Should the military press be restored to olympic lifting?

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

lol none squat 400kg

Yes there are people, and yes raw.

[MB]

Why don't gyms have platforms and weights to perform olympic lifts?  It doesn't seem like that much investment and it's a great way to train for athletics.  Maybe finding a coach to teach the lifts is beyond the capacity of a personal trainer? 

[BB]

@  StanZoLOL-

Mid 70's, I'd figure.


This was how much back bend was happening sometimes-

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[BB]

Why don't gyms have platforms and weights to perform olympic lifts?  It doesn't seem like that much investment and it's a great way to train for athletics.  Maybe finding a coach to teach the lifts is beyond the capacity of a personal trainer? 

Most good Colleges have them.

You won't see them in commercial gyms sometimes because-

1) Wear and tear and noise. A lost lift is noisy and scary to most common folks. Also if a lifter bends a bar it's close to $500+ to replace.

2) Lack of Coaching and Liability. It hard to find coaches for this hobby, or at least good ones. Also from a liability stand point, if some guy gets hurt or loses a bar and hurts someone else, the lawyers will break you.

3) Actual use. In the space that you could put a platform, you could have 2-3 bikes, treadmills, a leg press, etc.... that way more people will use.

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[Papper]

Im a expert in jerk and clean.

[MB]

3) Actual use. In the space that you could put a platform, you could have 2-3 bikes, treadmills, a leg press, etc.... that way more people will use.

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Yeah, I guess a few more bikes are necessary because 63 pieces of cardio equipment aren't enough.  It's sad what gyms have become.   

[Dr Dutch]

They should include the seated calf raise...

[StanZoLOL]

@  StanZoLOL-

Mid 70's, I'd figure.


This was how much back bend was happening sometimes-

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Pretty crazy. I noticed in some of the later press videos there was a very slight "push" from the legs, too, which given the strength of some of those guys could effect it a lot.

[Ursus]

People turned the 'press' into an incline bench thats why it was dropped.

[berblexer]

So did anyone ever break his back? looks quite dangerous

[_bruce_]

Most good Colleges have them.

You won't see them in commercial gyms sometimes because-

1) Wear and tear and noise. A lost lift is noisy and scary to most common folks. Also if a lifter bends a bar it's close to $500+ to replace.

2) Lack of Coaching and Liability. It hard to find coaches for this hobby, or at least good ones. Also from a liability stand point, if some guy gets hurt or loses a bar and hurts someone else, the lawyers will break you.

3) Actual use. In the space that you could put a platform, you could have 2-3 bikes, treadmills, a leg press, etc.... that way more people will use.

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Yep - good equipment is pricey! An Eleiko bar + 40kg in weights costs around 800 €.
I have to agree with the gyms' policies - just wasted money in relation to what folks would be using it for.... imagine a dreaded up right rower using Eleiko to pump his bulging side delts.

[StanZoLOL]

Eleiko upright rows.

[Steve Pulcinella]

As a guy who attends olympic lifting meets regularly they are so freaking slow, long and boring as it is with TWO lifts I couldn't imagine how long they would take with three.

[purenaturalstrength]

Yes there are people, and yes raw.

i meant no olympic lifter does it and no one does it high bar full depth

not in any recordings around the world has it happened only in questionable fables and tales of strength

[StanZoLOL]

As a guy who attends olympic lifting meets regularly they are so freaking slow, long and boring as it is with TWO lifts I couldn't imagine how long they would take with three.

About the same length as a 3 lift PL meet? LOL Your gym is very cool, btw.

[#1 Klaus fan]

i meant no olympic lifter does it and no one does it high bar full depth

Now you are just moving the goal posts.

Mark Henry, a weightlifter, squatted 430 kg. Period. So there must be many others too.

And a parallel squat might be a full squat for some lifters.

[purenaturalstrength]

Now you are just moving the goal posts.

Mark Henry, a weightlifter, squatted 430 kg. Period. So there must be many others too.

MARK HENRY DID NOT HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT 430 KG

MARK HENRY WAS FAR FAR FROM ELITE WEIGHTLIFTER


just putting that out there


but he did actually do that and he was a huge strong motherfukcer no doubt

just find your statements misleading

also there are not many who did the same not by a long shot

[BB]

One of the best articles I've read on the press- http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/JSH/JSH2001/JSH2803/JSH2803d.pdf .

It's long, but good and the pictures are great.

[chaos]

I dropped a 245# clean from shoulder height last week, no platform, steel plates......massive boom!

Tomorrow is cleans again.......wonder how I'll do?

[flinstones1]

olympic lifters are the best athletes in the world, imo. The amount of power, precision, concentration, that it takes for something so precise (throwing 400 pounds over your head) is mind boggling. I did a competition when I was 16, snatch was 225 clean and jerk was around 250. I could probably clean and jerk 400 pounds by now if I was taking the amount of drugs I'm on and trained for it.

[purenaturalstrength]

olympic lifters are the best athletes in the world, imo. The amount of power, precision, concentration, that it takes for something so precise (throwing 400 pounds over your head) is mind boggling. I did a competition when I was 16, snatch was 225 clean and jerk was around 250. I could probably clean and jerk 400 pounds by now if I was taking the amount of drugs I'm on and trained for it.

my best snatch was 110kg and clean and jerk was 135kg at 82kg bw 182cm height maybe a year or two ago

i quit and lost interest

only strength train now


sometimes i want to try it again but the competitive aspect of it was a pain in the ass with the fukcing annoying team mates and the competitions that eat up an entire saturday

[flinstones1]

my best snatch was 110kg and clean and jerk was 135kg at 82kg bw 182cm height maybe a year or two ago

i quit and lost interest

only strength train now


sometimes i want to try it again but the competitive aspect of it was a pain in the ass with the fukcing annoying team mates and the competitions that eat up an entire saturday

yeah fuck that shit WAYYY too much work.

[Hulkotron]

Clean and press seems like a stupid olympic lift as the weight you can clean is so vastly heavier than the weight you can press without cheating.  Not sure what they were expecting.

[purenaturalstrength]

yeah fuck that shit WAYYY too much work.

yep and sometimes i wonder "and for what" i mean it's cool but is it really so much cooler as a big bench or big squat


i donno...


the way of training is also pretty unproductive for naturals because of the massive amount of work your legs do on the snatch and the clean and then you're supposed to do a squats workout

i mean really

no wonder i plateaud so fucking hard it's over training to the max

still cool sport but not worth it if you're not on roids imho

you end up with huge quads and a preteens boy body all over

this is the case for 95% of amateurs in that sport

[_bruce_]

One of the best articles I've read on the press- http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/JSH/JSH2001/JSH2803/JSH2803d.pdf .

It's long, but good and the pictures are great.

Interesting