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Re: S&P downgrades US to AA+
« Reply #75 on: August 07, 2011, 06:57:59 PM »
You guys should get to sleep so you can wake up early tomorrow and continue to obsessively bash Obama on the bodybuilding message boards.
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Re: S&P downgrades US to AA+
« Reply #76 on: August 07, 2011, 07:07:08 PM »
You guys should get to sleep so you can wake up early tomorrow and continue to obsessively bash Obama on the bodybuilding message boards.
is that why youre so good a deflecting and knee padding?

you get your beauty rest? ;)


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Re: S&P downgrades US to AA+
« Reply #77 on: August 07, 2011, 07:21:04 PM »
You guys should get to sleep so you can wake up early tomorrow and continue to obsessively bash Obama on the bodybuilding message boards.

Another shitty troll that never actually refutes anything and instead has to rely on failed attempts at personal insults.

Seen it tried a million times before by gimmicks and trolls more intelligent than you. They were both irrelevant and ineffective and so are you.  :)

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Re: S&P downgrades US to AA+
« Reply #78 on: August 07, 2011, 07:31:40 PM »
China Isn't Exactly Floating The Yuan But...

Earlier we speculated that the one thing that could throw this whole fiasco into a complete tailspin is for China to float the renminbi, which would catch an already frazzled America unawares, as China submits a formal bid for its currency to become the de facto global reserve. Well, that didn't quite happen. However, at a massive 0.23% change in the fixed overnight rate, a move that very much hurts China, it is about as symbolic of an intraday change as can be. The PBoC set the Monday USDCNY fixing at a record high of 6.4305, up from 6.4451. While it is unknown whether this near record rate of FX change will be sustained, China just sent a very clear message to the US, following the previously noted opeds in both Xinhua and FT, in which various Chinese individuals blasted the current situation America finds itself in. The only question now is whether China will proceed with a very demonstrative dump of US bonds tomorrow to reinforce the purely political statement it just made in FX.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/china-isnt-exactly-floating-yuan



Funny thing is that China's economy is heading for the cliff, too. Factor that in with their rampant corruption and book cooking that makes the US's look like child's play and they have zero chance of replacing the dollar with the Yuan. Not that they're going to try.

Thanks, Obama!

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Re: S&P downgrades US to AA+
« Reply #79 on: August 08, 2011, 05:33:27 AM »
Obama can add another to his mantle: The man who got the US downgraded to AA.

Congrats, God-King! Keep up the good work destroying saving America!

Yup, it is natural for the dems to blame the repubs, but the truth is that Obama will go down in history as the president on whose watch the US got downgraded to AA for the first time in history.

That and many other things, like the highest unemployment rate for black men in the US ever.  

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Re: S&P downgrades US to AA+
« Reply #80 on: August 08, 2011, 07:48:56 AM »
 
You guys should get to sleep so you can wake up early tomorrow and continue to obsessively bash Obama on the bodybuilding message boards.

Let's see........

Take politics out of the equation and look at this from a typical person point of view:

-  Very high gas prices
-  increased food prices
-  very high unemployment
-  now our credit rating is AA for the first time in history
-  because of the clean air act pur energy costs are likely to rise 25%
-  we are still in 2 wars and more or less in a third


I am sure the list could go on and on and all you have respond with is ridiculing people for bashing OB on a message board?  ::)
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Re: S&P downgrades US to AA+
« Reply #81 on: August 08, 2011, 02:10:17 PM »
President Obama: "The Buck Stops Elsewhere"
Eric Cantor, Majority Leader ^ | 8/8/11 | Brian Patrick




FYI –

Once again, when it comes to President Obama, the buck stops somewhere else.


•John Harwood: “Do you feel that you or the administration’s policies are in any way responsible for this downgrade?”

•Secretary Geithner: “Absolutely not. You’ve seen the president work incredibly hard and make really amazing progress trying to heal the damage caused by this terrible crisis. And you saw him work his heart out to try and bring both parties together to reach agreement on a long-term fiscal deal. Made some progress, didn’t solve it all, but a very good down payment.” (The New York Times, 8/8/11)

The Facts:
 

•Since Taking Office, President Obama Has Added $3.9 Trillion To The Debt. (TreasuryDirect.gov, 8/8/11)

•President Obama Chose To Ignore The Biggest Drivers Of The Nation’s Debt In His Budget. President Obama, in his fiscal 2012 budget proposal, chose instead to duck. To duck, and to mask some of the ducking with the sort of budgetary gimmicks he once derided. "The fiscal realities we face require hard choices," the president said in his budget message. (The Washington Post, 2/15/11)

•The President’s Budget Assumes An Additional $9.5 Trillion In Deficits Over The Next 10 Years. (CBO, April 2011)

•The Administration Made Clear They Planned To Ignore The Debt Crisis Altogether By Calling For A Clean Debt Limit Increase. “... we believe that we should move quickly to raise the debt limit and we support a clean piece of legislation to do that. (Press Briefing, 4/11/11)

•Under President Obama The Debt To GDP Ratio Has Soared. They boosted federal spending to 25% of GDP in 2009, 23.8% in 2010 (as TARP repayments provided a temporary reduction in overall spending), and back nearly to 25% this fiscal year. Meanwhile, debt to GDP climbed to 53.5% in 2009, 62.2% in 2010, and is estimated to hit 72% this year—and to keep rising. These are all figures from Mr. Obama's own budget office. Rather than change direction this year, Mr. Obama's main political focus has been to preserve those spending levels by raising taxes. His initial budget in February for fiscal 2012 proposed higher spending. (The Wall Street Journal, 8/8/11)

•For Thought: President Obama Has Increased The Debt At Nearly Three Times The Rate President Bush Did. “During Obama's presidency to date, the national debt has risen by an average of $1.723 trillion a year — or by a jaw-dropping $1.116 trillion more, per year, than it rose even under Bush. .. In his first two fiscal years, Obama will run up a total of $2.826 trillion in deficit spending ($1.294 trillion in 2010, an estimated $1.267 trillion in 2011 (p. 23), and the $265 billion in "stimulus" money that was spent in 2009). Thus, Bush ran up an average of $410 billion in deficit spending per year, while Obama is running up an average of $1.413 trillion in deficit spending per year — or $1.003 trillion a year more than Bush.” (NPR, 1/25/11)

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Re: S&P downgrades US to AA+
« Reply #82 on: August 08, 2011, 02:34:25 PM »
Yup, it is natural for the dems to blame the repubs, but the truth is that Obama will go down in history as the president on whose watch the US got downgraded to AA for the first time in history.

 


Yep, definitely something will be hearing again late next year.  :D