How long has he been working out? If he's been training 30 years, he's not far off a natural physique.
Probably on test and hgh, considers it HRT, and himself natural.
I`m not saying this guy`s natural, but a buddy of mine years ago,asked me to write him up a diet for a contest he was thinking of doing (his first one ever),after following the diet for 16 weeks he looked incredible..........neve r took any juice,incredibly thick pecs,great quads,abs/intercostals,arms..........needed more delt roundness,and calves, but kicked a lot of ass in natty shows.What made him look so good is over 20 years of consistant training, eating right, and living clean!!It`s not an imposibilty for this guy to be clean at all.Not everybody uses gear, and some are genetically blessed and totally dedicated.
Juiced to the gills.
According to Darden Viator was clean during the Colorado experiment where he gained 63 pounds of muscle in 30 days.
you're starting to sound like Howard