You are wrong if you say protein powder is garbage.

[gh15]

got  beter ,, lee hainey...arnold...but more importent is to not admire anyone ,, you build your own body ,, it will never resemble anyone else,, no mater how many compariusons your body is YOUR body and it can be built to the best of your ability

gh15 approved

[flinstones1]

How bout Dorian?  Name a white dude, shit any dude with a better back?

I like Dorian, I like Mezner.  Reason I never follow two guys in particular that are popular on this board "Nasser"..and the infamous "Craig Titus" Reason  is Dante back in the day when I was 16 reading about the sport, claimed Nasser and Craig were all drugs in cycle for pennies... so I thought they were "fake" and not very strong and when your a kid you want your idol to BE strong, not just look the part. Of course that was wrong as I later found out Craig benched 5 plates a side and Nasser was even stronger but just didn't train heavy as he could cause he didn't have to and craig tore a pec.

 . I was always big fan of  Mike Francois and Frank Mcgrath. Gh15 ruined it for me when he made post about "the canadian fella" (frank)...then I realized I should not look up to a  drug addict like him, he's no better than you or me just severe abuser for long period of time.  Arnold....at one time yes

[apply85]

he lies way too much, that's another motherucking problem

[flinstones1]

he lies way too much, that's another motherucking problem

lolz where the fuck do you come from?

[lyquid]

useless? try having more shakes and less solid food and tell me you are getting worse results. If you do, you are a filth liar

mot to say ur wromg. Eberyome is differarmt but.

I habmt used shit like that for yrs I worked where I got powders for wholesale. Amd I saw romie colemam do sic scoops symtha sic . So I had less food amd that shake three to four times a day sic scoops each. Amomg other protiem powders I had layimg aroumd I lost weight... Om a bulk while it shud of beem more calories didmt make semse. Felt I looked like shit was so horrible at gym always deflated. Realized less food I had more I looked like shit. Switched to whole food mo supps all real fod amd gaimed better tham eber my emtire life.

gallom of milk a day is my protiem shakes that's about it. Fuckimg hate protiem powders mow. Relied om em for yrs amd always did shit. Omly gaim om whole food. This is my body tho so who kmows. Just a thimg I tried mot mamy people cam say they dowmed a sic scoop protiem shake at omce like rommie colemam lol

[SamsonD]

After my chest/bi workout last night I had 16oz chocolate milk and a can of pinneaple chunks.  Ate a meal a while later.  Def. did feel better than having a shake.

[dustin]

mot to say ur wromg. Eberyome is differarmt but.

I habmt used shit like that for yrs I worked where I got powders for wholesale. Amd I saw romie colemam do sic scoops symtha sic . So I had less food amd that shake three to four times a day sic scoops each. Amomg other protiem powders I had layimg aroumd I lost weight... Om a bulk while it shud of beem more calories didmt make semse. Felt I looked like shit was so horrible at gym always deflated. Realized less food I had more I looked like shit. Switched to whole food mo supps all real fod amd gaimed better tham eber my emtire life.

gallom of milk a day is my protiem shakes that's about it. Fuckimg hate protiem powders mow. Relied om em for yrs amd always did shit. Omly gaim om whole food. This is my body tho so who kmows. Just a thimg I tried mot mamy people cam say they dowmed a sic scoop protiem shake at omce like rommie colemam lol

Get a new phone on Craigslist ya welfare bum.

[gh15]

Get a new phone on Craigslist ya welfare bum.

lol

[The Abdominal Snoman]

16 oz of egg whites would be close to $4.00 I'm guessing. A can of pineapple is close to $1.00...add a banana, another 30-40 cents.

That is a $5 + protein shake.

Whey protein shake with the same extra ingredients would be half that easily. Not saying the egg white protein is not superior, but I don't think most could afford to do it day in and day out...especially when adding hormones into the equation.

Market Basket(on east coast) has their brand of 16oz ones for just under $2.(32oz.for about $4) So what I do is get 2 servings out of the small one. 16oz carton is 48 grams of protein. So I get 24 grams and then what ever I add to it to take it over 30+ grams a serving. Market basket brand small pineapple is 2 for a buck.The dole stuff is double the price but its the same shit.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

after reading this post im sold on the egg whites.... gh15 is right.... the water retention and the expense its just not worth it, im dumping my protein right after this las tub.

thks gh15 for speaking the truth

Send your tub of protein regardless of brand to Palumbo with a note that says "FUCK OFF- We're on to you"

[Exploding]

after reading this post im sold on the egg whites.... gh15 is right.... the water retention and the expense its just not worth it, im dumping my protein right after this las tub.

thks gh15 for speaking the truth

I know I have said this in posts before, I have been lifting for 34 years and I have tried almost everything. I spent thousands of dollars on protein powders and such with really nothing to show for it. After I stopped competing, I stopped all supplements. I looked just as good as always. I pretty much ate whatever I wanted and my blood tests were far better than when I was on all of the powders. It is my understanding that Whey is the easiest and cheapest to produce with the largest markup. In other words, Whey manufacturers are making a killing. Egg and soy have been medically tested to show positive benefits. That being said, I don't take whey and I'm never bloated or running to the bathroom. But, if someone finds something that works for them, stick to it.

[The Grim Lifter]

useless? try having more shakes and less solid food and tell me you are getting worse results. If you do, you are a filth liar

You just don't need that much protein. That's why you won't get worse results. Even gh15 has said offseason his protein was like 100 grams a day.

[pillowtalk]

PROTEIN IS PROTEIN BUT YOU NEVER REALLY KNOW WHAT'S INSIDE THAT PROTEIN POWDER. THAT'S THE TRUTH.

LIQUID EGG WHITES INSTEAD OF PROTEIN POWDER AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S INSIDE OF THOSE EGG WHITES.

What about if you buy cartons of Egg Whites  

I get my WPC80 from my factory in 20kg bags & make my own shakes, so I agree that the mark-up is insane on these products.
But if people are buying it = FUCK THEM!!

I see the supplement industry here in the embryonic stages, & there is a shed load of money to be made from WPC80put into tubs.
You would be an idiot to turn away from the profit just because the people who train deserve better, fuck that.
If they are buying it, sell it to them.

Although, I admit that I take less WPC80 & more chicken breast/whole Eggs these days. WPC80 PWO is still a must though.

If you were spending $56 on a tub of this V V V V I would sell you it........
Stick some WPC80/MPI/albumen/flavours in & call it DOUBLE CHOCOLATE.& you are good to go to the bank.

PT

[Oly15]

What about if you buy cartons of Egg Whites  

I get my WPC80 from my factory in 20kg bags & make my own shakes, so I agree that the mark-up is insane on these products.
But if people are buying it = FUCK THEM!!

I see the supplement industry here in the embryonic stages, & there is a shed load of money to be made from WPC80put into tubs.
You would be an idiot to turn away from the profit just because the people who train deserve better, fuck that.
If they are buying it, sell it to them.

Although, I admit that I take less WPC80 & more chicken breast/whole Eggs these days. WPC80 PWO is still a must though.

If you were spending $56 on a tub of this V V V V I would sell you it........
Stick some WPC80/MPI/albumen/flavours in & call it DOUBLE CHOCOLATE.& you are good to go to the bank.

PT

What is this WPC80? How much for 20 kg? And do you make it yourself, you said "my factory"..

[closeline]

So 400-480g of protein a day.. I really suggest you read up on "Deamination". I also suggest you read up on how the human body is composed.. I will give you a clue, 70% of it is water and in a healthy muscle roughly 20-22% of it is actual muscle protein which is made up of protein from amino acids.
So if all of the 480g of protein you consumed was fully digested and was soley used to build muscle in a day you would gain around 2.4kg (5.28lb) of muscle mass a day..we know this not to be the case, so you need to ask the question is all that protein being digested for a start and also how much is really needed to grow and maintain cells you already got..
Oh also look how much energy comes from 1g protein when it is used for energy (it is roughly the same as carbs - 4kcal)

thats theorie

simple practical
numbers


i need do go down with carbs if dieting to 150-200 gramms for a few days (thats 600-800 calories from carbs)
but i need at least 2500 calories on those days to loose no muscle
so i need 1600-1900 calories from protein, what makes the protein 400-450 at least , not equaly spread ed over al meals, because no carb meals are higher in protein and vice versa
(fat is always minimized in my diet)


did you never dieted for contest? or even eat 500 gramms of steak whats easily over 100gramm of protein in one meal?

[notsureifsrs]

thats theorie

simple practical
numbers


i need do go down with carbs if dieting to 150-200 gramms for a few days (thats 600-800 calories from carbs)
but i need at least 2500 calories on those days to loose no muscle
so i need 1600-1900 calories from protein, what makes the protein 400-450 at least , not equaly spread ed over al meals, because no carb meals are higher in protein and vice versa
(fat is always minimized in my diet)


did you never dieted for contest? or even eat 500 gramms of steak whats easily over 100gramm of protein in one meal?

LAMO
oh and don't forget to eat every 2 hours and take your BCAA between meals !

[pillowtalk]

What is this WPC80? How much for 20 kg? And do you make it yourself, you said "my factory"..

Hi Alice  

Like you have no idea what WPC80 is, a shameless attempt at itel mining  
Up your game fatty.
As for cost I am getting in 1.5 tonnes at at time, use a calculator.
It's a lot less that you are paying for sure.
  
PT

[closeline]

WHY

WOULD

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BUY

ANY

KIND

OF

PROTIEN

ASIDE

FROM

EGG WHITES IN WALMART?



drinkable wggwhites 3-4 dolaros for 32 oz,, thats all needd,, yes it cost but it is eggwhites ,, pasturized ,, this go straight to good use ,, it is absorbed almost fuly 80% is absored ,, it is best of the best builder of champions and builder of muscle,,

what is this balonie with all of this garbage powder made in beverly for all the other scam companys lol its all poweder with bunch of preservative chemicals ,, take hormones take eggwhites ,,,this is ALL you need

gh15 approved

and don t you think it can giff you a bloated midsection if  - like you self stated - it makes you shit and fart holes in your pants if you first use it

 

[closeline]

you use all your money on garbage!,, insted of using it to buy few kit hgh that wil truly get you lean growth ,, insted of buying good anadrol to put in your body when gh get you very lean and 3 dimetnional so it all can thicken up ...you buy stupid garbage scam who knows what inside down grade powders of protiens? what did you lose your fuckin mind? your parents has tree of money in back yard? i dont get it ,, are you that dumb?

gh15 approved

seems to be very intellient to up the dose of every drug in the arsenal if anybody has a shortcomming either in nutrition or training

good advice

thank god that kigs are cheap and AAS even cheaper today

[closeline]

dorian yates secret?


HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE,,

ANADROLA! ! !

TRENBOLONA ACATATO

SOME TESTOSTERONA ... CYCLING IN AND OUT...

ANABOLICS SUCH AS NANDROLONA AND EQ  OFFSEASON AND PREP  DEPENDING ON OVER ALL GOAL

INSULINA


this is dorian yates secret friends...it wasnt some nutrition metod or training metod,, he was a very average fella that went on hormoen the right time and responded to them well ,, and then learned them and how to get the most  out of them ,, he knew you can not be on mega dose testosteroaan and look like competetive bodybuild of highest kind...so what he did? he put in anadrola and reduced testosterona drasticaly as in cycle testosterona ,,
it wassnt anything to do with training or eating specific type of corns lol

gh15 approved

dorian = average fella =hahahah

i thought you don t like rec drugs ?

[wes]

Back in the day in our old gym,Jeff King was the first person I ever saw who used eggwhites, but he bought his in bulk from a bakery supply company........they were in powder form and he just mixed them with water.

I`m gonna` look around in my area to see if I can get them in bulk like that.

[Oly15]

Hi Alice  

Like you have no idea what WPC80 is, a shameless attempt at itel mining  
Up your game fatty.
As for cost I am getting in 1.5 tonnes at at time, use a calculator.
It's a lot less that you are paying for sure.
  
PT

Don't know who Alice is but that was a genuine question. Forget it though.

[closeline]

LAMO
oh and don't forget to eat every 2 hours and take your BCAA between meals !

whey isolate has a lot of bcaa, you don t need extra bcaa  

3hours is better than 2, every 2 is to short

[WillGrant]

Don't know who Alice is but that was a genuine question. Forget it though.

This is Alice - Alice

[closeline]

Back in the day in our old gym,Jeff King was the first person I ever saw who used eggwhites, but he bought his in bulk from a bakery supply company........they were in powder form and he just mixed them with water.

I`m gonna` look around in my area to see if I can get them in bulk like that.

actually that s egg protein POWDER

i know many competitors using eg protein powder because they fear water retention from lactose (myth LOL)