what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day

[newmom]

One of the major problems of this generation is a lack of work ethic and blaming everyone for their lack of wealth. Do you think 30 years ago it was easy to earn a living if you were young?  Yes, the economy is bad but saying whoa is me and everyone owes me will get you no where.

 I don't know any successful person that didn't pay their dues in life and yes start at the bottom. There are so many examples. One guy I know is a construction worker that worked many 16 hour plus days and weekends/holidays. He started his own very tiny construction company.  Now at 47 he bids and gets 50 million dollar plus jobs and employs 100's of people building bridges and roads.

I know I will get a lot fu's on this but the truth hurts. Being a slacker is one of the major problems with this generation.
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I agree...

[T-rex]

i think this is supposedly the first generation where they will be worse off then their parents. usually all future generations up to this point have been better off, but nope! we're regressing into a second dark age, and there's nothing we can do about it. like being a passenger in a slow moving car crash.

Luckily I work for the Federal gov't. Fucking hate my job but for the first time ever I'm totally stuck. The private sector is shit right now for good jobs. I hate not having options and having to stay at the same place for a long time but what the hell do you do? I guess I should be lucky I have a secure job. But I hate that mentality: 'be lucky you have your govt drone worker bee job' For the sake of our country/children I hope we can go back to the way it was, and not just a country of Wal-Mart level jobs. But I think you're right aesthetics, it's already in motion and all we can do is watch it burn.

[MikMaq]

One of the major problems of this generation is a lack of work ethic and blaming everyone for their lack of wealth. Do you think 30 years ago it was easy to earn a living if you were young?  Yes, the economy is bad but saying whoa is me and everyone owes me will get you no where.

 I don't know any successful person that didn't pay their dues in life and yes start at the bottom. There are so many examples. One guy I know is a construction worker that worked many 16 hour plus days and weekends/holidays. He started his own very tiny construction company.  Now at 47 he bids and gets 50 million dollar plus jobs and employs 100's of people building bridges and roads.

I know I will get a lot fu's on this but the truth hurts. Being a slacker is one of the major problems with this generation.

That's actually a load of bullshit. Todays generation works harder and is better educated on average than the generation before it. Your just trying to justify why were getting fucked.

Sure our attitude to work is alot less honest and far more cynical but that's simply a result of us being more aware of whats going on.

The past generation had a naive notion that working hard pays off and it's simply bullshit when you start crunching the numbers.

You can quote all the random success stories you want the reality is working hard isn't enough anymore.

[howardroark]

Post on getbig all day.

[oldtimer1]

Who's gonna give you 100k to open a sandwich shop without a college degree, genius?
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This genius is retired at 52 you dope living in a very nice house. I was making a point about the waste of money and not about how to get buisiness loans.  What does getting a loan for 100K for a business  having to do with a college degree you dope? By the way I did really well in college but it wasn't the reason for my success.

[King Shizzo]

Who's gonna give you 100k to open a sandwich shop without a college degree, genius?
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This genius is retired at 52 you dope living in a very nice house. I was making a point about the waste of money and not about how to get buisiness loans.  What does getting a loan for 100K for a business  having to do with a college degree you dope? By the way I did really well in college but it wasn't the reason for my success.

Brutal misquote.

[oldtimer1]

That's actually a load of bullshit. Todays generation works harder and is better educated on average than the generation before it. Your just trying to justify why were getting fucked.

Sure our attitude to work is alot less honest and far more cynical but that's simply a result of us being more aware of whats going on.

The past generation had a naive notion that working hard pays off and it's simply bullshit when you start crunching the numbers.

You can quote all the random success stories you want the reality is working hard isn't enough anymore.

Works harder than other generations?  You have to be kidding me?  Random success? Ya, it's all luck you slacker.

[sky02316]

Entry level jobs do exist. The trouble is most college graduates do not want those jobs because they want to start out in management making $80k.  God forbid someone with no experience and a bachelor’s degree in psychology or history should start out making $35-40k.  Here’s an example of exactly what I mean:
American Dream Is Elusive for New Generation
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/07/business/economy/07generation.html

The kid featured in this article has zero experience yet he is turning down a job offer... lucky for him mom, dad, and grandparents are willing to pay his bills for months/years while he waits for something better to come along.  

No most entry level jobs are around 20-30k. In a major city where your dollar won't go as far it could be closer to 35 or 40. The best ones are 50-70k and you need a master's or years of experience to even be competitive for an interview.

[apply85]

no one i know who studied finance is in finance now, but somehow whatever gig they went into they went straight to the top

[kh300]

Luckily I work for the Federal gov't. Fucking hate my job but for the first time ever I'm totally stuck. The private sector is shit right now for good jobs. I hate not having options and having to stay at the same place for a long time but what the hell do you do? I guess I should be lucky I have a secure job. But I hate that mentality: 'be lucky you have your govt drone worker bee job' For the sake of our country/children I hope we can go back to the way it was, and not just a country of Wal-Mart level jobs. But I think you're right aesthetics, it's already in motion and all we can do is watch it burn.

TSA? You should be glad you got a job with the federal government.

[hardgainerj]

Retail is just a big ponzi scheme, where he who hands the chinese profits fastest becomes king of the ring.

unless you work at neiman marcus then youre spot on

[MikMaq]

Works harder than other generations?  You have to be kidding me?  Random success? Ya, it's all luck you slacker.

Basic logic working hard does not equal wealth.

You have a shit understanding of logic.

All people that are rich work hard

Therefore working hard makes you rich.

Reality is most people that are rich statistically speaking got family money/connections/genetic gifts/or are just lucky freaks usually a combination of all of the above.

Part of the problem is my generation wants the cave man's dream, enough wealth to start a family. This is becoming more and more elusive as economists brag how through industrialization people are so happy they don't feel the need to over populate the planet.

[T-rex]

Another killer out there right now, cost of living is going up, pay aint going nowhere. When I leave the grocery store I'm like WTF? I buy mostly bare bones essentials. No filets/lobster/exotic shit. Just milk/eggs/basic shit and I look at the receipt in total disbelief.

[K-1]

One major key to life is RESEARCH and PLAN...don't care if you go Military, Trade School, College or whatever after HS...you need to have a LIVING and BREATHING LONG TERM PLAN so you can adapt to changes..don't just sign up for shit thinking things will work out just because you did what you THINK is ok because you were told this was the way to go by some commercial, some fool, a high paying job "title"....etc

I remember when everybody in the late 90's early 2000 jumped on the computer science program b/c of the "guaranteed $100,000" starting salary out of college bullshit. Don't be sold on shit like that (it's a $$$ generating scheme many fall for)..do some research on what is NEEDED for the next generation(s) and if it fits your M.O. and you like it go for it.  

Right now they got so many damn fools in technology field it's a crying shame. Zero background,straight out of college and don't know shit and too afraid to learn new sh*t because they have no passion. Just "the hot degree" to have. The industry is flooded with complete dumb asses now.

Don't get me wrong there are "some" sharp kids coming out, but they are usually the ones who get it and are willing to work for it.....most i've met, interviewed, hired and fired....complete idiots with no passion for the trade.

[kh300]

Reality is most people that are rich statistically speaking got family money/connections/genetic gifts/or are just lucky freaks usually a combination of all of the above.

Or black. I work for a fed agency and not 1 white male has been promoted in 3 years.

If your a black woman take a police test. You'll be Sargent and making 120k in about 3 years.

[BayGBM]

Another killer out there right now, cost of living is going up, pay aint going nowhere. When I leave the grocery store I'm like WTF? I buy mostly bare bones essentials. No filets/lobster/exotic shit. Just milk/eggs/basic shit and I look at the receipt in total disbelief.

Word.  I don’t do much shopping in my house; the few times I tag along or do the shopping myself I am totally shocked at how much groceries are.  And as you said it’s not because you’re buying luxury items like lobster.  Toilet tissue, a few boxes of cereal, some salmon, soap, eggs, veggies… you blink and the bill is pushing $100+ dollars.  What can you do?  You pay it… but I always leave the store thinking… OMG!  How do people manage if they make $30k, $40k, or $50k?

[rotaryfan]

One of the major problems of this generation is a lack of work ethic and blaming everyone for their lack of wealth. Do you think 30 years ago it was easy to earn a living if you were young?  Yes, the economy is bad but saying whoa is me and everyone owes me will get you no where.

 I don't know any successful person that didn't pay their dues in life and yes start at the bottom. There are so many examples. One guy I know is a construction worker that worked many 16 hour plus days and weekends/holidays. He started his own very tiny construction company.  Now at 47 he bids and gets 50 million dollar plus jobs and employs 100's of people building bridges and roads.

I know I will get a lot fu's on this but the truth hurts. Being a slacker is one of the major problems with this generation.

Speaking as someone of "this generation", I completely agree. Its pathetic how many people i have met in high school and university alike who have no work ethic and refuse to work more than 5 days a week, 6 hours a day. in order to get ahead you have to work for it, pay your dues within your company, and the list of people who aren't willing to do what it takes to excel is endless.

[T-rex]

I think I speak for alot of us on this but we lack the financial discipline of our parents/grandparents. My grandparents were from the depression era. They saved everything. Money/jars/cans/anything. It's like they were prepared to barter if necessary and actually I think they did. My mom especially inherited her parents ways. Almost everything they buy now is from yard sales. She coupons everything. And the funny thing is they don't really need to. But they have a shitload of money saved up. They laugh at us spending $200.00 on some Chinese made shoes, $100.00 jeans. I mean look at us. We're ready to kill for Jordan's and iphones. We're fucked. I'm starting to wake up a little bit. I'm wearing my chuck T's and the obscene amount of clothes I own till they fall apart who cares anymore if they're in style.

[MikMaq]

Speaking as someone of "this generation", I completely agree. Its pathetic how many people i have met in high school and university alike who have no work ethic and refuse to work more than 5 days a week, 6 hours a day. in order to get ahead you have to work for it, pay your dues within your company, and the list of people who aren't willing to do what it takes to excel is endless.

If everyone's getting ahead, what exactly is left behind

I think I speak for alot of us on this but we lack the financial discipline of our parents/grandparents. My grandparents were from the depression era. They saved everything. Money/jars/cans/anything. It's like they were prepared to barter if necessary and actually I think they did. My mom especially inherited her parents ways. Almost everything they buy now is from yard sales. She coupons everything. And the funny thing is they don't really need to. But they have a shitload of money saved up. They laugh at us spending $200.00 on some Chinese made shoes, $100.00 jeans. I mean look at us. We're ready to kill for Jordan's and iphones. We're fucked. I'm starting to wake up a little bit. I'm wearing my chuck T's and the obscene amount of clothes I own till they fall apart who cares anymore if they're in style.

Which is why they needed a global  war/holocaust to fix their depression, I hope the fuck we don't go through the same horror.

[Shockwave]

Word.  I don’t do much shopping in my house; the few times I tag along or do the shopping myself I am totally shocked at how much groceries are.  And as you said it’s not because you’re buying luxury items like lobster.  Toilet tissue, a few boxes of cereal, some salmon, soap, eggs, veggies… you blink and the bill is pushing $100+ dollars.  What can you do?  You pay it… but I always leave the store thinking… OMG!  How do people manage if they make $30k, $40k, or $50k?

x100 we struggle like crazy to pay for groceries while Im in school full time, and my wife is working 2 jobs, and we barely get by. I even had to apply for food stamps when I lost my weekend job just to try and make ends meet.
Were making it now but just barely. Cost of food just seems to keep getting higher and higher.

[aesthetics]

Post on getbig all day.

that's what i do and make money off dividends 

[kh300]

Word.  I don’t do much shopping in my house; the few times I tag along or do the shopping myself I am totally shocked at how much groceries are.  And as you said it’s not because you’re buying luxury items like lobster.  Toilet tissue, a few boxes of cereal, some salmon, soap, eggs, veggies… you blink and the bill is pushing $100+ dollars.  What can you do?  You pay it… but I always leave the store thinking… OMG!  How do people manage if they make $30k, $40k, or $50k?

I buy groceries and fill up my truck once a week. Thats $200 right there. In a fucking week!

[apply85]

you guys gotta know hwo to shop and how to cook

2 whole chickens from a halal joint, plenty of them in nyc

cut them up, take skin and fat trimmings and bones and make stock from them. which means throw in some water, NO SALT, celery, onion, carrot, and into oven at 200 degrees for 4-6 hours, not boiling but just about

take breast, cut it up into strips, take a some coconut milk with water, green thai curry paste, fish sauce, if u want also some thai veggies like thai chillies, baby eggplant, thai basil, but these are not necessary. also put some of the chicken stock in so that the chicken is not dry but nice and rich, and boil the chicken in the water + coconut milk + green curry paste mixture. u can saute some onion and garlic before u boil things. at the end ad a tea spoon or two of fish sauce, and squeeze several limes into it. do not boil after for two long as flavors of lime and fish sauce will cook out.

second dish, take the thighs and legs and cut them up. take some onion and carmelize them... this means in butter and on LOWEST HEAT FLAME with lid on skillet for 15-20 minutes, now take egg plants cut up in cubes and mix them in, thro winw hatever else you want like mushrooms or garlic FUCK IT ITS A PARTY, put in some stock and them some crushed tomatoes, cook until the eggplants are nice and soft or almsot soft, throw in the chicken and cook till done

of course salt and pepper to taste BEFORE u put in the chicken, u dont want the water to pull the sodium out of the chicken and make it dry, make sure there is more sodium in the water than is naturally in the chicken

[aesthetics]

Word.  I don’t do much shopping in my house; the few times I tag along or do the shopping myself I am totally shocked at how much groceries are.  And as you said it’s not because you’re buying luxury items like lobster.  Toilet tissue, a few boxes of cereal, some salmon, soap, eggs, veggies… you blink and the bill is pushing $100+ dollars.  What can you do?  You pay it… but I always leave the store thinking… OMG!  How do people manage if they make $30k, $40k, or $50k?

debt. debt is how people manage to live, yet still paycheck to paycheck. debt has been the only thing driving the economy for the past 30 years as wages have depreciated. borrowing debt in order to buy things has been the only thing driving aggregate demand in the economy as real wages have decreased, however, as we've seen with the housing bubble crash, it creates a lot of instability as the debt is loaned on the premise that there will be continued economic growth in the future many times on the assumption of very large levels of economic growth, which is not always true and especially with regard to consumer buying power as that has been continually shrinking.

[kh300]

you guys gotta know hwo to shop and how to cook

 

I do. ''hey honey I'm fucking starving''