again so its clear,,what i said is that the numbers are achivable NATURALY ,,aside from quad mesurments,, but 183 5'11 is achiavable naturaly at 8% bodyfat ,,
in this case which is bordering due to information provided by poster,,on paper it look bordering,,but like clenest natural say after years of using hormones you learn how to tell,,
my PERSONAL intuition is that there is hormonal usage here,,reason is this:
the fella in picture look closer to 195-200lb and not due to illusion ....he is paralel to 5'11 fellas that are 195-200lb 8% ,,
skin is just too oily from within,,
the thickness of the delts including the SEPERATION OF THE DELTS FROM THE CALVICLE,,and the traps...all point to some type of homonization
again the numbers given are natural but the level of development is paralel 30+ year old bodybuilders who been on hormones 5-10 years and walking around 200lb 5'10 8% ....
it just something you learn to recognize but then again i need side picture to be 100% on it because the numbers given are achiavable by the best naturals,,it is just the over all thickneess in the delt area the over all level of bodyfat while maintaining this thickness,, it is just too good to be true,,and if this fella was natural he would haev stopped at noghitn and would become mr usa by going on hormones because this is surely more promising physiqe than peter putnam ,,
it is just picturs,,pictures are illusions ,,for final verdict a side picture should be shown
gh15 approved
