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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #75 on: April 23, 2011, 09:48:06 AM »
90's for 4 reps.
Never got to try the 115's because no spotters were willing to do a Kamali with me.
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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #76 on: April 23, 2011, 09:52:39 AM »
120s for 25 solid reps the other day. Have done 150s for 20 a couple yrs back but our gym only goes to 120s now.
Big weight plus high reps, great lifts!  I've been looking for your reply email, I can use some advice hit me up?

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #77 on: April 23, 2011, 01:30:11 PM »
Mesomorph is a natural. If hes used it wasnt much at all over a long time. Props bro.

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #78 on: April 23, 2011, 02:13:27 PM »
thanks
but Ive NEVER EVER used drugs.... and NEVER WILL



Cool. Anyone whos built real muscle from hard training knows your not full of shit. F#ck what gh15 thinks anyways he prob always had a chemical dependency during his time as a 'bodybuilder' and didnt build shit all without drugs.

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #79 on: April 23, 2011, 05:07:39 PM »
Lol@ naturals benching more and being bigger than juiced up pros....hahahaa

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #80 on: April 23, 2011, 05:14:26 PM »
thanks
but Ive NEVER EVER used drugs.... and NEVER WILL



Yes I see what you mean, Testosterone, HGH, Insulin, Adrenaline, all naturally occuring substances, no drugs.

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #81 on: April 23, 2011, 05:20:33 PM »
Ok can GB come up with some totals they think will never be broken by a nattie?

I think that in terms of absolute weight lifted 550lb bench, 700lb squat (number picked out of my ass) and 750lb dead are absolute max?

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #82 on: April 23, 2011, 05:22:33 PM »
E.g I know a 132lb guy who can deadlift almsot 500lbs but couldn't military press 120lbs

Whats stopping a 250lb guy pulling 750lbs?

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #83 on: April 23, 2011, 06:50:09 PM »
That's your opinion... And your untitled to it
But I am natural
I don't gauge myself on what anyone else does...
I find it interesting how you can sit probably 1000's of miles away from and tell me what I'm doing
So please tell me this please tell what numbers are natural so I can lose some muscle to fit the criteria
Some of you guys are really sad individuals. 
I've been here for years when I weighed 170 before I posted a pic and when I said I could lift this or that it's was BULLSHIT I've posted vids and pics to back up every claim have you ever even posted a picture???
This forum is just amazing at times thankfully their are a few guys here who actually do lift and contribute... And aren't here to belittle other people.
Bro - your numbers are getting up in the Coleman area - a guy who has abused hormones in high amounts and gh for years and one that is geneticly surperior when it comes to handling heavy weights - his muscle fibres are designed to move those heavy weights like he does - it's genetics but he could only do it with drugs , now you are claiming to be getting close to him naturaly ? c'mon dude - no doubt you do have good genetics for lifting heavy weights for reps but not without "support" ..


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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #84 on: April 23, 2011, 07:21:51 PM »
thanks
but Ive NEVER EVER used drugs.... and NEVER WILL



I recently decided to try some test and eq.  I quit after 6 weeks. I HATED seeing the needle slide into my delt,and outer thigh. Im not interested at all in doing it again.I gave the gear away to a guy at the gym that loves that stuff.   Like bill anvil posts said, I paid my dues with 20 yrs of lifting to get to 20" arms and now i have them fulltime forever even when i dont lift for months.
I dont care what others think about limits on size or weight......I just get it done.

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #85 on: April 23, 2011, 07:25:14 PM »
Bro - your numbers are getting up in the Coleman area - a guy who has abused hormones in high amounts and gh for years and one that is geneticly surperior when it comes to handling heavy weights - his muscle fibres are designed to move those heavy weights like he does - it's genetics but he could only do it with drugs , now you are claiming to be getting close to him naturaly ? c'mon dude - no doubt you do have good genetics for lifting heavy weights for reps but not without "support" ..



Will. How long did you lift being clean before you took some gear?  Ill bet you built your base quick on drugs instead of putting in 10 yrs of good clean lifting....

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #86 on: April 23, 2011, 07:53:14 PM »
I recently decided to try some test and eq.  I quit after 6 weeks. I HATED seeing the needle slide into my delt,and outer thigh. Im not interested at all in doing it again.I gave the gear away to a guy at the gym that loves that stuff.   Like bill anvil posts said, I paid my dues with 20 yrs of lifting to get to 20" arms and now i have them fulltime forever even when i dont lift for months.
I dont care what others think about limits on size or weight......I just get it done.

Yes yes I remember your pics huge guy huge arms
To be fair I have nothing  against anyone who takes whatever that's personal choice
But I know I can put my hand on a bible and swear I've never taken Anything ever.. Just sad that anytime I make a thread or post a vid or pic it comes down to this. Hence why I've not posted anything recent in 4 yrs.
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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #87 on: April 23, 2011, 08:00:34 PM »
Bro - your numbers are getting up in the Coleman area - a guy who has abused hormones in high amounts and gh for years and one that is geneticly surperior when it comes to handling heavy weights - his muscle fibres are designed to move those heavy weights like he does - it's genetics but he could only do it with drugs , now you are claiming to be getting close to him naturaly ? c'mon dude - no doubt you do have good genetics for lifting heavy weights for reps but not without "support" ..




...do you honestly think Coleman is the benchmark for strength
And do you really think I care what anyone else does. Coleman presses 200lb lbs12 reps  and looked like he could do more weight and reps... I stated I have pressed 160 for 10 not that matters but how are those even remotely the same... And as I said it doesn't matter. Coleman is Coleman meso is meso... I don't give a shit what his limit is eg look how many vids there are on YouTube with guys destroying columns bench... You guys need to step out of your tiny little world of bbing
Your sitting behind your desk accusing me of stupid shit out of ignorance or jealousy
If you were to ask me the

I couldn't tell you the name of a prohormone
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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #88 on: April 23, 2011, 08:13:18 PM »

...do you honestly think Coleman is the benchmark for strength
And do you really think I care what anyone else does. Coleman presses 200lb lbs12 reps  and looked like he could do more weight and reps... I stated I have pressed 160 for 10 not that matters but how are those even remotely the same... And as I said it doesn't matter. Coleman is Coleman meso is meso... I don't give a shit what his limit is eg look how many vids there are on YouTube with guys destroying columns bench... You guys need to step out of your tiny little world of bbing
Your sitting behind your desk accusing me of stupid shit out of ignorance or jealousy
If you were to ask me the

why do you think he is jelous of you ? ,,this is not understood to me,,you dont look anything like bodybuild ,,your look is more of a fitness model type,,you walk around 200lb 6-7% do you know how many 5'10 -5'11 fellas walk around 200lb 6-7 % ? they all on hormones like you ,,some use winny and nanadorlone phnyl prop,,some use trenbolona anc hgh with testosterona ...those are the ones who look more dense than you and thicker than you ....yet same  weight...


again so its clear,,what will grant say should get into getbig.com history of truth in your face because he says it as it is ,,what he says is gold when it come to you ,, he compare to colman because ron colman is the strongest bodybuildr to ever walk earth ,,yes much MUCH strongesr than tomas prince ....or tom plats or any of the other wanna bes,,

you are 195-200lb when 6% mesomorph ,,this is not something spectacular in bodybuilding,,yes to the average person in walmart americana you will look good and they will take second look and ask you if you drink protien powder and how many meals you eat a day...or how much you bench ,,but! in reality 200lb soaked wet at 6-7% is nto impressive in today bodybuilding,, even with the best symetry and proportions wich you dont have because you have no legs,,you are about 23 inch legs maybe 24 ....this is not even remotely close to  winner of big shows,,maybe locals but again your physiqe is type of fitness ,, you maybe now walk 220 9% but rest assure you are no more than 6-7% when sub 200 195-200lb and all that HORMONIZED! to some degree along the way


will grant is right absolitly right

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #89 on: April 23, 2011, 08:16:55 PM »
Maybe 1% of bodybuilders have a solid foundation, nowadays fewer than ever since we live in the era of laziness. It was different 40 years ago, people werent afraid of hard work. Being natty is great and its even better to know your physique doesnt come from a bottle, but people are always gonna accuse you of it regardless of what you tell them. Only the people that have done it themselves are going to believe you, and there arent very many of them.

The good thing about it is knowing that your muscles are real and will even be there if you take a month off from training. Again, not like anybody gives a fuck. The only one who really cares or knows is the beholder, sadly. Its a very lonely activity.

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #90 on: April 23, 2011, 08:21:16 PM »
Will. How long did you lift being clean before you took some gear?  Ill bet you built your base quick on drugs instead of putting in 10 yrs of good clean lifting....
12 years natural  ;) Before touching hormones - did do various prohormones like andro,norandro, 1ad etc then were banned here.

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #91 on: April 23, 2011, 08:25:07 PM »
Ok can GB come up with some totals they think will never be broken by a nattie?

I think that in terms of absolute weight lifted 550lb bench, 700lb squat (number picked out of my ass) and 750lb dead are absolute max?
I'll give you an example of a powerlifter I know that claims natural.

He competes @ 275, numbers are suited lifts.

Bench 535-550

Squat 771-780

Deadlift  665-680

And this is a 275lb man than trains specifically for strength.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #92 on: April 23, 2011, 08:33:50 PM »
Maybe 1% of bodybuilders have a solid foundation, nowadays fewer than ever since we live in the era of laziness. It was different 40 years ago, people werent afraid of hard work. Being natty is great and its even better to know your physique doesnt come from a bottle, but people are always gonna accuse you of it regardless of what you tell them. Only the people that have done it themselves are going to believe you, and there arent very many of them.

The good thing about it is knowing that your muscles are real and will even be there if you take a month off from training. Again, not like anybody gives a fuck. The only one who really cares or knows is the beholder, sadly. Its a very lonely activity.

I don't mind people thinking that... My job is not to convince anyone of anything... But when imbeing followed thread to thread by the same trolls accusing me of shut i have no earthly idea about ut gets tiresome..I've been here on these boards 7 years now when I first started posting I was 170lbs and over the years I've proved every claim made with vids or pics.  These guys who throw out there accusations not one single pic nothing. Now I've stopped posting pics or anything recent I make a thread state what I honestly lift ... There is a vid of me on here somewhere 3 yrs ago getting 160 for 8 or something like that.
And still the same people that follow thread from thread who have never posted nothing, still throwing out crazy accusations
Gets a bit tedious and tiresome after 7 years
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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #93 on: April 23, 2011, 10:43:43 PM »
I don't mind people thinking that... My job is not to convince anyone of anything... But when imbeing followed thread to thread by the same trolls accusing me of shut i have no earthly idea about ut gets tiresome..I've been here on these boards 7 years now when I first started posting I was 170lbs and over the years I've proved every claim made with vids or pics.  These guys who throw out there accusations not one single pic nothing. Now I've stopped posting pics or anything recent I make a thread state what I honestly lift ... There is a vid of me on here somewhere 3 yrs ago getting 160 for 8 or something like that.
And still the same people that follow thread from thread who have never posted nothing, still throwing out crazy accusations
Gets a bit tedious and tiresome after 7 years

You look like a stockier framed guy and what these guys dont seem to understand is that not everybody has the same frame size and genetic build. When I was in high school I trained with a guy who was 5 10 215 with solid 18" arms and calves. Big powerful hog farmer that rarely touched a weight, but he was real strong. Did 160lb barbell curls, said it was just like lifting a hefty pig lol. You look like you have a big frame and I know for a fact what big framed guys are capable of believe me. I currently train with a guy who was a super stocky 5 8 180 with short arms and huge barrel chest with a head and neck like a fire hydrant.  Hes compact as hell and was benching 315x10 with very little drug use over a 12 year span. Guy is just a naturally huge mofo.

And Ron Coleman has long arms and is naturally a smaller frame guy no built for bench pressing, so thats a stupid comparison. The point is the guys who are genetically huge to begin with are always going to be stringer than the small joint, skinny waist thin wrist aesthetic bodybuilders.

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #94 on: April 23, 2011, 11:19:02 PM »
You look like a stockier framed guy and what these guys dont seem to understand is that not everybody has the same frame size and genetic build. When I was in high school I trained with a guy who was 5 10 215 with solid 18" arms and calves. Big powerful hog farmer that rarely touched a weight, but he was real strong. Did 160lb barbell curls, said it was just like lifting a hefty pig lol. You look like you have a big frame and I know for a fact what big framed guys are capable of believe me. I currently train with a guy who was a super stocky 5 8 180 with short arms and huge barrel chest with a head and neck like a fire hydrant.  Hes compact as hell and was benching 315x10 with very little drug use over a 12 year span. Guy is just a naturally huge mofo.

And Ron Coleman has long arms and is naturally a smaller frame guy no built for bench pressing, so thats a stupid comparison. The point is the guys who are genetically huge to begin with are always going to be stringer than the small joint, skinny waist thin wrist aesthetic bodybuilders.

 my friend ,,thats not the point


his mesurement are not natural ,,and if it was the condtion would be of 15-20% for the most gifted genetic individual with the numbers he claim both lifts and actual diameter of muscle

you fellas need to understand  that back before gh15 was introduced to getbig years back....people would still pull shit and claim that they didnt even know what masteron was...one of the most important drugs in bodybuilder arsenal that all cheaters use and USE it greatly,,people back then talked about trenbolona like it was some poweder that is used here and there for cows and sometims for hardening lol the murderer was selling them bullshit about trenbolona made it sound like no one was using the shit that he considered made out of pellets but in reality he didnt say he ws swimming in trenbolona made out of POWDERS AND HIGH QUALITY POWDERS,,

do you see where im geting at?

back in the day before gh15 was introduced people still talked in terms of how much testosterona and if 230 mg is as good as 500mg ....no one talked in terms of real doses and type of poweders and quality of powders and final products,,no one said a damn thing about the combination of drugs needed for walking around conditioned at 190lb or over....no one said a damn thing because no one cared to share secret for why would they? if they giv esecrets then they wont be special ...that was the style of thought before gh15 introduction to the bodybuilding world back in mid decade of 2005 ,,that was also when most abused drugs and weirdo physiqes such as look wood and the other martial art weirdo cook  came to the surface...

ONLY WHEN GH15 WAS INTRODUCED only then people started to ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THAT A BODYBUILDER WITH OUT TRENBOLONA MASTERONA AND TESTOSTERONA WILL NEVER LOOK LIKE A BODYBUILDER! conditioned size come from very specific usage of specific drugs,,and no deca is not an excuse ,,im talkin  here CONDITIONED SIZE,,and for that and for passing tests masterona trenbolona ace and testosterona are the culprit of bodybuild for many many many years,,no one knew and the ones who knew HIDE IT FROM UP AND COMING BODYBUILDERS,,

no one even talked about the gh and its importance in taking one to the level past 200lb conditioned size....everyone back then talked about gh as fat burner but no one actualy talked about what it does specifically and how it work to create mutation ,,no one said that it is a must to use it if you want to surpass arnold size proportionaly to height ofcourse,,

it took the introduction of gh15 for all this to happen ,,it happened in stages,,and a fella like mesomorph kid is a disturbance ,,he distuebs this because either he lie about his mesuremenrts,,or about his body fat ,,or he just in a wanna be world of make belief,,i dont like my pupils to be lied to ,,i dont care how geneticaly blessed once is,,you do not gain 50lb naturaly from 170 to 220 and remain in mid singles ,,never happen never will happen ,,

mesmorph is the sin child of fellsas before like serge rest his soul that claimed natural....it is just poision to my pupils and to the bodybuilders of the world,,so i out it ,,and i put him in his place,,and when i didnt do it i have plenty of pupils who do

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #95 on: April 24, 2011, 12:29:42 AM »
besides he dont have the definition to be running anything he looks smooth and doesnt have that anabolic skin texture users have. Naturally big long arms, small waist wide shoulders and back small calves and mediocre legs. Thats what hes got with bigger stature since hes a brotha. And since when is 50lb of muscle impossible on a large frame?? You act as though hes shredded with sub 10% which he isnt, just a big strong guy and doesnt even have typical bodybuilder shape. crawl outta your fuckin cave and open your eyes.

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #96 on: April 24, 2011, 02:29:11 AM »
besides he dont have the definition to be running anything he looks smooth and doesnt have that anabolic skin texture users have. Naturally big long arms, small waist wide shoulders and back small calves and mediocre legs. Thats what hes got with bigger stature since hes a brotha. And since when is 50lb of muscle impossible on a large frame?? You act as though hes shredded with sub 10% which he isnt, just a big strong guy and doesnt even have typical bodybuilder shape. crawl outta your fuckin cave and open your eyes.

i seen the fella,,5'11 i seen him when he was 190-200lb he was down in 7-8%,,having small leg mean nothing lol plenty of bodybuold dont even work their legs ,,usualy locals but also bigger shows youll be surprised lol he is brother so what? 50 lb of LEAAN tissue is immposible on natural that start at 170....if he started at 137 coming out of highscholo and brought himself up to 180....yes believble and possible naturaly since i brought many up there with out any drug ,,thiose are the real cursed fellas becuase they are the true natural that eat shit on every liar scambag like nortom and the such....

i say what he said he was,,,he said 220 single digit ...naturally,,,he didnt say 12-13% 220 2which woudl be hormonize dtoo but atleast it would sound a better way out of his shit,,

do you even know how big is 220lb at 7%? or 8% ,,, you keep heqring here from bobbie chick that he won usa 197 lol  and you talk pro here,,then you got meso who say he is 220 and pretty much down in the singles bodyfat ,,dry and conditioned... umm no


im telling you once again there are no naturals with those numbers,,not his lifts and not his numbers,,IF WHAT HE SAY IS TRUE ,,if he truly is single digits and look like it...and sit 220lb at 5'10 he is HORMONIZED!

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #97 on: April 24, 2011, 04:41:24 AM »
Lots of liars in this thread.

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #98 on: April 24, 2011, 05:08:17 AM »
I'll give you an example of a powerlifter I know that claims natural.

He competes @ 275, numbers are suited lifts.

Bench 535-550

Squat 771-780

Deadlift  665-680

And this is a 275lb man than trains specifically for strength.


Some shirts literally add 100s of lbs to the bench press. I would like to think that drug free a HUGE man could press at least 500lbs. Deadlift is also very good though there really are people who pull more, lots of deadlift is leverage and long arms.

But also as far as I see Meso is not claiming anywhere near these numbers. Depends how good his shirtrs and equitmnet are I guess as well as his natural base/strength

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Re: Whats your Max dumbbell press
« Reply #99 on: April 24, 2011, 05:11:22 AM »
My old training partner pulled 660/300kg raw after 1.5 years training... (120-125kg bw)

Some people are built for deadlifting... I'm not one of them.