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Re: Ever had to pull the trigger and fire somebody? bb related
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2011, 10:56:07 PM »
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My wife and I started it when we were still living there so we set the foundation before we moved.


I'm sorry you got terminated, what happened?  

I was doing my phd in English, as for phd students in English major at the school I went to, everyone was required to pass an academic evaluation at the end of the first academic year, which was called Qualified Portfolio. It was basically a collection of a student's research papers, essays, and other writings. But the critical part of the portfolio was that every student was required to write an article which was supposed to submit to a professional journal for publication. Unfortunately, the committee did not think my paper had the value worth to be published after they reviewed my portfolio, so, they terminated my phd program.

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Re: Ever had to pull the trigger and fire somebody? bb related
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2011, 11:02:30 PM »
I was doing my phd in English, as for phd students in English major at the school I went to, everyone was required to pass an academic evaluation at the end of the first academic year, which was called Qualified Portfolio. It was basically a collection of a student's research papers, essays, and other writings. But the critical part of the portfolio was that every student was required to write an article which was supposed to submit to a professional journal for publication. Unfortunately, the committee did not think my paper had the value worth to be published after they reviewed my portfolio, so, they terminated my phd program.

 :'( :'(

That sucks.  but submitting a professional journal article after first year is fucking hardcore!   I mean, you're just getting into the swing of things there, surprised thats when they did it.

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Re: Ever had to pull the trigger and fire somebody? bb related
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2011, 11:07:02 PM »
That sucks.  but submitting a professional journal article after first year is fucking hardcore!   I mean, you're just getting into the swing of things there, surprised thats when they did it.

Tell me about it!!!!

but anyway, I am focusing more on life and my family, most important, men-in-thongs and getbig.

I'm sure I will give myself another shot for my phd sometime in the future. right now, getbig, baby, getbig!!!


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Re: Ever had to pull the trigger and fire somebody? bb related
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2011, 11:09:49 PM »
Tell me about it!!!!

but anyway, I am focusing more on life and my family, most important, men-in-thongs and getbig.

I'm sure I will give myself another shot for my phd sometime in the future. right now, getbig, baby, getbig!!!


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Good man!  Glad to hear things are working out.  The phd system is hard man, much harder than I expected, I greatly under estimated what it was gonna be like before I started, just trying to survive it now.

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Re: Ever had to pull the trigger and fire somebody? bb related
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2011, 12:26:35 AM »
I fired your mom.

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Re: Ever had to pull the trigger and fire somebody? bb related
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2011, 03:05:31 AM »
There's some pretty tough pro-employee labour laws where I am.

Still - I've had to fire 4 people in 13 years of being an employer here. I get them in the office and put 2 things in front of them. The first is a chasiers check and the second is a letter of resignation in their name.

I tell them that they are going to be fired but I would like to give them the opportunity to resign first, I also tell them they get the check if they resign but not if I fire them.

In all cases, they have just signed the letter straight away and walked away with the money.

It's not pleasant but generally speaking you only fire someone if they are shit anyway. So it's usually a relief to everyone of the other employees that remains anyway.

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Re: Ever had to pull the trigger and fire somebody? bb related
« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2011, 03:28:35 AM »
Except when you're on the receiving end of that speech and you know that you're being fed a line of bullshit.

Yeah, it's part bullshit but only the part where I didn't straight up say it's their fault for costing me more than they earn.  I'm not dealing with the brightest sparks, being in the building trades, so it would be cruel and pointless to tell someone off for being an idiot.  

Don't go thinking I'm running some massive company, YB.  A 6-7 year employee has stopped coming in by his choice so for the moment I work alone.  Probably going to keep it that way if I can handle the workload.  It's so much nicer than having to deal with other people's crap everyday.  

Best worker excuse I've ever heard on a Mon morning (not my worker, but too gold): "I noticed my pet snake escaped and I have to stay home until I find him."

Runner up: "I have a boil in my ass crack and I can't walk."

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Re: Ever had to pull the trigger and fire somebody? bb related
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2011, 09:00:04 AM »
Except when you're on the receiving end of that speech and you know that you're being fed a line of bullshit.

The only reason someone gives one of those speeches when they fire someone is because they are weak willed.

Fact is, you are firing someone. It's going to piss them off. Any bullshit speech you give them is only done with the intention of making yourself feel better, it sure as fuck wont make them feel better and it just makes you look a twat.

Sit them down, no small talk, no 'how is the family', no 'I hate to do this'. Sit them down, tell them straight away why they are in that room with you and what the deal is. For sure, THEY can ask for specifics but you should not beat around the bush.

There is no need to tell them anything other than that they are being dismissed and the terms of that dismissal. That's your lead into any discussion and any attempts to sugar coat it are misguided.

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Re: Ever had to pull the trigger and fire somebody? bb related
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2011, 09:22:54 AM »
There is no need to tell them anything other than that they are being dismissed and the terms of that dismissal. That's your lead into any discussion and any attempts to sugar coat it are misguided.

When I was let go, I had received a phone call about 10min prior from another employee that was out of the same depot I was. He said he'd been let go and if I could grab some papers for him he would appreciate it, adding that the boss was at the depot waiting for me. Then and there I knew I was going to be let go too, but why is a whole other story.

I showed up, saw the cars in the lot and again I knew. I walked in the office and saw a 2nd manager (knowing when 2 are present it's for legal reasons) it was confirmed. I went to the bathroom and as I came out my boss said "Have a seat." I told him 'Cut to the chase, I'm laid off aren't I?' and he continued and stressed for me to sit down again. As I sat down I told him 'I asked you once, don't sugarcoat anything or continue to piss me off me and betray me, I don't have a job as I walk out of this office, right?'

Not all employees take it that way though. Of the 4 of us laid off that day, one didn't know any better, I took it as I was given, another knew he was toast because I called him with a heads up and the other one (the worst employee of the lot, go figure) went ballistic.

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Re: Ever had to pull the trigger and fire somebody? bb related
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2011, 09:30:21 AM »
'You can either have the money and the hammer or you can walk out of here. You can't have both. What do you want?'   ;)


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Re: Ever had to pull the trigger and fire somebody? bb related
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2011, 10:21:15 AM »
The only reason someone gives one of those speeches when they fire someone is because they are weak willed.

I'll admit to that.  It sucks giving someone the axe, especially when they're not a rotten person, they're just natural born hopeless.