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Why does EPA have enuf cash to buy drones?
« Reply #225 on: November 19, 2012, 06:39:39 AM »
wtffff???

http://news.yahoo.com/epa-drones-spy-farmers-nebraska-iowa-150411579.html

burocrats eating money to no good end

this is problem with dems

endless waste

better to lower spending leave money with people and biz

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Re: If obama and dem house and senate and said no to all bailouts
« Reply #226 on: November 19, 2012, 06:58:49 AM »
and ended fanie may
and ended fed
and reduced taxes
and reduced regulations
and balanced budget meaning 0 debt spending
lowered spending until surplus to pay off debt
recession over in 1 year

and usa be in nonstop upward growth spiral due to capitalism

instead opposite 8% unemplyment growing and 18% with non job seekers counted
we also repeat FDR mistake overspending which caused great depression to last 12 years not 1
rememebr grwoth at end of ww2 from lower gov spending since war spending stopped

Boy, a "Top 20" University education sure seems to not be worth very much these days...

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obama needs to end all pensions and unlimited free healthcare
« Reply #227 on: November 19, 2012, 06:59:10 AM »
unearned by unions and others!!

not make it bigger!!

lol

this guy has 0 mandate and i hope repubs say f off to this anchor and anchors in senate

lower spending

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Re: If obama and dem house and senate and said no to all bailouts
« Reply #228 on: November 19, 2012, 07:48:43 AM »
Boy, a "Top 20" University education sure seems to not be worth very much these days...

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #229 on: November 20, 2012, 08:19:23 AM »
the exclusion of the first 250k profit for single or 500k for couple only ever applied to primary residecnce

in the example you gave, if you sell a rental and make a small profit you have the normal capital gains tax and you would only be subject to the addtional tax if you AGI > 200k

i knew you were subject to capital gains rates as it is a code section 1231 asset however i thought you still were subject to the additional tax. 

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #230 on: November 20, 2012, 08:26:38 AM »
A lot of non owners just got schooled in this thread.

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #231 on: November 20, 2012, 08:28:20 AM »
i knew you were subject to capital gains rates as it is a code section 1231 asset however i thought you still were subject to the additional tax. 

nope.  you're right.  only applies to couples with AGI's over $200K.

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #232 on: November 20, 2012, 09:46:47 AM »
oh my!! more incorrect info from the nutty right wingers of the board. Who would have thought they would be wrong? Is there any issue they are even correct on? Benghazi was a dud, the election predictions a farce now repeating patently false information.

You fuckwits are causing the world a lot of problems, let the smart people handle it. The smart people who made your cellphones, medicines, materials etc..

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #234 on: November 20, 2012, 11:23:39 AM »
oh my!! more incorrect info from the nutty right wingers of the board. Who would have thought they would be wrong? Is there any issue they are even correct on? Benghazi was a dud, the election predictions a farce now repeating patently false information.

You fuckwits are causing the world a lot of problems, let the smart people handle it. The smart people who made your cellphones, medicines, materials etc..

LOL!!!

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #235 on: November 20, 2012, 11:27:07 AM »
Well that's perfectly fine because if you make over 200k you're rich and you can afford it.  :D

   Of course the rich pay their own way, didn't have too many kids and didn't buy crap they cannot afford. Seems only fair they should pay for those who make bad decisions

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #236 on: November 20, 2012, 11:58:40 AM »
oh my!! more incorrect info from the nutty right wingers of the board. Who would have thought they would be wrong? Is there any issue they are even correct on? Benghazi was a dud, the election predictions a farce now repeating patently false information.

You fuckwits are causing the world a lot of problems, let the smart people handle it. The smart people who made your cellphones, medicines, materials etc..

yeah we get it.  republicans are bad.  democrats are good.  republicans are dumb.  democrats are smart.  can you go away now?

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #237 on: November 20, 2012, 12:01:02 PM »
oh my!! more incorrect info from the nutty right wingers of the board. Who would have thought they would be wrong? Is there any issue they are even correct on? Benghazi was a dud, the election predictions a farce now repeating patently false information.

You fuckwits are causing the world a lot of problems, let the smart people handle it. The smart people who made your cellphones, medicines, materials etc..

you do understand how fucking stupid this comment is right?  anyone?  anyone?  bueller?

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #238 on: November 20, 2012, 01:51:23 PM »
you do understand how fucking stupid this comment is right?  anyone?  anyone?  bueller?

enlighten me please ::)

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #239 on: November 20, 2012, 02:35:14 PM »
enlighten me please ::)

those smart people who made your phones, medicines, materials, etc.  who exactly are those people?  you understand thats corporate america right?  you know those bad white men who you demonize on a daily basis?  you understand that those luxuries are afforded to you at an affordable price because we haven't let liberal america completely take over this country right?  no you don't understand that.  you're a walking cliche dude.

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #240 on: November 20, 2012, 02:40:13 PM »
also do me a favor go back and look at your posts for the past few months.  is there any issue that you don't agree with the liberal left movement about?  when was the last time you had an original thought?  honestly.

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #241 on: November 20, 2012, 02:46:06 PM »
   Of course the rich pay their own way, didn't have too many kids and didn't buy crap they cannot afford. Seems only fair they should pay for those who make bad decisions

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #242 on: November 20, 2012, 02:49:43 PM »
How do you continuously make such weak and stupid posts?

Do you do research?

Because hes a gimmick who I doubt believes half of what he writes.
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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #243 on: November 20, 2012, 04:30:08 PM »
those smart people who made your phones, medicines, materials, etc.  who exactly are those people?  you understand thats corporate america right?  you know those bad white men who you demonize on a daily basis?  you understand that those luxuries are afforded to you at an affordable price because we haven't let liberal america completely take over this country right?  no you don't understand that.  you're a walking cliche dude.

oh jesus I thought you were going to write a cogent response. I am not a liberal, I am progressive on social issues and conservative in most economic issues.

However, your response is patently false. The smart people ie scientists like physicists discover things like quantum mechanics, particle physics (fact within those theories)etc and apply them to the real world, like lasers, computers and cell phones. Then corporate america buys the technology and whores it. This is where the stupids come in.

The biochemists discover the receptors and create drugs to target these resulting in drugs, the pharmaceutical companies provide the capital to do so and then mark up the drug substantially. They have nothing to do with production of the product, nor are they involved in the research. I could give 100s of other examples but the point is that when stupid people like bachmann, palin, etc get involved they fuck things up. Rubio not knowing the age of the earth yet being on a committee that oversee's science amongst other things is retarded. It's a fact that is required knowledge before leaving highschool.

You appear to be one of these stupids. These products are marked up for a substantial profit, for example xanax a simple benzodiazepine is marked up roughly 1000%, how the fuck is this made affordable to me, seems to me that a greedy fucking company is making an absolute killing.

corporate america is not involved in research, that's science, corporate america are involved in the monetary gain of said research. I have no problem with that but stop insulting the smart people, stupid people like those who get paul reveres story backwards or those who thought benghazi was a scandal should just let smart people handle it.

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #244 on: November 20, 2012, 04:32:25 PM »
also do me a favor go back and look at your posts for the past few months.  is there any issue that you don't agree with the liberal left movement about?  when was the last time you had an original thought?  honestly.

I have my issues with the left movement if you will, however, I have more of an issue with the right's object stupidity lately. They are becoming a group of anti-intellectuals, extremists and appear to hate democracy ie the recent gerrymandering. It's not even a choice any more they have forced anyone with half a brain to fight against them and their bullshit.

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #245 on: November 21, 2012, 02:31:18 AM »
oh jesus I thought you were going to write a cogent response. I am not a liberal, I am progressive on social issues and conservative in most economic issues.

However, your response is patently false. The smart people ie scientists like physicists discover things like quantum mechanics, particle physics (fact within those theories)etc and apply them to the real world, like lasers, computers and cell phones. Then corporate america buys the technology and whores it. This is where the stupids come in.

The biochemists discover the receptors and create drugs to target these resulting in drugs, the pharmaceutical companies provide the capital to do so and then mark up the drug substantially. They have nothing to do with production of the product, nor are they involved in the research. I could give 100s of other examples but the point is that when stupid people like bachmann, palin, etc get involved they fuck things up. Rubio not knowing the age of the earth yet being on a committee that oversee's science amongst other things is retarded. It's a fact that is required knowledge before leaving highschool.

You appear to be one of these stupids. These products are marked up for a substantial profit, for example xanax a simple benzodiazepine is marked up roughly 1000%, how the fuck is this made affordable to me, seems to me that a greedy fucking company is making an absolute killing.

corporate america is not involved in research, that's science, corporate america are involved in the monetary gain of said research. I have no problem with that but stop insulting the smart people, stupid people like those who get paul reveres story backwards or those who thought benghazi was a scandal should just let smart people handle it.

Nice post.
A reply Bear?

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #246 on: November 21, 2012, 08:00:37 AM »
Nice post.
A reply Bear?

Nice post? Are you serious?   I don't even know where to start with this.  You're so typical it's downright scary.
 You quite simply have a child's understanding of how we are able to manufacture and distribute drugs or any product that requires a development stage and hefty amounts of research.  You're trying to imply that the scientists and the "smart people" have no profit motive, and the evil corporations snatch these patents from them and "mark up prices".  You know.  Cuz they're evil.
Let's stay with your drug example.  Two things need to happen in order to get drugs out into the market in order for the general polulation to benefit.  First the drug needs to be created.  This is done by scientists in research labs funded by those evil greedy corporations.  You know.  The "bad guys".Those scientists that you deem the "good guys" come out of school looking for jobs with these corporations so that they can raise a family and take home a fat paycheck and buy the things that they want and need.  You make it sound like they're just sitting in a basement somewhere doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.
Now they have to get these drugs tested, tested, and tested again and again, cleared by the FDA and given the OK to manufacture and distribute.  This all costs money.  You do understand this right?  I don't know anyone who works in that field that works for free.  
Do some of these markups get out of hand?  Yes.  Is it because the corporations are evil and stupid?  Quite simply no.  They have shareholders and employees to pay.  They have research teams to test the safety of the drug over and over and over again so your kid doesn't die when he/she takes said drug.  They have logistical issues with how to manufacture the drugs in mass production and how to get them safely into your little hands.  In order to turn a profit yes a lot of these markups have to be very very high.  And yes none of this shit will be done(and more importantly done right) unless someone is turning a profit.  You liberal lemmings really need to understand this.  This is real life.  Not the feel good movie of the year.  
This is a 3 day seminar type of discussion that we're having but I know (because I'm an adult) that the answer is not as easy as "corporations are bad" and "the smart scientists are good".  You are the typical american voter though so it's hard to blame you.  This is the only information you're given on a daily basis and you simply refuse to take any of this information at face value.  Ridiculous. the difference between you and I is quite simple actually.  You believe in what makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.  I believe in looking at a problem, picking it apart, and making changes that will achieve a desired result.  And the confidence that you have in the dribble that you type on here is what scares me the most.  Because there's millions just like you.

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #247 on: November 21, 2012, 08:12:36 AM »
Nice post? Are you serious?   I don't even know where to start with this.  You're so typical it's downright scary.
 You quite simply have a child's understanding of how we are able to manufacture and distribute drugs or any product that requires a development stage and hefty amounts of research.  You're trying to imply that the scientists and the "smart people" have no profit motive, and the evil corporations snatch these patents from them and "mark up prices".  You know.  Cuz they're evil.
Let's stay with your drug example.  Two things need to happen in order to get drugs out into the market in order for the general polulation to benefit.  First the drug needs to be created.  This is done by scientists in research labs funded by those evil greedy corporations.  You know.  The "bad guys".Those scientists that you deem the "good guys" come out of school looking for jobs with these corporations so that they can raise a family and take home a fat paycheck and buy the things that they want and need.  You make it sound like they're just sitting in a basement somewhere doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.
Now they have to get these drugs tested, tested, and tested again and again, cleared by the FDA and given the OK to manufacture and distribute.  This all costs money.  You do understand this right?  I don't know anyone who works in that field that works for free.  
Do some of these markups get out of hand?  Yes.  Is it because the corporations are evil and stupid?  Quite simply no.  They have shareholders and employees to pay.  They have research teams to test the safety of the drug over and over and over again so your kid doesn't die when he/she takes said drug.  They have logistical issues with how to manufacture the drugs in mass production and how to get them safely into your little hands.  In order to turn a profit yes a lot of these markups have to be very very high.  And yes none of this shit will be done(and more importantly done right) unless someone is turning a profit.  You liberal lemmings really need to understand this.  This is real life.  Not the feel good movie of the year.  
This is a 3 day seminar type of discussion that we're having but I know (because I'm an adult) that the answer is not as easy as "corporations are bad" and "the smart scientists are good".  You are the typical american voter though so it's hard to blame you.  This is the only information you're given on a daily basis and you simply refuse to take any of this information at face value.  Ridiculous. the difference between you and I is quite simple actually.  You believe in what makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.  I believe in looking at a problem, picking it apart, and making changes that will achieve a desired result.  And the confidence that you have in the dribble that you type on here is what scares me the most.  Because there's millions just like you.


Yup sounds about right.
You seem to think that these things is new or hard for others to understand but its common knowledge.
Have you just learned these things for yourself?

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Re: obamacare 4% house tax oh my!!
« Reply #248 on: November 21, 2012, 08:20:02 AM »
Yup sounds about right.
You seem to think that these things is new or hard for others to understand but its common knowledge.
Have you just learned these things for yourself?

you obviously have nothing of any substance to say thats why you're throwing weak insults out in a desperate attempt to save face. i have to get back to work now.  ok buh bye now. 

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Re: Magikusar's daily/weekly musings
« Reply #249 on: November 21, 2012, 08:24:41 AM »
"The biochemists discover the receptors and create drugs to target these resulting in drugs, the pharmaceutical companies provide the capital to do so and then mark up the drug substantially. They have nothing to do with production of the product, nor are they involved in the research. I could give 100s of other examples but the point is that when stupid people like bachmann, palin, etc get involved they fuck things up. Rubio not knowing the age of the earth yet being on a committee that oversee's science amongst other things is retarded. It's a fact that is required knowledge before leaving highschool."

and Necrosis this is by far your most ignorant statement.  you do understand that there are many PHD lab rats who go on to become board members and/or upper management of these corporations that they work for right?  my cousin's husband actually took this exact path.  i don't think he turned evil once he got his appointment to the board.