Author Topic: For those who believe that anybody with seroius muscle is on gear.... (Read 27541 times)

BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT · « **on:** June 10, 2011, 08:06:24 PM »

....then explain how these muscle men from around 1900 had such above average muscular mass and leanness. Guys like Bobby Pandour, Staff Seargant Alfred Moss and Maxsik. And dont spew that same old shit about raw injectable testosterone being around in a primal form during those years. We are talking about 1900-1915 here. No whey powder, no creatine, no glutamine. Sorry losers, there are some genetically advantaged men that can build up serious size without the gear. So if this happened at the turn of the century, how is it that with advances in training knowledge, along with superior nutrition and supplements like the above, can a man not achieve a freakish body such as a Skip Lacour? Not saying that just anybody can build a body like Lacour but it absolutely is possible if you are a genetic freak such as the turn of century guys I will post below. And for guys like Lee Priest who claim to take minimal anabolics and whom I personally know and know that they take mild amounts and take tremendous periods of time off the gear...... it is entirely possible for this to be true if you consider the photos of turn of the century muscle men. For the morons who will still dispute such claims, I really feel sorry for you. You probably dont have much of a physique anyway and if you take heavy gear to build up, I am sure that you will never look awesome like your heroes anyway, cause you just dont have the genes to do so. I'd bet that 85% of the chunches on this site dont even have anywhere near the muscle of any of these 3 men. And you guys are living in 2011. Prove me wrong.

Here is Bobby Pandour in his prime. Around 1900. Sorry for the link. I can paste pics right now.

http://www.fitnes.lv/news/foto2/Bobby_Pandour_1876-1920.jpg

Maxick in his prime. Early 1900's

http://www.maxalding.co.uk/maxick/maxick.jpg

Staff Seargant Alfred Moss. Early 1900's

http://www.sandowplus.co.uk/Competition/Moss/moss.htm

King Shizzo · « **Reply #1 on:** June 10, 2011, 08:09:51 PM »

Quote from: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on June 10, 2011, 08:06:24 PM

....then explain how these muscle men from around 1900 had such above average muscular mass and leanness. Guys like Bobby Pandour, Staff Seargant Alfred Moss and Maxsik. And dont spew that same old shit about raw injectable testosterone being around in a primal form during those years. We are talking about 1900-1915 here. No whey powder, no creatine, no glutamine. Sorry losers, there are some genetically advantaged men that can build up serious size without the gear. So if this happened at the turn of the century, how is it that with advances in training knowledge, along with superior nutrition and supplements like the above, can a man not achieve a freakish body such as a Skip Lacour? Not saying that just anybody can build a body like Lacour but it absolutely is possible if you are a genetic freak such as the turn of century guys I will post below. And for guys like Lee Priest who claim to take minimal anabolics and whom I personally know and know that they take mild amounts and take tremendous periods of time off the gear...... it is entirely possible for this to be true if you consider the photos of turn of the century muscle men. For the morons who will still dispute such claims, I really feel sorry for you. You probably dont have much of a physique anyway and if you take heavy gear to build up, I am sure that you will never look awesome like your heroes anyway, cause you just dont have the genes to do so.

Here is Bobby Pandour in his prime. Around 1900. Sorry for the link. I can paste pics right now.

http://www.fitnes.lv/news/foto2/Bobby_Pandour_1876-1920.jpg

What do define as serious muscle? That guy looks great, but I would never get him confused with a guy like Paul Dillett in terms of muscle mass.

Rami · « **Reply #2 on:** June 10, 2011, 08:11:27 PM »

becuase they were all 4'8 back then

The.Giant · « **Reply #3 on:** June 10, 2011, 08:13:21 PM »

Those guys are all pretty clearly natural.

BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT · « **Reply #4 on:** June 10, 2011, 08:13:38 PM »

Quote from: shizzo81 on June 10, 2011, 08:09:51 PM

What do define as serious muscle? That guy looks great, but I would never get him confused with a guy like Paul Dillett in terms of muscle mass.

Lets be real here. I am not saying that they look like Paul Dillett. I am saying that if guys like this existed in 1900, then it is totally possible to have great natural bodybuilders like Lacour exist in 2000. And it is entirely possible for a genetic freak like Priest to look the way he does on minimal roids and GH.

bradistani · « **Reply #5 on:** June 10, 2011, 08:14:35 PM »

Quote from: shizzo81 on June 10, 2011, 08:09:51 PM

What do define as serious muscle? That guy looks great, but I would never get him confused with a guy like Paul Dillett in terms of muscle mass.

people think the likes of brad pitt and johnny depp are roided to the gills, for fucks sake

BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT · « **Reply #6 on:** June 10, 2011, 08:15:39 PM »

Quote from: Rami on June 10, 2011, 08:11:27 PM

becuase they were all 4'8 back then

So is Lee Priest. Doesnt matter. If a short guy looked like Pandour or Maxick and posted he was clean on this site, 75% of you would rip him a new asshole and say he was full of shit.

OTHstrong · « **Reply #7 on:** June 10, 2011, 08:20:11 PM »

5'8 175 under 6%,185 8%.....6' 195 6%, 205 8% I believe is gh15, limit....These guys you posted look within those limits nothing special here.

BB · « **Reply #8 on:** June 10, 2011, 08:23:21 PM »

Pandour was #150-160 at 5' 6". Maxick was 5' 4" at #140-150 for frame of reference.

Vince G, CSN MFT · « **Reply #9 on:** June 10, 2011, 08:24:46 PM »

Quote from: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on June 10, 2011, 08:06:24 PM

....then explain how these muscle men from around 1900 had such above average muscular mass and leanness. Guys like Bobby Pandour, Staff Seargant Alfred Moss and Maxsik. And dont spew that same old shit about raw injectable testosterone being around in a primal form during those years. We are talking about 1900-1915 here. No whey powder, no creatine, no glutamine. Sorry losers, there are some genetically advantaged men that can build up serious size without the gear. So if this happened at the turn of the century, how is it that with advances in training knowledge, along with superior nutrition and supplements like the above, can a man not achieve a freakish body such as a Skip Lacour? Not saying that just anybody can build a body like Lacour but it absolutely is possible if you are a genetic freak such as the turn of century guys I will post below. And for guys like Lee Priest who claim to take minimal anabolics and whom I personally know and know that they take mild amounts and take tremendous periods of time off the gear...... it is entirely possible for this to be true if you consider the photos of turn of the century muscle men. For the morons who will still dispute such claims, I really feel sorry for you. You probably dont have much of a physique anyway and if you take heavy gear to build up, I am sure that you will never look awesome like your heroes anyway, cause you just dont have the genes to do so.

Here is Bobby Pandour in his prime. Around 1900. Sorry for the link. I can paste pics right now.

http://www.fitnes.lv/news/foto2/Bobby_Pandour_1876-1920.jpg

Maxick in his prime. Early 1900's

http://www.maxalding.co.uk/maxick/maxick.jpg

Staff Seargant Alfred Moss. Early 1900's

http://www.sandowplus.co.uk/Competition/Moss/moss.htm

They were a lot shorter and stockier and they worked with huge weight along with eating unprocessed vegetables and meat. Also, you may want to attribute their ultra-ripped condition due to the fact that they were using cocaine which was cheap, legal and very available. In the 1900's you could walk into any store and pick up a quarter key of coke. There was hardly a house in the 1900's that didn't have a jar of cocaine on their dinner table. Then of course, there was also ephedrine.

BTW, anabolic steroids actually pre-date the late 1800's. Testicle extract was being used by the medical community at the time to test its effects on strength and while it wasn't as potent as modern day anabolics, it did somewhat work in building muscle.

They may not have had the advancements of today but they also didn't have the restrictions and limitations on pharmacuticals neither.

King Shizzo · « **Reply #10 on:** June 10, 2011, 08:29:20 PM »

Quote from: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on June 10, 2011, 08:13:38 PM

Lets be real here. I am not saying that they look like Paul Dillett. I am saying that if guys like this existed in 1900, then it is totally possible to have great natural bodybuilders like Lacour exist in 2000. And it is entirely possible for a genetic freak like Priest to look the way he does on minimal roids and GH.

you lost me there beefy...... Lacour is 100X bigger than that 1900's guy.

Maldoror · « **Reply #11 on:** June 10, 2011, 08:30:42 PM »

Quote from: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on June 10, 2011, 08:06:24 PM

....then explain how these muscle men from around 1900 had such above average muscular mass and leanness. Guys like Bobby Pandour, Staff Seargant Alfred Moss and Maxsik. And dont spew that same old shit about raw injectable testosterone being around in a primal form during those years. We are talking about 1900-1915 here. No whey powder, no creatine, no glutamine. Sorry losers, there are some genetically advantaged men that can build up serious size without the gear. So if this happened at the turn of the century, how is it that with advances in training knowledge, along with superior nutrition and supplements like the above, can a man not achieve a freakish body such as a Skip Lacour? Not saying that just anybody can build a body like Lacour but it absolutely is possible if you are a genetic freak such as the turn of century guys I will post below. And for guys like Lee Priest who claim to take minimal anabolics and whom I personally know and know that they take mild amounts and take tremendous periods of time off the gear...... it is entirely possible for this to be true if you consider the photos of turn of the century muscle men. For the morons who will still dispute such claims, I really feel sorry for you. You probably dont have much of a physique anyway and if you take heavy gear to build up, I am sure that you will never look awesome like your heroes anyway, cause you just dont have the genes to do so. I'd bet that 85% of the chunches on this site dont even have anywhere near the muscle of any of these 3 men. And you guys are living in 2011. Prove me wrong.

Here is Bobby Pandour in his prime. Around 1900. Sorry for the link. I can paste pics right now.

http://www.fitnes.lv/news/foto2/Bobby_Pandour_1876-1920.jpg

Maxick in his prime. Early 1900's

http://www.maxalding.co.uk/maxick/maxick.jpg

Staff Seargant Alfred Moss. Early 1900's

http://www.sandowplus.co.uk/Competition/Moss/moss.htm

It's official: "BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT" is the new, undisputed "Stupidest Poster on GetBig"!!! SMM has at long last been dethroned!
Congratulations, you fucking retard!

AC Slater · « **Reply #12 on:** June 10, 2011, 08:52:38 PM »

Beefy, get back to the good posts about g4p in pro bodybuilding.

dj181 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 10, 2011, 08:58:32 PM »

That's some dense and lean muscle right there

Theoak* · « **Reply #14 on:** June 11, 2011, 01:26:26 AM »

Ahahah tuned out when beefy mentioned lee priest on mild amounts of anabolics and long periods off. This some sort of joke, long periods off = people like tom prince, kevin levrone etc. Even these guys didnt go off they just lowered the dosages. There is no such thing as off in professional bodybuilding these days.

You think lee priest would go off for lengthy periods and still train without gear? BBers ranging from amateur to pro never train without something in their system, why would they? Please, we are amongst a lazy generation and bodybuilders are lazy in general, mentally they couldnt handle training with anything less than a gram of aas in their bodies.

asbrus · « **Reply #15 on:** June 11, 2011, 01:39:39 AM »

Quote from: Onetimehard on June 10, 2011, 08:20:11 PM

5'8 175 under 6%,185 8%.....6' 195 6%, 205 8% I believe is gh15, limit....These guys you posted look within those limits nothing special here.

N0 GH 15 DID N0T SAY THAT. HE SAID 5 11 182 6 PERCENT IS MAX. 5 8 IT'S 165. I'M 177 RIGHT N0W 5 11 6 PERCENT AND I GET ACCUSED 0F JUICING BY EVERY0NE 0N THIS F0RUM AND I STARTED AT 155LBS WITH0UT T0UCHING A WEIGHT.

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #16 on:** June 11, 2011, 01:40:57 AM »

BEEFY ... stick to the gay stories .. you are wasting time with your arguments. Either you are clueless or acting stupid to support priest's lies

BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT · « **Reply #17 on:** June 11, 2011, 02:57:50 AM »

Quote from: shizzo81 on June 10, 2011, 08:29:20 PM

you lost me there beefy...... Lacour is 100X bigger than that 1900's guy.

How is it that you don not understand what it is I am saying? I will repeat it very clear. If the men above were able to build such muscular bodies steroid free and without smart nutrition and suplements in the year 1900, then it is totally possible for a current day natural bodybuilder with the same genetic gifts to be able to build a way more impressive physique in the year 2011 considering the nutrtional knowledge we now have coupled with supplements like creatine, whey and glutamine. Add training knowledge to that mix too. So yes... of course LaCour is way bigger than those guys. That is my point.

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #18 on:** June 11, 2011, 03:05:36 AM »

lacour is on a shitload of gear and priest is megadosing .. why do you insist on perpetrating these lies is beyond me

BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT · « **Reply #19 on:** June 11, 2011, 03:06:56 AM »

Quote from: Theoak* on June 11, 2011, 01:26:26 AM

Ahahah tuned out when beefy mentioned lee priest on mild amounts of anabolics and long periods off. This some sort of joke, long periods off = people like tom prince, kevin levrone etc. Even these guys didnt go off they just lowered the dosages. There is no such thing as off in professional bodybuilding these days.

You think lee priest would go off for lengthy periods and still train without gear? BBers ranging from amateur to pro never train without something in their system, why would they? Please, we are amongst a lazy generation and bodybuilders are lazy in general, mentally they couldnt handle training with anything less than a gram of aas in their bodies.

You my friend, are delusional. You sound like an 18 year old newbie who thinks bodybuilding begins and ends with guys like Coleman and Cutler.You have no fucking idea what you are talking about. You and every other pathetic loser who has never competed at any real level always believe such horseshit. Many top guys have went off the gear 100% between cycles. Not all of them do it. Some do keep in a low maintanence dose, but many still go off 100%. I lived with Lee Priest in the mid 90's here in Venice and then for a brief period when he live in Lancaster, Ca. We used to laugh are asses off about guys like you. Lee would take an average of 3 months off 100% after a show. No HCG or maint doses. Just cold turkey off. Then a low dose anabolic cycle 3 months later for 12 weeks. I lived withthe man and remember when he would pick up his supply. The only thing he was taking in when he was off cycles was 12 piece buckets of KFC and bags of peanut M&Ms. Go back to your high chair and bib. Keep sucking down your Muscle Milk and staring at posters of Coleman and Cutler. Suck on their man tities and have a nice wet dream.

BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT · « **Reply #20 on:** June 11, 2011, 03:11:36 AM »

Quote from: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 10, 2011, 08:24:46 PM

They were a lot shorter and stockier and they worked with huge weight along with eating unprocessed vegetables and meat. Also, you may want to attribute their ultra-ripped condition due to the fact that they were using cocaine which was cheap, legal and very available. In the 1900's you could walk into any store and pick up a quarter key of coke. There was hardly a house in the 1900's that didn't have a jar of cocaine on their dinner table. Then of course, there was also ephedrine.

BTW, anabolic steroids actually pre-date the late 1800's. Testicle extract was being used by the medical community at the time to test its effects on strength and while it wasn't as potent as modern day anabolics, it did somewhat work in building muscle.

They may not have had the advancements of today but they also didn't have the restrictions and limitations on pharmacuticals neither.

Always guys bring up Bull Testicles and such. While they existed, they did shit for size. Even the late John Grimek admitted to taking a few injections of primitive testosterone in the early 50's and it doing shit for him. It wasnt yet perfected for anabolic growth and we are talking testosterone here. The bull ball extract didnt do shit and his since been tested over and over and proven worhtless. Please with that shit. As for the cocaine, who knows who used it. Sure doesnt build muscle. And most guys using coke dont look like these guys muscularly. Weak points you bring.

gh15 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 11, 2011, 03:19:37 AM »

you fellas fail to understand that the fellas in the early 1900 and beforre hand were very very short,,they were small fellas,,they were ripped but SMALL,,smalllllllllllllllllllllll,,when you have low bodyfat you can look huge even at 140 lb ...in picture! all of those fellas were short and small,,all of them indeed used cocaine and stimulants,, all of them! but more importantly in regarding to this question about skippi ,,HE ADDMITED TO THE USAGE OF TESTOSTERONA PROPIONETA ALREADY and he admited he used in the past when he competed npc,,its aknown fact ,,what he is claiming is that later he did it all clean with ofcourse is lie outmost lie and utter balonie,,

gh15 approved

cephissus · « **Reply #22 on:** June 11, 2011, 03:20:24 AM »

These guys are neither ripped nor thick. They are not comparable to skip lacour in the slightest.

BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT · « **Reply #23 on:** June 11, 2011, 03:21:48 AM »

Quote from: Cleanest Natural on June 11, 2011, 03:05:36 AM

lacour is on a shitload of gear and priest is megadosing .. why do you insist on perpetrating these lies is beyond me

hence your screen name. You my friend are why every newbie is popping a needle in their ass within 3 months of taking up serious weight training. Steroid abuse clearly exists, but it is nt as heavy as you may want to wetdream about. Lived with Lee Priest in mid 90's. Watched him shoot 600mgs of Mexican Veterinarian Laurobolin in his delt once a week. Lee would bitch to the high heavens about having to take the shot. He hated shooting up his glute so he would only inject into his side delts. The man hated needles. Clearly remember how glad he would be after the cycle and no more injections. Hated it with a passion. Paul Dillett hated needles even more. Only took orals off season. Nothing but Anadrol off season. No off cycle for Paul. 3 anadrol a day for Dillett off season. Thats it. Not low, but not as high as you would like to blow yourself a huge load. Go put your tapout cap back on. Make sure to turn it sideways.

BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT · « **Reply #24 on:** June 11, 2011, 03:25:02 AM »

Quote from: AC Slater on June 10, 2011, 08:52:38 PM

Beefy, get back to the good posts about g4p in pro bodybuilding.

Why? So you can blow a nice hot load onto your own belly? No thanks. Nice avatar. Do you watch Extra every night and dream of having your tongue up Mario Lopez's shit chute?