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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #225 on: March 03, 2016, 07:03:17 PM »
Ask you self these questions, research them, you might even find the answers in your video bible called youtube:

Does steel conduct heat?

At what point does steel lose it strength when heated?

How much pressure is on the lower steel beams with 100 stories weighing down on them?

Engineers don't design structures that size to be 'just strong enough'. That's ridiculous. And it's not the steel that protects the building from gravity, it's the concrete columns which have tremendous compressive strength. Steel is merely meant to keep the concrete from twisting apart and to protect its integrity from vector type forces. Any engineer will tell you that.

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #226 on: March 03, 2016, 07:28:55 PM »
Engineers don't design structures that size to be 'just strong enough'. That's ridiculous. And it's not the steel that protects the building from gravity, it's the concrete columns which have tremendous compressive strength. Steel is merely meant to keep the concrete from twisting apart and to protect its integrity from vector type forces. Any engineer will tell you that.

Physics!!!!!   ;)

Again you are wrong.  You are drawing conclusions from incorrect assumptions and inaccurate information.  If you don't like the wiki proof there is more i can post from actual engineers to show how wrong you are.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Construction_of_the_World_Trade_Center



The World Trade Center towers included many structural engineering innovations in skyscraper design and construction, which allowed the buildings to reach new heights and become the tallest in the world. Traditionally, skyscrapers used a skeleton of columns distributed throughout the interior to support building loads, with interior columns disrupting the floor space. The tube-frame concept, earlier introduced by Fazlur Khan, was a major innovation, allowing open floor plans and more space to rent. The buildings used high-strength, load-bearing perimeter steel columns called Vierendeel trusses that were spaced closely together to form a strong, rigid wall structure. There were 60 perimeter columns, narrowly spaced, on each side of the buildings. In all, the perimeter walls of the towers were 210 feet (64 m) on each side, and the corners were beveled. The perimeter columns were designed to provide support for virtually all lateral loads (such as wind loads) and to share the gravity loads with the core columns.[48] Structural analysis of major portions of the World Trade Center were computed on an IBM 1620.[49]

The perimeter structure was constructed with extensive use of prefabricated modular pieces, which consisted of three columns, three stories tall, connected by spandrel plates. The perimeter columns had a square cross section, 14 inches (36 cm) on a side, and were constructed of welded steel plate.[50] The thickness of the plates and grade of structural steel varied over the height of the tower, ranging from 36,000 to 100,000 pounds per square inch[51] (260 to 670 MPa). The strength of the steel and thickness of the steel plates decreased with height because they were required to support lesser amounts of building mass on higher floors.[50] The tube-frame design required 40 percent less structural steel than conventional building designs.[52] From the 7th floor to the ground level, and down to the foundation, the columns were spaced 10 feet (3 m) apart.[53] All columns were placed on bedrock, which, unlike that in Midtown Manhattan, where the bedrock is shallow, is at 65–85 feet (20–26 m) below the surface.[54]

The spandrel plates were welded to the columns to create the modular pieces off-site at the fabrication shop.[55] The modular pieces were typically 52 inches (1.3 m) deep, and extended for two full floors and half of two more floors.[50] Adjacent modules were bolted together, with the splices occurring at mid-span of the columns and spandrels. The spandrel plates were located at each floor, transmitting shear stress between columns, allowing them to work together in resisting lateral loads. The joints between modules were staggered vertically, so the column splices between adjacent modules were not at the same floor.[50]

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The tube frame design using steel core and perimeter columns protected with sprayed-on fire resistant material created a relatively lightweight structure that would sway more in response to the wind, compared to traditional structures such as the Empire State Building that have thick, heavy masonry for fireproofing of steel structural elements



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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #227 on: March 03, 2016, 11:29:54 PM »
Where to  begin? So 8 hours of office fires has enough strength to debilitate a skyscraper which made the 90 floors under the 15 floors come down to it's base? are you two inherently that stoooooopid that do not understand the strength of concrete and steel? There are videos all over youtube of skyscrapers on fire for days, and the structure  stood.

In that picture you posted you dupe, you are saying that the buildings did not came down to it's own footprint? There is nothing standing, everything was obliteration, but  even better, we can see  the small buildings, wtc 5 and 6, between the twin towers and wtc 7 missing big chunks of it's infrastructure and they stood still until they demolished them.

https://www.google.com/search?q=building+7+aerial+photos&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=993&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiKvZrOrKXLAhUK2B4KHcLLCloQ_AUIBygC&dpr=1

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Ok. Link here some video where we can see the skyscraper which is on fire because Boeing 767 has crash in it, and which doesn't collapse? Or video about the building like WTC 7, which has been hit by another collapsing building which was 400 meters high. What you drooling morons are doing is that you take examples from the complete different situations and circumstances, and try to ignore all the fucking facts of the matter.

Both WTC towers has the footprint of 60 x 60 meters. The area what you see in the pictures, is ~700 x 600 meters. That is quite large to be a footprint, while both towers could lie on that area on their side, and there would be plenty of room around them..

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #228 on: March 04, 2016, 12:23:43 AM »
" Does steel conduct heat?

At what point does steel lose it strength when heated?

How much pressure is on the lower steel beams with 100 stories weighing down on them?"

Please the both of you STOP!!! The more you keep posting. the more moronic you guys are seem by the rest of getbig. So heat propagated down on to the buidings? So steel lost all it's strenght? What about concrete? Does concrete looses all it's strength due to fire? there weren't 100 stories pushing down on 10. It was 15 pushing down on 95, read the report.


So you are saying that steel doesn't conduct heat? In fact, it does it quite well, even so well that humans has been able to use iron and steel from the iron-age, and manufacturing all kind of tools and products from it. Leave from your trailer park, dear child, and look around. There is steel and iron everywhere just because it is easy to work with because it would be soft as butter when it is heated. For example, the blacksmith and the horse shoe. The Blacksmith heat the steel to 8-900°C and forge it to be a shoe for the horse. What is 8-900°C in the fire which has temperature of 1400-1500°C? Steel start to loose it's strength when it is heated to the temperature of 400°C, and when temperature goes up, the strength goes down 35-40% per 100°C down to zero at the temperature of 1200°C. This is so called "common knowledge", and you can check it out from any metallurgical handbook you choose.

And the next thing you try is try to deny that fire has such heat in it. That the kerosene doesn't be able to create such heat. Heat comes from the energy in the fuel, and if the fuel hasn't that kind of energy, planes simply doesn't fly. So to make the jet engine work, they need the potent fuel. Fuel which has enough energy to keep aero planes flying. That is main reason why there is different kind of fuels for the different kind of engines.

And dear child, there was lot of everything to burn in that building, so the kerosene was only lighter for the fire. Have you ever hear a words "fire load"? From Wikipedia: "The fire loading of a building or compartment is a way of establishing the potential severity of a hypothetical future fire. It is the heat output per unit floor area, often in kJ/m2, calculated from the calorific value of the materials present". It means that any given building has it's fire load which comes from furniture etc. what is in the building. There is quite good charts about this, and if you take any of these charts and look up the fire load of the office building, you see that it has quite large fire load even without the kerosene. That is all simple mathematics, so it has been calculated that the fire of the WTC towers has plenty of energy = simply enough heat to make construction steel soft as noodles.

These are all facts, based on laws of physics, and the reason why you don't understand it, is your stupidity. Stupidity which cannot exist without serious mental handicap, meaning that you are an idiot. And that, dear child, is another proven fact. After all, it is you who are still believing to these foil hat fairy tales  ;D

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #229 on: March 04, 2016, 12:49:50 AM »
" This is proven fact. OFFICE FIRES MY ASS, IT WAS ON FIRE TO THE BOTTOM TO THE TOP, AND THROUGH THE BUILDING. This is also proven fact. IN FACT, IT WAS BURNING 8 HOURS BEFORE IT COLLAPSED"

What? From the bottom the top? Where do you get this? So you are telling us that the fire propagated from the 90th floor to the bottom of the buildings? Lol, you are some kind of stupid.

Well, there is plenty of photos which show, that there were fires through the building. Also there is lot of pictures, where whole front side of the building is covered by smoke. Then there is these competing claims:

Foil hats: There was only tiny little fire, hardly anything at all
Reality: There were severe fire in the most parts of the building

So who is right?

Reason, and only reason why there isn't loads of photos about the fire is simple: There wasn't anyone standing on the rubbles of the collapsed towers and taking pictures, in the middle of the largest man made dust cloud ever seen. All air traffic was stopped, so how there could be pictures about it? No photographers, no helicopters, everybody is running away from the dust. Question: How the foil hats could know that there was only tiny little fire, when they has to make their conclusion from the same facts what all of us have seen? Answer: they are idiots, who just imagine what happen, they just use their imagination.. Can you make up the facts just by imagination?  No, you need some kind of evidence, and that they doesn't have. Quite simple, really. If you deny all the facts, anything could happen, but is it real? No, it is just imagination. Reality is all about the facts..´




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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #230 on: March 04, 2016, 06:15:48 AM »
Facts, facts, facts.....


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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #231 on: March 04, 2016, 10:35:43 AM »
This two are so mentally handicapped that I'm starting to really feel sorry for their family.

Again the main point that the official story is bullshit is because is inherently impossible for 15 floors to bring down 90 floors to it's base as seen perfectly by the pictures that ropo the retard posted. On the link I posted on aerial pictures of WC7, you could see perfectly WTC5 and WTC6 half way destroy and burn and those stood, how?

https://thingseverybodyshouldknow.wordpress.com/tag/collapse/

WTC7 was between two tall building but somehow by miracle of who knows what, nothing happen to those buildings,  they got hit massively by the twin towers debris as well.  In the last video ropo the retard posted  they are showing us proof of the devastation they caused, your own video ropo the retard is showing proof how devastating the debris of the twin tower affected adjacent buildings, but some how only WC7 which was across the street CAME DOWN ON IT'S OWN FOOT PRINT,  only WC7, not the building to it's left nor the one on the right, just WC7 which was sitting in the middle,which makes it more incredible while WT5 and WT6 were in between and stood still while missing huge chunks of it's infrastructure and showing clear signs of been burn down as well.

Never again an event like this would happen guarantee, where fire would bring down buildings, yes the twin towers got hit by two planes, but they were specifically engineer to take such hit's, if anything half of the building should had stood, or at least 20 to 30 floors, but both came down to the f@#$! base; all the way down, not even 10 or 15 floors stood, and that is impossible to explain from a scientific or engineer point. Anything that came from the official report is just  bullshit and lies, how could the United States government  spent less money on  investigating the biggest terrorist attack on it's own soil than  what they spent on the investigation of the former president getting his ding dong suck by a gold digging whore? goggle it.

So is reality start to sink in for you two? Or are we are going to keep debating the same point over and over until you two realize how pathetically stupid you two really are?

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #232 on: March 04, 2016, 01:13:11 PM »
This two are so mentally handicapped that I'm starting to really feel sorry for their family.

Again the main point that the official story is bullshit is because is inherently impossible for 15 floors to bring down 90 floors to it's base as seen perfectly by the pictures that ropo the retard posted. On the link I posted on aerial pictures of WC7, you could see perfectly WTC5 and WTC6 half way destroy and burn and those stood, how?

https://thingseverybodyshouldknow.wordpress.com/tag/collapse/

WTC7 was between two tall building but somehow by miracle of who knows what, nothing happen to those buildings,  they got hit massively by the twin towers debris as well.  In the last video ropo the retard posted  they are showing us proof of the devastation they caused, your own video ropo the retard is showing proof how devastating the debris of the twin tower affected adjacent buildings, but some how only WC7 which was across the street CAME DOWN ON IT'S OWN FOOT PRINT,  only WC7, not the building to it's left nor the one on the right, just WC7 which was sitting in the middle,which makes it more incredible while WT5 and WT6 were in between and stood still while missing huge chunks of it's infrastructure and showing clear signs of been burn down as well.

Never again an event like this would happen guarantee, where fire would bring down buildings, yes the twin towers got hit by two planes, but they were specifically engineer to take such hit's, if anything half of the building should had stood, or at least 20 to 30 floors, but both came down to the f@#$! base; all the way down, not even 10 or 15 floors stood, and that is impossible to explain from a scientific or engineer point. Anything that came from the official report is just  bullshit and lies, how could the United States government  spent less money on  investigating the biggest terrorist attack on it's own soil than  what they spent on the investigation of the former president getting his ding dong suck by a gold digging whore? goggle it.

So is reality start to sink in for you two? Or are we are going to keep debating the same point over and over until you two realize how pathetically stupid you two really are?

It is impossible, according exactly what facts? It is impossible, BECAUSE FOIL HAT MORONS SAY SO. They don't have no way to prove it, because nothing like this has happen in the history of the universe, so they just use their imagination and claim it is impossible. Exactly that that proves? NOTHING. Now take a deep breath and calm down. Then think about this: IF SOME ONE SAY THAT HE HAS SEEN A FLYING COW, IS IT A FACT OR A CLAIM?  Dear fucking twat: CLAIMS DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING. By your logic the following argument has to be a fact: You are an imbecile, child of the inbreeding, the drooling idiot from the basement of your parents. Am I right? By all the evidence you have provide, it has to be..  ;D

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #233 on: March 04, 2016, 01:36:47 PM »
Ropo the retard attacking like the retarded inbreed that he is, insulting when he can't defend his point because no defensible explanation can be pointed to my flaws, lol. Watch the youtube videos of the twin towers again and just look where the planes hit, and just think for a second, and think hard you retard. HOW COULD BE POSSIBLE FOR 15 FLOORS PUSH DOWN THE REST OF THE 95 FLOORS TO IT'S BASE IN A DISINTEGRATED WAY?

And it's not tin foil morons saying so, OVER 1500 ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS ARE SAYING SO, YOU RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT.




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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #234 on: March 04, 2016, 02:47:50 PM »
This two are so mentally handicapped that I'm starting to really feel sorry for their family.

Again the main point that the official story is bullshit is because is inherently impossible for 15 floors to bring down 90 floors to it's base

Once more that's not why the WTC's came down.  Did you read the report or watch a youtube vid?


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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #235 on: March 04, 2016, 02:48:11 PM »
Ropo the retard attacking like the retarded inbreed that he is, insulting when he can't defend his point because no defensible explanation can be pointed to my flaws, lol. Watch the youtube videos of the twin towers again and just look where the planes hit, and just think for a second, and think hard you retard. HOW COULD BE POSSIBLE FOR 15 FLOORS PUSH DOWN THE REST OF THE 95 FLOORS TO IT'S BASE IN A DISINTEGRATED WAY?






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And it's not tin foil morons saying so, OVER 1500 ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS ARE SAYING SO, YOU RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT.

considering that there are 1.9  million (approx) people graduating with engineering degrees every year from just 10 countries in the world, makes your 1500 crackpots look pretty insignificant.

there are probably at least 10 million engineers in the world making that 1500 represent .015% of them.   :D

Try again youtube monkey

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #236 on: March 04, 2016, 05:17:51 PM »
Facts, facts, facts.....


Nasty little things for CTers

Lol what the hell is a CTer?

I'm starting to think you are merely desperate to protect the integrity of your government.

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #237 on: March 04, 2016, 05:49:33 PM »
Lol what the hell is a CTer?

I'm starting to think you are merely desperate to protect the integrity of your government.


No I hate my government.  It's ran by big corps not the people.   It's no longer a representative government.   I would love nothing better for my government to change because of a scandal or better yet a civil movement of change.  But 9/11 CT didn't happen the way you seem to suggest.   Use your head brink.  

A CTer is short for a conspiracy theorist.  

Now back to your woefullyy incorrect assumptions about how the WTCs where built and how any engineer is supposed to tell me about.  

Care to comment on what I posted showing how wrong you were?


Like so many CTers it seems you are running from it when you get debunked.  

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #238 on: March 05, 2016, 06:17:22 AM »
"considering that there are 1.9  million (approx) people graduating with engineering degrees every year from just 10 countries in the world, makes your 1500 crackpots look pretty insignificant.

there are probably at least 10 million engineers in the world making that 1500 represent .015% of them".   Cheesy

That's because the rest of the world could give a flying rats about 9/11 you dimwit, proven fact if you look around, most of the population are like sheep, specially here in the United States, where the every day citizen is only worry about their job, paying their mortgage and looking for punani. The rest of the engineers like you say with your retarded assumption, could really care less what happen that day, you know why? Because they make really good money and are enjoying the fruits of their hard work. And why would engineers of around the world would care about 9/11?, the ones that have come out have spoken clearly against the official story.

And all you have to do is the experiment for your self, ask any real engineer if what happened on 9/11 in his own personal opinion makes any sense? how could 15 floors of steel and concrete had enough weight to crash down 95 floors to it's base just because some steel was weaken by office fire which is no more than wood fire? And then come back and let us know what they told you, OK?

One more thing, what groups of engineers that do not work for the government have come out defending the official story then? Do you know any? put up some links then, and please don't show us the bullshit article of popular mechanic which have been debunked really easily on the videos I posted. Tick for tock. Your turn now

Even this absurd article makes more sense than the official story as crazy it may sound:

http://weshapelife.org/2016/03/04/russias-evidence-makes-us-uk-israel-the-real-911-terrorist/

Falling man – 911

The primary purpose of the nuclear weapon used on 911 was to produce a massive Gamma ray / neutron flux that would vaporize about 150 to 300 feet of 6 inch thick steal I-beams that constituted the central core of the WTC buildings. This created a free fall event as seen on TV that day. (Editor’s note: Critical information here.)

The flash would be hidden from sight due to the underground detonation. Most of the light was in the non-visible light spectrum any way. Over pressure would be reduced to 6 psi due to the blast traveling up the central core and neutron radiation vaporizing the TV antenna at the top of the building as see on TV.

The fallout would be mainly vaporized concrete cement and iron oxide. This is why after 911 they told everyone on TV that the beta radiation burns that people were getting were due to the caustic cement dust and not due to the radiation effects from the radioactive cement fallout. (Editor’s note: Fully confirmed)

The iron oxide found all over the place was what was left of the steel I beams. This was the so called Nano Thermite that was found everywhere. Fallout was limited to a 1 mile area around down town NYC. See charts. (Editor’s note: Received)

Radiation decay was reduced to safe low levels after 72 hrs., (Editor’s note: Fully confirmed) outside of ground zero its self. This is why the area was blocked off from the public for 3 days after the event, in order to let the radiation drop to safe levels.[1]


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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
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"No I hate my government.  It's ran by big corps not the people.   It's no longer a representative government.   I would love nothing better for my government to change because of a scandal or better yet a civil movement of change.  But 9/11 CT didn't happen the way you seem to suggest.   Use your head brink." 


But hey you two keep the retardation coming, the more you two keep posting, the easier it gets, the more inbreed you look, and what's obvious the lies in which we live. But hey Benghazi is still going strong on congress, lol. 3 deaths vs 3000, but republican conspiracy theory must be truth, but  the peoples conspiracy is just loonies and tin foil idiots, yup, with the weak democrats like our president Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton going along with the murder republicans.

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #241 on: March 05, 2016, 07:30:31 AM »






Let the sheep keep drinking the cool aid, the f@@#ing irony!

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #242 on: March 05, 2016, 07:59:58 AM »
"considering that there are 1.9  million (approx) people graduating with engineering degrees every year from just 10 countries in the world, makes your 1500 crackpots look pretty insignificant.

there are probably at least 10 million engineers in the world making that 1500 represent .015% of them".   Cheesy

That's because the rest of the world could give a flying rats about 9/11 you dimwit,

No they do. They are just smarter than those .015% of idiots who found a way to get an engineering degree.  Also, its a written about phenomena regarding CTer's in that CT's suck in even smart people in to believing some wild fantasy based on zero facts.

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proven fact if you look around, most of the population are like sheep, specially here in the United States, where the every day citizen is only worry about their job, paying their mortgage and looking for punani. The rest of the engineers like you say with your retarded assumption, could really care less what happen that day, you know why? Because they make really good money and are enjoying the fruits of their hard work.


Oh yeah the sheeple attack LMAO.  If there is credible evidence then herders will appear to lead them that way.  The problem is for you, is the thuthers theories aren't credible.

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And why would engineers of around the world would care about 9/11?, the ones that have come out have spoken clearly against the official story.

No because it only takes few minutes of examination to see if what was reported makes science sense.  That's why, 10 million engineers which is low, there is probably much more, have dismissed the Thruthers and complete idiots.
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And all you have to do is the experiment for your self, ask any real engineer if what happened on 9/11 in his own personal opinion makes any sense?

I have talked with several.  

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how could 15 floors of steel and concrete had enough weight to crash down 95 floors to it's base just because some steel was weaken by office fire which is no more than wood fire?

I won't ask them that question because that's not what happened.  Maybe if you actually knew what happened, you know... actually be in "the know", by reading the report you would know and stop being incorrect.

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And then come back and let us know what they told you, OK?

I did, we went over the report and he should me quite a few things, backed up by real science.

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One more thing, what groups of engineers that do not work for the government have come out defending the official story then?
Its not on anyone to defend the official story, it on you the nut job CTer's to show where it isn't true.  And in 15 yours you have all failed time and time again.  NOT 1 piece of good evidence stacking in your favor have been validated. You have only live in mis-truths and rhetoric like i have exposed you to have on this thread.  You are the laughing stock of the world.  Almost like a group of flat worlders.

You run away from science and facts every time your little CT gets exposed like little cowards.


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Do you know any? put up some links then, and please don't show us the bullshit article of popular mechanic which have been debunked really easily on the videos I posted. Tick for tock. Your turn now

I am not a youtube monkey like you.  There much more than the Popular mechanics out there and its not on youtube, monkey boy.
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Here is another report which makes more sense than the official story as crazy it may sound:

http://weshapelife.org/2016/03/04/russias-evidence-makes-us-uk-israel-the-real-911-terrorist/

Falling man – 911

The primary purpose of the nuclear weapon used on 911 was to produce a massive Gamma ray / neutron flux that would vaporize about 150 to 300 feet of 6 inch thick steal I-beams that constituted the central core of the WTC buildings. This created a free fall event as seen on TV that day. (Editor’s note: Critical information here.)

The flash would be hidden from sight due to the underground detonation. Most of the light was in the non-visible light spectrum any way. Over pressure would be reduced to 6 psi due to the blast traveling up the central core and neutron radiation vaporizing the TV antenna at the top of the building as see on TV.

The fallout would be mainly vaporized concrete cement and iron oxide. This is why after 911 they told everyone on TV that the beta radiation burns that people were getting were due to the caustic cement dust and not due to the radiation effects from the radioactive cement fallout. (Editor’s note: Fully confirmed)

The iron oxide found all over the place was what was left of the steel I beams. This was the so called Nano Thermite that was found everywhere. Fallout was limited to a 1 mile area around down town NYC. See charts. (Editor’s note: Received)

Radiation decay was reduced to safe low levels after 72 hrs., (Editor’s note: Fully confirmed) outside of ground zero its self. This is why the area was blocked off from the public for 3 days after the event, in order to let the radiation drop to safe levels.[1]

Now you are saying it was a gamma ray neutron flux?

Dude, you are insane and stupid.

Get a life.

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #243 on: March 05, 2016, 10:41:25 AM »
Didn't the top 15-20 floors pretty much fall 50 feet onto the rest of the building since at least 5 floors were significantly damaged?

Dropping that amount of weight 50 feet onto something would create an enormous amount of force,

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #244 on: March 05, 2016, 11:35:58 AM »
Didn't the top 15-20 floors pretty much fall 50 feet onto the rest of the building since at least 5 floors were significantly damaged?

Dropping that amount of weight 50 feet onto something would create an enormous amount of force,

Not to mention everything else that was going on at the time in the building.

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #245 on: March 05, 2016, 11:37:38 AM »
"The perimeter structure was constructed with extensive use of prefabricated modular pieces, which consisted of three columns, three stories tall, connected by spandrel plates. The perimeter columns had a square cross section, 14 inches (36 cm) on a side, and were constructed of welded steel plate.[50] The thickness of the plates and grade of structural steel varied over the height of the tower, ranging from 36,000 to 100,000 pounds per square inch[51] (260 to 670 MPa). The strength of the steel and thickness of the steel plates decreased with height because they were required to support lesser amounts of building mass on higher floors.[50] The tube-frame design required 40 percent less structural steel than conventional building designs.[52] From the 7th floor to the ground level, and down to the foundation, the columns were spaced 10 feet (3 m) apart.[53] All columns were placed on bedrock, which, unlike that in Midtown Manhattan, where the bedrock is shallow, is at 65–85 feet (20–26 m) below the surface.[54]"

Did they fall in free fall so the floors below didn't offer any resistance on it's way to the base? According to the article above the columns grew in thickness as it went down, more thickness more strength, but somehow the pancake effect grew in kinetic strength for 95 floors all the down to it's base? Did you not see the videos? Did you not see the portion of the building below the fire that was offering resistance to the merely to 15 floors above is a huge difference?

"Didn't the top 15-20 floors pretty much fall 50 feet onto the rest of the building since at least 5 floors were significantly damaged?

Significantly damaged, but offering resistance, key note.

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #246 on: March 05, 2016, 11:48:20 AM »
Just to summarize some of the lunacy and ignorance in this CT:

For the first time in recorded human history, fire, better yet, OFFICE FIRE, brought down, not one, not two but 3  buildings made of steel and concrete.

Completely incorrect and has been shown to be incorrect.  

Also, a logical fallacy as that a passenger jet hasn't hit a 100+ story building and that biulding still stood.

 please explain to us retards according to you how the top 15 floors brought down 90 floors of concrete and steel, \

Again that's not what happened and it shows that CTer didn't bother to research the report but instead got all his information from youtube vids produced by amateurs and based rhetoric and persuasive techniques.

One more thing and I'm done, POST A VIDEO OF A SKYSCRAPER ON FIRE THAT HAS COME DOWN ON IT'S OWN FOOT PRINT, and I will post videos of control demolition, and we shall see who wins, ok?

It was shown conclusively that its didn't comedown on its own foot print.

Engineers don't design structures that size to be 'just strong enough'. That's ridiculous. And it's not the steel that protects the building from gravity, it's the concrete columns which have tremendous compressive strength. Steel is merely meant to keep the concrete from twisting apart and to protect its integrity from vector type forces. Any engineer will tell you that.

this one was ran from, becuase it was shown that Brink said "any engineer" he didn't bother to look up how the WTC were constructed showing he was 100% WRONG.



Did they fall in free fall so the floors below didn't offer any resistance on it's way to the base? According to the article above the columns grew in thickness as it went down, more thickness more strength, but somehow the pancake effect grew in kinetic strength for 95 floors all the down to it's base? Did you not see the videos? Did you not see the portion of the building below the fire that was offering resistance to the merely to 15 floors above is a huge difference?

"Didn't the top 15-20 floors pretty much fall 50 feet onto the rest of the building since at least 5 floors were significantly damaged?

Significantly damaged, but offering resistance, key note.

Once again M4tad0r still can't get it right.  Why?  I think its beyond his capacity to understand.


http://weshapelife.org/2016/03/04/russias-evidence-makes-us-uk-israel-the-real-911-terrorist/

Falling man – 911

The primary purpose of the nuclear weapon used on 911 was to produce a massive Gamma ray / neutron flux that would vaporize about 150 to 300 feet of 6 inch thick steal I-beams that constituted the central core of the WTC buildings. This created a free fall event as seen on TV that day. (Editor’s note: Critical information here.)


And now the icing on the cake this one shows just how nuts a Thruther can be.  Now it was nuke!!



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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #247 on: March 05, 2016, 05:38:51 PM »
"For the first time in recorded human history, fire, better yet, OFFICE FIRE, brought down, not one, not two but 3  buildings made of steel and concrete.

Completely incorrect and has been shown to be incorrect.  

Also, a logical fallacy as that a passenger jet hasn't hit a 100+ story building and that building still stood."

Then, where are your evidence you fuking retard, show us examples, not bullshit pull out your ass.

You keep saying that it's proven incorrect, by who? You? Fuck sake, if you're going to argue, bring up evidence, videos, articles, pictures, something to back up your stupidity.

You keep trying to twist my answers and bring nothing to the table, I been destroying you with just videos of YOUTUBE, but somehow you keep coming back for more. I sense the retardation is strong within you.

You said that the government lies to you, but you think they were telling you the truth on this one? The event that unleashed the most abusive form of power of the state on the people like the patriot act, giving free reign to spy on everybody. When you had  General Clark told us  numerous times they(Republican neocons) had plans to destabilize the middle east since the 90's, prove is that the United States is still stuck in the middle east, Iraq, Syria, talking of going back to Libya now, Afghanistan. Wasted trillions dollars of tax payers dollars to fat up the corrupt cronies in Washington through war, on nothing but lies sense the Afghanistan war started.

But you think the government told  you the truth on what happened on 9/11? F@#$k!!! Talking about having your head up your ass, please stop posting for the love of God. They lie to you man, to every body, because they knew they could manipulate the people through the media and have the whole country sing -America Fuck Yeah!!! Like they did, the population wouldn't care as long we killed some goat hoarders and sand people on the other side of the world to make them pay for being brown people. Do you get it? THEY LIE TO YOU, RETARD!!!!





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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #248 on: March 05, 2016, 07:00:24 PM »
"For the first time in recorded human history, fire, better yet, OFFICE FIRE, brought down, not one, not two but 3  buildings made of steel and concrete.

Completely incorrect and has been shown to be incorrect.  

Also, a logical fallacy as that a passenger jet hasn't hit a 100+ story building and that building still stood."

Then, where are your evidence you fuking retard, show us examples, not bullshit pull out your ass.

You keep saying that it's proven incorrect, by who? You? Fuck sake, if you're going to argue, bring up evidence, videos, articles, pictures, something to back up your stupidity.

You keep trying to twist my answers and bring nothing to the table, I been destroying you with just videos of YOUTUBE, but somehow you keep coming back for more. I sense the retardation is strong within you.

You said that the government lies to you, but you think they were telling you the truth on this one? The event that unleashed the most abusive form of power of the state on the people like the patriot act, giving free reign to spy on everybody. When you had  General Clark told us  numerous times they(Republican neocons) had plans to destabilize the middle east since the 90's, prove is that the United States is still stuck in the middle east, Iraq, Syria, talking of going back to Libya now, Afghanistan. Wasted trillions dollars of tax payers dollars to fat up the corrupt cronies in Washington through war, on nothing but lies sense the Afghanistan war started.

But you think the government told  you the truth on what happened on 9/11? F@#$k!!! Talking about having your head up your ass, please stop posting for the love of God. They lie to you man, to every body, because they knew they could manipulate the people through the media and have the whole country sing -America Fuck Yeah!!! Like they did, the population wouldn't care as long we killed some goat hoarders and sand people on the other side of the world to make them pay for being brown people. Do you get it? THEY LIE TO YOU, RETARD!!!!






Hes even used the term conspiracy theorist LOL which was created by government specifically to make disbelievers seem crazy.

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Re: who believes 9/11 was as inside job
« Reply #249 on: March 05, 2016, 08:23:42 PM »
No I hate my government.  It's ran by big corps not the people.   It's no longer a representative government.   I would love nothing better for my government to change because of a scandal or better yet a civil movement of change.  But 9/11 CT didn't happen the way you seem to suggest.   Use your head brink.  

A CTer is short for a conspiracy theorist.  

Now back to your woefullyy incorrect assumptions about how the WTCs where built and how any engineer is supposed to tell me about.  

Care to comment on what I posted showing how wrong you were?


Like so many CTers it seems you are running from it when you get debunked.  


Bump for Brink.   Lol

Or should I say run brink run?