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WTF ''Bullying must become illegal. It is a hate crime''
« on: September 22, 2011, 03:49:22 PM »
And the Pussyfication of America continue  ::)

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/jamey-rodemeyer-suicide-ny-police-open-criminal-investigation/story?id=14580832

Police have opened a criminal investigation in the suicide death of Buffalo, N.Y., 14-year-old Jamey Rodemeyer, who was bullied online with gay slurs for more than a year.

The teen's parents, friends and even Lady Gaga, who was his idol, have expressed outrage about what they say was relentless torment on social networking websites.

The Amherst Police Department's Special Victims Unit has said it will determine whether to charge some students with harassment, cyber-harassment or hate crimes. Police said three students in particular might have been involved. Jamey was a student at Heim Middle School.....


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Re: WTF ''Bullying must become illegal. It is a hate crime''
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 03:57:16 PM »
sorry for the kid, but he was weak... wouldn't have lasted a day in sparta



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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 04:05:19 PM »
Bullying is human nature, we laugh at the weirdos, the ones who are different etc etc


You can't ban human nature even if we suck as a species.

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2011, 04:07:07 PM »
Bullying is human nature, we laugh at the weirdos, the ones who are different etc etc


You can't ban human nature even if we suck as a species.

x2. I think a lot of it stems from bad parenting in this generation; kids not being taught to stand up for themselves at a young age.

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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2011, 04:07:57 PM »
I wish lady gaga would shut the hell up.

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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2011, 04:12:34 PM »
Bullying is human nature, we laugh at the weirdos, the ones who are different etc etc


You can't ban human nature even if we suck as a species.
you need to think through the implications of an argument before using it. if we cant outlaw human nature then every behavior which could be called a normal human response would have to be legal. look in the thread about wifes/gfs cheating. how many guys said they would murder her. oh well, human nature. we want to killa bitch if she cheats. cant outlaw that.   ;D just our nature.


the reason it cant be outlawed is because it opens up a slippery slope to the outlawing of all behaviors which might have any negative affects on any person.  we must limit our laws to such actions which directly cause harm.



the problem isnt bullying, as stanolol said, its bad parenting. a child should be able to withstand any verbal insults, hatred, mockery thrown his way without it causing them any emotional trauma.

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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2011, 04:15:00 PM »
people, esp. teenagers are mean; no way around that.

 But bullies are dicks and their parents are dicks and their kids will grow up to be dicks. this is why we have prisons, welfare, and getbig.com

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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 04:16:45 PM »
Parents need to keep their kids off these networking sites. Bullying is part of society. I can see Europe being gay enought to try to outlaw it.

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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2011, 04:17:07 PM »
you need to think through the implications of an argument before using it. if we cant outlaw human nature then every behavior which could be called a normal human response would have to be legal. look in the thread about wifes/gfs cheating. how many guys said they would murder her. oh well, human nature. we want to killa bitch if she cheats. cant outlaw that.   ;D just our nature.

the reason it cant be outlawed is because it opens up a slippery slope to the outlawing of all behaviors which might have any negative affects on any person.  we must limit our laws to such actions which directly cause harm.

the problem isnt bullying, as stanolol said, its bad parenting. a child should be able to withstand any verbal insults, hatred, mockery thrown his way without it causing them any emotional trauma.

Obviously I was talking about bullying, and nothing else. Did I say we can't ban other things that are natural for us (cheating,killing blabla)? No, and why did I say what I said? Well you said it well yourself in the bolded part. Stop putting words in my mouth.

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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 04:18:08 PM »
Parents should buy this book  

''Dealing with Cyberbullying'' by Vince Goodrum .

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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2011, 04:20:26 PM »
LOL... Jails for kids under 13 cus they like to talk shit is lady gags perfect world

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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2011, 04:21:57 PM »
Parents should buy this book  

''Dealing with Cyberbullying'' by Vince Goodrum .

lol ;D
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2011, 04:22:12 PM »
Bullying is harrassment real fucking simple. If you don't wanna pussify your kids make them hold up to the same legal standards as adults, give them order and boundries, for christ sake sometimes the right wing bullshit is completely full of shit.

I cannot understand how you want your kids to live in some medieval times type of anarchy just because it's the way you supposedly live, despite the fact you never faced any true bullying, only minor minor teasing and ball busting.

Chicken hawks of the worst type, kids need rules and fucking discipline, bullying in the age of hard ass nuns, versus the age when kids can basically do whatever the fuck they want until there 18 are completely different stories.

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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2011, 04:23:29 PM »
Bullying is one of the things that I find uncomfortable and horrible to see.

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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2011, 04:27:08 PM »
Obviously I was talking about bullying, and nothing else. Did I say we can't ban other things that are natural for us (cheating,killing blabla)? No, and why did I say what I said? Well you said it well yourself in the bolded part. Stop putting words in my mouth.
o rly !? lol.. lets see


Bullying is human nature


You can't ban human nature

the argument here is that since bullying is human nature, and we cant ban human nature, that we cant ban bullying.

in order for that to be true we couldnt ban ANYTHING that is human nature.


basic logic.

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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2011, 04:31:16 PM »
o rly !? lol.. lets see


the argument here is that since bullying is human nature, and we cant ban human nature, that we cant ban bullying.

in order for that to be true we couldnt ban ANYTHING that is human nature.


basic logic.
Shh don't use reason with these people, for them to acknowledge that teens are just as or in most cases alot more evil than adults who rape, molest, etc, than they simplistic world would fall apart.

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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2011, 04:31:34 PM »
Bullying is one of the things that I find uncomfortable and horrible to see.
I bullied your mom last night.

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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2011, 04:34:02 PM »
o rly !? lol.. lets see
the argument here is that since bullying is human nature, and we cant ban human nature, that we cant ban bullying.
in order for that to be true we couldnt ban ANYTHING that is human nature.
basic logic.

I'm not going to argue semantics, if you REALLY thought I meant that we can't ban ANY human nature (which is what you said I did basically) then you are an idiot


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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2011, 04:34:49 PM »
Personally, I think that bullying is a lot worse because now you can be a complete pussy and bully someone anonymously behind a computer screen or phone without risking their asses being beat.  Most of these punks wouldn't even be bullies back in the day I grew up.  

I mean, remember that dude that jumped off the bridge because he was videotaped having sex.  I saw that kid and I would have horse-raped his ass (yes homo) if he ever even thought about trying that shit on me.


Most kids now are pussies anyway...play video games all day and jack off in the bathroom.  Hell I played my Atari a little bit but I spent most of my time lifting around the building hitting that bench press.      

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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2011, 04:37:41 PM »
I'm not going to argue semantics, if you REALLY thought I meant that we can't ban ANY human nature (which is what you said I did basically) then you are an idiot


Were talking about banning bullying in fucking schools, the one place were authority is generally absolute, the goal of being there for the most part is to act as law abiding citizens, and a place that is suppose to be teaching values for the work place(like civility). So yes I agree with your far out point, but children are not the people you want living in a lawlessness.

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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2011, 04:43:36 PM »
Were talking about banning bullying in fucking schools, the one place were authority is generally absolute, the goal of being there for the most part is to act as law abiding citizens, and a place that is suppose to be teaching values for the work place(like civility). So yes I agree with your far out point, but children are not the people you want living in a lawlessness.

Grown ups bully more than kids, just look at this board ffs. You can't ban something so elementary in social dynamics by law, it cannot be enforced. Only thing it would do is waste resources.

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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2011, 04:43:59 PM »
Not enough fathers and mothers whoopin their kids asses is the problem!! Yeah, let's take away Jr's X-Box......that will teach him!!!!!!! As he opens his laptop, gameboy, cell phone and whatever other doodad those little fuckers have nowadays. ::)



* In before some whiny bitch douchebag starts going off about "child abuse". ::) ::)
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2011, 04:45:28 PM »
Bullying is harrassment real fucking simple. If you don't wanna pussify your kids make them hold up to the same legal standards as adults, give them order and boundries, for christ sake sometimes the right wing bullshit is completely full of shit.

I cannot understand how you want your kids to live in some medieval times type of anarchy just because it's the way you supposedly live, despite the fact you never faced any true bullying, only minor minor teasing and ball busting.

Chicken hawks of the worst type, kids need rules and fucking discipline, bullying in the age of hard ass nuns, versus the age when kids can basically do whatever the fuck they want until there 18 are completely different stories.


kids do need rules and discipline but they also need freedom of expression. its the kids who commit suicide because of bullying that really needed better parenting. the kids doig the bullying ought to have been taught better as well, but i bet you they would commit suicide if the tables were turned. its a sign of extreme emotional weakness to let the words of others affect you so, and parents should be fostering strength and confidence from a very young age.  


I'm not going to argue semantics, if you REALLY thought I meant that we can't ban ANY human nature (which is what you said I did basically) then you are an idiot


semantics. lol. your the one who wrote it einstein. as i said, think about the implications of your arguments before using them.  if you understand that what i wrote is the real reason why bullying ought not be banned then you should have said so in the first place instead of making the remark about it being human nature

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« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2011, 04:49:07 PM »
Grown ups bully more than kids, just look at this board ffs. You can't ban something so elementary in social dynamics by law, it cannot be enforced. Only thing it would do is waste resources.
Your confusing Ball busting with harassment. No one on here has to come here which makes that theory nonsensical. Just the same at work, or in most places in life, school is one of the few places that you are forced by law to attend.

Seriously the only thing that as an adult that can compare to adolescent bullying(the extreme cases) is rape, and assault.

When was the last time you were raped or a victim of an unprovoked assualt in the  work place.  If you think there totally different you know jack shit about what it means to be a victim in the clinical sense, and are just making shit up to feel at ease with the world.



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« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2011, 04:50:05 PM »
semantics. lol. your the one who wrote it einstein. as i said, think about the implications of your arguments before using them.  if you understand that what i wrote is the real reason why bullying ought not be banned then you should have said so in the first place instead of making the remark about it being human nature

I had the same opinion or close to the same as you posted in the part i bolded. I didn't write it like that because sometimes you don't need to be exact in the way you formulate what you say for people to understand what you were thinking of.

Now tell me how God created himself when he didn't even exist in your theory of boredom and "non existence", mr Logic.  ::)