRI-G' Bush's illegal War

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Re: Obama's illegal war
« Reply #637 on: May 05, 2011, 04:20:09 AM »
The fleecing has stepped into overdrive. Libyan rebels now asking for $3 billion to set up their government.

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« Reply #638 on: May 05, 2011, 05:06:42 AM »
The fleecing has stepped into overdrive. Libyan rebels now asking for $3 billion to set up their government.

Tell them we are broke

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« Reply #639 on: May 09, 2011, 07:48:17 AM »
NATO leader: 'Gadhafi's time is over'
By the CNN Wire StaffMay 9, 2011 10:35 a.m. EDT
Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi stands outside a tent erected at his Bab al-Aziziya residence in Tripoli on April 10,

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(CNN) -- NATO's leader confidently proclaimed on Sunday that Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's days are numbered, but he couldn't foresee how long the alliance's grinding mission to protect besieged civilians will last.

"The game is over for Gadhafi," NATO's Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen told CNN's "State of the Union." "He should realize sooner rather than later that there's no future for him or his regime."

NATO's Anders Fogh Rasmussen on the endgame in Libya

Rasmussen, a former Danish prime minister, believes Gadhafi will be ushered out of power amid the "wind of change" sweeping across North Africa and the Middle East, and the dramatic military strides in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

"This week we have seen a major blow to al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden's evil vision of conflict as a means to create conflict between the Muslim world and the rest of the world. And in Afghanistan, the Taliban is under pressure everywhere, so basically I am very optimistic," he said, making reference to the killing of bin Laden by U.S. Navy SEALs on Monday in Pakistan.

The alliance has been carrying out a U.N. Security Council resolution calling for the protection of civilians from the Gadhafi regime by any means necessary, and since March 31, its planes have been pounding targets across the country.



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According to NATO's latest daily operational update, NATO planes struck several targets on Sunday, including an ammunition storage site in the Zintan region, tanks in Misrata and Ajdabiya, military vehicles in al-Brega, and headquarters compound buildings and ammunition and vehicle storage facilities in Hun, south of Sirte.

There have been widespread assumptions among experts that the conflict between pro- and anti-Gadhafi forces will continue to be a stalemate for some time. Rasmussen was asked when the NATO operation would be completed but all he could say was "it needs an end of the mission."

"We have defined three very clear military objectives," he said. "Firstly, a complete end to all attacks against civilians. Secondly, a free and unhindered and immediate access for humanitarian assistance. And thirdly, a withdrawal of Gadhafi military forces and paramilitary forces to their bases and barracks. When these objectives are fulfilled, our mission is accomplished."

He said "it's hard to imagine" that the "outrageous and systematic attacks" by pro-Gadhafi forces against Libyans will halt as along as Gadhafi stays in power.

He said there needs to be a political and not a military solution with a "peaceful transition to democracy" as Gadhafi leaves power.

But the conflict rages on. The Tunisian state news-agency reported on Sunday that 50 people were injured when government forces and rebels clashed near the Tunisian-Libyan border on Saturday.

Gadhafi's forces on Saturday bombed key fuel depots in the besieged city of Misrata, destroying six containers and causing a massive fire, a rebel spokesman said.

Meanwhile, in the de facto rebel capital, Benghazi, the Libyan opposition said Saturday that Italy has agreed to arm the rebels.

Abdul Hafiz Ghoga, deputy chairman of the National Transitional Council, said opposition representatives have flown to Italy to finish the deal.

The Italian Foreign Ministry categorically denied it will send weapons to Libya. A press office spokesman said Italy will only go as far as sending non-lethal weapons such as satellite and radar systems to aid the rebels.

The rebels, intent on winning on the ground without foreign troops, have been asking for arms supplies as the war rages in cities like Misrata.

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Re: Obama's illegal war
« Reply #640 on: May 09, 2011, 04:13:20 PM »
There's a war in Libya? Must have missed it due to the blatant MSM attempts to bury any talk about this for fear that their God-King will be criticized for being a warmongering twat.

Hi, Syria. 800 dead so far and rising!  ::)

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« Reply #641 on: May 09, 2011, 05:35:55 PM »
There's a war in Libya? Must have missed it due to the blatant MSM attempts to bury any talk about this for fear that their God-King will be criticized for being a warmongering twat.

Hi, Syria. 800 dead so far and rising!  ::)

again I asked you a long time ago what should be done about Syria...I can still hear hear the crickets

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« Reply #642 on: May 13, 2011, 09:01:14 AM »
Libya: An Ugly War Getting Uglier
Frontpagemagazine ^ | 5-13-11 | Stephen Brown




Libyan rebels scored their most important victory in the nearly three-month old uprising against Muammar Gaddafi, when they captured the airport in Misrata on Wednesday, virtually taking control of the city. Gaddafi’s forces had been besieging Misrata, Libya’s third-largest city, for two months and had driven the rebels into an area around the harbour, where they were subjected to constant rocket and artillery fire. Two Western journalists, one American and one British, were among the people killed by the heavy barrage during this time.

“The airport and its approaches were the last remaining pieces of significant terrain in the city to be controlled by the Qaddafi soldiers,” the New York Times reported.

NATO immediately followed up the rebel success with air strikes on Thursday on a compound in Tripoli. Three civilians were allegedly killed in the attack, but after a government-guided tour of the area, reporters suspect civilians are being used as human shields in the compound to protect a possible underground military complex.

The rebels’ capture of Misrata is important for several reasons. It is the only city the anti-Gaddafi forces hold in Western Libya and is regarded as the stepping stone to capturing Tripoli, Gaddafi’s stronghold. Located 130 miles east of Tripoli, a Misrata in rebel hands represents a knife at Gaddafi’s throat. Which is why the Libyan leader fought so bitterly to take it from rebel hands and why strenuous efforts may still be made in counterattacks to recover the lost ground there. But even if Gaddafi does succeed in containing the insurgents within Misrata, their victory will certainly add to the accumulating military strain on his forces.

Moreover, the rebels’ taking of Misrata is a huge public relations coup. In the eyes of the world, the battle for Misrata had become an important symbol of the anti-Gaddafi cause. Gaddafi is now seen to have failed to attain a goal he badly wanted and needed, and so close to home at that, while the rebels prevailed. Ultimately, if the rebels overthrow Gaddaffi, the Misrata victory may become for the Libyan conflict what Stalingrad was for the Soviets: a psychological and military turning point.

On the rebel side, probably their greatest advantage in breaking Misrata’s isolation consists in the fact they can now start to bring in food and medical supplies through the sea port for the city’s 500,000 desperate, suffering people. Only tugboats and a few Red Cross ships had risked making the trip to Misrata during the siege due to the danger.

Supplying soldiers and civilian populations, or logistics as military strategists term it, decides many wars, and some analysts believe this is what will determine the Libyan conflict’s outcome. On Wednesday, the rebels scored an important triumph in this area by opening an avenue to feed the people under their control in an important city.

Gaddafi, on the other hand, is facing a bleak future logistics-wise. Although Gaddafi’s army is believed to have enough weapons and ordnance for a year’s fighting, his ability to feed Tripoli’s one million people for that period of time is problematic. NATO has imposed a tight air and sea blockade around his stronghold. An extended period of suffering could see a renewal of the anti-Gaddafi protests the Libyan capital experienced earlier in the conflict that loyal security forces seem to have quelled. But when people become very hungry and unhappy, like in Tunisia, Yemen and Egypt, force will not prevent them from taking to the streets again.

While NATO countries are blocking Gaddafi’s supplies, they are helping rebel logistics significantly with shipments of food and aid to Benghazi, the rebel stronghold. The first American ship to deliver “non-lethal aid” to the rebels arrived in Benghazi this week. Among the items delivered were 10,000 ready-to-eat meals. Ships from other NATO countries have already made trips to Benghazi, delivering food and aid, while Qatar has been sending the rebels weapons, the only country reported to have done so. The rebels have asked NATO for better weapons but the alliance has been slow to respond. The United Nations has imposed an arms embargo on Libya, but some governments interpret it as applying only to Gaddafi.

NATO is also assisting the rebels logistically by unfreezing the $60 billion Gaddafi and his family had in assets and bank accounts in their countries. This money will be turned over to the rebels to help run the territory they control. One estimate is that, in the short term, the insurgent government in Benghazi will need $3 billion alone to meet their commitments. Oil-rich Qatar has already helped out with a $600 million donation. To further assist rebel finances, NATO is also allowing the sale of oil from the territories under their control in Western Libya.

Gaddafi is expected to hire lawyers to fight the confiscation of his assets, about $34 billion of which are located in the United States. This is not surprising, since there is an oil embargo on the areas he controls, and he has no other source of revenue. As time goes on, Gaddafi will need money more than the rebels. It is a matter of survival. He has to pay for his shadow army of 20,000 mercenaries, and mercenaries are expensive. They will only keep fighting as long as they get paid. It is not known how much cash Gaddafi had at the start of the conflict, but his financial resources are not inexhaustible. And wars cost money – lots of money. Secretary of State Robert Gates said on Thursday the Libyan conflict has cost the United Stares $750 million so far, and America is not a major combatant.

But Gaddafi is a ruthless survivor and knows how to make an ugly war even uglier. He is proving this by hitting back at NATO with perhaps the one weapon he knows the European Union countries fear: an unrestricted flood of illegal immigrants. By allowing a massive flood of refugees to leave from Libya to Europe, primarily to Italy and Malta, Gaddafi is not only taking revenge against NATO for interfering in Libya’s civil war, but showing them what will happen if he is removed from power.

Under Gaddafi, Libya had been the guardian of Europe’s gate against an uncontrolled influx of illegal sub-Saharan African immigrants. Libya had struck an agreement with Italy in 2008 to return such would-be migrants, which reduced the numbers reaching Italian shores significantly. Now, officials in Tripoli are reported to be deliberately sending boatloads of these refugees, who had been living both legally and illegally in Libya before the conflict and numbered about 1.5 million, to Italy and Malta. And since these voyages of desperation are often undertaken in overloaded, unseaworthy boats, they sometimes end tragically. Several ships have sunk before they could reach a safe shore, costing hundreds of lives.

Gaddafi knows he has to win this war or he and his family will die, which is incentive enough for him to fight to the bitter end. His defeat at Misrata represents not just a failure in this life or death struggle but also a sign of weakness, which is deadly for a dictator in his part of the world.

And as time goes on, the rebels will get stronger and stronger as NATO’s training efforts take effect, and their logistics and strategic situation improves, to which the Misrata victory contributed. The fall of Misrata into rebel hands may also have finally dispelled for NATO the notion of sending ground troops into Libya to assist the rebels, which the alliance almost did when it appeared Gaddafi’s army was going to seize the city. Even without NATO troops, though, the insurgents will defeat Gaddafi, but only after more months of hard struggle.

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Re: Obama's illegal war
« Reply #643 on: May 13, 2011, 10:17:35 AM »
At Deadline, U.S. Seeks to Continue War in Libya ( WarPowers Act Ends on 20th)
http://www.nytimes.com ^ | May 12 2011 | By CHARLIE SAVAGE and THOM SHANKER






Under the War Powers Resolution of 1973, a president must terminate operations after 60 days The Libya campaign will reach that mark on May 20.

-The administration apparently has no intention of pulling out of the Libya campaign

-One concept being discussed is for the United States to halt the use of its Predator drones in attacking targets in Libya, and restrict them solely to a role gathering surveillance over targets.

-Another idea is for the United States to order a complete — but temporary — halt to all of its efforts in the Libya mission. Some lawyers make the case that, after a complete pause, the United States could rejoin the mission with a new 60-day clock.


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« Reply #644 on: May 13, 2011, 10:27:16 AM »
Obama administration invites Libyan opposition to White House for meetings Friday
washingtonpost.com ^ | May 12 2011 | Associated Press




WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is stepping up its engagement with forces fighting Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, inviting opposition leaders to meet with U.S. officials at the White House Friday, while stopping short of recognizing their council as Libya’s legitimate government.


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Re: Obama's illegal war
« Reply #645 on: May 13, 2011, 12:55:26 PM »
WH: Libya mission to go on until Gadhafi stops
AP – A woman protects from the sun as a boy poses with a plastic weapon during Friday Prayer in Benghazi, …
By JULIE PACE, Associated Press Julie Pace, Associated Press – 1 hr 38 mins ago




WASHINGTON – The White House says the U.S. and NATO will continue military operations in Libya as long as Moammar Gadhafi keeps attacking his own people.

President Barack Obama met with NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen (AHN'-derz FOHG RAHS'-moo-sihn) at the White House on Friday.

The White House says in a statement that the two agreed that the NATO-led mission has saved countless lives.

Representatives from the anti-Gadhafi Libyan Transitional Council are in Washington to meet with U.S. officials at the White House later Friday. Obama is not scheduled to join them.

The U.S. has been increasing its financial support for the opposition, but is not recognizing the Council as Libya's legitimate government.



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Re: Obama's illegal war
« Reply #646 on: May 13, 2011, 04:25:15 PM »
WH: Libya mission to go on until Gadhafi stops
AP – A woman protects from the sun as a boy poses with a plastic weapon during Friday Prayer in Benghazi, …
By JULIE PACE, Associated Press Julie Pace, Associated Press – 1 hr 38 mins ago




WASHINGTON – The White House says the U.S. and NATO will continue military operations in Libya as long as Moammar Gadhafi keeps attacking his own people.

President Barack Obama met with NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen (AHN'-derz FOHG RAHS'-moo-sihn) at the White House on Friday.

The White House says in a statement that the two agreed that the NATO-led mission has saved countless lives.

Representatives from the anti-Gadhafi Libyan Transitional Council are in Washington to meet with U.S. officials at the White House later Friday. Obama is not scheduled to join them.

The U.S. has been increasing its financial support for the opposition, but is not recognizing the Council as Libya's legitimate government.



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There's a war going on in Libya? The MSM must not have time to fit in any talk about it in between swallowing loads of President "Gutsy Call".  ::)

1000+ killed in Syria in the last month. Still no documented evidence of massacres in Libya. PROGRESS!  ::)

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« Reply #647 on: May 13, 2011, 04:33:34 PM »
Check out my abbas thread. 

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« Reply #648 on: May 13, 2011, 05:18:28 PM »
NYT: White House searching for “plausible theory” by which Libya war won’t soon be illegal
Hot Air ^ | 5/13/11 | Allahpundit
Posted on May 13, 2011 8:21:15 PM EDT by Nachum

In an alternate reality where anyone still cares about Libya or the War Powers Act, this article is the biggest story in America today. As it is, the president concocts a half-assed legal dodge to avoid even minimal accountability in matters of war and somehow it’s not even on the board at Memeorandum.

Luckily, Congress doesn’t care either or else we might have had quite a tiff on our hands here.

The administration apparently has no intention of pulling out of the Libya campaign, and Mr. Steinberg said that Mr. Obama was committed “to act consistently with the War Powers Resolution.” So the Obama legal team is now trying to come up with a plausible theory for why continued participation by the United States does not violate the law.

A variety of Pentagon and military officials said the issue was in the hands of lawyers, not commanders. Several officials described a few of the ideas under consideration…

By ending all [drone] strike missions for American forces, the argument then could be made that the United States was no longer directly engaged in hostilities in Libya, but only providing support to NATO allies.

Another idea is for the United States to order a complete — but temporary — halt to all of its efforts in the Libya mission. Some lawyers make the case that, after a complete pause, the United States could rejoin the mission with a new 60-day clock.

I like the phrasing about how they’re trying to “come up” with a legal theory to justify a war a few days before the 60-day grace period ends, as if they’re some sort of high school study group brainstorming over pizza the night before a big class presentation is due. And the presentation doesn’t even have to be good — merely “plausible,” sort of in the C-/D+ range. Congress is famously an easy grader.

Hopefully the White House will have some fun with it, just to see how much crap Senate eminences like Kerry — who now admits the war is a stalemate — and McCain are willing to eat. The boldfaced logic in the blockquote is wonderfully surreal, for instance: If you take it seriously, that the president can wage war indefinitely without congressional authorization merely by declaring a formal halt and then a formal re-start to operations every 60 days, then the War Powers Act is a colossal joke. You wouldn’t have to go to court to try to nullify it on separation-of-powers grounds; it’d be effectively defunct, killed by its own weakness as Congress refused to support it. First the economy, then Bin Laden, now the WPA: Say what you will about The One, but when he wants something dead, he knows how to get the job done.

As for how long the mission will go on, apparently that’s entirely up to Qaddafi. He issued a statement today claiming that NATO bombs will never find him, but rumors are swirling that that’s not true.

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« Reply #649 on: May 13, 2011, 08:41:27 PM »
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Libyan rebels sold Hizballah and Hamas chemical shells
http://www.debka.com/article/20811/ ^
Posted on April 23, 2011 12:17:28 AM EDT by TigerClaws

Senior Libyan rebel “officers” sold Hizballah and Hamas thousands of chemical shells from the stocks of mustard and nerve gas that fell into rebel hands when they overran Muammar Qaddafi’s military facilities in and around Benghazi, DEBKAfile’s exclusive military and intelligence sources report.

Word of the capture touched off a scramble in Tehran and among the terrorist groups it sponsors to get hold of their first unconventional weapons.

According to our sources, the rebels offloaded at least 2,000 artillery shells carrying mustard gas and 1,200 nerve gas shells for cash payment amounting to several million dollars.

US and Israeli intelligence agencies have tracked the WMD consignments from eastern Libya as far as Sudan in convoys secured by Iranian agents and Hizballah and Hamas guards. They are not believed to have reached their destinations in Lebanon and the Gaza Strip, apparently waiting for an opportunity to get their deadly freights through without the US or Israel attacking and destroying them.

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