Natural bodybuilding goals, let's get real here

[gh15]

You must have awful genetics if you think that needs hormones.

oh ,, LOTS of hormones,,and long time on them ,,top npc leverl hormones,,not just playing with them ,,deep deep deep in them,,practically addict

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[gh15]

Women don't give a shit about physiques short of being lean and muscular.

i suggest you go to test this,,try to get out of gym with no shirt on when you have juiced lean and thick physiqe 30 inch waist abs,,wide cannon ball delts...chest to dream of ,,arms ,,go out of that gym and see the responds from whores around ,,do it in a party colege city....tell your true natural bud to do it with you ,,see what the whores tell and to who ,,see how othey act like their pussy wants you right then and now,,see who they scream their phone numbers at,,

have a pen though! youll need it,,well in your generation nothigness...have the phone ready

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[gh15]

No need for the name change. This is actually good for your GB reputation. Once Yogi hears about your real identity, he will credit you with 5 blue stars and give you a pro status.

I'll remember Robert for his symmetric physique. Just like in the pro circuit in the nineties you had a lot of good Dutch guys. These days you can count them with one hand  
9 out of 10 times it's a serious disaster when you see a bodybuilder in a talkshow

this fella juiced to hell and back ,,he is living LIVING off juicing and hormonizing,,he has tits ,,dry and tits,,that means he also not good natural because the true top of the liars cover for the tits either with surgery and remove of glands or just profesional at taking drugs,,you get to be profesional graduate  of hormone school as natural ,,but then again you wont have gh15 as your princpel,,yet you will be quiote a pro at taking drugs

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[Jaime]

wrong, dildo. take two guys who look the same and are equally facially attractive and she'll gravitate to the taller one if the is a marked discrepancy in heights.

You said weight, muscular weight is unattractive past a certain point, how many times would you have exact equals lol.

Height? yeah granted.

[Jaime]

oh ,, LOTS of hormones,,and long time on them ,,top npc leverl hormones,,not just playing with them ,,deep deep deep in them,,practically addict

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Okay G you are just trolling now.

[obtuse_waiter]

[nosleep]

I'll start. (Yes I know this guy looks like a metrosexual cum guzzling fruitcake, but i'm just using this pic to prove a point) This is the kind of physique you can expect naturally.

 Any more mass and you'll get soft and bloofy.

 As a natural this is the kind of mass you can shoot for while still being cut.

 

Nah, it can go past that. My friend is slightly bigger and doesn't even lift. 5'10, 155lbs but lean as fuck. No lifting, 2 meals a day...just a college kid. Plays basketball and thats it.

Now he has the genetics to be a top fleet pro, if he wanted to.

[Parker]

Take a look at this dude's pics and profile...6'0 208, whether he is natty or not...
This is where your "promise land" lays
http://www.modelmayhem.com/720848

[Firemuscle]

Nah, it can go past that. My friend is slightly bigger and doesn't even lift. 5'10, 155lbs but lean as fuck. No lifting, 2 meals a day...just a college kid. Plays basketball and thats it.

Now he has the genetics to be a top fleet pro, if he wanted to.

 Exactly.

 Like I said, in this thread i'm talking about what guys with AVERAGE genetics can accomplish.

[DK II]

it is frastrate,,when you finish work out and go out the gym door with youe bud and a car with 4 girl pass by and they scream from window twar you their nonesense about how they want to eat you and wistle and oh my god comments,,while your natural halodrol bud...they dont think even work out,,

naturals if everything sits right under the sun...will only look good when shirt come off and PUMPED,,even then they better nto turn sideways becuase they will disapear into neverland,,

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This is so fucking true, 10000% spot on.


When you are natural you diet and diet, you search for improvements in the mirror every day, you think "ahhh, here i MIGHT have improved a little" and then you meet someone you haven't seen in a few weeks or months and the first thing they say is: "Do you still work out?"....  

And you want to cry, you want to scream "Yeah motherfucker i do, 5 days a week, diet, cardio, everything!!" but you know how they would just think that you are crazy because what they read in the magazines is that Christian Bale bullked up 50lbs of muscle in 12 weeks and had to cut down because he was to big, and that Brad Pitt build 30lbs of muscle for Troy in 6 weeks.

Then you start to realize, you have to get bigger, so you bulk and you feel GOOD!! Your T-Shirt gets small, people tell you "Hey what's up, you got bigger since i last saw you!!" and you bulk and bulk some more, and before you know it people tell you "Do you still work out, you have gotten fat man"...

Now go back to the first paragraph OR enter steroids and see your body transform into what you have been dreaming of for so many years in a matter of weeks.  

[Firemuscle]

This is so fucking true, 10000% spot on.


When you are natural you diet and diet, you search for improvements in the mirror every day, you think "ahhh, here i MIGHT have improved a little" and then you meet someone you haven't seen in a few weeks or months and the first thing they say is: "Do you still work out?"....  

And you want to cry, you want to scream "Yeah motherfucker i do, 5 days a week, diet, cardio, everything!!" but you know how they would just think that you are crazy because what they read in the magazines is that Christian Bale bullked up 50lbs of muscle in 12 weeks and had to cut down because he was to big, and that Brad Pitt build 30lbs of muscle for Troy in 6 weeks.

Then you start to realize, you have to get bigger, so you bulk and you feel GOOD!! Your T-Shirt gets small, people tell you "Hey what's up, you got bigger since i last saw you!!" and you bulk and bulk some more, and before you know it people tell you "Do you still work out, you have gotten fat man"...

Now go back to the first paragraph OR enter steroids and see your body transform into what you have been dreaming of for so many years in a matter of weeks.  

 That's how I felt like 8 years ago.

 Then my mindset changed, and I stopped wanting to look like a bodybuilder. Stopped obsessing over my body.

 Now i'm perfectly happy to just be lean and in shape. I'm perfectly happy to have a good swimmer's build.

 In my opinion. It's just not worth it to chase the drug muscles. And it's constant work and financial investment to maintain it. Gotta keep on buying that food and drugs to maintain the look. Fuck all that. Give me something that I can keep even if I go camping for a week or whatever.

[DK II]

That's how I felt like 8 years ago.

 Then my mindset changed, and I stopped wanting to look like a bodybuilder. Stopped obsessing over my body.

 Now i'm perfectly happy to just be lean and in shape. I'm perfectly happy to have a good swimmer's build.

 In my opinion. It's just not worth it to chase the drug muscles. And it's constant work and financial investment to maintain it. Gotta keep on buying that food and drugs to maintain the look. Fuck all that. Give me something that I can keep even if I go camping for a week or whatever.

Good for you that you are happy, but you don't even have a swimmer's build, dude.  No hating, but you look EXACTLY like you don't even work out.

[Firemuscle]

Good for you that you are happy, but you don't even have a swimmer's build, dude.  No hating, but you look EXACTLY like you don't even work out.

 You're just a meathead who slams anyone who's under 200 pounds.

 In REALITY. I'm much more hard, vascular and lean than most of the other dudes I encounter.

 It's not up to your meathead standards. But it's pretty good for a guy who just wants to be in shape.

[DK II]

BTW, so you arehappy with your body, Blackfag, but a few months ago you make threads like these on the steroid board??

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=370734.0



NO ONE here is happy with his body, hope this helps. Everyone wants to be a little (or a lot) more muscular, more ripped. There may be times when you are satisfied with what you have reached until now, but it never lasts long.

And that is the truth, no way you can deny that.

[dj181]

That's how I felt like 8 years ago.

 Then my mindset changed, and I stopped wanting to look like a bodybuilder. Stopped obsessing over my body.

 Now i'm perfectly happy to just be lean and in shape. I'm perfectly happy to have a good swimmer's build.

 In my opinion. It's just not worth it to chase the drug muscles. And it's constant work and financial investment to maintain it. Gotta keep on buying that food and drugs to maintain the look. Fuck all that. Give me something that I can keep even if I go camping for a week or whatever.

But the thing is, even if one has a very lean and conditioned natural physique, then he must keep training very regularly and consistently to maintain it. Even 1 week off, will cause quite a difference in the quality of his physique. In my own experience, I start to regress after 4 or 5 days of no training Also the training must be kept at that certain level that brought one there. For example, if one keeps training but takes the intensity down a notch or two then his physique will go down a notch or two as well.

[DK II]

You're just a meathead who slams anyone who's under 200 pounds.

 In REALITY. I'm much more hard, vascular and lean than most of the other dudes I encounter.

 It's not up to your meathead standards. But it's pretty good for a guy who just wants to be in shape.

LOL, you're a good troll, that is all.

You're not hard, nor vascular and i bet my ass you're even fat by vietnamese / thai standards.

[Firemuscle]

BTW, so you arehappy with your body, Blackfag, but a few months ago you make threads like these on the steroid board??

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=370734.0



NO ONE here is happy with his body, hope this helps. Everyone wants to be a little (or a lot) more muscular, more ripped. There may be times when you are satisfied with what you have reached until now, but it never lasts long.

And that is the truth, no way you can deny that.

 Sometimes I think about trying gear. But it only lasts a day or two and then the urge wears off.

 Having drugs muscles just takes too much maintenance for me. I like to have the freedom to drop my whole routine for a week or two if I want. I don't want to lock into a commitment that requires constant work and drugs high food intake.

[WillGrant]

I love training,.. and i will share what i know regardless
people dont believe because they dont think they can achieve what i have or are envious... there are some who believe... i get pms frm time to time... a few people here actually know me in real life..
peple are funny they will believe a faceless gimmick... because its easy but to believe me and work hard for gains over a decade is hard
either way ... I will still share info.... Ive been posting here 7 yrs now my lifts that i claimed were bullshit i posted pics and vids .. size of my arms were called bullshit i posted vids.... people have been accusing me of not being natural since them.. for the most part i take it as a compliment.... and it hasnt stopped me and wont stop me from posting
thanks for your "concern" though
meso

you are not natural so stfu dude - if you are you must have the best genetics known to man - we have been over this so many times why you are not natural , it defys logic now go pop a dart in your ass and inject some "natural" propinate 

[Firemuscle]

LOL, you're a good troll, that is all.

You're not hard, nor vascular and i bet my ass you're even fat by vietnamese / thai standards.

 You're just an idiot who thinks anyone under 190 pounds is a "twink".

 Grow up dude. My physique looks well above average. I look ATHLETIC. Do you know what that means?

[Firemuscle]

But the thing is, even if one has a very lean and conditioned natural physique, then he must keep training very regularly and consistently to maintain it. Even 1 week off, will cause quite a difference in the quality of his physique. In my own experience, I start to regress after 4 or 5 days of no training Also the training must be kept at that certain level that brought one there. For example, if one keeps training but takes the intensity down a notch or two then his physique will go down a notch or two as well.

 Just depends what you're trying to do.

 If you're trying to be at 95-100% of your genetic potential, then what you say is true.

 But if you're satisfied to just be at like 70-80% of your genetic potential, you can take a more laid back approach to the whole thing.

[DK II]

Sometimes I think about trying gear. But it only lasts a day or two and then the urge wears off.

 Having drugs muscles just takes too much maintenance for me. I like to have the freedom to drop my whole routine for a week or two if I want. I don't want to lock into a commitment that requires constant work and drugs high food intake.

This is were you are completely WRONG, retard.

Steroids LET you keep muscles. When you're on gear, you can slack with the diet, slack with the training and so on... Why the fuck do you think movie actors and these Guidos take steroids?? Because they don't want to bother working out hard, 4 times a week, have the diet in check all time and lose the conditioning and muscle from the day that you stop??

Surely, THIS kind of steroid muscle will go away quickly when you stop and is only the "bloat", so to speak, but training on steroids let's you add a lot more freedom to training, diet and so on than training naturally.

And if you start to get fat, add some GH, Tren or ECA.

[DK II]

You're just an idiot who thinks anyone under 190 pounds is a "twink".

 Grow up dude. My physique looks well above average. I look ATHLETIC. Do you know what that means?

Not at all, i just say YOU look like shit, because obviously you do.

Athletic?? LOL.

Go to any track and field playground, you will meet some athletic people there.

[mesmorph78]

you are not natural so stfu dude - if you are you must have the best genetics known to man - we have been over this so many times why you are not natural , it defys logic now go pop a dart in your ass and inject some "natural" propinate 

Whatever you say...

[DroppingPlates]

this fella juiced to hell and back ,,he is living LIVING off juicing and hormonizing,,he has tits ,,dry and tits,,that means he also not good natural because the true top of the liars cover for the tits either with surgery and remove of glands or just profesional at taking drugs,,you get to be profesional graduate  of hormone school as natural ,,but then again you wont have gh15 as your princpel,,yet you will be quiote a pro at taking drugs

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Haha, as if I was even suggesting he were a nattie 

[youngbb31]

This is were you are completely WRONG, retard.

Steroids LET you keep muscles. When you're on gear, you can slack with the diet, slack with the training and so on... Why the fuck do you think movie actors and these Guidos take steroids?? Because they don't want to bother working out hard, 4 times a week, have the diet in check all time and lose the conditioning and muscle from the day that you stop??

Surely, THIS kind of steroid muscle will go away quickly when you stop and is only the "bloat", so to speak, but training on steroids let's you add a lot more freedom to training, diet and so on than training naturally.

And if you start to get fat, add some GH, Tren or ECA.

While I agree this is true because of their power, why the fuck would you want to slack honestly? If it were me I'd be trying just as hard if not harder to be on point with everything to reap the benefits of the investment. Then again I realize people do it for different reasons, to look good, party lifestyle, club, etc. just my opinion on that.