Author Topic: DorianYates trains Evan Centopani at his Temple gym,May 2011 (Read 18463 times)

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #50 on:** May 25, 2011, 04:12:08 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on May 25, 2011, 04:10:31 PM

You have just proven yourself to be a complete fucking moron who knows nothing about bodybuilding. Dorian was weak? He was one of the strongest pros ever. Ronnie just happened to be one of the very few pros who was stronger than him. Dorian regularly did sets of decline bench press with 425 lbs for 8 super-strict reps. He barbell rowed 450 lbs for the same number of reps whilst keeping his back straight as an arrow. These are weights not far beneath what Ronnie used. In fact, Ronnie was only truly stronger than Dorian in the squat and deadlift, which is not surprising since Dorian didn't squat do to a knee injury he suffered years ago and he only did stiff-legged deadlift and not regular deadlifts. In the military press, bench press, barbell row, etc, Dorian used weights only about 50 lbs lighter than Ronnie's, and he used much stricter form. When you factor in cheating, Ronnie was probably only slightly stronger than Dorian in these exercises if at all.

And no, Ronnie wouldn't find Dorian's style of training a breeze. You keep talking about the much heavier weights that Ronnie used, but what you forget is that if Ronnie used strict form and rested only 40 seconds between sets like Dorian, he wouldn't be able to use the same weights he uses. Ronnie was notorious for using shitty form and resting several minutes between sets. Guess what? Dorian would also use heavier weights if he used sloppy form and rested several minutes between sets like Ronnie.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Bullshit...prove it with video.

Your love affair with dorian is very touching

el numero uno · « **Reply #51 on:** May 25, 2011, 04:12:52 PM »

Who cares about form or weights as long as is working for you?

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #52 on:** May 25, 2011, 04:22:43 PM »

Quote from: Groink on May 25, 2011, 04:12:08 PM

Bullshit...prove it with video.

Your love affair with dorian is very touching

Your love affair for Ronnie is even more touching, to the point of being gay. And I actually don't consider Dorian the ideal of what a bodybuilder should look like, nor do I want to look like him. Very few of my total bodybuilding posts are on Dorian despite the Truce Thread, and few if any people in this board knows more bodybuilding than I do. The only reason why I defend him is because he is the GOAT as far as professional bodybuilding goes, and I like to challenge and argue with morons who make ridiculous claims like yourself.

The decline bench press weight is straight from Dorian's book "Dorian Yates: A Warrior's Story". The barbell row weight is straight from a training pictorial of Dorian training with Michael Francois in FLEX where their final set is 5 plates a side for 8 reps.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #53 on:** May 25, 2011, 04:37:05 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on May 25, 2011, 04:10:31 PM

You have just proven yourself to be a complete fucking moron who knows nothing about bodybuilding. Dorian was weak? He was one of the strongest pros ever. Ronnie just happened to be one of the very few pros who was stronger than him. Dorian regularly did sets of decline bench press with 425 lbs for 8 super-strict reps. He barbell rowed 450 lbs for the same number of reps whilst keeping his back straight as an arrow. These are weights not far beneath what Ronnie used. In fact, Ronnie was only truly stronger than Dorian in the squat and deadlift, which is not surprising since Dorian didn't squat due to a knee injury he suffered years ago and he only did stiff-legged deadlift and not regular deadlifts. In the military press, bench press, barbell row, etc, Dorian used weights only about 50 lbs lighter than Ronnie's, and he used much stricter form. When you factor in cheating, Ronnie was probably only slightly stronger than Dorian in these exercises if at all.

And no, Ronnie wouldn't find Dorian's style of training a breeze. You keep talking about the much heavier weights that Ronnie used, but what you forget is that if Ronnie used strict form and rested only 40 seconds between sets like Dorian, he wouldn't be able to use the same weights he uses. Ronnie was notorious for using shitty form and resting several minutes between sets. Guess what? Dorian would also use heavier weights if he used sloppy form and rested several minutes between sets like Ronnie.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

from is relativedid dorian even squat
ronnie shits all over him training wise... stp being a fanboy..
try benching your 4 rep max and not locking out....
locking out = rest coleman trained harder that dorian by far.... no question

Largerthanlife · « **Reply #54 on:** May 25, 2011, 04:46:15 PM »

whats the point of working out with this guy once, obviously it is for attention with video, the two need to grow their hair out, I think both there hair together would equal about 1/4 of an inch.

cephissus · « **Reply #55 on:** May 25, 2011, 05:22:41 PM »

haha no kidding... and if they really cared they could just watch blood and guts. his training hasn't changed one bit since then.

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #56 on:** May 25, 2011, 06:15:49 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on May 25, 2011, 04:22:43 PM

Your love affair for Ronnie is even more touching, to the point of being gay. And I actually don't consider Dorian the ideal of what a bodybuilder should look like, nor do I want to look like him. Very few of my total bodybuilding posts are on Dorian despite the Truce Thread, and few if any people in this board knows more bodybuilding than I do. The only reason why I defend him is because he is the GOAT as far as professional bodybuilding goes, and I like to challenge and argue with morons who make ridiculous claims like yourself.

The decline bench press weight is straight from Dorian's book "Dorian Yates: A Warrior's Story". The barbell row weight is straight from a training pictorial of Dorian training with Michael Francois in FLEX where their final set is 5 plates a side for 8 reps.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

1: 170 IQ and that's the best you can do........parrot what i just said ??

2: Nice grammar........"genius"

"Genetic engineering" at it's finest

dyslexic · « **Reply #57 on:** May 25, 2011, 06:20:48 PM »

Hey Musclecenter,

How do you manage to stay on top of all this current event shit? Just the puter and YT or what?

I'm impressed (but that ain't sayin much)

delta9mda · « **Reply #58 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:05:49 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on May 25, 2011, 04:10:31 PM

You have just proven yourself to be a complete fucking moron who knows nothing about bodybuilding. Dorian was weak? He was one of the strongest pros ever. Ronnie just happened to be one of the very few pros who was stronger than him. Dorian regularly did sets of decline bench press with 425 lbs for 8 super-strict reps. He barbell rowed 450 lbs for the same number of reps whilst keeping his back straight as an arrow. These are weights not far beneath what Ronnie used. In fact, Ronnie was only truly stronger than Dorian in the squat and deadlift, which is not surprising since Dorian didn't squat due to a knee injury he suffered years ago and he only did stiff-legged deadlift and not regular deadlifts. In the military press, bench press, barbell row, etc, Dorian used weights only about 50 lbs lighter than Ronnie's, and he used much stricter form. When you factor in cheating, Ronnie was probably only slightly stronger than Dorian in these exercises if at all.

And no, Ronnie wouldn't find Dorian's style of training a breeze. You keep talking about the much heavier weights that Ronnie used, but what you forget is that if Ronnie used strict form and rested only 40 seconds between sets like Dorian, he wouldn't be able to use the same weights he uses. Ronnie was notorious for using shitty form and resting several minutes between sets. Guess what? Dorian would also use heavier weights if he used sloppy form and rested several minutes between sets like Ronnie.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

you are correct on most of this. Yates did do deads but not max out 1-2 reps. 6+ reps tight as hell. you did point it out though that Yates used big weights with very strict form and ronnie used big weights with loose forms.

delta9mda · « **Reply #59 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:10:42 PM »

what another getbigger said, watch blood and guts and see the weights and form. 405+ inclines for a perfect and slow 6+.

super strict no swinging bent rows of 415+ for another perfect 6+ reps.

6 plates(3 per side for those of you that are slow) mil press on the smith. we dont know the weight of the smith.

80-100 pound low incline flys.

i could go on but like i said, Yates perfect form with big weights and ronnies loose form with big weights. why argue this?

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #60 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:12:19 PM »

Quote from: Groink on May 25, 2011, 06:15:49 PM

1: 170 IQ and that's the best you can do........parrot what i just said ??

2: Nice grammar........"genius"

"Genetic engineering" at it's finest

Yeah, because attacking grammar is all people have left when they have nothing intelligent to say to their opponent in a debate. BTW, your grammar is far from stellar...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #61 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:16:32 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on May 25, 2011, 07:12:19 PM

Yeah, because attacking grammar is all people have left when they have nothing intelligent to say to their opponent in a debate. BTW, your grammar is far from stellar...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Yes but I'm not a douche pretending to be a genius...hope this clears things up a bit

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #62 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:27:33 PM »

Quote from: Groink on May 25, 2011, 07:16:32 PM

Yes but I'm not a douche pretending to be a genius...hope this clears things up a bit

Oh boy, so everyone with an IQ of 170 writes with perfect grammar all the time and never makes orthographic mistakes on internet message boards, huh? I am sorry, but intelligent people don't try to sound pedantic; they strike normal people as pedantic because normal people are not on their level. I never claimed to have an IQ of 170. That was a joke on Ross Erstling, but apparently you were too dense to figure that out. And I don't care if you guys think that I'm unintelligent, because I know that I'm not. And my opinion is the only person's opinion that matters. To me.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #63 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:31:05 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on May 25, 2011, 07:27:33 PM

Oh boy, so everyone with an IQ of 170 writes with perfect grammar all the time and never makes orthographic mistakes on internet message boards, huh? I am sorry, but intelligent people don't try to sound pedantic; they strike normal people as pedantic because normal people are not on their level. I never claimed to have an IQ of 170. That was a joke on Ross Erstling, but apparently you were too dense to figure that out. And I don't care if you guys think that I'm unintelligent, because I know that I'm not. And my opinion is the only person's opinion that matters. To me.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You're a dick

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #64 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:31:55 PM »

Quote from: Groink on May 25, 2011, 07:31:05 PM

You're a dick

Better than being a c.u.n.t like you!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #65 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:33:33 PM »

Quote from: cheftim on May 25, 2011, 07:19:33 PM

Dorian was King when I first started lifting. Still prefer his style of Training over King Rons. I only hurt myself after the Unbelieveable video. I'm pretty sure I've seen every Dorian video ever posted here in the past few years. I've never seen anything with him even close to Ronnies kinda power. If so? Please post the link.

Here's the Weak little pussy Dorian's "perfect form"

inclines with 425.....he needs help on the second rep LOLOL .....No Fucking Comparison

cephissus · « **Reply #66 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:34:58 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on May 25, 2011, 07:27:33 PM

I never claimed to have an IQ of 170. That was a joke on Ross Erstling, but apparently you were too dense to figure that out. And I don't care if you guys think that I'm unintelligent, because I know that I'm not. And my opinion is the only person's opinion that matters. To me.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

hilarious "joke"

delta9mda · « **Reply #67 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:40:48 PM »

Quote from: Groink on May 25, 2011, 07:33:33 PM

Here's the Weak little pussy Dorian's "perfect form" inclines with 425.....he needs help on the second rep LOLOL .....No Fucking Comparison

groink get real, the only assistance was on the 6th rep. if he bounced it off his chest like others he could have gotten an easy 10.

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #68 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:44:40 PM »

Quote from: cephissus on May 25, 2011, 07:34:58 PM

hilarious "joke"

Cephiseus, the fundamental problem with your solution is that you had the computer align the disks without factoring in that some of the disks spin counter-clockwise. The speed of rotation and the size of the disks is irrelevant, yes, but not the direction of spin. Read the problem again and reconsider your solution and you will agree with me.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #69 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:48:51 PM »

HAHAHAAHAAAHAAHAAAHAAHAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HERE'S "doz"

doing "strict" barbell rows.....LOLOLOLOLOL.

He's almost standing straight up and down,and moves the bar about ten inches... that's more of a shrug than a row where i come from. You fucking fanboys need to open your eyes. I can that with 315 and I'm natural. the man's strength is nothing special....considering the amount of anabolic agents coursing through his bloodstream.

The "myth" surrounding Yates' training is just another marketing angle....he's soooooooo intense.

Why, because he's ugly and makes faces when he's straining.....and there is an idiot yelling at him ?

Ronnie laughs his way through Superhuman workouts, he's trying just as hard...he's just not a wimp.

Anyway...here's mr "blood and guts"

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #70 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:53:43 PM »

Quote from: delta9mda on May 25, 2011, 07:40:48 PM

groink get real, the only assistance was on the 6th rep. if he bounced it off his chest like others he could have gotten an easy 10.

Please.....

How THE FUCK do you know how much assistance he was getting ? Ummmm, you DON'T

i can give plenty of help with one finger, and he had his hands on the bar through the whole set...someone touches the bar...it ain't a rep. that's universal in every gym on the planet.

I'm not even to address your "if' nonsense....

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #71 on:** May 25, 2011, 08:02:56 PM »

Quote from: Groink on May 25, 2011, 07:48:51 PM

HAHAHAAHAAAHAAHAAAHAAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HERE'S "doz" doing "strict" barbell rows.....LOLOLOLOLOL.

He's almost standing straight up and down,and moves the bar about ten inches... that's more of a shrug than a row where i come from. You fucking fanboys need to open your eyes. I can that with 315 and I'm natural. the man's strength is nothing special....considering the amount of anabolic agents coursing through his bloodstream.

The "myth" surrounding Yates' training is just another marketing angle....he's soooooooo intense. Why, because he's ugly and makes faces when he's straining.....and there is an idiot yelling at him ?

Ronnie laughs his way through Superhuman workouts, he's trying just as hard...he's just not a wimp.

Anyway...here's mr "blood and guts"

agree with a lot of this....
the whole dorian hardcore.... a bit over played he wasnt any more hardcore than any serious minded trainer...
and ronnie is a lot stronger no comparision...

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #72 on:** May 25, 2011, 08:07:22 PM »

groink is right... hand on the bar ... you didnt do the rep by yourself.... simple
his hand wasnt on the bar when dorian did 315 why because dorian caan do 315 comfortably...
im all for forced reps.. AFTER you get some reps BY YOURSELF... wouldnt catch me doing a set when the spotters hand is on the bar from rep one.... that means the weight is too heavy

body88 · « **Reply #73 on:** May 25, 2011, 08:10:17 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on May 25, 2011, 08:02:56 PM

agree with a lot of this....
the whole dorian hardcore.... a bit over played he wasnt any more hardcore than any serious minded trainer...
and ronnie is a lot stronger no comparision...

Agree, anyone can have 19 inch guns like you naturally.

Hard work!

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #74 on:** May 25, 2011, 08:15:43 PM »

Quote from: body88 on May 25, 2011, 08:10:17 PM

Agree, anyone can have 19 inch guns like you naturally.

Hard work!

19.7 cold