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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #75 on: April 23, 2011, 03:50:00 PM »
let me ask you fellas this question..

most are yapping he was in it for sex and bla bla..

Now if You were the father of that 15 year old girl, would it be "okay" then? I certainly hope you boys don't condone a 38 year old man preying on this 15 year old (irrelevant if you think she knew the deal or not)

I'm surprised it took someone this long to ask this question. Anyway, no I wouldn't want my 15 year old daughter having sex with a 38 yr old man and I also wouldn't want my 18 yr old daughter gang banging  three guys at once just because she "legally" can. But if I had to chose I would rather find out my 17 year old daughter was having sex with a 30 year old man she loved than being 18 and having sex with many partners. These two are married so let it be. Not saying it was right, but who's to say they are or aren't in love.

When I was a senior in high school during the last week of school there was this kid who at the time was either 17 or 18. Anyway, he went missing during the last week of school and so did the married 26 year old math teacher. Well these two fell in love and that was the last I heard until about a year ago I found out that they are still together well after 20 years. Guess you just never know.  

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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #76 on: April 23, 2011, 04:56:58 PM »
Any, I repeat ANY 32 year old man that fucks a 14 yr old girl needs to kill himself. To make it even worst, this Jason freak now says he loves her?? What an absolute pervert. Her dad should have him kidnapped and tortured.
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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #77 on: April 23, 2011, 04:59:18 PM »
Any, I repeat ANY 32 year old man that fucks a 14 yr old girl needs to kill himself. To make it even worst, this Jason freak now says he loves her?? What an absolute pervert. Her dad or mom  should have him kidnapped and tortured.

I'd rip his fucking sack off

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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #78 on: April 23, 2011, 05:01:25 PM »
I'd rip his fucking sack off

Word to ya mother on that.   Invite the pervert to dinner, get pervert drunk, cut off his nuts, tell the police he attacked you. You would get an award from the Mayor.
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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #79 on: April 23, 2011, 05:14:20 PM »
Word to ya mother on that.   

LMAO hello 1987

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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #80 on: April 23, 2011, 05:15:40 PM »
Any, I repeat ANY 32 year old man that fucks a 14 yr old girl needs to kill himself. To make it even worst, this Jason freak now says he loves her?? What an absolute pervert. Her dad should have him kidnapped and tortured.
Yah, thats really civilized behavior.  ::)

At least you revealed yourself as being a total sociopath devoid of any logic or understanding.

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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #81 on: April 23, 2011, 05:18:43 PM »
LMAO hello 1987

Worked with Rob Vanwinkle aka Vanilla Ice in 2004. Nicest, easiest going cat in the entire show. Remembered everyone's name, always said hello. Signed as many autographs as you wanted.
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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #82 on: April 23, 2011, 05:19:54 PM »
Yah, thats really civilized behavior.  ::)

At least you revealed yourself as being a total sociopath devoid of any logic or understanding.

That's not a very nice way to speak to me. I challenge you to a dual.

Obviously her dad ain't gonna kidnapped the pervert and torture him. My statement is hyperbole. If daddy did decide to grow a set and torture & kill the freak- he would do 3-4 years for manslaughter and come of of the joint a hero.
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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #83 on: April 23, 2011, 05:20:01 PM »
IF YAH DONT KNOW YOU BETTA ASK SUMBODAY

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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #84 on: April 23, 2011, 08:26:06 PM »

This scumbag made the Los Angeles Times today -

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-rape-marriage-20110423,0,655333.story



The criminal charges were disturbing: A Newport Beach fitness photographer in his 30s carried on a months-long sexual relationship with a 15-year-old girl after promising to help her modeling career.

Aiding him, prosecutors said, was the photographer's fiancee, who allegedly gained the trust of the girl's mother before delivering the teenager to photographer Jason James Ellis so they could spend time alone together.

Nearly three years later, as the statutory rape trial draws near, the case has taken a bizarre turn, with Ellis marrying his alleged victim three months after she turned 18.

The alleged victim has stopped cooperating, dealing a blow to the prosecution's case. Last month, the Orange County district attorney's office dropped all charges against Ellis' former fiancee, Michelle Hecker, announcing that it could not proceed without the help of the teen's testimony.

Nevertheless, prosecutors say they have enough evidence to push ahead with a trial of Ellis, 36, who has pleaded not guilty. The photographer, who bills himself as the "King of Covers" and shoots bodybuilders and other fitness models, faces up to seven years in prison if convicted of charges including lewd acts on a child and unlawful sexual intercourse.

The case underscores the unusual challenge prosecutors face if alleged victims and perpetrators wed.

Husbands and wives can refuse to testify against a spouse, but the privilege does not apply in criminal cases in which the spouse is the victim. Legal experts said lawmakers added exceptions to the privilege to prevent offenders from effectively derailing prosecutions by marrying their victims.

Complicating the case is the fact that California law prohibits courts from jailing sexual assault victims if they refuse to testify against their alleged assailants. But the law does not apply to victims in statutory rape cases, leaving prosecutors with a difficult decision in the case against Ellis, said Laurie Levenson, a Loyola Law School professor and former federal prosecutor.

"What you don't want is to look like you're beating up the victim. I don't think that a jury would like that very much," Levenson said. "But there may not be much to lose.... If the answer is that they had sex, that's the end of the case."

The alleged victim could not be reached for comment. The Times generally does not name victims of sex crimes.

Authorities say the girl's mother introduced her daughter to Hecker in 2006 at a Laguna Hills equestrian center. The mother asked Hecker to be a mentor to the girl, and Hecker encouraged the teen to consider modeling. She introduced the girl to Ellis in early 2007, according to court records.

That June, the girl's mother signed a contract with Hecker and Ellis allowing her daughter to work for the couple in return for Ellis taking modeling photographs of the teen. In November 2007, Hecker, Ellis, the girl and her mother took a trip to Paris together.

Around the same time, an estranged aunt of the teen called Newport Beach police and said she was troubled by how much time her niece was spending with Ellis and Hecker, according to testimony by a detective at the couple's preliminary hearing.

Newport Beach Police Det. Penny Freeman said investigators checked the couple's criminal history, found no record and felt they did not have enough information to follow up with the girl or her mother. Still concerned, the aunt approached a private investigator, who watched the girl for a week in June 2008.

The investigator's surveillance video showed Hecker picking the alleged victim up from school, dropping her off at Ellis' Newport Beach apartment or at the Fashion Island mall, where she would be greeted by Ellis, Freeman testified. One video showed the girl and Ellis eating lunch at a mall restaurant, kissing on the lips and touching affectionately, he said.

The private investigator, Thomas Martin, took the girl and her mother into the Newport Beach Police Department with the evidence he had collected.

Freeman described Ellis as manipulative and said the girl was naive and in love.

"I truly believe that [the girl] loves him," the detective said in an interview this week. "I don't know if it's a genuine relationship the other way around."

The girl told police that Hecker encouraged her to have a relationship with Ellis, according to Freeman's testimony. The teen said she had sex with Ellis, sometimes while Hecker was in the same apartment working on the computer or cooking dinner for the three of them, according to Freeman.

Ellis and Hecker were arrested in July 2008. When police searched Ellis' home, Freeman testified, they found two framed photos of the girl on his bed stand.

Shortly after the arrests, the alleged victim received a text message from Hecker's cellphone signed "J," the initial of Ellis' first name, according to Freeman's testimony. The message asked the girl whether her mother would consent to her marrying at 16.

Ellis' attorney, Ronald G. Brower, did not returns calls seeking comment. Hecker's attorney said his client had no knowledge of a sexual relationship between Ellis and the girl, and he accused the teen's mother of manipulating her daughter to implicate Hecker.

"She felt stupid and betrayed because she didn't see it herself," said Hecker's lawyer, Randy Collins.

The girl's mother did not return a message requesting comment.

In December, Robert VanHoy, an attorney representing the alleged victim, successfully asked an Orange County judge to lift a protective order preventing Ellis from having contact with the girl, who had turned 18 two weeks earlier. On Feb. 28, the couple wed in Laguna Hills, according to a copy of the marriage certificate.

VanHoy did not return calls seeking comment.

Orange County Deputy Dist. Atty. Drew Haughton said the alleged victim stopped cooperating after hiring her attorney. He described the teenager as the "linchpin" of the case against Hecker but said the prosecution of Ellis would continue.

"Whether they're married or not today," Haughton said, "it doesn't affect substantial evidence that there was an inappropriate sexual relationship between the defendant and a 15-year-old."


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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #85 on: April 23, 2011, 09:04:39 PM »
My Italian grandpa was 38 years old when he married my grandma( she was 15 ) , they had 13 kids , was my grandpa a pedophile   ???

uh ya!!! he was

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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #86 on: April 24, 2011, 05:57:00 AM »

This Jason guy is just trying to prove to everyone that he's not a total fag. (not that there's anything wrong with being one, of course) But even a statutory rape charge won't help him shake the bisexual label, which still means 'fag', something else he's obviously insecure about.

This is clearly a parenting failure, though.  The girl's father should've handled it 3 years ago. 

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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #87 on: April 24, 2011, 06:23:50 AM »
this sick fuck should be hung up by his balls and beaten like the fruity pebble pinata he is
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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #88 on: April 24, 2011, 07:05:56 AM »
How do you know what he said , were you there Ron?

                                                                                   

Dude step back and read what you're typing.  You are defending a guy that tricked an underage girl into having sex with him.  The age difference, whether you think is right, is too great and most importantly ILLEGAL.  What you are saying sounds like youd have no problem doing this yourself seeing as you don't see it as being wrong.  I'd have no problem doing life in jail if an asshole did this to my kid.  Even if my kid were in love with them. 


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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #89 on: April 24, 2011, 07:43:27 AM »
Dude step back and read what you're typing.  You are defending a guy that tricked an underage girl into having sex with him.  The age difference, whether you think is right, is too great and most importantly ILLEGAL.  What you are saying sounds like youd have no problem doing this yourself seeing as you don't see it as being wrong.  I'd have no problem doing life in jail if an asshole did this to my kid.  Even if my kid were in love with them.  

How do you know he tricked her  ??? , Have you ever heard of a 15 year old ,smoking pot,snorting coke and having sex with half of the football team?  If you have sex with a 15 year old in he US you are a pedophile but if you  do  the same in Italy, Iceland, China...........etc . you are not ?

BTW 2 years ago the Canadian legal consent age was 14yo, now they raised to 16 yo.


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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #90 on: April 24, 2011, 08:50:43 AM »
Again dude, you lack a basic understanding of 1) the Law, 2) Morals.  If you're over 30, or even over 20, and you slip down to sub 16, so long as thats illegal where you live, youre fucked up.  It doesn't matter if that said underage girl has done every drug in the book or fucked 350 guys.  The bottom line is that 1) its illegal, 2) you'd still be a complete piece of shit for taking advantage. 

If you think these girls are 'mature' because they've lived hard, you are an imbecile.  I watch as much porn as anyone else, so i'm no prude, but this is a very black and white case.  I hope you're just busting balls trying to look different posting here. 

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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #91 on: April 24, 2011, 08:53:42 AM »
How do you know he tricked her  ??? , Have you ever heard of a 15 year old ,smoking pot,snorting coke and having sex with half of the football team?  If you have sex with a 15 year old in he US you are a pedophile but if you  do  the same in Italy, Iceland, China...........etc . you are not ?

BTW 2 years ago the Canadian legal consent age was 14yo, now they raised to 16 yo.



Hate to bring politics into this, but those are liberal countries where almost anything is acceptable. Why do think in this country most liberals would find this acceptable and conservatives (most) would find this deplorable. Take a look at this thread for example, TA, you and others that think there's nothing wrong with this.

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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #92 on: April 24, 2011, 09:47:27 AM »

Mom and dad raised a fag-loving whore. 


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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #93 on: April 24, 2011, 10:32:06 AM »
Again dude, you lack a basic understanding of 1) the Law, 2) Morals.  If you're over 30, or even over 20, and you slip down to sub 16, so long as thats illegal where you live, youre fucked up.  It doesn't matter if that said underage girl has done every drug in the book or fucked 350 guys.  The bottom line is that 1) its illegal, 2) you'd still be a complete piece of shit for taking advantage. 

If you think these girls are 'mature' because they've lived hard, you are an imbecile.  I watch as much porn as anyone else, so i'm no prude, but this is a very black and white case.  I hope you're just busting balls trying to look different posting here. 

You are a brainwashed  idiot   ,I hope this helps.

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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #94 on: April 24, 2011, 10:33:15 AM »
Hate to bring politics into this, but those are liberal countries where almost anything is acceptable. Why do think in this country most liberals would find this acceptable and conservatives (most) would find this deplorable. Take a look at this thread for example, TA, you and others that think there's nothing wrong with this.
Name some non-liberal countries, Coach.

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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #95 on: April 24, 2011, 11:26:58 AM »
Name some non-liberal countries, Coach.

Saudi Arabia?
Iran?
Iraq?
Israel?

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« Reply #96 on: April 24, 2011, 11:37:49 AM »

Shortly after the arrests, the alleged victim received a text message from Hecker's cellphone signed "J," the initial of Ellis' first name, according to Freeman's testimony. The message asked the girl whether her mother would consent to her marrying at 16.


Looks like he may have been hoping to avoid prosecution by marrying her at 16.

" If either of you is under eighteen (18) years of age, you will need to make an appointment with a counselor, appear before a superior court judge, show certified copies of your birth certificates, and have one parent appear with you when you apply for the marriage license."

He knew exactly what he was doing when he "groomed" her so I hope the law is harsher in the US than it was over here in the UK recently.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1360514/Turon-Ali-groomed-girl-14-escapes-prison-Judge-says-hes-real-paedophile.html

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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #97 on: April 24, 2011, 01:59:55 PM »
Saudi Arabia?
Iran?
Iraq?
Israel?


Haha exactly.

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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #98 on: April 24, 2011, 03:19:58 PM »

 

No, we live in modern times.  We know what is right and what is wrong here in the US. 



In modern times girls are married off at 12 in other countries and here in the US, 25% of 11 year olds have already had sex.

14-15 is considered experienced "in modern times" in many places.

Why do you think the push for barely legal porn? The age of consent should DEFINITELY be 16 nationwide and go from there. By 18 many girls are complete whores and have slept with 15 16 guys. Not kids, GROWN MEN- it's nothing to hear of a 16 year old banging 25 year old men so come on.

And FWIW, a 32 year old banging a 14 year old does sound very strange and definitely a case of manipulation. I would stand behind him being tried and sentenced for statutory rape.

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Re: Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl
« Reply #99 on: April 24, 2011, 03:21:55 PM »
what a swell guy.  he'll be popular in the joint.