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« Reply #300 on: May 02, 2011, 05:41:24 PM »
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« Reply #301 on: May 02, 2011, 05:47:45 PM »
they should have buried him at GITMO!

Let as many people come to that "shrine" as they'd like!

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« Reply #302 on: May 02, 2011, 06:42:53 PM »
Dear Westboro Baptist Church, we have a funeral you can protest. It's near Pakistan, we'll help you pack, you're going to need your flippers. Sincerely, America   ;)
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« Reply #303 on: May 02, 2011, 06:47:40 PM »
Dear Westboro Baptist Church, we have a funeral you can protest. It's near Pakistan, we'll help you pack, you're going to need your flippers. Sincerely, America   ;)


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« Reply #304 on: May 02, 2011, 06:48:48 PM »
Dear Westboro Baptist Church, we have a funeral you can protest. It's near Pakistan, we'll help you pack, you're going to need your flippers. Sincerely, America   ;)


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« Reply #305 on: May 02, 2011, 06:49:04 PM »
The leftists who still want gitmo closed need to stfu.  I never had an issue w gitmo and or torture for that matter.  Considering the intel originated from waterboarding will you leftists be satisfied knowing that but for these techniques - we never would have gotten bin laden? 

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« Reply #306 on: May 02, 2011, 07:16:05 PM »
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Obama going to NYC to mark Osama bin Laden's death
Associated Press ^ | 5/2/11 | Julie Pace
Posted on May 2, 2011 10:17:26 PM EDT by Nachum

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama plans to visit New York City on Thursday to mark the death of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden. The White House says Obama will visit ground zero, the site of al-Qaida's attack on the World Trade Center, and meet with the families of those killed nearly 10 years ago. U.S. forces killed bin Laden during a raid on a compound in Pakistan where he had been hiding, then buried him at sea. Flag-waving crowds have been gathering at the lower Manhattan site of the attack since Obama announced bin Laden's death late Sunday.

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« Reply #307 on: May 02, 2011, 07:54:52 PM »
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From Start to Finish: How the U.S. Got Bin Laden
Townhall.com ^ | May 2, 2011 | Elisabeth Meinecke
Posted on May 2, 2011 10:50:13 PM EDT by Kaslin

 What happened in the takedown of Osama bin Laden was the pinnacle of years of intelligence work which included the CIA, the NGA, and the NSA, according to White House senior administration officials' reports which chronicle the details below:

It began with the CIA following leads on those bin Laden considered his closest. Detainees post-9/11 gave information on individuals who had been directly aiding bin Laden and his deputy after they left Afghanistan.

The detainees turned over one courier's nickname who featured a repulsive resume: he was the student of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and an assistant to Al Qaeda's former number 3, Abu Faraj al-Libbi. Even more important, this courier was one of few trusted by bin Laden and possibly was living with him and protecting him.

For years, however, the courier's real name and location remained a secret from the U.S. Then, four years ago, his name was discovered. Two years later, the U.S. also discovered his areas of operation in Pakistan, though his living quarters eluded U.S. intel, which in itself was a further indication to the U.S. that they were pursuing something worthwhile.

In August 2010, that home was finally discovered. It's interesting to note that the White House report describes the area as somewhat affluent and a place with much retired military. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Al Qaeda's #3 were also captured in settled areas of the country. The sight of the 3-story, $1 million living residence surprised the U.S.: it was on a large area of land, approximately eight times larger than the other residences there. It had 12 to 18-foot walls with barbed wire perched on top. It also had internal wall sections. Those who lived there reportedly burned their trash (unlike their neighbors, who put the trash out to be picked up), and the compound's entrances were two security gates. The 3rd floor terrace had a 7-foot privacy wall. It also had no internet or telephone service connected. The courier (and his brother) did not have an "explainable source of wealth." At the time it was built (2005), it was relatively isolated, but other homes have since built up close by.

Then U.S. intelligence discovered there was another family living in the compound in addition to those of the two brothers. This family fit the description consistent with that which the U.S. expected would be accompanying bin Laden.

But the U.S. wanted to be sure, so it conducted red team exercises and analyzed the intel from every angle. The results consistently pointed to the secret inside the compound being Osama bin Laden.

Meanwhile, the operation to take out bin Laden had been under preparation for months, with regular briefings for President Obama. In September of last year (approximately a month after the compound location was discovered), the president and the CIA began to work "on a set of assessments" that resulted in the U.S.'s belief that bin Laden could indeed be in the compound. By mid-February, the intelligence basis justified plotting a course of action for getting bin Laden at that location. From March 14th to April 29th, the president chaired at least five National Security Council meetings on the mission. He gave the final order for the now famous mission on the morning of April 29th (at least one American who probably wasn't watching the royal wedding live).

The mission that took bin Laden out was a collaboration between intelligence agencies and the U.S. military. A small U.S. team made a helicopter raid on the compound. The White House report details the dangers associated with the task: high walls, security setup, the relatively settled location, and it being only 35 miles north of Islamabad.

It took the U.S. team under 40 minutes in the compound to do its work. The only loss the U.S. sustained was one of the two helicopters used in the raid -- the crew members were able to board the remaining helicopter to get out. The total death toll was four adult males killed -- bin Laden, and supposedly the two couriers and bin Laden's son-- and one woman, who one of the men used as a human shield. Two women were also injured in the attack.

Bin Laden, who resisted the assault force, met his death in a firefight by the most well-trained military in the world -- a testament to the great country he tried so hard to destroy.


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« Reply #308 on: May 02, 2011, 07:58:23 PM »
I'm still calling BS on this one!

If Bin Laden is as guilty as America says he is, then what message is America sending terrorists?  That if you kill thousands of innocent American citizens, America will make a martyr of you giving you a quick and painless death and a nice quick burial in accordance to Islamic custom?

If Bin Laden is as guilty as America says he is, America should have wrapped his body in bacon and displayed it to the world for weeks.  That's the message that America should have sent to terrorists.  
That is exactly the message we are trying to give. It is called American Exceptionalism. We don't torture, we don't maim, murder, steal, etc. Sorry if you had some sadist torture scenario in your mind of some big hairy man shocking Osama's nuts with car jumpers.  :-\

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« Reply #309 on: May 02, 2011, 08:00:03 PM »
I never had a problem w gitmo at all.  That was another bogus issue by the far left crazies.
Yea... torturing is perfectly sane  ::). Douche

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« Reply #310 on: May 02, 2011, 08:03:36 PM »
That is exactly the message we are trying to give. It is called American Exceptionalism. We don't torture, we don't maim, murder, steal, etc. Sorry if you had some sadist torture scenario in your mind of some big hairy man shocking Osama's nuts with car jumpers.  :-\

I understand what you're saying, but to those who have the warped view of Islam that says it is supposed to be the world's dominant superpower, it really doesn't matter if we show Exceptionalism or not.  If their ideology is to kill, this won't change a thing.

To those who follow true Islam, this will mean something.
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« Reply #311 on: May 02, 2011, 08:04:33 PM »
It works. And I really don't give a fuck about these muslim crazies.

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« Reply #312 on: May 02, 2011, 08:05:31 PM »
I understand what you're saying, but to those who have the warped view of Islam that says it is supposed to be the world's dominant superpower, it really doesn't matter if we show Exceptionalism or not.  If their ideology is to kill, this won't change a thing.

To those who follow true Islam, this will mean something.

There also needs to be an understanding that we will hunt you down to the ends of the earth... While people say it doesn't matter... I call bullshit.

Fear is a powerful motivator.

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« Reply #313 on: May 02, 2011, 08:05:44 PM »
Yea... torturing is perfectly sane  ::). Douche

Any means necessary to save American lives.  If you don't believe that, this place isn't for you.

Should be go around yanking everyone's nuts with piano wire?  Of course not.  But there's context for everything.  In a case like KSM, it's more than sane.  It would be insane not to try to extract every single piece of information, by all means available.
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« Reply #314 on: May 02, 2011, 08:06:55 PM »
There also needs to be an understanding that we will hunt you down to the ends of the earth... While people say it doesn't matter... I call bullshit.

Fear is a powerful motivator.

Agreed.  Any the power of the sword is all radical Islam understands.  If they didn't have us for a target, they'd be killing each other.  It's been that way for 3000 years.
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« Reply #315 on: May 02, 2011, 08:25:42 PM »
Any means necessary to save American lives.  If you don't believe that, this place isn't for you.

Should be go around yanking everyone's nuts with piano wire?  Of course not.  But there's context for everything.  In a case like KSM, it's more than sane.  It would be insane not to try to extract every single piece of information, by all means available.
There are plenty of ways to get information from someone without inflicting pain.

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« Reply #316 on: May 02, 2011, 08:37:23 PM »
Aide who led to bin Laden was Kuwaiti-born courier

By ADAM GOLDMAN and MATT APUZZO Associated Press
Posted: 05/02/2011 07:21:12 PM PDT
Updated: 05/02/2011 07:21:14 PM PDT

WASHINGTON—Three U.S. officials say American forces were led to Osama bin Laden by his most trusted courier, a Kuwaiti-born man named Sheikh Abu Ahmed.

Ahmed was a shadowy figure for U.S. intelligence, someone it took many years to identify. For a long time, intelligence officials knew him only by his nom de guerre, Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti. The first indications about his significance came from CIA detainees shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Ahmed and his brother were killed in the same predawn raid Monday that left bin Laden dead.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.

http://www.mercurynews.com/natbreakingnews/ci_17978135?nclick_check=1

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« Reply #317 on: May 02, 2011, 09:11:33 PM »
AP: CIA Secret Prisons and “Harsh Interrogation Tactics” Developed First Strands That Led to Bin Laden

WASHINGTON (AP) — Officials say CIA interrogators in secret overseas prisons developed the first strands of information that ultimately led to the killing of Osama bin Laden.

Current and former U.S. officials say that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, provided the nom de guerre of one of bin Laden’s most trusted aides. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed’s successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi. Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania.

The news is sure to reignite debate over whether the now-closed interrogation and detention program was successful. Former president George W. Bush authorized the CIA to use the harshest interrogation tactics in U.S. history. President Barack Obama closed the prison system.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/121089124.html


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Going to be tough for waterboarding critics to celebrate Osama's death. 

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« Reply #318 on: May 02, 2011, 09:13:02 PM »
LOL @ the white house announcing the killing during Sunday's "The Apprentice", knocking it off the air.


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« Reply #319 on: May 02, 2011, 09:38:25 PM »
Going to be tough for waterboarding critics to celebrate Osama's death. 

Not a bit... I'm against waterboarding. Glad we got the fucker, but I'm sure we had other info aside from waterboarding to point to this compound.

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« Reply #320 on: May 02, 2011, 09:45:30 PM »
Was funny to hear the press secretary quote the 2007-08 Obama promising to kill Bin Laden in Pakistan if he could, etc.  Didn't hear any quotes from the 07-08 Obama about the authority to go to war after he went to war with Libya. 

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« Reply #321 on: May 02, 2011, 10:24:42 PM »
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Shortly before the November election, U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi spoke about the American effort to capture or kill bin Laden. "Even if he is caught tomorrow, it's five years too late," she said. "He has done more damage the longer he has been out there. But in fact, the damage that he has done is done. And even to capture him now I don't think makes us any safer."
http://articles.sfgate.com/2007-01-21/opinion/17227846_1_laden-bin-house-speaker-pelosi


"The death of Osama bin Laden marks the most significant development in our fight against al Qaeda," Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement. "It is a testament to the professionalism of our dedicated national security professionals that no American lives were lost in this operation.



“Though the death of Osama bin Laden is historic," she added, "it does not diminish our relentless pursuit of terrorists who threaten our country."
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/158633-dem-leaders-hail-historic-bin-laden-death-call-for-continued-vigilance

Is there any question this woman is a liberal hack? 

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« Reply #322 on: May 03, 2011, 12:26:03 AM »
::)

Shortly before the November election, U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi spoke about the American effort to capture or kill bin Laden. "Even if he is caught tomorrow, it's five years too late," she said. "He has done more damage the longer he has been out there. But in fact, the damage that he has done is done. And even to capture him now I don't think makes us any safer."
http://articles.sfgate.com/2007-01-21/opinion/17227846_1_laden-bin-house-speaker-pelosi


"The death of Osama bin Laden marks the most significant development in our fight against al Qaeda," Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement. "It is a testament to the professionalism of our dedicated national security professionals that no American lives were lost in this operation.



“Though the death of Osama bin Laden is historic," she added, "it does not diminish our relentless pursuit of terrorists who threaten our country."
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/158633-dem-leaders-hail-historic-bin-laden-death-call-for-continued-vigilance

Is there any question this woman is a liberal hack? 

Not a bit. She's a damn kook.

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« Reply #323 on: May 03, 2011, 01:49:14 AM »
That is exactly the message we are trying to give. It is called American Exceptionalism. We don't torture, we don't maim, murder, steal, etc. Sorry if you had some sadist torture scenario in your mind of some big hairy man shocking Osama's nuts with car jumpers.  :-\

LOL

Did I say anything about torture?  Can you torture a dead body?    ::)

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« Reply #324 on: May 03, 2011, 02:02:49 AM »
The important question to be raised is if any of our lives will be significantly changed by this or if the economy will suddenly recover; I think the answer is no; when real unemployment is no longer above 20% we can all rejoice.
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