Re: THE ISRAEL LOBBY & U.S. Foreign Policy

[Firemuscle]

The real question I would like to know is how much of the countries wealth does that three percent hold, I have always found American foreign policy to be more of an issue of accumalating wealth with democracy the vehicle of the crusade, meaning I believe the USA foreign policy is built purely on wealth accumalation rather than what the democratic voters back home want.
From the embarssing ass kicking Obama got from Netanyahu i believe they muist hold a lot more clout than 3 percent of the wealth in the USA and in Israel.

 Definitely. Politics all over the word is based on corruption and short-sighted gains.

 Almost nobody is taking a longview. Instead they are just interested in what they can gain in the next year or two.

 "Democracy" is a bullshit word anyway. US democracy is actually a plutocracy. Anyone who thinks there is true Democracy, or a true Republic in the USA does not know the dynamics between corporations and politicians.

[lovemonkey]

We'll start with this and pick it up tomorrow. It's almost 1am here and 3 hours past my bed time. Good night!


Today, the United States and Israel are the closest of friends and allies. During more than four decades of state-building, Israelis have looked to the United States for inspiration, financial and military assistance, and diplomatic support. Americans, in turn, have viewed Israel with a special appreciation for its successful effort to follow the Western democratic tradition, its remarkable economic development, and its determined struggle against its uncompromising enemies.

This mutual admiration is hardly a recent phenomenon. The profound influence of Jewish tradition on the Founding Fathers can be seen in the American Constitution. Such influence should come as no surprise given John Adams' view expressed in a letter to Thomas Jefferson: "I will insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize man than any other nation."

According to Woodrow Wilson, the ancient Jewish nation provided a model for the American colonists:

    Recalling the previous experiences of the colonists in applying the Mosaic Code to the order of their internal life, it is not to be wondered at that the various passages in the Bible that serve to undermine royal authority, stripping the Crown of its cloak of divinity, held up before the pioneer Americans the Hebrew Commonwealth as a model government. In the spirit and essence of our Constitution, the influence of the Hebrew Commonwealth was paramount in that it was not only the highest authority for the principle, "that rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God," but also because it was in itself a divine precedent for a pure democracy, as distinguished from monarchy, aristocracy or any other form of government.

Jews also contributed directly to the revolution. President Calvin Coolidge paid tribute to their role in the War of Independence:

    The Jews themselves, of whom a considerable number were already scattered throughout the colonies, were true to the teachings of their prophets. The Jewish faith is predominantly the faith of liberty.

One original design for the official Seal for the United States submitted by Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and John Adams depicted the Israelites crossing the Red Sea with Pharaoh in pursuit and Moses standing on the other side. The motto was to have been: "Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God." Another seal was chosen, but the Liberty Bell does bear an inscription from the Old Testament: "And Proclaim Freedom Throughout The Land Unto All the Inhabitants Thereof" (Leviticus 25:10).

Although it took 2,000 years to resurrect Hebrew as a spoken language in the early twentieth century in Palestine, Hebrew was a prerequisite for early American scholars. Many universities required it in their curriculum. Hebrew was compulsory at Harvard until 1787. To this day, Yale's insignia has the words Urim V'Thummim (oracle learning).
America's Support for Zionism

American support for the age-old aspirations of the Jewish people to return to their homeland dates from the Colonial period when John Adams wrote: "I really wish the Jews again in Judea an independent nation for, as I believe, the most enlightened men of it have participated in the amelioration of the philosophy of the age." John Quincy Adams wrote to Major Mordecai Manuel Noah that he believed in the "rebuilding of Judea as an independent nation."

Not long after the Emancipation Proclamation, President Abraham Lincoln met a Canadian Christian Zionist, Henry Wentworth Monk, who expressed hope that Jews who were suffering oppression in Russia and Turkey be emancipated "by restoring them to their national home in Palestine." Lincoln said this was "a noble dream and one shared by many Americans." The President said his chiropodist was a Jew who "has so many times ‘put me upon my feet’ that I would have no objection to giving his countrymen ‘a leg up.’"

In 1883, Emma Lazarus, the poet whose words are inscribed on the Statue of Liberty, wrote that Palestine should be as "a Home for the Homeless, a Goal for the Wanderer and an Asylum for the persecuted and a nation of the denationalized."

In 1891, pogroms incited by Czar Alexander III provoked an outcry by many prominent Americans, including the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and Speaker of the House. Rev. William E. Blackstone and Cardinal Gibbons presented a petition signed by those who were concerned about the fate of the Jews in Russia to President Benjamin Harrison and Secretary of State James Blaine. They called for the first international conference "to consider the Israelite claim to Palestine as their ancient home, and to promote in any other just and proper way the alleviation of their suffering condition."

Why not give Palestine back to the Jews again? According to God's distribution of nations, it is their home—an inalienable possession from which they were expelled by force. Under their cultivation was a remarkable fruitful land, sustaining millions of Israelites, who industrially tilled its hillsides and valleys. They were agriculturists and producers...the center of civilization and religion.

We believe this is an appropriate time for all nations, and especially the Christian nations of Europe, to show kindness to Israel...let us now restore to them the land of which they were so cruelly despoiled by our Roman ancestors.

The signatories' idea preceded the first World Zionist Congress that adopted the program to establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine by six years.
Endorsing The Balfour Declaration

In 1917, Lord Balfour sent a letter to Lord Rothschild, president of the British Zionist Federation, stating that the British Government would facilitate the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine. President Wilson expressed his support for the Balfour Declaration when he stated on March 3, 1919:

    The allied nations with the fullest concurrence of our government and people are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundations of a Jewish Commonwealth.

After Wilson left office, his successors expressed similar support for the Zionist enterprise. "It is impossible for one who has studied at all the services of the Hebrew people to avoid the faith that they will one day be restored to their historic national home and there enter on a new and yet greater phase of their contribution to the advance of humanity," said President Warren Harding.

Calvin Coolidge expressed his "sympathy with the deep and intense longing which finds such fine expression in the Jewish National Homeland in Palestine."

"Palestine which, desolate for centuries, is now renewing its youth and vitality through enthusiasm, hard work, and self-sacrifice of the Jewish pioneers who toil there in a spirit of peace and social justice," observed Herbert Hoover.

Congress was no less sympathetic to the Zionist objective. One can look back to the joint Congressional resolutions of 1922 and 1944 that unanimously passed an endorsement of the Balfour Declaration. The House Foreign Affairs Committee stated in 1922:

    The Jews of America are profoundly interested in establishing a National Home in the ancient land for their race. Indeed, this is the ideal of the Jewish people, everywhere, for, despite their dispersion, Palestine has been the object of their veneration since they were expelled by the Romans. For generations they have prayed for the return to Zion. During the past century this prayer has assumed practical form.

Legislatures in 33 states, representing 85 percent of the population, also adopted resolutions favoring the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine. Governors of 37 states, 54 United States senators, and 250 congressmen signed petitions to the President.
The Campaign for Partition

In early 1947, the British, who then administered a League of Nations mandate for Palestine, decided to bring the question of how to resolve the dispute between Arabs and Jews to the United Nations. The General Assembly decided to set up the United Nations Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP) to investigate the cause of the conflict in Palestine, and, if possible, devise a solution.

The UNSCOP, composed of representatives from 11 nations, visited Palestine and found the Jewish community very responsive to its inquiries. The Arabs in Palestine greeted the UNSCOP with hostility and refused to cooperate. The Arab Higher Committee boycotted the Commission but demanded that the UN immediately grant Palestine its independence. As one author observed, the contrasting attitudes of Jews and Arabs toward the UNSCOP "could not fail to give the impression that the Jews were imbued with the sense of right and were prepared to plead their case before any unbiased tribunal, while the Arabs felt unsure of the justice of their cause, or were afraid to bow to the judgement of the nations."

One UNSCOP aide was particularly influential, an American named Ralph Bunche. Later Bunche would play a key role in negotiating armistice agreements between Israel and its neighbors following the War of Independence. In 1947, Bunche set up a meeting between two members of the UNSCOP and Menachem Begin, the leader of the Irgun Jewish underground. As he was leaving Begin's hideout, Bunche told the future Israeli Prime Minister: "I can understand you. I am also a member of a persecuted minority." Richard Crossman of Britain asked Bunche if his exposure to the Jews had made him anti-Semitic "yet." Bunche answered: "That would be impossible....I know the flavor of racial prejudice and racial persecution. A wise Negro can never be an anti-Semite."

The majority of the UNSCOP concluded after its investigation that the question of ownership or right to Palestine was an insoluble antinomy. Rather than try to solve it, they chose the logical alternative of partition, in which both Jews and Arabs would be given sovereignty in their own separate state.

The United States endorsed the majority report and called on the General Assembly to approve partition. Some dispute exists among scholars as to how vigorously the Truman Administration lobbied for the resolution. Nevertheless, ample evidence exists to indicate that U.S. influence played a critical role in securing the adoption of the partition resolution.
President Truman with David Ben-Gurion and Abba Eban

Less than six months later, Israel declared its independence and the United States was the first nation to grant de facto recognition to the new Jewish State—11 minutes after the proclamation. "I had faith in Israel before it was established, I have faith in it now," Truman said May 26, 1952. "I believe it has a glorious future before it—not just another sovereign nation, but as an embodiment of the great ideals of our civilization."
A Historical Commitment to Israel

The recognition of shared values has been a consistent theme in statements by American Presidents ever since Truman. John Kennedy, for example, declared: "This nation, from the time of President Woodrow Wilson, has established and continued a tradition of friendship with Israel because we are committed to all free societies that seek a path to peace and honor individual right. In the prophetic spirit of Zionism all free men today look to a better world and in the experience of Zionism we know that it takes courage and perseverance and dedication to achieve it."

"The United States and Israel share many common objectives...chief of which is the building of a better world in which every nation can develop its resources and develop them in freedom and peace," said Lyndon Johnson.

The roots of Johnson's feelings, like those of many other Americans came from the Bible. As he explained in a speech before B'nai B'rith: "Most if not all of you have very deep ties with the land and with the people of Israel, as I do, for my Christian faith sprang from yours." The President explained that "the Bible stories are woven into my childhood memories as the gallant struggle of modern Jews to be free of persecution is also woven into our souls."

Richard Nixon asserted that the United States stands by its friends and that "Israel is one of its friends." His successor, Gerald Ford, reaffirmed his "commitment to the security and future of Israel is based upon basic morality as well as enlightened self-interest. Our role in supporting Israel honors our own heritage."

"The United States," Jimmy Carter said, "has a warm and a unique relationship of friendship with Israel that is morally right. It is compatible with our deepest religious convictions, and it is right in terms of America's own strategic interests. We are committed to Israel's security, prosperity, and future as a land that has so much to offer the world."

Ronald Reagan was the first President to state explicitly that Israel was a strategic asset to the United States, a belief he expressed even before he was elected: "Only by full appreciation of the critical role the State of Israel plays in our strategic calculus can we build the foundation for thwarting Moscow's designs on territories and resources vital to our security and our national well-being." But Reagan also understood this alliance sprang from shared values: "Since the rebirth of the State of Israel, there has been an ironclad bond between that democracy and this one."

Shortly after taking office, George Bush said: "The friendship, the alliance between the United States and Israel is strong and solid, built upon a foundation of shared democratic values, of shared history and heritage, that sustains the life of our two countries. The emotional bond of our people transcends politics. Our strategic cooperation—and I renew today our determination that that go forward—is a source of mutual security. And the United States’ commitment to the security of Israel remains unshakeable. We may differ over some policies from time to time, individual policies, but never over the principle."

President Bill Clinton has taken the relationship to another level during his administration. "Our relationship would never vary from its allegiance to the shared values, the shared religious heritage, the shared democratic politics which have made the relationship between the United States and Israel a special—even on occasion a wonderful—relationship."

The Jewish population in the United States is less than six million; therefore, the political activity of Jews who view strengthening U.S.-Israel relations to be in the national interest alone cannot explain the depth of the friendship that exists. Fewer than 3 percent of the population could hardly have such a dramatic influence on American foreign policy. The U.S.-Israel alliance is rooted in shared values.

If one were forced to reduce the explanation for the unique relationship between the United States and Israel to one sentence, it was probably best expressed by Lyndon Johnson. When Soviet Premier Aleksei Kosygin asked Johnson why the United States supports Israel when there are 80 million Arabs and only three million Israelis, the President replied simply: "Because it is right."
  

You know a telling sign of a sheep is when said sheep never expresses any sort of thought process in his own words but rather via copy & paste.

[gh15]

america has no other friend beside isreal,,uk is in the friendship too,,but that is it ,,rest of the countries truly hate america and wait for its fall,,trust me on that MANY europians love it when americana fail ,,they enjoy every moment ,,they really despsize america they jut dont say it out clear like i tell you here....

europian and ofcourse arabs think americanos are obese,,they think americanos are whorish ,,they think americanos are drunk ,,they think americanos are bad parents,,they think americanos are dumb and dotn know a thing around them ,,they really dont like americanos,,they woudl stab americanos in the back any moment they could,,

arabs....well arabs is very interesting group of individuals,,

some arabs are ok ,,MINORITY,,they woudl live in peace and they woudl share the land over there,,but majority of arabs are fanatiks,,they will truly send their children to kill themselves,,they will truly put the bombs on their little bodies and send them to throw stone and then explode themslevs ,,,ofcourse the israel people became smart and block everything with the fence so now the arabinos are stuck and cant do nothing  so its not like 90s with suicide bomb in the bus like in irland etc,,

the problem is that many americanos do not understand what it is to be in a arab country ,,they do not get it ,,they do not understand,,the men nor the femals they just dont get it ,,

arabs will truly murder you with their own nife that they cut the bread in the morning ...if you gave shame to the family,,they will come to the daughter and will rape her ,,they will cum ....and then they will take her to the shower and murder her either by nife or strugling or cuttign throat,,or even stoning if they are old fashion ,,yes you hear this right,,

if you americana woman want to go out and  your man doesnt and you dres little slutty ,, you will be raped and most likly ganged raped first outside...and then when you come back home by your own blood,, yes you hear this right,,

and no im not old fashion i talk exactly how arab think ,,they just fanatiks ,,majority of them are fanatik,,

the arbs only know one  thing and it is POWER,,if you show them power like the way ireal finished them back in 1967 ,,,and in all other wars,,only then they get some fear and think many time before they start something,,they still start it but they know its a loss battle,,

now for the men among you ,,so you understand....if you go there and say what you write here ,,,lets say you go in syria or even saudi arabia ,,egypt  even jordan ,,any one of those places ...if you go out and talk bad,,there is 90% chance you will be murdered,,they will come to you take you,,put you in the middle of the circle and pull out a knife....and if truly relegious they wil cut your head right there ...the type of alcaida relsgious loonateeks,,if they are less relegious..you will be beaten up severly and then in most likelhood either shut in the head or just left to die in the street,,

mob mentality is known among them ,,they act before they think,,they are just ,,well its quite sad because some of them are very good individuals with brain ,,but they are swalloed among their majority of fucked up loonmaateeks who really really want americnaa and israel gone ,,ofcourse they wil never get it ,,the most they will get is losing more pieces of their own land,,

gh15 approved

[freespirit]

Hahahahaha, the Liberal band of short bussed idiots in this thread. Hahahahahahahahaha. Carry on, this is entertaining

I bet you're quite the window-licker yourself, shorty. 

[mass243]

Don't worry guys! When I get in power...

[Tito24]

great book , eye opening

[_bruce_]

Israel = triumph of the master race.

[Firemuscle]

"The Coach" thinks he can overwhelm you with some long-winded article of jibberish to justify his argument, but he does not realize that unlike him, you can actually read. He cannot defend or explain the article he posted because he doesn't understand it himself. Just some garbage "The Coach" grabbed off of google.

 That's what I suspect too.

 But i'll give him the benefit of the doubt and let him respond.

 Surely he must have SOME original thoughts about this?

[Firemuscle]

america has no other friend beside isreal,,uk is in the friendship too,,but that is it ,,rest of the countries truly hate america and wait for its fall,,trust me on that MANY europians love it when americana fail ,,they enjoy every moment ,,they really despsize america they jut dont say it out clear like i tell you here....

europian and ofcourse arabs think americanos are obese,,they think americanos are whorish ,,they think americanos are drunk ,,they think americanos are bad parents,,they think americanos are dumb and dotn know a thing around them ,,they really dont like americanos,,they woudl stab americanos in the back any moment they could,,

arabs....well arabs is very interesting group of individuals,,

some arabs are ok ,,MINORITY,,they woudl live in peace and they woudl share the land over there,,but majority of arabs are fanatiks,,they will truly send their children to kill themselves,,they will truly put the bombs on their little bodies and send them to throw stone and then explode themslevs ,,,ofcourse the israel people became smart and block everything with the fence so now the arabinos are stuck and cant do nothing  so its not like 90s with suicide bomb in the bus like in irland etc,,

the problem is that many americanos do not understand what it is to be in a arab country ,,they do not get it ,,they do not understand,,the men nor the femals they just dont get it ,,

arabs will truly murder you with their own nife that they cut the bread in the morning ...if you gave shame to the family,,they will come to the daughter and will rape her ,,they will cum ....and then they will take her to the shower and murder her either by nife or strugling or cuttign throat,,or even stoning if they are old fashion ,,yes you hear this right,,

if you americana woman want to go out and  your man doesnt and you dres little slutty ,, you will be raped and most likly ganged raped first outside...and then when you come back home by your own blood,, yes you hear this right,,

and no im not old fashion i talk exactly how arab think ,,they just fanatiks ,,majority of them are fanatik,,

the arbs only know one  thing and it is POWER,,if you show them power like the way ireal finished them back in 1967 ,,,and in all other wars,,only then they get some fear and think many time before they start something,,they still start it but they know its a loss battle,,
now for the men among you ,,so you understand....if you go there and say what you write here ,,,lets say you go in syria or even saudi arabia ,,egypt  even jordan ,,any one of those places ...if you go out and talk bad,,there is 90% chance you will be murdered,,they will come to you take you,,put you in the middle of the circle and pull out a knife....and if truly relegious they wil cut your head right there ...the type of alcaida relsgious loonateeks,,if they are less relegious..you will be beaten up severly and then in most likelhood either shut in the head or just left to die in the street,,

mob mentality is known among them ,,they act before they think,,they are just ,,well its quite sad because some of them are very good individuals with brain ,,but they are swalloed among their majority of fucked up loonmaateeks who really really want americnaa and israel gone ,,ofcourse they wil never get it ,,the most they will get is losing more pieces of their own land,,

gh15 approved

 It's official.

 gh15 is NOT Nasser 

[_bruce_]

america has no other friend beside isreal,,uk is in the friendship too,,but that is it ,,rest of the countries truly hate america and wait for its fall,,trust me on that MANY europians love it when americana fail ,,they enjoy every moment ,,they really despsize america they jut dont say it out clear like i tell you here....

europian and ofcourse arabs think americanos are obese,,they think americanos are whorish ,,they think americanos are drunk ,,they think americanos are bad parents,,they think americanos are dumb and dotn know a thing around them ,,they really dont like americanos,,they woudl stab americanos in the back any moment they could,,

arabs....well arabs is very interesting group of individuals,,

some arabs are ok ,,MINORITY,,they woudl live in peace and they woudl share the land over there,,but majority of arabs are fanatiks,,they will truly send their children to kill themselves,,they will truly put the bombs on their little bodies and send them to throw stone and then explode themslevs ,,,ofcourse the israel people became smart and block everything with the fence so now the arabinos are stuck and cant do nothing  so its not like 90s with suicide bomb in the bus like in irland etc,,

the problem is that many americanos do not understand what it is to be in a arab country ,,they do not get it ,,they do not understand,,the men nor the femals they just dont get it ,,

arabs will truly murder you with their own nife that they cut the bread in the morning ...if you gave shame to the family,,they will come to the daughter and will rape her ,,they will cum ....and then they will take her to the shower and murder her either by nife or strugling or cuttign throat,,or even stoning if they are old fashion ,,yes you hear this right,,

if you americana woman want to go out and  your man doesnt and you dres little slutty ,, you will be raped and most likly ganged raped first outside...and then when you come back home by your own blood,, yes you hear this right,,

and no im not old fashion i talk exactly how arab think ,,they just fanatiks ,,majority of them are fanatik,,

the arbs only know one  thing and it is POWER,,if you show them power like the way ireal finished them back in 1967 ,,,and in all other wars,,only then they get some fear and think many time before they start something,,they still start it but they know its a loss battle,,

now for the men among you ,,so you understand....if you go there and say what you write here ,,,lets say you go in syria or even saudi arabia ,,egypt  even jordan ,,any one of those places ...if you go out and talk bad,,there is 90% chance you will be murdered,,they will come to you take you,,put you in the middle of the circle and pull out a knife....and if truly relegious they wil cut your head right there ...the type of alcaida relsgious loonateeks,,if they are less relegious..you will be beaten up severly and then in most likelhood either shut in the head or just left to die in the street,,

mob mentality is known among them ,,they act before they think,,they are just ,,well its quite sad because some of them are very good individuals with brain ,,but they are swalloed among their majority of fucked up loonmaateeks who really really want americnaa and israel gone ,,ofcourse they wil never get it ,,the most they will get is losing more pieces of their own land,,

gh15 approved

Great post.

[mass243]

LOL gh15 is clearly wrong here.

I don't think people widely hate America anywhere else than in arabic countries and in North Korea.
Hahahh, I saw a document about NK... one dude praised their dear leader and swore to kill every americano he ever sees by his bare hands - that's commitment, especially when considered he probably never will see americano, Brutal 

But in Europe... WTF are you talkin' gh15? Barely no one gives a shit about America - and at least do not hate them LOL
Where you got that idea?

[WillGrant]

Please don't say you support Israel for religious reasons.....

Coach is the guy that does circumcisions  for the jewish folk in his city, of course he supports Israel as they feed him plenty of little boys cocks to fondle - truth

[Tito24]

Coach is the guy that does circumcisions  for the jewish folk in his city, of course he supports Israel as they feed him plenty of little boys cocks to fondle - truth

you cant take coach seriously, he can shake hands with talibani nutjobs if it was for their mediaeval views on life.

[Firemuscle]

LOL gh15 is clearly wrong here.

I don't think people widely hate America anywhere else than in arabic countries and in North Korea.
Hahahh, I saw a document about NK... one dude praised their dear leader and swore to kill every americano he ever sees by his bare hands - that's commitment, especially when considered he probably never will see americano, Brutal 

But in Europe... WTF are you talkin' gh15? Barely no one gives a shit about America - and at least do not hate them LOL
Where you got that idea?

 I agree. Lots of people just hate the "stereotypical" Americans.

 If you're walking around being loud and annoying, acting like you have something to prove nd looking rowdy, and carrying yourself like a dumbass, then they'll hate you.

 But if you are cool and act nice most people will treat an American with a lot of respect.

 Most people just treat other on an individual basis instead of judging you by your nationality.

[WillGrant]

you cant take coach seriously,

QFT 

[Tito24]

if it was for coach we would still be scratching around in caves

[Skeletor]

Coach is the guy that does circumcisions  for the jewish folk in his city, of course he supports Israel as they feed him plenty of little boys cocks to fondle - truth

Lol

[Maldoror]

Great post.

x2. The Palestinians deserve fair treatment -- but shouldn't get a state until they show that they can manage one. In the meantime, Israel on the right side of this conflict, and should be supported as a friend and longtime ally.

[Grape Ape]

That's what I suspect too.

 But i'll give him the benefit of the doubt and let him respond.

 Surely he must have SOME original thoughts about this?

So the OP starts with a cut and paste and youtube video but the Coach is required to have the original thoughts?

Here's all you need to know about Benny - he knows shit about shit, and only what he reads.   When asked to actually answer something this is how it goes:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=375180.0

[Firemuscle]

So the OP starts with a cut and paste and youtube video but the Coach is required to have the original thoughts?

Here's all you need to know about Benny - he knows shit about shit, and only what he reads.   When asked to actually answer something this is how it goes:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=375180.0

 I actually didn't even watch the OP vid. I just read all the responses and got the jist of it.

 Coach doesn't have to be original really. I'd just like him to respond to the points I made about the article he posted though, which would require him to actually type out of his own brain a bit.

[Largerthanlife]

wake up people, time to shed them off our backs.

[Largerthanlife]

america has no other friend beside isreal,,uk is in the friendship too,,but that is it ,,rest of the countries truly hate america and wait for its fall,,trust me on that MANY europians love it when americana fail ,,they enjoy every moment ,,they really despsize america they jut dont say it out clear like i tell you here....

europian and ofcourse arabs think americanos are obese,,they think americanos are whorish ,,they think americanos are drunk ,,they think americanos are bad parents,,they think americanos are dumb and dotn know a thing around them ,,they really dont like americanos,,they woudl stab americanos in the back any moment they could,,

arabs....well arabs is very interesting group of individuals,,

some arabs are ok ,,MINORITY,,they woudl live in peace and they woudl share the land over there,,but majority of arabs are fanatiks,,they will truly send their children to kill themselves,,they will truly put the bombs on their little bodies and send them to throw stone and then explode themslevs ,,,ofcourse the israel people became smart and block everything with the fence so now the arabinos are stuck and cant do nothing  so its not like 90s with suicide bomb in the bus like in irland etc,,

the problem is that many americanos do not understand what it is to be in a arab country ,,they do not get it ,,they do not understand,,the men nor the femals they just dont get it ,,

arabs will truly murder you with their own nife that they cut the bread in the morning ...if you gave shame to the family,,they will come to the daughter and will rape her ,,they will cum ....and then they will take her to the shower and murder her either by nife or strugling or cuttign throat,,or even stoning if they are old fashion ,,yes you hear this right,,

if you americana woman want to go out and  your man doesnt and you dres little slutty ,, you will be raped and most likly ganged raped first outside...and then when you come back home by your own blood,, yes you hear this right,,

and no im not old fashion i talk exactly how arab think ,,they just fanatiks ,,majority of them are fanatik,,

the arbs only know one  thing and it is POWER,,if you show them power like the way ireal finished them back in 1967 ,,,and in all other wars,,only then they get some fear and think many time before they start something,,they still start it but they know its a loss battle,,

now for the men among you ,,so you understand....if you go there and say what you write here ,,,lets say you go in syria or even saudi arabia ,,egypt  even jordan ,,any one of those places ...if you go out and talk bad,,there is 90% chance you will be murdered,,they will come to you take you,,put you in the middle of the circle and pull out a knife....and if truly relegious they wil cut your head right there ...the type of alcaida relsgious loonateeks,,if they are less relegious..you will be beaten up severly and then in most likelhood either shut in the head or just left to die in the street,,

mob mentality is known among them ,,they act before they think,,they are just ,,well its quite sad because some of them are very good individuals with brain ,,but they are swalloed among their majority of fucked up loonmaateeks who really really want americnaa and israel gone ,,ofcourse they wil never get it ,,the most they will get is losing more pieces of their own land,,

gh15 approved

israel is not a friend LOL, they would not help us if we got in war, they did not help us in iraq, they did not help in afghanistan, they did not help in libya, they did not help in vietnam, no friend at all, just moochers.

[Soul Crusher]

Yeah let's cozy up to north korea. Syria, iran, nigeria, and venezulea instead. 

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israel is not a friend LOL, they would not help us if we got in war, they did not help us in iraq, they did not help in afghanistan, they did not help in libya, they did not help in vietnam, no friend at all, just moochers.

They have helped with Iraq and Afghanistan, don't know about Libya.

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They have helped with Iraq and Afghanistan, don't know about Libya.

They WANTED us to start a way in Iraq.