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« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2012, 09:52:00 PM » |
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deca is the one steroid that i highly recommend using more test than the dose of deca while you are on that cycle. out of all the steroids, deca is the only one that kills my libido. actually, if i don't run test at an equal or higher dose, i can't get hard at all basically.
@ 500 mg deca and 500 mg test, i have trouble getting hard and it is actually impossible to have an orgasm
@500 mg deca and 750 mg test, the problem gets better
but it isn't until
@500mg deca and 1000 mg test that the problem is actually fixed and i can really fuck again
this is a huge problem for me, because I hate what a gram of test does to my body. actually, 500 mg deca and 1000 mg test is basically a recipe to look like a water balloon for me personally.
so for these reasons, i will never, ever run deca again. i just got off of a deca-sust-drol cycle and switched over to tren-test-masteron, and i can't emphasis how much better i feel now that i am off that watery cycle and on the holy grail.
a lot of folks will argue that diet plays a major part in bloat on a deca cycle, but i will disagree.
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« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2012, 10:32:03 PM » |
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Bro none of us come off, this is the Thunderdome
that's funny ! |
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« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2012, 10:36:33 PM » |
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x3 Nobody comes "off" in the Thunderdome!! |
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« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2012, 10:45:16 PM » |
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d-bol can be a substitute for test. d-bol and deca is a good cycle, but i think what he initially went with, 250mg test and 400mg deca a week is a good cycle too.
ive been thinkin of running dbol/deca cycle(cuz i have both on hand anyway) what should the deca dosage per week be at? |
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« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2012, 10:47:34 PM » |
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so does proviron help with sex drive when you take deca?
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« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2012, 11:20:31 PM » |
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so does proviron help with sex drive when you take deca?
Yes it can help, I used to use 50mg per day and found that it have great libido boost, some 100mg per day is good but if 50mg per day does the job then why use more |
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« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2012, 01:27:39 AM » |
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Deca is the most powerful anabolic for me personally.
It gives me strength and mass better than any other AAS.
I run it with masteron at about 300mg per week and
libido is strong.
I get less sides when there is no test in there. For
some reason the Deca and test combo makes me more gyno
prone even when using an AI and prami.
I just started a cycle of Norma deca, I am very excited to have
human grade. I was originally planning on running 300mg per
week, but I really want to try to grow some serious mass this winter
and bump the dose to 6-700mg.
Ran with D-bol it is by far the best mass stack I could run. I
have the same gyno issues that I have with test though.
I might just run it anyway and get the damn surgery later on.
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« Reply #57 on: January 21, 2012, 10:41:29 AM » |
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have you tried using letrozole? it should work for any gyno except for prolactin gyno.
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« Reply #58 on: January 21, 2012, 11:28:10 AM » |
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x2 on the proviron- helps a LOT!
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« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2012, 12:27:55 PM » |
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have you tried using letrozole? it should work for any gyno except for prolactin gyno.
yep, I know it is working because I get the sides associated with crushed estrogen levels, but my gyno is still aggravated. I am not sure why. I have been told by doctors that in some individuals, all it takes is hormones fluctuations to cause a flare up, regardless of estrogen, prolactin, and progesterone. I could be somewhat of a gyno anomaly. Certain medications that have nothing to do with hormones can cause gyno in some cases, so apparently there are ways a person can get gyno even with all their bases covered as far as hormone control. |
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« Reply #60 on: January 21, 2012, 12:29:17 PM » |
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you had your prolactin levels checked? they were in range when you had the gyno flare up? only gyno that letro doesn't crush is prolactin, and if you take nolva when you have prolactin gyno it will cause your gyno to flare up like crazy.
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« Reply #61 on: January 21, 2012, 12:34:22 PM » |
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you had your prolactin levels checked? they were in range when you had the gyno flare up? only gyno that letro doesn't crush is prolactin, and if you take nolva when you have prolactin gyno it will cause your gyno to flare up like crazy.
what a prolactin gyno looks like..? |
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aesthetics
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« Reply #62 on: January 21, 2012, 12:36:05 PM » |
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well, looks the same as any other gyno but if you squeeze your nipples fluid will come out. that's an unmistakable sign for high prolactin levels, which may be the sole cause of gyno or contributing to it.
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« Reply #63 on: January 21, 2012, 12:39:02 PM » |
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well, looks the same as any other gyno but if you squeeze your nipples fluid will come out. that's an unmistakable sign for high prolactin levels, which may be the sole cause of gyno or contributing to it.
taking 100mg ed of tren for 3 weeks, just squeezed a nipple to check it out lol, a mini drop got out, really not much, should i worry about it? |
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« Reply #64 on: January 21, 2012, 01:49:33 PM » |
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taking 100mg ed of tren for 3 weeks, just squeezed a nipple to check it out lol, a mini drop got out, really not much, should i worry about it?
I wouldn't worry just handle it. I know ai and seems are not popular at get big but I personally do run nolvadex and aromodex at low doses whole doing tren above 500 mg weekly and I still have issues. Tren is the only steroid that does this to me |
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« Reply #65 on: January 21, 2012, 01:54:51 PM » |
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gonna lower the dose a bit  |
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« Reply #66 on: January 21, 2012, 02:07:07 PM » |
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taking 100mg ed of tren for 3 weeks, just squeezed a nipple to check it out lol, a mini drop got out, really not much, should i worry about it?
cabergoline, 0.25mg twice a week, E3D. if that doesn't work up the dosage, but the sides can be pretty nasty from dopamine agonists, however, i find they are much worse with prami. you can also try mucuna pruriens extract, as the extract comes from a bean that increases dopamine levels, although it is weaker than the RX drugs, it doesn't come with any sides except increased libido. hgh can increase prolactin levels, as well as hgh itself can bind to the prolactin receptor. so that may be why, i don't know what your cycle is. i have to run a dopamine agonist when i run tren + hgh, otherwise sides get too bad, and libido completely tanks to 0. |
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« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2012, 02:16:56 PM » |
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cabergoline, 0.25mg twice a week, E3D. if that doesn't work up the dosage, but the sides can be pretty nasty from dopamine agonists, however, i find they are much worse with prami. you can also try mucuna pruriens extract, as the extract comes from a bean that increases dopamine levels, although it is weaker than the RX drugs, it doesn't come with any sides except increased libido.
hgh can increase prolactin levels, as well as hgh itself can bind to the prolactin receptor. so that may be why, i don't know what your cycle is.
i have to run a dopamine agonist when i run tren + hgh, otherwise sides get too bad, and libido completely tanks to 0.
will start by tappering off to 75mg ed, see how that goes, t4i, not running hgh btw |
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« Reply #68 on: January 21, 2012, 03:43:35 PM » |
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anyone here ever have luck in using b6 to lower prolactin sides?
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« Reply #69 on: January 21, 2012, 05:47:35 PM » |
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^^ Was wondering this too
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« Reply #70 on: January 21, 2012, 06:29:33 PM » |
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you had your prolactin levels checked? they were in range when you had the gyno flare up? only gyno that letro doesn't crush is prolactin, and if you take nolva when you have prolactin gyno it will cause your gyno to flare up like crazy.
everything was in range, I used pramipexole for prolactin. |
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