GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his 'advice'

[Howard]

Dude you are an idiot , he could be the richest guy in the world but if he got rich off twisting the truth and was deceitful he would be a lying cunt, he is so full of shit every time you flick a page in that grotty mag it smells like the khazi after an all night on the piss dump.

Look what is in those said pages to , ads for supplements all using guys and girls enhanced on drugs, this is why he lies to promote the snake oil shite, you dont look like those models without lots of drugs but you will never hear that bullshitting ferret admit to this.

So the gullible fork out funds for rubbish thinking it will help them look like what the ads show them.. its a fraud and herris is in a position to promote the truth , he choses to line he grimey mits instead and downplay how huge drugs are, without drugs there is NO BODYBUILDING - This is FACT!!

Yes and I could be some annonymous internet hero that claims to have monkeys flying out my ass each weekend.
If someone believes me it becomes an internet "fact" hahahaha.
Unless they have an actual indentity  you have no way to verify who or what they are, so they can pull any info out there ass. If some idiots want to belive Gh15 they take it on faith.
If you don't agree with Ron Harris at least you know who he is and can verify his facts. THat is my point.
Ron Harris =  real bodybuilding journalist who we know got 2nd at the recent Team U , fact.
GH15= unknown internet forum blogger with some interesting ideas. That's it.

[gh15]

Dude you are an idiot , he could be the richest guy in the world but if he got rich off twisting the truth and was deceitful he would be a lying cunt, he is so full of shit every time you flick a page in that grotty mag it smells like the khazi after an all night on the piss dump.

Look what is in those said pages to , ads for supplements all using guys and girls enhanced on drugs, this is why he lies to promote the snake oil shite, you dont look like those models without lots of drugs but you will never hear that bullshitting ferret admit to this.

So the gullible fork out funds for rubbish thinking it will help them look like what the ads show them.. its a fraud and herris is in a position to promote the truth , he choses to line he grimey mits instead and downplay how huge drugs are, without drugs there is NO BODYBUILDING - This is FACT!!

heirs rich? lol he barley closes the month ,, with out the muscular salary he = homeless

gh15 approved

[Howard]

when you go off from drugs you can not be on stage 200 anything in low singles anything anymore! you lose it and lose it fast,, you can be 170lb 6% ....175 lb 6% clean  and in his heigth dount it ,, he would be clean 168lb 6% on stage,,and look like mini me of his enhanced mini mi self

he is a liar,, he use everything ,, he use hgh ,, he use trenboloona,, he use testosterona,, he use equipona,, he use fat burners,, he use anti aromataze research prpducts,, he use everything and anything,, he is filt,,

gh15 approved

When I was in high school playing football in the 1970's I didn't lift wts. I was a really lean 175lbs at 5' 9" in the 10th grade.
I ddn't even lift wts or know what steroids were you idiot.
I know plenty of guys that are not even serious bodybuilders that exceed your silly natural ht/wt limits at lean % fat.

[Howard]

WE TELL THE TRUTH AND ARE HONEST , YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT MIND PEOPLE BEING LIED TO  

LOL Gh15 is so honest he won't even say who he is hahahaha. Yeah, real open and honest THAT guy hahaha.

[MAXX]

[WillGrant]

Yes and I could be some annonymous internet hero that claims to have monkeys flying out my ass each weekend.
If someone believes me it becomes an internet "fact" hahahaha.
Unless they have an actual indentity  you have no way to verify who or what they are, so they can pull any info out there ass. If some idiots want to belive Gh15 they take it on faith.
If you don't agree with Ron Harris at least you know who he is and can verify his facts. THat is my point.
Ron Harris =  real bodybuilding journalist who we know got 2nd at the recent Team U , fact.
GH15= unknown internet forum blogger with some interesting ideas. That's it.

Are you really this stupid or is it an act   It doesnt matter who is saying this about herris the truth is he is a dirty liar , it could be a bum out in the street saying it the facts are its truth.

So because he is a real bodybuilding journalist who we know got 2nd at the recent Team U it's ok to promote deceit and lies is it ? god you are a phoney  

[gh15]

When I was in high school playing football in the 1970's I didn't lift wts. I was a really lean 175lbs at 5' 9" in the 10th grade.
I ddn't even lift wts or know what steroids were you idiot.
I know plenty of guys that are not even serious bodybuilders that exceed your silly natural ht/wt limits at lean % fat.

i saw your physiqe forest ,, you were 175lb 12-15% like the average retard in frat house,,do you think its realy lean? you are goolible and a true idiot ,,sometime i think you pretend but no you are true idiot

gh15 approved

[WillGrant]

LOL Gh15 is so honest he won't even say who he is hahahaha. Yeah, real open and honest THAT guy hahaha.

Again are you an inbecile ? he talks truth , you dont need to know who he is to see it's true , its basic common sense that shows he is truthfull yet this seems lacking with you  

[gh15]

terry brodshaw the steelers player in the 70s lol he was on so much drugs and yet all the stupid americanos said he ws natural lol

forest you live a lie!,, but you atleast dont have someone who read you ,, i have more fellas who read me than anyone on internet history and on any magazine history ,, the blackman fella offered gh15 exclusive coloumn do you get this? faceless gh15....exclusive as long as i keep my mouth shut! and let the others in the mag do their thing,, WELL I DID NOT AGREE!,, i coulldnt giv ea flying rat ass about anything unless its the real truth about bodybulding,,

heris eventhough not gh15 celebrity status ...is a magazine writer and! he fail those bodybuild year after years for many years,, he should be outlawed ,, he should be isolated,, and he should be ashamed! ashemed to being one of the jew people ,, he is filt,, by the way only reason he is a writer in muscular devbelop is because! he is jew because of his jew mother...no other reason ,, trust me on that no other reason!

gh15 approved

[Howard]

i saw your physiqe forest ,, you were 175lb 12-15% like the average retard in frat house,,do you think its realy lean? you are goolible and a true idiot ,,sometime i think you pretend but no you are true idiot

gh15 approved

Not a bad zinger there GH15.  
Your drug posts and interesting and entertaining but your views on woman and natural bodybulding are pretty dumb, sorry.

[Howard]

Again are you an inbecile ? he talks truth , you dont need to know who he is to see it's true , its basic common sense that shows he is truthfull yet this seems lacking with you  

I never said his drug cycle info was wrong. I admit that isn't my area anyway.
I know for a fact his natural limit crap is silly and 100% wrong.
GH15 may know about BB drug stuff but he doesn't know shit about natural bodybuilding , sorry he doesn't.

[biff]

You guys are missing the point. The actual rules require you to be drug free for only 1 year. That's it.
The only qualification for the NPC team U is that you had to compete in any prior NPC contest. That's it.
Most of don't know the actual rules.

so perhaps this is how ron harris justifies his 'natural' claims. if such and such a contest says "you must be clean 12 months" he can claim natural, because he met their criteria - regardless if he was on the kitchen sink before hand.

the semantics game is something lot of liars and connivers use.

but howard is protecting his fragile psyche. he undoubtedly hero-worshiped bbers as a youth, and has been in denial since learning the real truth of how they look like they do, and what kind of people m,any of them are. he will say he knows about the drug side, but downplay it as much as possible, to maintain his delusions. in many ways like a pro-wrestling fan that cant get past the charcaters on the tv, while knowing and ignoring that its just a tv show.

[dyslexic]

Summary: Gh15 does NOT like Ron Harris.


I think it's fairly evident that he doesn't care much more for Howie.



Gh...


Do you like me? (j/k)



I'm a gimmick (just in case you didn't know) 

[Jack T. Cross]

I remember a Ron Harris article from a few years back, where he talks about using steroids.

[GetItOnNY]

I saw the pics of these years Team Universe, the competiors arent nearly as sharp as they used to be.In the years 1996-2003 Mr Harris wouldnt even break top 10.
He would have the floor mopped with him by Skip Lacour, James Bivens,Rodney Davis, Jeff Willet,Robert Washington,Johnny Stewart,and Tricky Jackson.
These guys had shape, looked good and actually were impressive.
To take 2nd in Team Universe, isnt bad for him, but to take 2nd in a natural show while on gear, is just bad.,
I know TU is supposed to be a natural show, so if your using gear, stay of of the fu@$# stage for heaven sake!!!Is it to much to aks, to not use gear and claim to be clean these days.?
I dont know how people who use gear and enter tested shows, even live with themselves.
They are liars and thieves.

[dyslexic]

I remember a Ron Harris article from a few years back, where he talks about using steroids.

So did that Hansen dude that now claims all natty. I think his name is John Hansen. He claimed that he always felt he had an "edge" on the other competitors b/c he believed that he had built and retained muscle that he would NOT have had if he had been a natty his whole life.

I still think that subject is highly controversial.


I really do think that if you have worked out naturally for many years and built good solid muscle fiber, and then you do a long subtle cycle and make substantial gains and taper down very slowly, keep your sex drive high (as if you were "on") ~ and keep lifting as if you were "on" ~ I am fairly certain that in the end you will be bigger than if you had remained natural.

I also believe that you will have worked out more intensely than if you were natural and possibly made some good solid, lasting gains, but as I said ~ it's a highly debated topic.


If I were an all natural competitor, I would not consider it an even playing field to compete against one who had been a steroid user...


but that's just meep meep.... your ass.

[gh15]

1. I never said don't listen to anything GH15 posts. In fact, I was pretty clear that you may consider his advice if you want to max out via the drugged route of bodybuilding.

2. Guys that want to go pro or get as massive by any means possible should listen to the advice of experienced drug gurus, no question .

3. My whole issue is  drugs are NOT a requirement to be a decent, regional bodybuilder.
For example I am a tad over 5'9" at 5' 9.5 inches tall and weighed a lean 175 lbs in 10th grade!
I was barely 16 and didn't lift wts or even know a thing about bodybuilding. I played football and ran track.
When I got to college I finally lifted . I trained for just over year and did my first show in 1978. I was  super lean around 182 lbs and barely knew what steroids even were. Today I couldn't be 170 lbs unless I cut off limbs or straved myself to death.
I have seem a number of NATURAL 5'5"- 5'7" middle wts look super ripped in the 170's lbs and 5'9" - 5'11" Lt hvys in the 190's ripped.

GH15 claims a lean 6% natty at 5'11" can't be over 170 lbs. That is absurd!
Think about all the football players and wrestlers that don't juice but could be around 6-7% and would weigh well over 170 lbs without any trouble. I'm just an avg bodybuilder and I exceeded his so called naurtal limits when I was a teenager and barely lifted.

5'10! make sure you read bible AGAIN,, 5'10 not 5'11 this is 7lb per inch forest!! this is big diff,,

5'10 170 6% is A VERY VERY VERY HIGHLY VERY VERY HIGHLY SUPERB GENETIC NATURAL ,, most hardly make it to 160lb

gh15 approved

[Jack T. Cross]

So did that Hansen dude that now claims all natty. I think his name is John Hansen. He claimed that he always felt he had an "edge" on the other competitors b/c he believed that he had built and retained muscle that he would NOT have had if he had been a natty his whole life.

I still think that subject is highly controversial.


I really do think that if you have worked out naturally for many years and built good solid muscle fiber, and then you do a long subtle cycle and make substantial gains and taper down very slowly, keep your sex drive high (as if you were "on") ~ and keep lifting as if you were "on" ~ I am fairly certain that in the end you will be bigger than if you had remained natural.

I also believe that you will have worked out more intensely than if you were natural and possibly made some good solid, lasting gains, but as I said ~ it's a highly debated topic.


If I were an all natural competitor, I would not consider it an even playing field to compete against one who had been a steroid user...


but that's just meep meep.... your ass.

So much of this comes down to "natural" versus "clean".  Maybe Harris is just claiming to be "clean", which of course should be met with a sharp grilling as to what he has used and when, at least if he is competing.

[wes]

I have to agree with GH-15 on this subject.I cannot stand when a guy on drugs enters a natural show.Its a bunch of bull shit.
I dont cant if you use gear, or dont use gear.But if you use gear, dont enter drug tested shows.Its a very unfair advantage.Only a coward would compete against natural guys, while using anabolics.Its like brining a gun to a knife fight.
Ron,is a decent writer, how ever, his physique is horrid, even on juice.
If I looked that bad on juice after 30 years of training I might take up another sport like cycling or running.Bodybuilding is not in his cards.
If you see him in person he looks about 170-175lbs tops.
If I didnt know him and saw him walking down the street I would think he might work out at his house 3-4 times a week.I call them back yard benchers ..I would never beleive he used gear.170lbs and 15 1/2" arms on gear ,its time to pull the gun out and shoot yourself, in the head.Make sure you dont miss, lol

The problem is quite simple.1) poor genetics 2) poor responder, plus he wore out his receptors by not coming off 3) He uses weight that is to heavy for him so he can impress people in his online videos.Its a fu#$# mess.
So you have a man with bad shape, with fried receptors, and poor form shaping his poor shaped body even worse then it already is.He uses terrible form.He uses strictly momentum to move the weight.
If you have poor genetics-poor shape, you need to pay attention to how you train.
How you train is how you look.All the drugs in the world will not fix, somebody is they arent using full range of montion and cheating to lift the weight.When I say cheating I mean only momentum, not the muscle to lift the weight
Am I right GH-15

GH-15,I think pro body builders  think 2 things about him 1) He is a joke, so they give him there left overs of what didnt work or they dont want.2) They dont respect him because they know he is using gear while doing natural shows.
I know my my share of pro bodybuilders, and they dont like people who lie, or head hunt.When I mean by head hunting go into tested shows dirty.
I bet the people who supply him give him the stuff they dont want, because if he cries, they can just blow the whistle on him.
I think if he was on decent gear he wouldnt look god, but not as bad as he does .Granted his receptors are shot, but dam.

GH-15, What is really sad, is Ron Haris, is probably going to create a thread over at the MD baord saying.Those guys over at getbig, actually think I use anabolics.Then he will follow up with, I must look pretty good for them to think my photo shopped pics look.At get big they are a bunch of haters,lol.I am natural, if you dont beleive me ask my wife.lol
The truth is he isnt natural now, and hasnt been in a lonmg long time.
He couldnt cut at open shows, so now he is head hunting, natural shows just to win a $5 trophy.
Its a sad case.I cannot stand guys who go into natural shows, and claim to be natural.If you use anabolics, stay the fu#$3 off of natural stages.
Its not like people cant tell,lol.Whats funny is the suppliers of the competiors, are laughing there way to the bank.
Imagine going through life like one of these top natural,s who we all know who I am talking about.They live in canstant fear of being exposed, by there supplier, or a friend of a supplier.How do they look themselves in the mirror, how do they sleep at night.Knowing there life is one big lie?

The Team Universe used to be they poly graph tested everybody, but they used and old polygraph machine.The type that had the old needle, lol.
Then the Winner gets urine tested.
Funny thing is nobody ever failed, that I know of.How does that happen?
Trust me the ABA, and PNBA uses a computer generated poygraph test given by a guy who does work for the government.He pops people all the time.
Atleast 1-3 guys who fail, and get really really pissed, lol.
If a polygraph test is real, and the guy who is doing the testing is good you wont beat it, trust me.
Team Universe is suppsed to be a natural show,unfornatley alot of people enter it, dirty.You can tell the real naturals from the guys who are on.
Its a world of diffrence

I dont have any personal issues with Ron, I just hate when people enter drug tested or natural shows when they are dirty.Its cheating, its the lowest form of cheating there is.Anybody who is on gear and beat a natural athlete, on any given day.Its a very unfair advantage.I dont know how these so called natural stars who do use gear, look themselves in the mirror everday.Its pathetic.
I dont care if you use gear or if your natural just be honest about it.Atleast the guys on gear are most of the time honest and say hey, I juice, so what.
True story, Delino Dixon who won the Muscle Mania World Championchips, in 1998, lost hs job at Ballys casino in Las Vegas, because he wanted to work at the Paris hotel as a 21 dealer.Same company but to transfer he had to pass a drug test.A wek after the Muscle Mania World he was terminated, for showing up positive.Yes, Ballys at the time tesed for steroids and recreationals drugs.They tested for everyting.I had a friend of mine who was a craps dealer at the time, not transer from Ballys to the Paris, because he was on a cycle at the time.Delino, used to compete at 198 lbs, then 2 years later, has 21" arms and competed at 230lbs.Telling everyone he was using alot of Andro stene,...Bullshit.I know the people who sold him test.
Imagine a guy 5'11" with small bones, weighing 230lbs on stage with 21" claming to be natural.
I seen Delin about 3 years ago, he is about 170lbs soaking wet now.Some natural athlete huh, lol.
By the way, Muscle Mania, does test there athletes, lol, randomly, lol.They only test 3 of the light weight novices, non of the open guys got tested.lol.Not Tito, Nt Jose, not any of the"Natural" stars

I saw the pics of these years Team Universe, the competiors arent nearly as sharp as they used to be.In the years 1996-2003 Mr Harris wouldnt even break top 10.
He would have the floor mopped with him by Skip Lacour, James Bivens,Rodney Davis, Jeff Willet,Robert Washington,Johnny Stewart,and Tricky Jackson.
These guys had shape, looked good and actually were impressive.
To take 2nd in Team Universe, isnt bad for him, but to take 2nd in a natural show while on gear, is just bad.,
I know TU is supposed to be a natural show, so if your using gear, stay of of the fu@$# stage for heaven sake!!!Is it to much to aks, to not use gear and claim to be clean these days.?
I dont know how people who use gear and enter tested shows, even live with themselves.
They are liars and thieves.

LOL 

[WillGrant]

I saw the pics of these years Team Universe, the competiors arent nearly as sharp as they used to be.In the years 1996-2003 Mr Harris wouldnt even break top 10.
He would have the floor mopped with him by Skip Lacour, James Bivens,Rodney Davis, Jeff Willet,Robert Washington,Johnny Stewart,and Tricky Jackson.
These guys had shape, looked good and actually were impressive.
To take 2nd in Team Universe, isnt bad for him, but to take 2nd in a natural show while on gear, is just bad.,
I know TU is supposed to be a natural show, so if your using gear, stay of of the fu@$# stage for heaven sake!!!Is it to much to aks, to not use gear and claim to be clean these days.?
I dont know how people who use gear and enter tested shows, even live with themselves.
They are liars and thieves.

All those cunts you mention are on a huge amount of drugs yet this is a natty show ? 

[wes]

All those cunts you mention are on a huge amount of drugs yet this is a natty show ? 

Exactly........not tested IMO.

[dyslexic]

This guy always claims *natural* ~

It may be P.S'd, but I didn't touch it.




This does NOT look like a natty physique to me. Doesn't he compete in polygraph tested events also? (Chris Faildo)

[Howard]

so perhaps this is how ron harris justifies his 'natural' claims. if such and such a contest says "you must be clean 12 months" he can claim natural, because he met their criteria - regardless if he was on the kitchen sink before hand.

the semantics game is something lot of liars and connivers use.

but howard is protecting his fragile psyche. he undoubtedly hero-worshiped bbers as a youth, and has been in denial since learning the real truth of how they look like they do, and what kind of people m,any of them are. he will say he knows about the drug side, but downplay it as much as possible, to maintain his delusions. in many ways like a pro-wrestling fan that cant get past the charcaters on the tv, while knowing and ignoring that its just a tv show.

Ron , me and some others simply state what the rules are for any particular drug tested contest or organization.
If we meet the criteria to compete then you obey their rules. Pretty simple concept.

FYI, I barely knew what a bodybuilder was when I was kid. I didn't start lifting wts until I was 18 in college.

[Howard]

I saw the pics of these years Team Universe, the competiors arent nearly as sharp as they used to be.In the years 1996-2003 Mr Harris wouldnt even break top 10.
He would have the floor mopped with him by Skip Lacour, James Bivens,Rodney Davis, Jeff Willet,Robert Washington,Johnny Stewart,and Tricky Jackson.
These guys had shape, looked good and actually were impressive.
To take 2nd in Team Universe, isnt bad for him, but to take 2nd in a natural show while on gear, is just bad.,
I know TU is supposed to be a natural show, so if your using gear, stay of of the fu@$# stage for heaven sake!!!Is it to much to aks, to not use gear and claim to be clean these days.?
I dont know how people who use gear and enter tested shows, even live with themselves.
They are liars and thieves.

For the 1099th time, the NPC team Universe is NOT lifestime drug free or 100% natural contest.
The rules simply state you must be off steroids and GH for 1 yr prior to the show. Ron admits he took steroids  at various times over the years.
He went off any banned Team U drugs for at least 1 yr and competed in the Team U.Where exactly is the lie in that?

[Stavios]

For the 1099th time, the NPC team Universe is NOT lifestime drug free or 100% natural contest.
The rules simply state you must be off steroids and GH for 1 yr prior to the show. Ron admits he took steroids  at various times over the years.
He went off any banned Team U drugs for at least 1 yr and competed in the Team U.Where exactly is the lie in that?

Ron says he is natural (he is not)
he said he truly believed Jose Raymond was natural (he is not)

he said another bullshit not long ago but I don't remember what it was