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In cuba there were no taxes? WTF I have been had!! Cuba superior!!
« Reply #575 on: November 29, 2012, 02:13:54 PM »
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In Communist Cuba, the Tax Man Cometh
Published: Wednesday, 28 Nov 2012 | 3:55 AM ET
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Most Cubans have not paid taxes for half a century, but that will change under a new code starting January 1.


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Havana, Cuba, The Ministry of the Interior located in the Plaza de la Revolucion.


The landmark regulations will change the relations of Cubans with their government and are a signal that market-oriented reforms, launched since President Raul Castro succeeded his brother, Fidel Castro, in 2008, are here to stay.

The recently published code constitutes the first comprehensive taxation in Cuba since the 1959 revolution abolished just about all taxes.

In the 1990s after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the country's main benefactor, the Cuban government imposed a few scattered taxes, but mostly preferred to maintain low wages so it could fund free social services.

The government's free market reforms introduced over the last two years, are designed to encourage small businesses, private farming and individual initiative, along with plans to pay state workers more. Under the new tax code the state hopes to get its share of the proceeds.

The government also envisions replacing subsidies for all with targeted welfare, meaning that the largely tax-free life under a paternalistic government is on its way out.

"This radically changes the state's relationship with the population and taxes become an irritating issue," said Domingo Amuchastegui, a former Cuban intelligence analyst who lives in Miami and writes often about Cuba.

The new code covers 19 taxes, including such things as inheritance, environment, sales, transportation and farm land, various license fees and three contributions, including social security.

A sliding scale income tax - from 15 percent for earnings of more than 10,000 pesos (about $400) annually, to 50 percent for earnings of over 50,000 pesos, (about $2,000) - adopted in 1994, remains in the new code for the self-employed, small businesses and farms, but it also includes a series of new deductions to stimulate their work.

Tax Deductions

For example, farmers may deduct up to 70 percent of income as costs, and small businessmen, who are taxed by income not profit, up to 40 percent, plus various fees and secondary taxes they pay.

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A labor tax of 20 percent will gradually be reduced to 5 percent by 2017, and small businesses with five employees or less are exempt.

Eventually all workers will pay income taxes as well as a new 2 percent property tax, but both measures are suspended until "conditions permit" them to go into effect.

The government admits, with an average pay of about 450 pesos per month, or $19, many workers do not earn enough to make ends meet.

"They collect taxes for all these things around the world, it's normal," said Havana economist Isabel Fernandez.

"But here we face two problems. On the one hand we are not used to paying for anything and on the other our wages are so low we can't spare a single peso," she said.

Under the old system, large and small state-run companies, which accounted for more than 90 percent of economic activity, simply handed over all their revenues to the government, which then allocated resources to them.

The reforms call for large state-run businesses to be moved out of the ministries and become more autonomous.

Under the new tax system they will pay a 35 percent tax on their profits, but can take advantage of a myriad of deductions ranging from amortization and travel to sales taxes, insurance and environmental protection.

Many smaller businesses will become cooperatives or be privately leased and taxed based on income.

The state-owned Cuban National News Agency said Cuba had studied the tax systems of a number of other countries, including several with capitalist economies.

"The experiences of China, Vietnam, Venezuela, Brazil, Spain and Mexico were taken into account, but they were refined to the particularities and conditions of the island," the new agency said.

The new code is not etched in stone - it can be amended each year as part of the annual budget passed by the National Assembly, and temporarily modified for different reasons by the executive branch of government.

"Like the reforms, it is a work in progress, a work that has barely begun and will take time to put in place," said a Western businessman who has worked in Cuba for almost two decades.

But, he added, "this is of course a major step forward toward the 21st century and a modern state."
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Re: In cuba there were no taxes? WTF I have been had!! Cuba superior!!
« Reply #576 on: November 29, 2012, 02:20:21 PM »
feel free to move ASAP


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Re: Magikusar's daily/weekly musings
« Reply #577 on: November 29, 2012, 02:40:21 PM »
Jeez I can't post anything but they post it in this 1 thread.

I can't believe no taxes in cuba.
wow

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Re: Magikusar's daily/weekly musings
« Reply #578 on: November 29, 2012, 04:17:58 PM »

Cutting government spending will fix all this.

Huh?

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Re: Magikusar's daily/weekly musings
« Reply #579 on: November 29, 2012, 05:23:50 PM »
I at times try to sit down and observe things to understand democrats.

I can understand a few things.

There is inequality.

Some CEO makes 100million while worker get 50k, and after tax, 40k

So if you see history are a struggle for workers to simply be paid more equally, I can understand voting democrat.

I struggle with this ideologically, honestly.

If for example Obama care said ok we are going to build 5 new hospitals in each state.  The hospitals like public schools will be funded by the feds.   Private hospitals can compete all they want.
We are also going to pay to train 100 doctors for each hospital.  We will negotiate liek a giant fund for equipment etc.
I mean here I could see something good being done with the tax money.

To a certain extent I could see this with trains as well.
I am going to skip any negative ideas that pop up and move on.

Same with housing.  Government could say ok we are going find a cheap dome house design, and build say x number of them and sell them for profit.  This is in competition with whatever is already around.

I can understand the democrat view.

You are tired of CEO getting 100mil while common man is left with jack.

I am kind of emotionaly mulling this over now.

No I am not drunk.





I am a Democrat. I have no issues with CEO's making money as long as they do it fair and square. What I take issue with is the inequity and complete disregard for the workers who are actually the people making the products which produce the profits for the shareholders and CEO's. Fortunately, there are many successful businesses where there is respect for the employees as well as profits for the investors and CEO who oversee that investment. Unfortunately, there are also many businesses who make a profit off the backs of their employees.

Your wage comparison is not really accurate when applied to some businesses.  For example, Walmart CEO Michael Duke makes $35 million a year, while front-line employees earn $8.75 an hour and most work part-time with no benefits. And they are doing well as compared to factory workers in Bangladesh.

Bangladesh Factory Fire: Workers Burn, Walmart Ducks Responsibility. The  fire this weekend at the Tazreen factory outside Dhaka, Bangladesh, which killed more than 110 of the 1,000-plus workers, bears the stamp of some of the world’s most iconic fashion labels. According to labor advocates, the Western brands linked to the factory included Disney, Sears, Dickies, Sean Combs's Enyce and Walmart's Faded Glory.

According to initial reports, the workplace was fraught with fire-safety issues, including the lack of a viable road for rescue workers to approach the facility and a lack of safety exits. Before workers could flee, some managers reportedly “stopped them running to safety after the fire alarm had gone off.”

The average monthly wages of Bangladeshi garment factory workers is even less than one-third of the global average, in spite of the fact that the high-quality stitching by Bangladesh’s female workers pleases overseas buyers.

A recent global survey of the world’s garment industries by the US-based consulting house, the Jassin-O’Rourke Group, shows that a Bangladeshi garment worker gets only 22 US cents per hour.

A garment worker receives 33 cents in Cambodia, 38 cents in Vietnam, 37 cents in Pakistan, 43 cents in Sri Lanka, 44 cents in Indonesia, 51 cents in India, 86 cents in China, $1.07 in the Philippines and $1.18 in Malaysia.

‘On average the garment factory workers’ wages in Bangladesh are extremely low,’ acknowledged a senior executive of a US-based buying house stationed in Dhaka.

The next time you purchase something to wear, check the label to see where it was made. Companies out source to keep profits high and to remain as competitive as possible in the market place. We people who readily purchase goods on the cheap without regard to the slave labor that went into making them are also responsible for the problems caused by out sourcing labor, including the impact on the U.S. economy and on the labor market worldwide.

It is unrealistic to think all people everywhere will ever be treated equally. Human nature isn't given to fairness for the most part. However, it would be good if, as a society, we could progress to the point where we at least treat others humanely and respectfully.

So often we think of these things in absolutes. There are no absolutes. There will probably always be rich folks and there will be those less fortunate. That's just the way it is. Life isn't fair. In no way am I suggesting all CEO's are overpaid or that all workers are underpaid. However, it is concerning that the gap between the very wealthy and the very poor is widening, while those people in the middle are diminishing. The strength of the U.S. and it's economy is in it having a strong middle class. When all that is left is a very small percentage of the very wealthy (1%) and a huge percentage (99%) of the very poor we are in trouble....not to forget that throughout history when this has happened the poor have revolted. Les Miserables re-imagined as the poor in the U.S. revolting against the wealthy as with the "Occupy" 99% folks who have not gone away by any means.


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« Reply #580 on: November 29, 2012, 05:56:52 PM »
To a certain extent I could see this with trains as well.
I am going to skip any negative ideas that pop up and move on.

Same with housing.  Government could say ok we are going find a cheap dome house design, and build say x number of them and sell them for profit.  This is in competition with whatever is already around.


Having been born and living in the east during the early part of my life, I had the pleasure of enjoying train travel. I miss it. Today, it is cheaper to get on a plane to go somewhere then it is to take the train. As a result, we miss seeing so much of our country. If there were something I could change, it would be the ability for folks to travel by train when going some distance. Living in Albion, MI when I was eight years old, it was not uncommon for us to hop a train into Detroit. My maternal grandparents lived in South Orange, New Jersey. Sometimes, I would travel by train to see them. Today, folks drive their car for these kinds of trips or if the distance is too great, they fly. They have no clue what they are missing.

I live in a Portland suburb that is filled with McMansions. Many people's housing expectations today are completely unrealistic. For proof just watch HGTV's show House Hunters. People looking for a place to live, whine about the lack of granite counter tops in the kitchen or a absence of a room for every possible activity.

My parents were relatively well off. The homes we lived in would not meet muster today and yet they provided comfort and shelter then. As I remember, the homes my parents had were extremely small by today's standards, usually about 1,700 sq ft or less. Being as how most of the time I was growing up, I was an only child, having 3 bedrooms and 2 baths was more than enough for us. The living room was actually a place where we hung out.

This year's Street of Dreams houses were built about a mile from my home. They all had over 4,000 sq. ft with some approaching 5,000 sq. ft. The least expensive of these properties was $1,300,000. It only has 3 bedrooms, but two very large entertaining spaces and a kitchen that is bigger than some homes. Literally thousands of people visit the Street of Dreams each year while it is open to the public for about a month in the summer and before the homes are sold. Next year's Street of Dreams homes are already being built and they are about 2 miles in north of where I live. They promise to be even more elaborate and more expensive than last years houses.

Just so you know, by comparison, my home is very modest at just under 3,000 sq. ft. Never-the-less, it is ridiculously large for my wife and I and our two dogs with 4 bedrooms and 3 baths. And also, just so you know, I am not over-leveraged here as I own this home outright.

I am all for more modest homes being built....as in affordable housing. Unfortunately, there isn't as much profit in affordable housing and there isn't as much market for it in the U.S.

My son lives in Germany. He and his wife had their home built. They had to pay off the land and come up with a very big down payment prior to starting construction. Their home is modest, if not humble by U.S. standards, although much better built. However, the cost to build a home in Germany is much higher than it is here. People in the U.S. are definitely spoiled when it comes to housing.

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McConnell 'Burst Into Laughter' as Geithner Outlined Obama's Plan
« Reply #581 on: November 29, 2012, 08:27:41 PM »
Mitch McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, says he “burst into laughter” Thursday when Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner outlined the administration proposal for averting the fiscal cliff.  He wasn’t trying to embarrass Geithner, McConnell says, only responding candidly to his one-sided plan, explicit on tax increases, vague on spending cuts.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/mcconnell-burst-laughter-geithner-outlined-obamas-plan_664210.html

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Re: Magikusar's daily/weekly musings
« Reply #582 on: November 29, 2012, 08:35:15 PM »
I think the tek is here.

Its getting housing made that seems to be the trouble.

cheap

without huge prices and massive loans

I do think if you work from 9 to 1 at wal mart you dont deserve that much.

yes the people in factories should make way more, as they create the goods, once given amtierial machines and other capital, which are far more important than thier labor which is msotly unskilled

I think manufacturing should coem abck to USA and massive import taxes could be a way to get rid of deficits.

This does not solve the problem of what governmetn spending money on.

16,000 irs agents for obama care is silly

thats a power grab not an addition to the supply of the needed good: medical care

obama care should trains 100s of docs per state and build a hospital per I dunno 100k people or something

THAT would HELP the supply

makign thing plentiful lowers the prices

the tek is already here, its the looting without producing that needs to stop and yes the inequality of loot distribution

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REPORT: Bill Clinton sought to meet old mistress, offered to wear hoodie...
« Reply #583 on: November 29, 2012, 08:51:17 PM »
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/28/inside-the-beltway-bill-and-the-hoodie/

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Two decades have passed since nightclub entertainer and blond bombshell Gennifer Flowers stepped before cameras and announced she had a 12-year affair with then-Gov. Bill Clinton, joining a roster of attractive women who reported similar dalliances, wanted and unwanted. Miss Flowers has stepped forward once again to reveal that in 2005, Mr. Clinton offered to come visit her once again.

“I picked up the telephone, and it was him. I said, ‘No, you can’t come over here. No way.’ I said ‘No, you can’t come to my house.’ He said, ‘I’ll put on a hoodie and jog up there.’ He used to do that. I said ‘No. No. And I want you to leave me alone.’ And that was the end of it,” said Miss Flowers, now 62, as she sipped wine and laughed languidly through an interview with WGNO, an ABC affiliate in New Orleans.

She also had advice for Paula Broadwell, still generating scandalous news coverage of her affair with former CIA Director David H. Petraeus.

“Call me, Paula,” Miss Flowers said, miming a phone to her ear. “I’ll give you some really good advice.”

The self-described “cougar,” author and motivational speaker, incidentally, is currently shopping around a new reality show titled “The Real Housewives of New Orleans,” in which she plays herself.

“I’m always looking for romance,” she explains.


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GOP Rejects Obama Offer of $1.6 Trillion Tax Hike Read Latest Breaking News f
« Reply #584 on: November 29, 2012, 09:45:29 PM »
President Barack Obama offered Republicans a $1.6 trillion tax increase, a $50 billion economic-stimulus program and the power to raise the federal debt limit without congressional approval as a his basis for talks to avoid looming tax increases and spending cuts.

 But Congressional Republicans quickly and summarily rejected the idea, reports The Wall Street Journal.

 House Speaker John Boehner earlier Thursday told reporters Obama must “get serious” about the fiscal cliff while adding he remained “hopeful” about talks aimed at averting more than $600 billion in spending cuts and tax increases.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/gop-rejects-obama-tax/2012/11/29/id/465909#ixzz2DgLEIinn

 ::) democrats doing ole ask for 20 when you want 10?

never a word about cutting spending wow, or even better REALLOCATING spending that already is plenty?

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/gop-rejects-obama-tax/2012/11/29/id/465909

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THIS JUST IN Author Gutfeld: Mainstream Media Biased Against Conservatives
« Reply #585 on: November 29, 2012, 10:00:58 PM »
http://www.newsmax.com/US/gutfeld-joy-hate-media/2012/11/29/id/465889

duh

The mainstream media has a double standard in how it treats figures on the left and right, showing favoritism to liberals, says Greg Gutfeld, author of the new book, “The Joy of Hate: How to Triumph over the Whiners in the Age of Phony Outrage.”

 Many people “who claim to be open-minded are only open-minded until they meet somebody who they disagree with,” he tells John Bachman of Newsmax TV. “You see this most amongst the left. . . . Every day there is a new example of the left shouting at the right about something while ignoring their inadequacies and their own idiocy.”

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/US/gutfeld-joy-hate-media/2012/11/29/id/465889#ixzz2DgPMLGge



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Re: GOP Rejects Obama Offer of $1.6 Trillion Tax Hike Read Latest Breaking News f
« Reply #586 on: November 29, 2012, 10:31:42 PM »
Sounds like a good deal

Repubs will regret not taking it

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Re: Magikusar's daily/weekly musings
« Reply #587 on: November 29, 2012, 10:55:16 PM »
I must be getting senile. For some reason, I am having a heck of a time comprehending your "plain English" in the above post, so much so, that I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you help me out?

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Re: Magikusar's daily/weekly musings
« Reply #588 on: November 29, 2012, 11:11:01 PM »
We just finished watching the second half of The Dust Bowl. This is a PBS production covering what happened during the Great Depression in a large area of the country known as the dust bowl. There are some parallels between that situation and our current economic problems. However, we clearly have it good compared to folks then.

It is available On Demand if you have Xfinity/Comcast, but hurry because it ends on December 2, 2012.

Watch The Dust Bowl videos on demand. Stream full episodes online. The Dust Bowl chronicles the worst man-made ecological disaster in American history, in which the frenzied wheat boom of the Great Plow-Up, followed by a decade-long drought during the 1930s nearly swept away the breadbasket of the nation.  http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/

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Re: Magikusar's daily/weekly musings
« Reply #589 on: November 29, 2012, 11:32:50 PM »
I think the tek is here.

Its getting housing made that seems to be the trouble.

cheap

without huge prices and massive loans

I do think if you work from 9 to 1 at wal mart you dont deserve that much.

yes the people in factories should make way more, as they create the goods, once given amtierial machines and other capital, which are far more important than thier labor which is msotly unskilled

I think manufacturing should coem abck to USA and massive import taxes could be a way to get rid of deficits.

This does not solve the problem of what governmetn spending money on.

16,000 irs agents for obama care is silly

thats a power grab not an addition to the supply of the needed good: medical care

obama care should trains 100s of docs per state and build a hospital per I dunno 100k people or something

THAT would HELP the supply

makign thing plentiful lowers the prices

the tek is already here, its the looting without producing that needs to stop and yes the inequality of loot distribution

I am going to take a stab at some of what I think you are trying to say in this post.

A Walmart neighborhood market (not a big box superstore) opened this year in West Linn, OR, were I live. When they were hiring all the positions were part time with no benefits. These leads one to believe that working "9 to 1" is the only option if you wanted a job there. Interestingly enough, I was told that during the interviews the interviewers offered applicants information about where to get public assistance and food stamps since the jobs they offer keep people below the poverty level. Their business here appears to slow at this particular store.

Have you ever tried making a shirt or a pair of pants? I have and I am not so sure that good seamstresses as they folks are described as being is unskilled. It may not be rocket science, but it does require skills.

Construction workers in Oregon are often Latinos who will work for less. Builders make the profits, but to be fair they also take the risks. Building materials are very expensive. I am not sure cheap housing is a possibility today. I am pretty sure you aren't rooting for government subsidized affordable housing, right?

I doubt President Obama is qualified to train doctors. Is he an MD? You seem to think our President is some kind of dictator with absolute powers. He isn't. In case you haven't noticed the U.S. isn't a dictatorship.

OK, that is about all I can decipher from what you posted.

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Re: GOP Rejects Obama Offer of $1.6 Trillion Tax Hike Read Latest Breaking News f
« Reply #590 on: November 30, 2012, 12:04:20 AM »
I guess when Obama said he would go line by line of budget spending and make cuts in 2008 he lied?  Can't believe people voted for him for another 4 years.  ::)

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Re: McConnell 'Burst Into Laughter' as Geithner Outlined Obama's Plan
« Reply #591 on: November 30, 2012, 05:10:24 AM »
Mitch McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, says he “burst into laughter” Thursday when Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner outlined the administration proposal for averting the fiscal cliff.  He wasn’t trying to embarrass Geithner, McConnell says, only responding candidly to his one-sided plan, explicit on tax increases, vague on spending cuts.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/mcconnell-burst-laughter-geithner-outlined-obamas-plan_664210.html

mcconnel needs some cardio

McConnell needs a bullet.

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Re: THIS JUST IN Author Gutfeld: Mainstream Media Biased Against Conservatives
« Reply #592 on: November 30, 2012, 05:15:53 AM »
http://www.newsmax.com/US/gutfeld-joy-hate-media/2012/11/29/id/465889

duh

The mainstream media has a double standard in how it treats figures on the left and right, showing favoritism to liberals, says Greg Gutfeld, author of the new book, “The Joy of Hate: How to Triumph over the Whiners in the Age of Phony Outrage.”

 Many people “who claim to be open-minded are only open-minded until they meet somebody who they disagree with,” he tells John Bachman of Newsmax TV. “You see this most amongst the left. . . . Every day there is a new example of the left shouting at the right about something while ignoring their inadequacies and their own idiocy.”

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So his book is called "How to triumph over whiners..." and then he himself starts whining about the left?
He cant see hyp/ironyif it hits him on the head.

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Re: GOP Rejects Obama Offer of $1.6 Trillion Tax Hike Read Latest Breaking News f
« Reply #593 on: November 30, 2012, 05:29:48 AM »
Sounds like a good deal

Repubs will regret not taking it

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Re: THIS JUST IN Author Gutfeld: Mainstream Media Biased Against Conservatives
« Reply #594 on: November 30, 2012, 07:37:19 AM »
The guy's a knob. Read Pat Buchanan instead.

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Re: McConnell 'Burst Into Laughter' as Geithner Outlined Obama's Plan
« Reply #595 on: November 30, 2012, 07:38:10 AM »
McConnell needs a bullet.

Agreed but I'd like him to do it himself

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Re: McConnell 'Burst Into Laughter' as Geithner Outlined Obama's Plan
« Reply #596 on: November 30, 2012, 07:42:09 AM »
McConnell needs a bullet.

Sending to DHS. 

Have fun w that buddy. 

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Re: McConnell 'Burst Into Laughter' as Geithner Outlined Obama's Plan
« Reply #597 on: November 30, 2012, 07:46:47 AM »
McConnell needs a bullet.

Most of Congress as well.

Actually, let us not waste precious resources, a nice hit with a claw hammer will do.

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Re: McConnell 'Burst Into Laughter' as Geithner Outlined Obama's Plan
« Reply #598 on: November 30, 2012, 07:47:50 AM »
Sending to DHS. 

Have fun w that buddy. 

No problem ill send them some of your Obama posts then they can come looking for the both of us ;D

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Re: McConnell 'Burst Into Laughter' as Geithner Outlined Obama's Plan
« Reply #599 on: November 30, 2012, 07:48:59 AM »
Most of Congress as well.

Actually, let us not waste precious resources, a nice hit with a claw hammer will do.

You get your third +1 from me for this week for that one ;)