Author Topic: 2011 Sheru Classic - Phil Heath getting dwarfed by Kai Greene and Jay Cutler (Read 28409 times)

gh15 · « **Reply #75 on:** September 27, 2011, 11:47:36 AM »

Quote from: G_Thang on September 27, 2011, 11:39:42 AM

it was his O to win and he did. the problem is the crazy statements about him 24 hours after the O such as him structurally being better than flex, the best and most complete physique ever on the O stage, and he could take down a prime ronnie or yates. that's some insane shit or BS! one week later, you can see if kai is slightly on he can beat phil, and why he beat phil twice at the arnold? jay is still horrible, but is a mess monster compared to phil. phil is what dexter could be if he could fit an additional 15lbs on is frame. phil has the height to do it. that's about it. how long does he last? 4-5 yrs because alot of guys wont up their stuff and kai wont pull away from the table because he can afford to eat now.

yes,, eventhough dex much better,, but still the probelm is philsulina will have to be on the money with the drugs none stop and right doses to keep it ,, he is maxed maxed maxed and he just doesnt have the foundation to survive on for a while,, he need to always be on the money to win ,, its a problem

gh15 approved

RC Money · « **Reply #76 on:** September 27, 2011, 12:04:24 PM »

Phils waist look damn tight, and Jays rls looks much better than at the olympia.. maybe lighting and the way he hit the pose.

madg · « **Reply #77 on:** September 27, 2011, 12:05:58 PM »

damn in 1st pics looks at kai size he looks like he eat phil heaths

damn the legs...

LATS · « **Reply #78 on:** September 27, 2011, 12:09:17 PM »

i dont think phil's structure can handle much more size.. and yes, he does need more size.. i just dont know where it will go.. no room.. looking at the india show pics it appears that kai had it.. just too much size and structure for phil.. and yes, the sad thing is what will phil do this off season.. he appears to really shrink after his shows.. if you win the olympia fans expect to see mr olympia.. not just the contendor.. he did look very good at th o.. the added size did "make up" for the lack of width somewhat.. but i dont think he holds the title next year.. i just dont see much room for improvement..

French · « **Reply #79 on:** September 27, 2011, 12:19:45 PM »

Kai is just the best Bodybuilder on earth

claymore · « **Reply #80 on:** September 27, 2011, 12:38:25 PM »

Quote from: Boost on September 27, 2011, 03:34:26 AM

Kai's needs to get back with Oscar Arden and emulate his 09 Arnold and Aussie GP conditioning.

"Kai's needs to get back with Oscar Arden"....That's the worst thing he could ever do !!

Parker · « **Reply #81 on:** September 27, 2011, 12:50:41 PM »

Quote from: LATS on September 27, 2011, 12:09:17 PM

i dont think phil's structure can handle much more size.. and yes, he does need more size.. i just dont know where it will go.. no room.. looking at the india show pics it appears that kai had it.. just too much size and structure for phil.. and yes, the sad thing is what will phil do this off season.. he appears to really shrink after his shows.. if you win the olympia fans expect to see mr olympia.. not just the contendor.. he did look very good at th o.. the added size did "make up" for the lack of width somewhat.. but i dont think he holds the title next year.. i just dont see much room for improvement..

That was said back in 07-08, I remember 240 posting a pic showing his obliques...it didn't look good for The Gift, but he added more quality muscle and kept his waist tight. He'll add little by little, more chest, delts, back and legs...he'll grow a dense as fuck back, you can see the makings of a back worthy to follow Haney, Dorian, and Ronnie.

jude2 · « **Reply #82 on:** September 27, 2011, 04:25:45 PM »

Quote from: Meso_z on September 27, 2011, 10:38:40 AM

looks like a big-ass turd on top of his head.

Remember when guys were saying Kai had no triceps

SF1900 · « **Reply #83 on:** September 27, 2011, 05:03:36 PM »

dayum, kai destroying phil. phils rear lat spread looks so little compared to kais

RustyTrenbolona · « **Reply #84 on:** September 27, 2011, 05:22:02 PM »

They all look better than at the olympia. Indian airlines serves up syringes Bursting wuth almost human grade sauce followed by grade A diuretics in first class, as u board the plane.

the_swami · « **Reply #85 on:** September 27, 2011, 10:17:23 PM »

Phil looks very small and narrow in the BDB and RLS

Kai owning him badly there, so much more thickness and width

no one · « **Reply #86 on:** September 27, 2011, 10:23:57 PM »

Quote from: TRIX on September 27, 2011, 01:57:39 AM

i cant believe how thick cutlers torso and waist are- and thats dieted down and dry. imagine what it will look like when he quits bbing?

hes on the verge of having stage one palumboism setting in.

purenaturalstrength · « **Reply #87 on:** September 27, 2011, 10:33:27 PM »

how come kai's torso is so short? i thought short guys were supposed to have short legs, "long" torsos and tall guys long legs short torsos?

Parker · « **Reply #88 on:** September 27, 2011, 10:42:01 PM »

Quote from: TRIX on September 27, 2011, 01:57:39 AM

Phil is known for his arms, yet Kai's and Jay's are bigger...

purenaturalstrength · « **Reply #89 on:** September 27, 2011, 10:43:44 PM »

kai's back looks so weird in lat spread

no shape or definition $:-\$

Meso_z · « **Reply #90 on:** September 27, 2011, 10:46:45 PM »

Zoom in this pic..

Watch how fucking thick are Kais lats there and how they tie in and flare out.

insane.

purenaturalstrength · « **Reply #91 on:** September 27, 2011, 10:49:43 PM »

has cutlet retired yet?

he looks like shit, wrinkles all over his back, back losing width (look at back double bicep)

crazy synthol gone wrong on left bicep

right leg problem

jay cutlet please go

pellius · « **Reply #92 on:** September 27, 2011, 10:58:10 PM »

Quote from: che on September 27, 2011, 11:38:22 AM

Yeah ,he's getting dwarfed

Yes, the guy is just packed with a ton of hard, dense muscle. And I really don't think Kai's conditioning is so bad. Cross striations on the quads, the ass striations that everybody loves to see. And neither Jay nor Kai have huge guts. It's relatively flat for guys their size. The problem with Jay is he has a wide waist. Kai does not. Personally, I'm a Wolf fan but of those three I'd put Kai ahead of Jay and Phil.

avxo · « **Reply #93 on:** September 27, 2011, 11:04:01 PM »

Quote from: Boost on September 27, 2011, 03:34:26 AM

Kai's needs to get back with Oscar Arden and emulate his 09 Arnold and Aussie GP conditioning.

He's too busy worrying about his health to worry about his conditioning! Haven't you heard about the listeria breakout caused by cantaloupes?

Meso_z · « **Reply #94 on:** September 27, 2011, 11:05:37 PM »

Its great to finally see all the top 3 having some calves.

Papper · « **Reply #95 on:** September 27, 2011, 11:54:53 PM »

Quote from: GangstaLean on September 27, 2011, 10:42:01 PM

Phil is known for his arms, yet Kai's and Jay's are bigger...

Phils proportions has always been too much bicep and tricep and too little of everything else.

Look how small his delts look in the side chest. No balance.

20inch calves · « **Reply #96 on:** September 27, 2011, 11:55:53 PM »

IMO jay or kai could have beaten phil here. jay was ALOT better than at the O. phil does look small here

Papper · « **Reply #97 on:** September 28, 2011, 12:00:39 AM »

Quote from: 20inch calves on September 27, 2011, 11:55:53 PM

IMO jay or kai could have beaten phil here. jay was ALOT better than at the O. phil does look small here

Yes! Could make a case for Jay definately.

Parker · « **Reply #98 on:** September 28, 2011, 12:50:29 AM »

Quote from: papercut on September 27, 2011, 11:54:53 PM

Phils proportions has always been too much bicep and tricep and too little of everything else.

Look how small his delts look in the side chest. No balance.

I think you got that wrong...he is tricep heavy, which is why his arms look huge in the Kevin Levrone Signature MM...his lateral heads are huge...

Papper · « **Reply #99 on:** September 28, 2011, 02:24:46 AM »

Quote from: GangstaLean on September 28, 2011, 12:50:29 AM

I think you got that wrong...he is tricep heavy, which is why his arms look huge in the Kevin Levrone Signature MM...his lateral heads are huge...

Actually your statement dont really contradict my assessment.

Tricep heavy yes. They should be two thirds of arm, big bicep in pretty good relation to tris imo.

But small delts in relation. Appearant in many pics.

Author Topic: 2011 Sheru Classic - Phil Heath getting dwarfed by Kai Greene and Jay Cutler (Read 28409 times)

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