You are wrong if you say protein powder is garbage.

[OptimusPrime1980]

I dont know if it is real or fake, but why do you have trouble believing he would drink those shakes? Pros drink shakes too, believe it or not.

You know why? Because whey protein does EXACTLY the same thing to your body that solid protein does. How the hell does your body know whether you are drinking protein or eating it??? It doesn't give a shit how and what you consume, as long as it's protein

seems pretty believeable to me...
simple and easy to remember for ronnie lolol!
but i think this is just diet for the final 4 weeks.... you know to get to 4%
and your right about the protein... it's just 99% of the products on the market contain so much crap, and that is what ruins it...
what i do not believe is that Chad was a top guru, and this is what you get??? any body could make this diet lolol....
guru's =  crap.....  

[OptimusPrime1980]

Question for you guys on insulin:

You don't use shakes immediately post-workout or intraworkout to get carbs?

Would be pretty hard IMO to get them without shakes...

who says you need carbs with insulin? lolol...
totally depends on what kind of insulin you are using.... humalog yes you need some carbs.... not the recommended 10 grams per iu btw..... depends on the individual how much...
with lantus you will be fine without carbs... just eat protein.... lantus doesn't peak.....
i have been on low carbs and high fats .... and used 70 iu's of lantus in the morning... with hgh of course...
did not die, did not pass out..... got bigger and smooth, not fat but smooth, and stomach grew.... insulin = crap....

[Morsprincipium]

who says you need carbs with insulin? lolol...
totally depends on what kind of insulin you are using.... humalog yes you need some carbs.... not the recommended 10 grams per iu btw..... depends on the individual how much...
with lantus you will be fine without carbs... just eat protein.... lantus doesn't peak.....
i have been on low carbs and high fats .... and used 70 iu's of lantus in the morning... with hgh of course...
did not die, did not pass out..... got bigger and smooth, not fat but smooth, and stomach grew.... insulin = crap....

Are you trolling me?

I've been on insulin for years, I know what it does.  Insulin is definitely not crap...the recommend 10g of carbs/IU is bullshit, though, only will get you fat.  Carbs are necessary though...i've gone hypo from not having carbs in a certain time frame (I use log)

[MrBigandCut]

you do not need to tell me what bodybuilders need my friend...
and YOU need to learn how to read.. where did i mention KETO?
i even metioned complex carbs should be eaten.... how is that KETO???
keto = crap.....  
and i was talking about health... not bodybuilding...
talking about reinventing the wheel.... lol.. how that???
if you know me a little and read my posts you know i do not even diet... lol!
eat what i want , i just keep it healthy...
but when i need to get in topshape... i do eat a high fat diet.... that is what gets me in shape..
we are not all the same you know??
i agree you can not bodybuild without carbs.... but not everybody needs the same amount... i can go days without carbs and feel and look fine.
a lot of guys eat waaaaay to much carbs and to little healthy fats.
also to little sat fats.. as they are very important as well!
furthermore i am not ONE OF THOSE... i am my own self made man... i tried every diet and no what works for me...have field experience.... not stupid theoretic stuff that looks good on paper... but doen't work!
also helped a lot of guys get in shape...
some on many carbs some on low carbs... but always the fats were there...
this whole fat scare thing is silly!

and one more thing.... it's the drugs that do 90% of the work.... diet only assist in the process....
with the right drugs ALL diets work.... just one bodybuild needs less carbs other needs more.... whatever...
fats should always be there!!! they are essential you know.... ever heard of essential carbs?
fats + protein builds the muscle and carbs are the fuel.... and not every car need the same amount of fuel...
all 3 should be there....
but cut out fats to much and you ruin the process....

All I can say is whilst dieting I look my absolute best when my fats are minimal and carbs and protein are both high

[climber]

Read some stuff about eggs further back..

I eat between 10-30 whole eggs per day.

Best way is to scramble them using a microwave. Put 6 eggs in a bowl and stir them up with a fork then cook them on high for 2 minutes. Immediately scramble them up with a fork and cook for a further 30s - 1m if needed.


No need for protein powders.

[OptimusPrime1980]

minimal...
well bad fats yes.. i agree with you...
but some good healthy fats... never saw one guy get fat off of that...
actually sped up the fatburning process....
but we ARE all different...
health wise you need fats, and many bodybuilder takes way to little...
but you called me a keto-ist .. lol!!! which i am not.... keto sucks... agree with you... flat and feel misarable....

[monstermunch]

GH15 is never wrong, refrain from making such assertions or you may find yourself in a spot of bother mister.

[OptimusPrime1980]

Are you trolling me?

I've been on insulin for years, I know what it does.  Insulin is definitely not crap...the recommend 10g of carbs/IU is bullshit, though, only will get you fat.  Carbs are necessary though...i've gone hypo from not having carbs in a certain time frame (I use log)

read my post.... i said depends on what type of insulin you use... people have a hard time reading here...
with humalog yes you need some carbs... as it peaks hard!! and fast...
lantus can be used wit a low carb diet, no problem... lantus does not peak.....
and even with humalog... if you eat enough protein you will not go hypo... gluconeogenesis (typed it correctly?? lol!) but why someone would do that , beats me....
but the need for carbs is greatly exaggerated...
did you ever see a pro measuring his food, to make sure that he got in the 10g of carbs per iu? lol.... no!
i remember a dutch pro... shooting humalog and hgh before every meal.... do you think these were clean meals?? no! chinese food, pizza , but a lot of chinese food... he loved it...
and the dose was high 30/40 iu of humalog... hgh kept him from getting fat... slin pushed it all into the muscles...
he is sick nowadays..... insulin ruins health.... really....not the steroids and hgh... it's insulin that gets bodybuilders sick... and not 10 iu's a dose.. lol.... 30/40... every meal...

[closeline]

I dont know if it is real or fake, but why do you have trouble believing he would drink those shakes? Pros drink shakes too, believe it or not.

You know why? Because whey protein does EXACTLY the same thing to your body that solid protein does. How the hell does your body know whether you are drinking protein or eating it??? It doesn't give a shit how and what you consume, as long as it's protein

sorry bro, but this was my opinion stated in all my earlier posts 

pros use whey isolate, i use whey isolate, just make sure its 100% CMF whey without any additives such as minerals flavors sweeteners vitamines ...

whey protein shake is one of he best at certain times the best protein source in bodybuilders arsenal

gh 15 was the guy that wrote that you get a irreversible estrogen bloat from protein powders LOL

this is what is said is wrong and gh couldn t back up his balonie claim

[notsureifsrs]

read my post.... i said depends on what type of insulin you use... people have a hard time reading here...
with humalog yes you need some carbs... as it peaks hard!! and fast...
lantus can be used wit a low carb diet, no problem... lantus does not peak.....
and even with humalog... if you eat enough protein you will not go hypo... gluconeogenesis (typed it correctly?? lol!) but why someone would do that , beats me....
but the need for carbs is greatly exaggerated...
did you ever see a pro measuring his food, to make sure that he got in the 10g of carbs per iu? lol.... no!
i remember a dutch pro... shooting humalog and hgh before every meal.... do you think these were clean meals?? no! chinese food, pizza , but a lot of chinese food... he loved it...
and the dose was high 30/40 iu of humalog... hgh kept him from getting fat... slin pushed it all into the muscles...
he is sick nowadays..... insulin ruins health.... really....not the steroids and hgh... it's insulin that gets bodybuilders sick... and not 10 iu's a dose.. lol.... 30/40... every meal...

lol they all like pizza and Chinese it's funny because i never seen a pro with heavy sweet tooth pound on b&j and such 

[OptimusPrime1980]

lol they all like pizza and Chinese it's funny because i never seen a pro with heavy sweet tooth pound on b&j and such 

yess correct! lol....
because pizza and chinese food... gets them huge... it's rich food...
fat also... but the hgh burns the fat and when on 30 iu's a day you need that fat lol!!!
and with the slin it all goes into the muscles....
healthy..? no.....slin is what makes pro's sick.... not the hgh and roids...

[MrBigandCut]

sorry bro, but this was my opinion stated in all my earlier posts 

pros use whey isolate, i use whey isolate, just make sure its 100% CMF whey without any additives such as minerals flavors sweeteners vitamines ...

whey protein shake is one of he best at certain times the best protein source in bodybuilders arsenal

gh 15 was the guy that wrote that you get a irreversible estrogen bloat from protein powders LOL

this is what is said is wrong and gh couldn t back up his balonie claim

I agree with you bro, I believe in what Gh15 has to say about hormones & most of his diet advise but with regard Protein powders I also think he is wrong in that you can still get 3-4% bodyfat whilst using them.

I get what he says that you don't need to spend money on any supplements, and I understand that for people who have a limited budget just spend his money wisely on drugs and hgh  but with powders I don't see them being any more estrogenic than the icecream he recommends. After all icecream is processed with generally more sugar, milk(latose), and fat than most protein powders? Surely icrecream is more estrongenic but with tren & gh in the blood you get away with it?  

[gh15]

you go ahead and believ it lol enjoy protien powders lol none of us use this ,, NONE OF US,, none of my close circle back in day ,, what we do use is LOTS AND LTOS of anadrola when we are lean and shredded to blow up tight and full and push everything out ,,

i told you what we use ,, our protien powders are the hgh and androla lol we fuckin eat fish chiekn beef rice pizza icecream repeat lol

gh15 approved

[closeline]

you go ahead and believ it lol enjoy protien powders lol none of us use this ,, NONE OF US,, none of my close circle back in day ,, what we do use is LOTS AND LTOS of anadrola when we are lean and shredded to blow up tight and full and push everything out ,,

i told you what we use ,, our protien powders are the hgh and androla lol we fuckin eat fish chiekn beef rice pizza icecream repeat lol

gh15 approved

i remember that in your days there weren t many cmf whey isolates out there

so you may be right 

[purenaturalstrength]

I dont know if it is real or fake, but why do you have trouble believing he would drink those shakes? Pros drink shakes too, believe it or not.

You know why? Because whey protein does EXACTLY the same thing to your body that solid protein does. How the hell does your body know whether you are drinking protein or eating it??? It doesn't give a shit how and what you consume, as long as it's protein

problem is that you have no way of knowing what is really in those supplements

can't trust this shit anymore

i've not consumed a single protein shake since i read gh15's theory on it

better safe than sorry

[FAST LANE]

problem is that you have no way of knowing what is really in those supplements

can't trust this shit anymore

i've not consumed a single protein shake since i read gh15's theory on it

better safe than sorry

x2.. Protein powders are man made and not meant for the human body..... eggwhites all day everyday over whey!!! 

[purenaturalstrength]

x2.. Protein powders are man made and not meant for the human body..... eggwhites all day everyday over whey!!! 

i'm still confused, must i also avoid milk and dairy?

did he not not say milk and dairy permanently thicken the skin?


sucks because i like to drink milk

[apply85]

the only thing gh15 is wrong about

music
the pyramids
who built the pyramids
why they built the pyramids
aliens
monkeys
the eighties
everything except bodybuilding
that mccain will win presidential elections
women
what to do with women
how to think about women
that flintstones should be using insulin without gh
that retards are angels
things that do not have to do with bodybuilding
the way he mows his lawn

[3Dkiller]

Protein powders 100% Aspertame, asculfame, sucralose  its just garbage.

[gh15]

the only thing gh15 is wrong about

music
the pyramids
who built the pyramids
why they built the pyramids
aliens
monkeys
the eighties
everything except bodybuilding
that mccain will win presidential elections
women
what to do with women
how to think about women
that flintstones should be using insulin without gh
that retards are angels
things that do not have to do with bodybuilding
the way he mows his lawn

do you fuck lots of girls? i have ...i knwo woman like my back hand ,,  with time you wil see everything i say im rigth about ,, but! for that age 50 must hit ,,

gh15 approved

[apply85]

do you fuck lots of girls? i have ...i knwo woman like my back hand ,,  with time you wil see everything i say im rigth about ,, but! for that age 50 must hit ,,

gh15 approved

..really now?

i dont want to argue with you

you win you win

[Shockwave]

do you fuck lots of girls? i have ...i knwo woman like my back hand ,,  with time you wil see everything i say im rigth about ,, but! for that age 50 must hit ,,

gh15 approved

He's young. Not a lot of life experience but speaks on everything.
The way he talks to Booty tells me that he is fairly inexperienced when it comes to women (but he thinks he is).
Kids got confidence, gotta give him that, just not a lot of experience yet.

[sapp66]

the only thing gh15 is wrong about

music
the pyramids
who built the pyramids
why they built the pyramids
aliens
monkeys
the eighties
everything except bodybuilding
that mccain will win presidential elections
women
what to do with women
how to think about women
that flintstones should be using insulin without gh
that retards are angels
things that do not have to do with bodybuilding
the way he mows his lawn

why does everyone always try and come down on gh15 about pyramids and aliens..hasnt anyone here ever watch the show Ancient Aliens? oh wait its on the history channel maybe simple minded people dont take the time to actually watch that channel...its not like gh15 is coming out of nowhere with these ideas.. they have been around very long its just they are now being introduced slowly with shows like this so the simpletons can grasp the concept alittle at a time and hopefully understand them...for some people to be that naive to think of all the universes and galaxys that we are the only ones here or that these perfect structures were built by ancient egyptians with ropes, pulleys and stone......LOL!!! cmon fellas open ur mind alittle

[apply85]

why does everyone always try and come down on gh15 about pyramids and aliens..hasnt anyone here ever watch the show Ancient Aliens? oh wait its on the history channel maybe simple minded people dont take the time to actually watch that channel...its not like gh15 is coming out of nowhere with these ideas.. they have been around very long its just they are now being introduced slowly with shows like this so the simpletons can grasp the concept alittle at a time and hopefully understand them...for some people to be that naive to think of all the universes and galaxys that we are the only ones here or that these perfect structures were built by ancient egyptians with ropes, pulleys and stone......LOL!!! cmon fellas open ur mind alittle

thats a knee slapper

[sapp66]

thats a knee slapper

glad ur slapping those knees