GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his 'advice'

[Leatherneck]

Ron Harris contributes alot of good things with his interviews and articles but how could anyone believe that after using hormones for 5-7 years he could come off and end up weighing more and looking better than ever before. Not only that, but who after 40 puts on new natural size? His faithful supporters will probably mention that he started DC training for a while after he "came off" but who are we kidding.

[dyslexic]

natty? this is a fella on hgh consistant in blood all year long take out few weeks prior to competition ,, this is hgh addict ,, its all in trenbolona and hgh i keep telling you this fellas

gh15 approved

I know you do, I just have to keep posting the most popular winner. Hell, he's my age by now. He aint no spring chicken. Many kids believe that is a naturally attainable look.

He disappears with his clothes on, but a lot of folks really wish they could do that naturally. I do. Sucks. I don't have extra stashes of growth cash.


Unless someone wants to do a trial experiment of before and afters with me just to prove a point and sell their shiz.


I'm at 11% bodyfat now, so it would be the perfect time... along with Trennybalonie.

[GettingBig]

It's really very sad seeing and hearing people lies.

More sad when someone believes that taking whey and creatine, eating 6 meals a day will make you as big as Ronnie or jay!! It may make you fit and healthy and that's it.

It could take you years to finally believe it's all a big lie, chasing a false statement why ? Because someone decided to say he is natural without even asking him and market himself as one ! And makes you pay for it with all the whey,Pre, Post and now during workout supplements and more...when he just go inside his bathroom and inject his PED's.

I can understand someone keeping it personal and avoid talking about it, I do respect his privacy.

but when someone write and market him self as natural, laying to everyone and to me without any reason just because he feels good and makes money out of his lies and makes me believe something he is not..that's what I can't take.

I do read MD to be honest and others too it's because I do love bodybuilding and I do enjoy holding a magazine reading researches and enjoy looking at the pictures maybe I got used to paper magazines since for me it's more enjoyable to hold a mag than reading from my iPad.

So I have no issues with any magazines out there.

And I'm really not an expert when it comes to PED's but from reading and seeing people around I can tell and I'm not sugar coating gh15 or complementing him, I have no such agenda but since he is offering his knowledge and his own opinion i do tend to trust his words lately.

After all you decide what is good for you work around yourself and build the knowledge been offered to you, trial and error no one will ever tell you exactly what you need because you know your body more than anyone !

[MAXX]

LIARS.

That's bodybuilding for you.

Liars... All smoke and mirrors.

[MrBigandCut]

Howard I would rather Gh-15 tells people including youngsters how a proper bodybuilder is built and gets to look like they do!  I would rather do that then try and trick people into buying a false dream of supplement balloie!!!

I'm sorry but a true natural on stage looks like half starved victim of refuge camp not a bodybuilder!! If your goin to be competitve bodybuilder and proper bodybuilder in 2011 and look impressive you have to 5' 8' 230 minimum! taller guys 240 250 260 upwards!!

Gh-15 advise is for real bodybuilder!! dedicated to getting to these levels! What you are talking about is non-competitve recreational lifters! The advise is clearly not for them or you !!!

[apply85]

5'10! make sure you read bible AGAIN,, 5'10 not 5'11 this is 7lb per inch forest!! this is big diff,,

5'10 170 6% is A VERY VERY VERY HIGHLY VERY VERY HIGHLY SUPERB GENETIC NATURAL ,, most hardly make it to 160lb

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have you ever actually seen 170 5'10 6% natural? I mean complete natural, no prohormones ever, no diet pills nothing, because I haven't

[Steve Namat]

Hmmm, well Gh15, bodybuilding is just one part of my life , it doesn't consume my life.
I will never stand on the Olympia or pro stage but have enjoyed bodybuilding on my terms.

Once again, unless you want to go pro, you don't have to use big drug cycles to look like a bodybuilder.

Good point!

AND

Even if you wanna be (or you are) a pro, it's not always necessary, unless u have average or below average genetics...

[MrBigandCut]

Most people who have half descent bodies in the first couple of years of training would have average or above average genetics but its the compounds on a huge scale that that person takes which gets him to pro level!  If you thing it comes any lighter than this you are either lieing to cover up the truth or sadly dillusioned about the modern day bodybuilder!!

[MrBigandCut]

by Pro Level I mean someone who steps on the Olympia stage in the open class not 202 but open! this is true Pro!!! 

[DK II]

by Pro Level I mean someone who steps on the Olympia stage in the open class not 202 but open! this is true Pro!!! 

Ouch, poor Steve. 

[gh15]

Most people who have half descent bodies in the first couple of years of training would have average or above average genetics but its the compounds on a huge scale that that person takes which gets him to pro level!  If you thing it comes any lighter than this you are either lieing to cover up the truth or sadly dillusioned about the modern day bodybuilder!!

and you ae right ,, it is all in the hormones,, ALL in the hormones ,,, doses ,, quality ,, and timing

gh15 approved

[el numero uno]

by Pro Level I mean someone who steps on the Olympia stage in the open class not 202 but open! this is true Pro!!! 

Bullshit, the only difference is the height, if Namat or any other competitor from the 202 class were 5'9-5'11 they would be >240 lbs. C'mon, don't you think it's kinda hard to be 5'4 and 200 lbs at 4% bf?

[WillGrant]

Herris has started to take the piss an mimic gh15 now 

[booty]

Herris has started to take the piss an mimic gh15 now  

Yes I saw this.  


Copy and paste.

this is lye perpechuated by lieing magazeens and supp companeez. How do yu get 270 at 5%? Testosterona, trenbolona, slin, and loads of HGH. Yes, HGH can turnn enyone into Mr. Olyeempia. gennetix menes noething.

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[io856]

Yes I saw this.  


Copy and paste.

this is lye perpechuated by lieing magazeens and supp companeez. How do yu get 270 at 5%? Testosterona, trenbolona, slin, and loads of HGH. Yes, HGH can turnn enyone into Mr. Olyeempia. gennetix menes noething.

RH15 Approved

lol I can imagine all the emotion as he is mashing the keyboard posting that balonie

[gh15]

Yes I saw this.  


Copy and paste.

this is lye perpechuated by lieing magazeens and supp companeez. How do yu get 270 at 5%? Testosterona, trenbolona, slin, and loads of HGH. Yes, HGH can turnn enyone into Mr. Olyeempia. gennetix menes noething.

RH15 Approved

270 huh? first he need to get to 205 lb  shredded which is he cant and he is on all those and then some,, that filt is going to pay eventhough a jew from jew mother he is going to pay ,, comiting crimes againt your own people is bad enoughfor him to pay,, he will pay

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[notsureifsrs]

Good point!

AND

Even if you wanna be (or you are) a pro, it's not always necessary, unless u have average or below average genetics...

Explain genetics...

[DK II]

Explain genetics...

genetics = how good do you react to gear as in great results, no side effects.

[notsureifsrs]

genetics = how good do you react to gear as in great results, no side effects.

And scientifically?

[Howard]

genetics = how good do you react to gear as in great results, no side effects.

Yeah, your muscle shape , insertion locations, frame,  along with how you respond to lifting and diet has NOTHING to with muscle growth, right?
You guys are like a cult.
Saying drugs are the main reason for BB success is as big a lie as saying the IFBB pros are natural.

If you lack as a bodybuilder, you accept it or need an excuse.
I admit, I lacked the basic raw talent and drive to be a top bodybuilder.
I never used some lame excuse , like drugs, to make me feel better.

You folks need to "man up" and just admit the top pros are simply more gifted and/or work harder then a lot of you clowns.

[Howard]

by Pro Level I mean someone who steps on the Olympia stage in the open class not 202 but open! this is true Pro!!! 

By this fine logic, the only pro football teams are the ones that play in the Superbowl.

[Wiggs]

Why are you guys arguing with an NPC Judge?  You know their decsion making processes are scewed.  Only thing worse would be to argue with an IFBB Judge.

[makaveli25]

If It's not all about drugs why don't we see any life time natural pros onstage. You don't! You have to have decent genetics I think good muscle insertions all of that. Drugs equals more thank half the equation though. no drugs no high level physiques!

[booty]

If It's not all about drugs why don't we see any life time natural pros onstage. You don't! You have to have decent genetics I think good muscle insertions all of that. Drugs equals more thank half the equation though. no drugs no high level physiques!

It's not that it's all about drugs, it's that they play a big part in attaining a very high level physique.  Everybody knows, that you will never see a real natural on the Mr Olympia stage. 

[Howard]

5'10! make sure you read bible AGAIN,, 5'10 not 5'11 this is 7lb per inch forest!! this is big diff,,

5'10 170 6% is A VERY VERY VERY HIGHLY VERY VERY HIGHLY SUPERB GENETIC NATURAL ,, most hardly make it to 160lb

gh15 approved

After reading the Oct post about your secret GOV job with aliens and "luna level" security clearence, I now understand you better.  
May the forece be with you GH15 , live long an prosper my friend.