Author Topic: bummer.. Michael Savage on the Norway Terrorist act, Time he calls it quits now? (Read 5781 times)

GigantorX · « **Reply #25 on:** July 23, 2011, 06:42:01 AM »

Quote from: njanvi on July 23, 2011, 06:36:35 AM

And Fox has no agenda??
Look I think it's just as bad pumping out your own propaganda while accusing others as cover. That's my beef, if you want to have a bias, have one. As a matter of fact, it's the reason y every major town in this country had two newspapers, just be honest about it

I never said Fox didn't.

CNN, CNBC, Fox, MSNBC are newsMEDIA CORPORATIONS. They are a business and they have customers.

Our "journalistic" media checked out on its duty of being a counter-balance to govt. and such a long, long time ago.

njanvi · « **Reply #26 on:** July 23, 2011, 06:47:57 AM »

Quote from: GigantorX on July 23, 2011, 06:42:01 AM

I never said Fox didn't.

CNN, CNBC, Fox, MSNBC are newsMEDIA CORPORATIONS. They are a business and they have customers.

Our "journalistic" media checked out on its duty of being a counter-balance to govt. and such a long, long time ago.

Can't say that I disagree, but it's all driven by US. We have no interest in hearing news and opinions that are counter to our believes, we only say we do because it's intellectually the right answer. We convince ourselves that bias news is fair as long as it reinforces our beliefs

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #27 on:** July 23, 2011, 06:51:27 AM »

Quote from: njanvi on July 23, 2011, 06:47:57 AM

Can't say that I disagree, but it's all driven by US. We have no interest in hearing news and opinions that are counter to our believes, we only say we do because it's intellectually the right answer. We convince ourselves that bias news is fair as long as it reinforces our beliefs

Best thing to do is turn off the tv altogether.

njanvi · « **Reply #28 on:** July 23, 2011, 06:53:14 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 23, 2011, 06:51:27 AM

Best thing to do is turn off the tv altogether.

Yep, but no reason not that call it for what it is......

GigantorX · « **Reply #29 on:** July 23, 2011, 06:57:38 AM »

The old adage, "Follow the money" works in this case as well. Who owns the corporations? What are their subsidiaries, portfolio's? What are their political beliefs? Who do they donate campaign money too? How do they vote? Who are they friends with? And on and on...

I mean, for fuck sake, New Corp. own 50%, almost HALF, of the print media etc in Great Britain. One fucking corporation controls half of what people read. That's fucking crazy and should never be allowed to happen. Just like Comcast buying NBC/Universal, no dice.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #30 on:** July 23, 2011, 06:59:54 AM »

Quote from: GigantorX on July 23, 2011, 06:57:38 AM

The old adage, "Follow the money" works in this case as well. Who owns the corporations? What are their subsidiaries, portfolio's? What are their political beliefs? Who do they donate campaign money too? How do they vote? Who are they friends with? And on and on...

I mean, for fuck sake, New Corp. own 50%, almost HALF, of the print media etc in Great Britain. One fucking corporation controls half of what people read. That's fucking crazy and should never be allowed to happen. Just like Comcast buying NBC/Universal, no dice.

I heard on the radio Murdoch owns something like 200 newspapers alone. Insane.

njanvi · « **Reply #31 on:** July 23, 2011, 07:02:14 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 23, 2011, 06:59:54 AM

I heard on the radio Murdoch owns something like 200 newspapers alone. Insane.

Thing is conservatives in this country actually believe the guy loves them when all they represents are pawns in his quest to advance his agenda and make more money.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #32 on:** July 23, 2011, 07:12:03 AM »

Quote from: njanvi on July 23, 2011, 07:02:14 AM

Thing is conservatives in this country actually believe the guy loves them when all they represents are pawns in his quest to advance his agenda and make more money.

True. I know bullshit when I hear it, and nothing worse than heraring someone who says "I only watch fox news" or "Rush said" or some shit like that. Personally - I consider Fox News an insult to humanity. You wake up in the mornining - world is on fire and they are like "Up next, why are teenage girls and their moms both dressing alike?" or some nonsense like that.

I ask them - "What is the last book you read?" Have you ever heard of shiff or celente? Do you know about Federal Reserve system etc etc.

If I get that look like WTF are you talking about - I know I am dealing with a brainwashed fool.

GigantorX · « **Reply #33 on:** July 23, 2011, 07:12:18 AM »

Quote from: njanvi on July 23, 2011, 07:02:14 AM

Thing is conservatives in this country actually believe the guy loves them when all they represents are pawns in his quest to advance his agenda and make more money.

It's a business, first and foremost.

njanvi · « **Reply #34 on:** July 23, 2011, 07:18:44 AM »

Quote from: GigantorX on July 23, 2011, 07:12:18 AM

It's a business, first and foremost.

Rush, Palin, hannity, maher......all have gotten filthy rich while convincing fools that they are fighting for them. Meanwhile, they are signing big media contracts and saying more outrageous things to attract more fools.

Btw, I mentioned mostly right wingers because they are more prevalent, plenty of leftist too I'm sure

Tre · « **Reply #35 on:** July 23, 2011, 07:19:01 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 23, 2011, 04:54:10 AM

Obama supporters like yourself are immune to see the destruction and demolition Obama is causing to the nation.

Question: Did you also witness 'destruction and demolition' during the previous previous two regimes, Cheney's and Clinton's?

njanvi · « **Reply #36 on:** July 23, 2011, 07:20:03 AM »

Quote from: Tre on July 23, 2011, 07:19:01 AM

Question: Did you also witness 'destruction and demolition' during the previous previous two regimes, Cheney's and Clinton's?

Cheney's.....ha ha

GigantorX · « **Reply #37 on:** July 23, 2011, 07:24:42 AM »

Quote from: Tre on July 23, 2011, 07:19:01 AM

Question: Did you also witness 'destruction and demolition' during the previous previous two regimes, Cheney's and Clinton's?

Here's a pot stirrer...

Gramm-Leach-Biley and the Financial Modernization Act of 1999 was more destructive to the U.S. than 9/11 and the Iraq/ Post 2004 war in Afghanistan was/is more destructive it the U.S. than 9/11

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #38 on:** July 23, 2011, 07:29:30 AM »

Quote from: Tre on July 23, 2011, 07:19:01 AM

Question: Did you also witness 'destruction and demolition' during the previous previous two regimes, Cheney's and Clinton's?

Yes.

Clinton's wrecking ball: NAFTA, signing Gramm Leach repealing Glass Steagal, pushing Fanny and Freedy to enact CRA on roids.

W - continued the madness with Greenspan and appointing Bernake as Fed Res Chairman, never said shit and did not try to curb housing bubble, and from 2007 - on - disaster - between allowing Paulson/Geithnner to do Tarp, started the ball rolling with TBTF, the Iraq war was allowed to linger on, spending like crazy, drug bill, etc.

Obama - Well its the same crooks in charge, obamacare, bailouts, spending like crazy, reappointment helicopter ben, goldman sachs/citi/boa people all over the place, epa craziness, etc.

njanvi · « **Reply #39 on:** July 23, 2011, 07:31:26 AM »

Quote from: GigantorX on July 23, 2011, 07:24:42 AM

Here's a pot stirrer...

Gramm-Leach-Biley and the Financial Modernization Act of 1999 was more destructive to the U.S. than 9/11 and the Iraq/ Post 2004 war in Afghanistan was/is more destructive it the U.S. than 9/11

Man, you are stirring the pot....and signed by a DEMOCRATIC prez....like you said, nothing to do w ideology, just follow the money.

One thing about this that gets under my skin is when eighties try to blame the poor and policies that encouraged home ownerships as if the banks were forced to do anything.

The whole mess started when this bill was signed

Parker · « **Reply #40 on:** July 23, 2011, 07:37:50 AM »

Quote from: Tapeworm on July 23, 2011, 06:16:04 AM

I've heard that lower test levels are associated with Grumpy Old Man Syndrome. That and all the world's bs, I suppose, but if things don't roll off his back like they used to and you reckon his character has really changed then it might be worth looking into. There's the common mental ailments of the elderly too, if you think that bears investigating.

Being retired and getting overly impassioned about politics seems to be an old man thing to do though. Been meaning to ask mine why he waited 70 years to get so fired up if this stuff is of such Earth shaking importance.

I just had a my grandfather(my dad's father) die due to issues with Alzheimer's, and I remember that my grandfather watch sports all the time. Nothing really exercising for the brain, Sometimes i am worried since my dad is 69, that this might be the onset.
I shit you not this is a black man that didn't take off for MLK's Holiday...basically the only one who went to work. He has great work ethic. And for about 20 yrs, its been Dr. Mirkin, and conservative talk shows (Ever been in the car as a teenager with your parents when a woman calls up Dr. Mirkin and says she cums about a quart?)

And Everybody is trying to cheat him---that's a 30+ yr thing, but more so now due to the economy. I tell him to cut off the Conservative shit and listen to some Jazz---at least you are not being mind warped by someones agenda.

When my dad listens to Mike Savage, he smiles and says, "you Tell 'Em! Tell the Truth!", and don't get him started on"The Illegals", and every Latino is an "illegal", mind you this is a black man---who obviously forgot that he is a black man ("Are all black men criminals, Dad?"). I told him that he may have a Latina for a daughter in law, then what...

"Obama doesn't know what he is doing!", "Congress are bullies who want to rob you blind!", Blah, blah, blah. If I come over to visit or to help out, I only talk about cars, work...and even then it leads to the same damn thing...
Maybe it's a extreme case of Grumpy Old Man Syndrome combine with Uncle Ruckus Syndrome

njanvi · « **Reply #41 on:** July 23, 2011, 07:46:41 AM »

Gangsta, don't know if I should laugh or cry for you dawg...

How does a black man listen to savage anyway...

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #42 on:** July 23, 2011, 08:05:10 AM »

Quote from: njanvi on July 23, 2011, 07:46:41 AM

Gangsta, don't know if I should laugh or cry for you dawg...

How does a black man listen to savage anyway...

Michael Savage has more in common with black people having grown up in the Bronx than Obama does having grown up in cushy Hawaii and prep schools.

Same with me, I am from tyhe Bronx, my whole life, still am. 99% of the time whereever I go I am either one of a few or the only white guy around.

I know a hell of lot more about the struggles of working people than obama, kerry, al gore, hillary, or any of the other limosuine liberals will in ten lifetimes. See the pieces of trash like al gore, kerry, obama, pander to groups no different than palins' etc.

BTW - Savage has a lot of black listeners who call in to his show who dont always agree with him, but he can keep it civil a lot of time.

Parker · « **Reply #43 on:** July 23, 2011, 08:18:15 AM »

Quote from: njanvi on July 23, 2011, 07:46:41 AM

Gangsta, don't know if I should laugh or cry for you dawg...

How does a black man listen to savage anyway...

Epic Irony, huh? I still can't figure it out....he listens to him at night, where ever there is a radio, it's on. He's retired now, so if I come over to help out around the house---guess what's on? And my mom HATES it! And nobody wants to ride in the car with him...because THAT is on, and starts arguments...at least have a moderate show, or listen to C-Span.

He was talking to some old white lady about whatever, and then starts in on Obama, and Obamacare, and all this shit, that had nothing to do with what they hell they were talking about. And that was a last yr. He hated Bush, but not as much as Obama...

Keep in Mind that this is a man who loves old cars, but doesn't want to spend money to mod an old T-bird, so it was towed....now he's retired, so what is he gonna do? He doesn't want to spend money on rebuilding an old car, as the government is cheating out him of money.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #44 on:** July 23, 2011, 08:23:48 AM »

Quote from: GangstaLean on July 23, 2011, 08:18:15 AM

Epic Irony, huh? I still can't figure it out....he listens to him at night, where ever there is a radio, it's on. He's retired now, so if I come over to help out around the house---guess what's on? And my mom HATES it! And nobody wants to ride in the car with him...because THAT is on, and starts arguments...at least have a moderate show, or listen to C-Span.

He was talking to some old white lady about whatever, and then starts in on Obama, and Obamacare, and all this shit, that had nothing to do with what they hell they were talking about. And that was a last yr. He hated Bush, but not as much as Obama...

Keep in Mind that this is a man who loves old cars, but doesn't want to spend money to mod an old T-bird, so it was towed....now he's retired, so what is he gonna do? He doesn't want to spend money on rebuilding an old car, as the government is cheating out him of money.

I like listening to cornel west and tavis smiley. I dont agrere with everything they say, but its far better than the milquetoast pap from many others in the msm

njanvi · « **Reply #45 on:** July 23, 2011, 08:25:47 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 23, 2011, 08:23:48 AM

I like listening to cornel west and tavis smiley. I dont agrere with everything they say, but its far better than the milquetoast pap from many others in the msm

That puts you in the minority, few ever listen to others with different opinions.

I'm all for listening to other point of views, but I choose not listen to those whose agenda is driven by hate and paranoia

maxkane69 · « **Reply #46 on:** July 23, 2011, 08:33:12 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 23, 2011, 06:38:37 AM

Here is a clue and hint to people who dont like savage, fox, masnbc, cnn, etc

TURN THE FUCKING CHANNEL!

MICHEAL SAVAGE IS A RACIST PIECE OF SHIT AND HIS LISTENER ARE BUNCH OF RACIST RETARDS!

njanvi · « **Reply #47 on:** July 23, 2011, 08:35:00 AM »

Quote from: maxkane69 on July 23, 2011, 08:33:12 AM

MICHEAL SAVAGE IS A RACIST PIECE OF SHIT AND HIS LISTENER ARE BUNCH OF RACIST RETARDS!

And just like that, the thread goes from good discussion to typical getbig bs

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #48 on:** July 23, 2011, 08:36:53 AM »

Quote from: maxkane69 on July 23, 2011, 08:33:12 AM

MICHEAL SAVAGE IS A RACIST PIECE OF SHIT AND HIS LISTENER ARE BUNCH OF RACIST RETARDS!

Considering you can't even spell his name right, you really should not be calling others retarded.

Tito24 · « **Reply #49 on:** July 23, 2011, 08:37:25 AM »