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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #100 on: August 21, 2011, 07:40:38 PM »
He said FST 7. Thats ramrods boys. So Fridge, Philsulin or other top pros he has.
kevin english, jason huh, and tamer el-guindy are the other notables.

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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #101 on: August 21, 2011, 08:35:08 PM »
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« Reply #102 on: August 21, 2011, 08:54:04 PM »
  The pros just take everything that everyone else takes except more than the average juicer. They don't take more than the worst abusers among non-pros, though. I know guys who take almost a gram a day. Yes, a day. I doubt the pros take more than this. Maybe a litte more, but I doubt it. The pros are limited in taking to what is available. Every drug that is available to the pros is in the market for everyone else. It's not like the pros are in secret programs of pharmaceutical companies taking experimental drugs that no one has access to. They take steroids, GH, insulin, IGF-1, thyroid hormones, diuretics and amphetamines. That is, everything that is available to everyone else. You guys should stop being retards and think that the pros have "secret" drugs that no one else has access to.

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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #103 on: August 21, 2011, 09:10:07 PM »
 The pros just take everything that everyone else takes except more than the average juicer. They don't take more than the worst abusers among non-pros, though. I know guys who take almost a gram a day. Yes, a day. I doubt the pros take more than this. Maybe a litte more, but I doubt it. The pros are limited in taking to what is available. Every drug that is available to the pros is in the market for everyone else. It's not like the pros are in secret programs of pharmaceutical companies taking experimental drugs that no one has access to. They take steroids, GH, insulin, IGF-1, thyroid hormones, diuretics and amphetamines. That is, everything that is available to everyone else. You guys should stop being retards and think that the pros have "secret" drugs that no one else has access to.

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but who would want to put themselves through all those injects month after month year after year for a trophy and some chump change?  Think of all the injects and scar tissue that would develop, do they want to commit a long drawn out suicide?

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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #104 on: August 21, 2011, 09:18:22 PM »
Personally I dont think the choices of drugs matter that much when it comes to the steroids. Many roads lead to Rome and even gh15 has said this.  The most important thing is  GH and as much as you can afford. From there it doesnt matter dianaboloa TNE equipona testo deca tren whatever just take alot.

Here is example.  One of the best gym bodybuilders I ever saw in my life  told me he based his cycles around eq and deca. His typical bulking cycle was this.

pharma gh (wouldnt tell me dosage and i didnt want to be rude by asking, but he said use as much as you can afford )
1 gram of nandrolone
1 gram of equipona
200mg suspension every day for 4 weeks as a kickstart  then oral dbol for 4 weeks. he would do this back and forth back and forth as he believed orals start makinig you go backward and hinder muscle growth after more than few weeks due to liver stress ;D  (he really said that with a straight face btw)
didnt talk about insulin.

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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #105 on: August 21, 2011, 09:35:13 PM »
Personally I dont think the choices of drugs matter that much when it comes to the steroids. Many roads lead to Rome and even gh15 has said this.  The most important thing is  GH and as much as you can afford. From there it doesnt matter dianaboloa TNE equipona testo deca tren whatever just take alot.

Here is example.  One of the best gym bodybuilders I ever saw in my life  told me he based his cycles around eq and deca. His typical bulking cycle was this.

pharma gh (wouldnt tell me dosage and i didnt want to be rude by asking, but he said use as much as you can afford )
1 gram of nandrolone
1 gram of equipona
200mg suspension every day for 4 weeks as a kickstart  then oral dbol for 4 weeks. he would do this back and forth back and forth as he believed orals start makinig you go backward and hinder muscle growth after more than few weeks due to liver stress ;D  (he really said that with a straight face btw)
didnt talk about insulin.



Thats an awesome bulking cycle, would he use any other Test after the 4 weeks of Suspension is over?

I think with orals some people lose appetite when on too much oral and dont eat like they could and that doesnt help when you are bulking
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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #106 on: August 21, 2011, 09:49:47 PM »
lol what a fucking joke of a "sport"...seriously, how can someone afford those products and at those dosages.

WTF...All that is required is MONEY. You got money = you become a "pro" ::). "genetics"..."talent".."hard work"...my ass.  ::)

BFG, whats the approximate amount of money spent over a year on "suppplements"?

all drugs n all money , it fun ,, you need th passion to spend fucking insane ,, i still did not recover from last contest financially lol

 genetic made you save money ,  since i got none i spend even more
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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #107 on: August 21, 2011, 10:07:23 PM »
Thats an awesome bulking cycle, would he use any other Test after the 4 weeks of Suspension is over?

I think with orals some people lose appetite when on too much oral and dont eat like they could and that doesnt help when you are bulking

If he did he didnt mention it. I dont think so though, he told me he never was a fan of any other test other than suspension and he told me that all I needed was 10mg dbol a day to keep my libido up without test. (which I found to be true for me knock on wood)

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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #108 on: August 21, 2011, 11:26:35 PM »

 genetic made you save money ,  since i got none i spend even more

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« Reply #109 on: August 21, 2011, 11:43:19 PM »
This type of cycling will lead most into narcotic use as well. You're either too lethargic to function without help or too hyper to sleep without help. And always in pain.  :D

see this^^

read it over and over,,some fellas need to sleep because they dont have all day to play around with their balls they need to have life beside going one hour to gym,,then some are too letargic and need to be able to stay awake just to function ,, so you either ned something to stay awake or to fall asleep ,, because if you sont work and dont do nothing yes you  can fall asleep at 10 am in morning and be ok wake up 6 pm and hoopla to gym or whatevr your heart desire,, but when you LIVE off bodybuild,, when you try to make it ,, when you do bodybuild and have nooooo supportive family or no family at all and you need to get money to live life and pay and do the all life thing which is basically breathing air... when you need to do it  you need your sleep and you need your awake time,, and this what brings narcotics into picture,, forget about drinking which is weird and kill you straight out but many do and you can do notihgn about,, but the narcotic usage is so pupular it is scary ,, it just make one forget lots of things,, make you painless,, give you high when need,, help you lose all the fat you need while retaniing all muscle and even growing,, get you into rugged sandy condition ,, and some fellas stop at nothing im tellin you ,,

this is why van b sentence above is a very important one,, he is right! you see all those fellas that take mega dosing ,, this and that hormones of all kind aas ,, hgh ,,insulina,, then you got fat burners and it all takes its toll on mental stability slowly but safely ....and you got to stabelize it somehow,, this is when they turn to narcotics,, that in the short run help but in the long run RUIN their lives,, and the lives who been ruined are so many i dont have enough space on getbig.com to write you how many lives were ruined by narcotics,, but yes narcotics and hormones are known to create grea conditioning ...only one that falls from within and lead to lots of health problems,, kidny and liver related ,, heart related,, all the deaths you hear about has something to do with narcotics in majority of them ,,

the poor steroids are the ones who get blamed when in reality the fellas were addict to narcotics and booz,, ofcourse they will drop dead,, who woudnt? you fuckin take hormones...you go out drinking...and on top of that you make sure you sniff your cocaine,,this is losing life on the fast run ,, some are lucky to be saved ,, many are not,,

be careful with narcotics ,, it is not good for bodybuilding,, it is quick fix,,

you can always tell a bodybuilder from his eyes,, i dotn want to name names...but the high is in the eyes,, you know who they are...

pain killers and narcotics in general are favorite among many bodybuilders for many reasons,, from anxiety to just being able to function ,,

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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #110 on: August 22, 2011, 01:19:38 AM »
Tbombz is spot on bro. He may very well be the most knowledgable poster on getbig. Just cause he does not look like a pro due to his mediocre response to drugs does not mean he knows less than anyone else. This will be my last post backing up tbombz as I have done it enough :D, but the only reason everyone on getbig disagrees with him is because its "Taylor". And they cant stand the fact that a 22 year old knows more than them which makes no sense to me. Maybe if they actually listened they would get somewhere instead of waiting for the next "BFG" to come along and tell them something that they will never have to concern themselves with in the first place.



Isn't that an important point though, it doesnt matter how technical you want to get, you either have the genetics or you don't, people overcomplicate things. Ultimately Taylor looks bad, so for him to be so condescending to others is quite humerous.
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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #111 on: August 22, 2011, 01:32:05 AM »
but who would want to put themselves through all those injects month after month year after year for a trophy and some chump change?  Think of all the injects and scar tissue that would develop, do they want to commit a long drawn out suicide?



Some people just turn around one day and say to themselves "I want to be the best no matter what it takes". Arnold was one of them.

Until the 1990's Olympic athletes were required to be amateurs, which meant many would be living hand-to-mouth.  

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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #112 on: August 22, 2011, 01:51:28 AM »
Great info as always on getbig.

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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #113 on: August 22, 2011, 07:58:28 AM »
No they dont and Im not impressed.  Look I've talked to numerous guys about this, and I really dont know where it came from probably that  Gavin Kane  leunatic.  Do you think pros are lollygagging around trying to mimiick what happened to their body during puberty? ::) If you really think that you going from a 130 pound 14 year old to 160 pound 18 year old adult was all because of a few gh spurts you are highly mistaken. Do you really think dorian...DORIAN the bahamoth, would of been the size he was if it were not for the massive amounts of sereostim he used each day? Something to keep in mind is AIDS patients. Many of them are given 18 iu a day just to stay alive and end up looking like semi muscular fellas in the process. Now how can you justify that ed shots are a waste? I would be willing to bet good money if I asked gh15 right now, he would say the gh was always there every 4 hours on the clock every day. At least thats what every good bodybuilder I know does :D

flintstones, just 2 things..

First bold - look in the bible. GH15 talks about mimicking what happened when we were going through our growth spurts growing up, with your GH dosing. Play around with it. Never the same from shot to shot!

Second bold - I'm still trying to find where BFG has mentioned ed shots are a waste. Link me so I can read.

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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #114 on: August 22, 2011, 08:05:03 AM »
No they dont and Im not impressed.


ahahahahahaha what the fuck do you know- your 18. quit talking all the time like you know something. you know jack shit. im really getting tired of you, kid.
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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #115 on: August 22, 2011, 08:12:33 AM »
lol what a fucking joke of a "sport"...seriously, how can someone afford those products and at those dosages.

WTF...All that is required is MONEY. You got money = you become a "pro" ::). "genetics"..."talent".."hard work"...my ass.  ::)

BFG, whats the approximate amount of money spent over a year on "suppplements"?
I think that you actually need them to become pro
genetics - you need them to run this cycles and not drop dead...
talent - to get with the right people at the right time ( for best quality hormones)
hard work- pinning all this shit daily, hell this real fucking hard work

bodybuilding gets nasty daily, but i still like it  ;D

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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #116 on: August 22, 2011, 08:34:12 AM »
but who would want to put themselves through all those injects month after month year after year for a trophy and some chump change?  Think of all the injects and scar tissue that would develop, do they want to commit a long drawn out suicide?



yes, of course there's an underlyphing psychotic disorder with most of these "pros".
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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #117 on: August 22, 2011, 08:58:11 AM »
ahahahahahaha what the fuck do you know- your 18. quit talking all the time like you know something. you know jack shit. im really getting tired of you, kid.


are you still taking it up the ass from Massive G while you suck on Groink's titties?  :D and Im not 18 you stupid fuck ::)  go ask g101 we have pmed eachother and been friends for years back ! on the boards ::). So I was on the boards talking steroids and discussing brands of human grade test at 12 then? lol.  ::)
 
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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #118 on: August 22, 2011, 08:58:46 AM »
The following are the exact dosages of an offseason blast of a current top pro. Hope this puts in perspective the BS pro cycles that get posted every now and then.

Weeks 1-12
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100mg injectable dbol ed (first 8 weeks)
100mg TNE ed
500mg test cyp eod
600mg equipoise eod
200mg test prop ed
200mg NPP ed
25iu humalog before meals and before training
20iu gh injected iv immediately post workout 3x per week, 10iu gh injected IM 2x per week (other 2 training days), 10iu split dose into 5am 5 mid day injected subq on off days

Weeks 13-24
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100mg TNE ed
750mg test cyp eod
600mg equipoise eod
300mg test prop ed
200mg tren ace ed
25iu humalog before meals, 35iu before training
30iu gh injected iv post workout on all training days, 15iu subq on off days split dose 5am/5 mid day/5 evening

Weeks 25-34
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200mg injectable anadrol ed
150mg TNE ed
1,000mg test cyp eod
600mg equipoise eod
400mg test prop ed
25iu humalog before meals, 40iu before training
35iu injected iv everyday in one shot




Injectable Anadrol . . . NEVER HEARD OF IT.

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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #119 on: August 22, 2011, 09:02:41 AM »
Injectable Anadrol . . . NEVER HEARD OF IT.

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Neither have I.

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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #120 on: August 22, 2011, 09:10:18 AM »
Some people just turn around one day and say to themselves "I want to be the best no matter what it takes". Arnold was one of them.

Until the 1990's Olympic athletes were required to be amateurs, which meant many would be living hand-to-mouth.  

Whereas today's bodybuilders are mostly living ATM

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« Reply #121 on: August 22, 2011, 09:17:27 AM »
Fuck. Thanks for posting this, man. I wanted to be a pro bodybuilder, but after reading this thread...

Fuck that, I'm outta here.

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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #122 on: August 22, 2011, 09:59:29 AM »
Great thread.  Bodybuilding=Sport of drugs... faster people realize that the better.

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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #123 on: August 22, 2011, 10:07:41 AM »
Ive actually read the cycle posted one more time and I have to say im really shocked..

not only by the DOSAGE but from the DURATION as well, from specific compounds.

I mean, 200mg tren ED for like 12 WEEKS??

Thats insane.


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Re: A REAL Top Pro's Bulking Cycle
« Reply #124 on: August 22, 2011, 10:14:18 AM »
I think that you actually need them to become pro
genetics - you need them to run this cycles and not drop dead...
talent - to get with the right people at the right time ( for best quality hormones)
hard work- pinning all this shit daily, hell this real fucking hard work

bodybuilding gets nasty daily, but i still like it  ;D



LOL !! Good point !


Honestly, I'm JUST starting out in the " steroid world ". If it weren't for my newbie muscles and current finances ( god, I HATE bills ), I'd do this cycle TODAY. Right now, in fact. I have NO qualms about injecting myself on a daily basis, multiple times a day. The sick thing is, I actually ENJOY pinning myself. At 2 times a week, currently, I wish I could do it more. Call me a weird, sick, pathetic bastard, but it is what it is. Some of us just know what we want in life and will stop at nothing to get it.

Finances ... and good reliable sources ... are the ONLY things that hold some of us ( definitely myself ) back ... it seems to me ( speaking from personal experience ) that it takes 100x more determination and drive to get the extra finances as well as sources than it does to actually train and eat. Matter of fact, I dare say that the training and eating is the easiest fucking thing about bb'ing. Again, at least in my experience.


Point blank, I LOVE threads like these. I learn a lot ... for better or for worse. :)