You are wrong if you say protein powder is garbage.

[MrBigandCut]

Dorian owns a supplement company, he is trying to be more modest than the rest of the lying twats, but still makes allot of money out of products, do you realy think he would sell any if you lot really understood it is more 1.5-1.8g per KILO! You do not need that much protein, most people do not consume enough carbs and use their excessive protein intake for energy purposes not for cell replacement/new cells.

No this was before Dorain had a supplement company!

[NeilGM]

No this was before Dorain had a supplement company!

When he was sponsered...you still not getting it are you, the same filthy lieing supplement companies that GH15 talks about are all the ones who come up with these ridiculous figures! If they can lie about supplements making you grow, they can lie about the doseage also, more doseage = more products sold!

[gh15]

I can't believe that we are even about cholesterol when most of us are juiced up to the gills ha. If there is one thing that will fuck our cholesterol levels it is the gear, not eggs ha

then why add up yelow of egg and so many? you get what im trying to say here? you already do hormones ...many abuse hormones,, so no need to eat many whole eggs..you can eat them but mostly count ofn eggwhites

gh15 approved

[notsureifsrs]

that's all I'm saying.

I agree with your other points, except that protein powder doesn't make me fart personally. Solid food is way more filling, which is why I do eat mostly solid food. I only have pre and post workout (with oats or some type of carb), and also before bed I have casein and whey together (with almonds)

Now I understand what you are saying. I am only arguing that results won't be any different. GH15 seems to indicate that results will be different

And you are following gh15 advices, using tren and gh and sometimes dnp...
bro i like you, but you are deep lost.

[gh15]

When he was sponsered...you still not getting it are you, the same filthy lieing supplement companies that GH15 talks about are all the ones who come up with these ridiculous figures! If they can lie about supplements making you grow, they can lie about the doseage also, more doseage = more products sold!

dorian yates secret?


HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE,,

ANADROLA! ! !

TRENBOLONA ACATATO

SOME TESTOSTERONA ... CYCLING IN AND OUT...

ANABOLICS SUCH AS NANDROLONA AND EQ  OFFSEASON AND PREP  DEPENDING ON OVER ALL GOAL

INSULINA


this is dorian yates secret friends...it wasnt some nutrition metod or training metod,, he was a very average fella that went on hormoen the right time and responded to them well ,, and then learned them and how to get the most  out of them ,, he knew you can not be on mega dose testosteroaan and look like competetive bodybuild of highest kind...so what he did? he put in anadrola and reduced testosterona drasticaly as in cycle testosterona ,,
it wassnt anything to do with training or eating specific type of corns lol

gh15 approved

[NeilGM]

then why add up yelow of egg and so many? you get what im trying to say here? you already do hormones ...many abuse hormones,, so no need to eat many whole eggs..you can eat them but mostly count ofn eggwhites

gh15 approve

I gotta disagree here, ok yeah if you eat 20-30 eggs a day im sure that would be no good for you, just as if you ate 20-30 apples a day, but I do not believe that the Cholesterol that is inside the egg has anything to do with your blood levels. There is no evidence to suggest this what so ever, personally I think its destroyed in the gut by the liver.. the thing that affects your cholesterol in my opinion is lifestyle, health, genetics and diet.

[MrBigandCut]

When he was sponsered...you still not getting it are you, the same filthy lieing supplement companies that GH15 talks about are all the ones who come up with these ridiculous figures! If they can lie about supplements making you grow, they can lie about the doseage also, more doseage = more products sold!

No I do get it and i believe that you don't need protein powder its just I reckon it doesn't necessarily hinder you either, like I said I saw a 202 competitor dry as dry can be 3-4 % and he was having protein powder with his oats 2 scoops maybe 2 times a day everyday!! I saw it with my own eyes!!!! I have a scoop here and there just to make my oats or egg whites taste a little better no other reason!!

[NeilGM]

dorian yates secret?


HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE,,

ANADROLA! ! !

TRENBOLONA ACATATO

SOME TESTOSTERONA ... CYCLING IN AND OUT...

ANABOLICS SUCH AS NANDROLONA AND EQ  OFFSEASON AND PREP  DEPENDING ON OVER ALL GOAL

INSULINA


this is dorian yates secret friends...it wasnt some nutrition metod or training metod,, he was a very average fella that went on hormoen the right time and responded to them well ,, and then learned them and how to get the most  out of them ,, he knew you can not be on mega dose testosteroaan and look like competetive bodybuild of highest kind...so what he did? he put in anadrola and reduced testosterona drasticaly as in cycle testosterona ,,
it wassnt anything to do with training or eating specific type of corns lol

gh15 approved

Exactly, Dorian has got good genetics for response to specific drugs.

[gh15]

I gotta disagree here, ok yeah if you eat 20-30 eggs a day im sure that would be no good for you, just as if you ate 20-30 apples a day, but I do not believe that the Cholesterol that is inside the egg has anything to do with your blood levels. There is no evidence to suggest this what so ever, personally I think its destroyed in the gut by the liver.. the thing that affects your cholesterol in my opinion is lifestyle, health, genetics and diet.

try to boil egg and eat the yellows,, i did it for many years so did mataraza....eat that yellow,, you will be able to feeeeeel the arteries clogged on you ,, you wil be able to feeeel it,, now some dotn give a fuck they say its all in the head,, but that yellow of the egg is number one reason for heart attack  same as high saturated fat beef,,

you ned to be intune with your body thats what arnold and serge meant ...nthing to do with training but! it has all to do with health...you can FEEEEL you get slower when you eat those damn yellow in high amount,, it is not recomded by me,, yes you can eat couple but in general eating a lot of them not a good thing

gh15 approved

[MrBigandCut]

I believe Dorain had the powder! didnt do jack shit nutrition wise but didnt hinder him also!! I believe you can still get ripped with the right DRUGS in the system then its mainly just down to calories for getting super conditioning!!!

[NeilGM]

try to boil egg and eat the yellows,, i did it for many years so did mataraza....eat that yellow,, you will be able to feeeeeel the arteries clogged on you ,, you wil be able to feeeel it,, now some dotn give a fuck they say its all in the head,, but that yellow of the egg is number one reason for heart attack  same as high saturated fat beef,,

you ned to be intune with your body thats what arnold and serge meant ...nthing to do with training but! it has all to do with health...you can FEEEEL you get slower when you eat those damn yellow in high amount,, it is not recomded by me,, yes you can eat couple but in general eating a lot of them not a good thing

gh15 approved

I agree, don't eat lots and lots of anything but in my opinion any clogging from eggs is more to do with the saturated fat, same as if you ate lots of red meat...

Protein poweder is full of Cholesterol by the way lol

[V Man]

16 oz of egg whites and a small can of pineapple mix in a blender. Maybe throw in a banana. For the lactose tolerant people throw in some ice cream. You'll never want go near another protein powder again.

16 oz of egg whites would be close to $4.00 I'm guessing. A can of pineapple is close to $1.00...add a banana, another 30-40 cents.

That is a $5 + protein shake.

Whey protein shake with the same extra ingredients would be half that easily. Not saying the egg white protein is not superior, but I don't think most could afford to do it day in and day out...especially when adding hormones into the equation.

[MrBigandCut]

I can't believe that we are even about cholesterol when most of us are juiced up to the gills ha. If there is one thing that will fuck our cholesterol levels it is the gear, not eggs ha

When on the juice your ratios of good to bad cholestrol levels change for the worse, therefore it just seems logical to me to try and not make the ratio even worse by adding loads of saterated fats to the mix! Sticking with a low fat foods lean meats, white fish, and egg whites seems a far better idea in keeping your ratios in a better zone. Also keeping your blood trycler in check by not having lots of processed sugar is also I good idea to avoid the possible heart attack whilst long term  juicing!

[Moen]

He probably meant to say the steroids' effect is that pronounced, changing foods won't matter one bit in the bigger picture. That may well be the truth.
But we really don't know so not taking the possible extra risk might be best.

[irishdave]

You going on about having all these egg whites but aren't egg whites only like 20 cals per egg, wtf? I'm 6'5" 250lbs (cruising with low sust doses and 5iu/kigs a day) and eat eat all day but I rarely eat more than 3 whole eggs (boiled) a day. I might try this egg thing out.

[wes]

He probably meant to say the steroids' effect is that pronounced, changing foods won't matter one bit in the bigger picture. That may well be the truth.
But we really don't know so not taking the possible extra risk might be best.

Just think how much better the GH crew of guys on here eating donuts and fast food would be if they followed a good diet.

[irishdave]

BTW no way would I get my calories in without having a PROTEIN SHAKE or two a day (extra 1500cals), I simply don't have time with work.

[wes]

BTW no way would I get my calories in without having a PROTEIN SHAKE or two a day (extra 1500cals), I simply don't have time with work.

Same here,I have no appetite early AM plus very little time to prepare food.

[Vikingman]

My Dr has bashed protein powders saying there is DHEA in them which in turn interferes with my test HRT-there are no walmarts in NY true-but Ive been getting liquid egg whites for 4.50 for 32oz-100gr protein

[g101]

anadrola mimics the testosterona thickness with out water bloat if lean 

here is another secret 

[MrBigandCut]

I went to a seminar about 20 years ago as a Kid and a pro was giving a talk on supplements. At the end I approached the Pro and said do I really need all this shit to do well? He whispered in my ear and said "no just eat normal food kid its all bullshit". I really have believed this and didnt think that any Pro's really took this stuff until one stayed at my house about a couple of years ago. I know that people like shaun ray etc never used protein powder precontest in th 90's and said they were a no no when trying to get in shape so I was astonished when I saw this Pro mixing powders with his oats right up until the day of the comp! When I questioned him about it he would laugh and say " Ah your one of those are you! oh dear man! LOOK AT ME AND LOOK AT YOU? NOW WHO IS RIGHT? " Me a natural at the time standing 5 8 180LBS at 10% b/f and him at 5 5 202 at 3-4 % ! I couldn't really argue and it stuck in my mind that prehaps the protein powder really doesn't stop you getting ripped to 3-4% its just about the drugs and the calorie deficency!

[dustin]

Useless is a strong word. I place it relatively lower on the valuable protein sources scale.

I used to have a dozen scoops a day and then tried none for a few months. Now I'm just taking a scoop in my protein shakes (egg whites being the main protein source). Protein powders taste pretty good nowadays and they offer a bit more than just protein now. I make a tub last a few months and would never stress over running out or needing to "up the whey intake" or anything faggy like that. It's cheap enough that I pick up a tub every now and again. Nothing more.

[gh15]

I went to a seminar about 20 years ago as a Kid and a pro was giving a talk on supplements. At the end I approached the Pro and said do I really need all this shit to do well? He whispered in my ear and said "no just eat normal food kid its all bullshit". I really have believed this and didnt think that any Pro's really took this stuff until one stayed at my house about a couple of years ago. I know that people like shaun ray etc never used protein powder precontest in th 90's and said they were a no no when trying to get in shape so I was astonished when I saw this Pro mixing powders with his oats right up until the day of the comp! When I questioned him about it he would laugh and say " Ah your one of those are you! oh dear man! LOOK AT ME AND LOOK AT YOU? NOW WHO IS RIGHT? " Me a natural at the time standing 5 8 180LBS at 10% b/f and him at 5 5 202 at 3-4 % ! I couldn't really argue and it stuck in my mind that prehaps the protein powder really doesn't stop you getting ripped to 3-4% its just about the drugs and the calorie deficency!

this doesnt pass in thundedome friend,, this is selling point lol you going to be raped here for this,, remember they al know about fellas who come here to promote protien etc danta and sons and othr filts,, it doesnt pass the thunderdome,, so no mater how much you say this and that...evryone here and soon anywhere else will knwo the truth

gh15 approved

[gh15]

Useless is a strong word. I place it relatively lower on the valuable protein sources scale.

I used to have a dozen scoops a day and then tried none for a few months. Now I'm just taking a scoop in my protein shakes (egg whites being the main protein source). Protein powders taste pretty good nowadays and they offer a bit more than just protein now. I make a tub last a few months and would never stress over running out or needing to "up the whey intake" or anything faggy like that. It's cheap enough that I pick up a tub every now and again. Nothing more.

40 dolaros = 2 vial of testosterona propioneta ...that = a good 30 days on steroids...

30 days on steroids? or 30 days on protien powder? lol


some kidos here could save up to 3000-4000 dolaros a year! on this dumb protien balonie,, thats a good 20-30 kits of hgh !!  2000-3000 UNITS OF HGH!

gh15 approved

[g101]

personally a long time ago even before reading gh15

I used to use a lot of protein and i'm talking at least 4 scoops per day then I suddently dropped it completely

what did I notice ?

I did not feel sluggish anymore, water weight dropped, weight lighter and not heavy/bloated and I looked a lot better etc. all positive things

try it for yourselves guys..