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« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2011, 09:36:16 AM »
first off i'd like to give credit to the mighty buselmo for coming forward and dispelling any current beliefs and notions about what it takes to get in shape. the guy speaks the truth and its refreshing to say the least.

heres the deal- i have been for the better part of my training/competing life a 'strict dieting'; guy. this means all ratios and calories were measured. nothing given to chance. steroids were used but not relied upon to give me the size and conditioning i wanted.

i never in all those years achieved what i thought of as my full potential competitively, and that played a big part in why i quit- i just figured i didnt have the genetics (the other part being i honestly hated being onstage).

over the past 2 years i started gh. my shit is good. as is any anabolics i have used. one thing i have been very lucky with is getting good gear. i built a good bit of quality in this time- no not size, quality- i didnt want nor do i now want to get bigger. but for the past two years i have had an almost impossible time getting that last little bit of stubborn fat off no matter how hard i dieted. by stubborn fat i mean the last 2% to get me shredded looking to the point you dont need a diuretic to see the quality of the muscle or conditioning- i have always thought that if you were lean enough you wont need a diuretic to look good and i still feel this way, unless your competing, much different story as those stage light as very unforgiving- anyone can look good in their living room.

so, i have sat sat with unhappily with a bf level for the last 2 years i couldnt shake off which was frustratiing to say the least as every time i got lean, i got way to stringy and started to lose too much lean. it was a tricky balancing act for sure.

fast forward to that last two weeks- and this is where buselmo's truths come into play. i went to south american on vacation. i took with me enough eq, winstrol and my prop for 3 weeks cause i am juice monkey at heart and this is what we do- we never stray far from the syringe kids- if you want to be big you gotta learn this rule.- no i wont tell you how i transported it- pm me if you want to know. in that amount of time i trained twice. two upper body workouts. i didnt count calories. i didnt count protein but i can bet it was less than 100 grams a day- for a period of 4-5 days when i was in the mountains i can assure you it was less than 50. i existed on grains, and fruits. i was climbing thru mountain passes, sometimes elevations of over 2000M in one days time- picture being on a stair climber for 6-7 hours a day.

i got back yesterday and when i looked in the mirror (cause you really dont have any idea how your body has changed till you see it in the same mirror and lighting you always are used to seeing it) i had lost that final 2%. i was bigger and rounder than i have ever been. my legs/calves which i havent trained now for a month are considerably fuller from all the climbing. all on less than 100 grams of protein a day.

heres the moral of the story and guys like gh and buselmo and will grant etc etc will keep pounding away at it till you all get it- THIS IS A DRUG DRIVEN PAST TIME AND RESULTS ARE TOTALLY DEPENDANT ON INTAKE AND NOTHING LESS. fuck calories. fuck protein. fuck macros. fuck gurus- take your steroids like good little boys and girls and a lot of them. eat all the carbs you need to give you whatever fuel your body will need to keep moving and working, and if you cant afford 15units of gh a day, get your lazy ass on a stair climber and grind out some long ass intense cardio sessions to get your metabolism going and burn off the baby fat. thats it. and if you can afford the gh, then fuck the stairclimber too.

why did i take the time to write this- cause for the most part i come here to bust balls and have fun. cause i know there are guys on here in the same boat as me- good physiques who have been busting their ass for years dieting and counting macros. its not necessary and it'll be hard for you to get your mind around it after decades of being fed the same ignorant bullshit about 'dieting' cause i was the same way. diet diet diet. keep the protein up. what a joke.

heres my challenge for guys who are lean but trying to get off that last 2 %- try it for two weeks. eat whatever macros you want. dont stuff yourself full- by now you should know your bodies well enough to know when you need fuel and when you dont. and give your body only enough to keep going. exist on coffee the rest of the time as a stim. eat when you are hungry- fuck the clock. do some cardio if you cant afford the gh. come back here and tell me thats you didnt lose that bf, get fuller and look better.

the mighty no one has spoken. let all who read his words be the wiser for it.

your welcome bitches

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Fuck all this.  The best shape I was ever in was also at the point of my life when I was producing a lot of natural test.

Now what does being in shape mean?  Looking like Ronnie Coleman?  A Men's health cover model? That kid from twilight?  This is a big factor.  If you want to look like an IFBB pro then yes 15 IU of GH a day is needed, if you want to look like the werewolf from twilight, all you need to do is watch your total calories, be active and take some ECA near the end of your diet.

For me when I was in my best shape, veins running through my abs , but I didn't look like a competitor but more like a male stripper.  I ate 6 boiled eggs in the morning, 1 slice of toast and only had 2 egg yolks, 2 BBQ chicken breasts and rice , steak and rice and a protein shake.  I ate this every day.  I had a body that litteraly had the hottest girls walk over to touch me and feel my abs.

Now I am about 4-5 times stronger and bigger, look more like a bodybuilder than a male stripper, now only guys want to touch my arms and abs, girls stay a couple feet back.

I want to look like that twink again, but my mind is fucked, I can't go back, I can't lift lighter, I can't do 225 for 25 reps because I'd rather do 350 for 8.  I like the feeling and am addicited to the feeling of getting stronger and lifting heavier.

I never needed a guru because I've always had an active mindset, took nutrition and kinesiology in college as extra credits so I know what works and what doesn't for me.  FOR ME, not you, not someone else, not some bullshit cookie cutter diet that may work for 25% of the population but for me.

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Re: read this if your serious about getting in shape and want the truth
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2011, 09:37:43 AM »
I never thought getting in shape was so easy , only after i upped my gh dose to 10ius + daily..I was  too always counting and measuring food , endless hrs of cardio..upped my gh , no cardio , leaner and having a cheat meal daily and in better condition...it's a drug game, period

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« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2011, 09:38:05 AM »
I think nearly all of us can relate in some way as people who used to do everything right with disappointing results...only to up the gear and realize how stupid we all were.

Here is a quote from a post in the misc this morning. This guy is 5'10 250lbs and looks great

Quote from: Halfway;796819411
what does it matter? Pretend you can look like that natural like the other delusional kids here, tell yourself that if you just train hard enough and long enough it will happen.. waste your best years being an OCD loner who passes up parties to stay home and get a good nights sleep, be OCD about meal timings and supplements, and never missing a workout and other stuff that doesn't matter... then eventually give up in disgust hating yourself for not being good enough.

meanwhile go suck some fake naturals c-ck in his workout journal or contest prep diary and tell him how much you admire his dedication and work ethic and defend him online when people call him out for lying.

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« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2011, 09:45:33 AM »
Impressive armshot in your avi.
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no one , aint spamming , bro...homeboy asked ;D


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« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2011, 09:47:19 AM »
That's what I'm talkin about! Very good. ^^

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« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2011, 09:49:14 AM »
That's what I'm talkin about! Very good. ^^

appreciate that , meng

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« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2011, 09:49:40 AM »
Fuck all this.  The best shape I was ever in was also at the point of my life when I was producing a lot of natural test.

Now what does being in shape mean?  Looking like Ronnie Coleman?  A Men's health cover model? That kid from twilight?  This is a big factor.  If you want to look like an IFBB pro then yes 15 IU of GH a day is needed, if you want to look like the werewolf from twilight, all you need to do is watch your total calories, be active and take some ECA near the end of your diet.

For me when I was in my best shape, veins running through my abs , but I didn't look like a competitor but more like a male stripper.  I ate 6 boiled eggs in the morning, 1 slice of toast and only had 2 egg yolks, 2 BBQ chicken breasts and rice , steak and rice and a protein shake.  I ate this every day.  I had a body that litteraly had the hottest girls walk over to touch me and feel my abs.

Now I am about 4-5 times stronger and bigger, look more like a bodybuilder than a male stripper, now only guys want to touch my arms and abs, girls stay a couple feet back.

I want to look like that twink again, but my mind is fucked, I can't go back, I can't lift lighter, I can't do 225 for 25 reps because I'd rather do 350 for 8.  I like the feeling and am addicited to the feeling of getting stronger and lifting heavier.

I never needed a guru because I've always had an active mindset, took nutrition and kinesiology in college as extra credits so I know what works and what doesn't for me.  FOR ME, not you, not someone else, not some bullshit cookie cutter diet that may work for 25% of the population but for me.

lol have you ever posted a pic to verify any of these crazy claims?

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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2011, 09:51:28 AM »
Thanks for sharing no one.  You said "picture being on a stair climber for 6-7 hours a day" when describing your physical activity on your holiday.  Do you think that was also a big factor in getting rid of the bit of stubborn fat as opposed to only being the reduction of protein/calories and intake of drugs?

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« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2011, 09:51:47 AM »
i stopped eating like a flex magazine dorkie after a few years of training, even stopped buying protein powder now and actually made a growth leap on the moment i thought it wasnt possible anymore. focussed only on training more intense and smart. these schemes in those mags turn people into permabulkers instead of athletes.

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« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2011, 10:00:34 AM »
Magz, Supps companies , they all work in concert to sell you  the lie..and make money out of you,..They tell you need certain  amount of protein, supps or you wont reach your goal ...I always question the '45 minutes window of  oppourtunity crap after workouts and that you need a faster protein and fast carbs PWO .. it makes  sense  on paper but ive also gotten in shape ,eating  a solid meal for pwo and didnt notice a difference, actually ive gotten harder and leaner eating solid food for all my meals than when ive thrown 2-3 shakes in the mix..

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« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2011, 10:49:52 AM »
lol have you ever posted a pic to verify any of these crazy claims?

Why?  Do you need more jerk off material?  Are the Nasser photos getting old?

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« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2011, 10:53:57 AM »

For me when I was in my best shape, veins running through my abs , but I didn't look like a competitor but more like a male stripper.  I ate 6 boiled eggs in the morning, 1 slice of toast and only had 2 egg yolks, 2 BBQ chicken breasts and rice , steak and rice and a protein shake.  I ate this every day.  I had a body that litteraly had the hottest girls walk over to touch me and feel my abs.

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« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2011, 10:54:28 AM »
Mon of Steel:  Great post up above. 

I'm married now, so going back to the ripped, pussy-slayer build isn't an issue..  but I hear ya.

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« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2011, 10:58:20 AM »
bodybuilding is the drugs

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« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2011, 10:59:34 AM »
Yup....and it's funny watching people's faces when you tell them what you eat and it flies in the face of everything they have read in the stupid magazines for the last 10 years...It's like they just found out there is no Santa Claus LOL
The majority of Getbig must still believe in Santa Claus because they still don`t believe you can eat whatever you want, natural or not.

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« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2011, 11:01:10 AM »
Getting in good shape is consistency and genetics.

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« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2011, 11:02:02 AM »
no one , aint spamming , bro...homeboy asked ;D



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« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2011, 11:19:31 AM »
first off i'd like to give credit to the mighty buselmo for coming forward and dispelling any current beliefs and notions about what it takes to get in shape. the guy speaks the truth and its refreshing to say the least.

heres the deal- i have been for the better part of my training/competing life a 'strict dieting'; guy. this means all ratios and calories were measured. nothing given to chance. steroids were used but not relied upon to give me the size and conditioning i wanted.

i never in all those years achieved what i thought of as my full potential competitively, and that played a big part in why i quit- i just figured i didnt have the genetics (the other part being i honestly hated being onstage).

over the past 2 years i started gh. my shit is good. as is any anabolics i have used. one thing i have been very lucky with is getting good gear. i built a good bit of quality in this time- no not size, quality- i didnt want nor do i now want to get bigger. but for the past two years i have had an almost impossible time getting that last little bit of stubborn fat off no matter how hard i dieted. by stubborn fat i mean the last 2% to get me shredded looking to the point you dont need a diuretic to see the quality of the muscle or conditioning- i have always thought that if you were lean enough you wont need a diuretic to look good and i still feel this way, unless your competing, much different story as those stage light as very unforgiving- anyone can look good in their living room.

so, i have sat sat with unhappily with a bf level for the last 2 years i couldnt shake off which was frustratiing to say the least as every time i got lean, i got way to stringy and started to lose too much lean. it was a tricky balancing act for sure.

fast forward to that last two weeks- and this is where buselmo's truths come into play. i went to south american on vacation. i took with me enough eq, winstrol and my prop for 3 weeks cause i am juice monkey at heart and this is what we do- we never stray far from the syringe kids- if you want to be big you gotta learn this rule.- no i wont tell you how i transported it- pm me if you want to know. in that amount of time i trained twice. two upper body workouts. i didnt count calories. i didnt count protein but i can bet it was less than 100 grams a day- for a period of 4-5 days when i was in the mountains i can assure you it was less than 50. i existed on grains, and fruits. i was climbing thru mountain passes, sometimes elevations of over 2000M in one days time- picture being on a stair climber for 6-7 hours a day.

i got back yesterday and when i looked in the mirror (cause you really dont have any idea how your body has changed till you see it in the same mirror and lighting you always are used to seeing it) i had lost that final 2%. i was bigger and rounder than i have ever been. my legs/calves which i havent trained now for a month are considerably fuller from all the climbing. all on less than 100 grams of protein a day.

heres the moral of the story and guys like gh and buselmo and will grant etc etc will keep pounding away at it till you all get it- THIS IS A DRUG DRIVEN PAST TIME AND RESULTS ARE TOTALLY DEPENDANT ON INTAKE AND NOTHING LESS. fuck calories. fuck protein. fuck macros. fuck gurus- take your steroids like good little boys and girls and a lot of them. eat all the carbs you need to give you whatever fuel your body will need to keep moving and working, and if you cant afford 15units of gh a day, get your lazy ass on a stair climber and grind out some long ass intense cardio sessions to get your metabolism going and burn off the baby fat. thats it. and if you can afford the gh, then fuck the stairclimber too.

why did i take the time to write this- cause for the most part i come here to bust balls and have fun. cause i know there are guys on here in the same boat as me- good physiques who have been busting their ass for years dieting and counting macros. its not necessary and it'll be hard for you to get your mind around it after decades of being fed the same ignorant bullshit about 'dieting' cause i was the same way. diet diet diet. keep the protein up. what a joke.

heres my challenge for guys who are lean but trying to get off that last 2 %- try it for two weeks. eat whatever macros you want. dont stuff yourself full- by now you should know your bodies well enough to know when you need fuel and when you dont. and give your body only enough to keep going. exist on coffee the rest of the time as a stim. eat when you are hungry- fuck the clock. do some cardio if you cant afford the gh. come back here and tell me thats you didnt lose that bf, get fuller and look better.

the mighty no one has spoken. let all who read his words be the wiser for it.

your welcome bitches

(and a punch in the cock for the first person who says 'im not reading all that- coles notes please')





You could have just wrote two words, "Adonis Principles" and not have had to type all of that you know.

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« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2011, 11:23:48 AM »
You could have just wrote two words, "Adonis Principles" and not have had to type all of that you know.

But then he'd have to throw away his keyboard for typing such filth.

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« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2011, 11:24:33 AM »
But then he'd have to throw away his keyboard for typing such filth.
Why? 

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« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2011, 11:25:58 AM »
Getting in good shape is consistency and genetics.

I agree

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« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2011, 11:31:09 AM »
I agree
No, its just low calories and consistency. Anybody can be in great shape.

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« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2011, 11:31:45 AM »
no one , aint spamming , bro...homeboy asked ;D



dude if i had arms like that id be posting the shit up too! jesus.

lose the pink dress though.

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« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2011, 11:32:51 AM »
No, its just low calories and consistency. Anybody can be in great shape.

It depends what you call great shape ,Great Adonis.

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« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2011, 11:33:58 AM »
no one , aint spamming , bro...homeboy asked ;D



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