what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day

[BIG ACH]

This is a very very very good point. I never liked "robots" ..robots think they know it all. I always like the guy or girl that could blend in some social skills also. Knows how to talk to the crowd then go into robot mode to get the job done.

100% Robots you keep in a room and don't allow them to talk to humans. You work the shit out of them and don't let them interact with anybody. The talker that has skills  I feel comfortable he won't say something stupid and bring heat to the department. He/she knows how to put out fires without lifting a finger.

Exactly....  This is part of the reason, why I always felt out of place while I studied Engineering in college...  Aside from the fact that I was a competitive bodybuilder so automatically I looked different than everyone else in the program...  but it wasn't just looks....  from a technical side, I was just like everyone else... but from a social side... the vast majority was very different than how I was... I'm generally chatty, easy going, very much a people's person etc...  and most of the people in the program were nothing like that, many were reserved, shy, awkward, very smart.... some much smarter than me, but they just didn't know how to hold a conversation.
I guess thats why most of my close friends in undergrad were from different programs.

There were a lot of robots around me :-) and I wonder where they are today!

[K-1]

Exactly....  This is part of the reason, why I always felt out of place while I studied Engineering in college...  Aside from the fact that I was a competitive bodybuilder so automatically I looked different than everyone else in the program...  but it wasn't just looks....  from a technical side, I was just like everyone else... but from a social side... the vast majority was very different than how I was... I'm generally chatty, easy going, very much a people's person etc...  and most of the people in the program were nothing like that, many were reserved, shy, awkward, very smart.... some much smarter than me, but they just didn't know how to hold a conversation.
I guess thats why most of my close friends in undergrad were from different programs.

There were a lot of robots around me :-) and I wonder where they are today!

Unless they landed a job somewhere where they are bolted to a chair and told not to talk or move, they are probably not even in the field.

My best quality is my ability to get along with multiple types of personalities. This helps when you need to extract information needed to satisfy something. Humans are sources to me. There is something you know that I don't....I need to extract it basically therefore I need to build good credit with that human.

One of the best investments in life is investing and having good credit with people...and I don't mean manipulating them..I"m talking just being a kind soul. People will never forget you for being nice to them when so many have treated them like dog shit before.

[BIG ACH]

Unless they landed a job somewhere where they are bolted to a chair and told not to talk or move, they are probably not even in the field.

My best quality is my ability to get along with multiple types of personalities. This helps when you need to extract information needed to satisfy something. Humans are sources to me. There is something you know that I don't....I need to extract it basically therefore I need to build good credit with that human.

One of the best investments in life is investing and having good credit with people...and I don't mean manipulating them..I"m talking just being a kind soul. People will never forget you for being nice to them when so many have treated them like dog shit before.

BINGO!  Reminds me of a class I took during my Masters... it was 'Organizational Behavior" and it was taught by the CFO of the University (I went to George Washington University).  This guy had a Bachelors in Engineering, an MBA, a PhD in Engineering, and a CPA.....and on top of it all he had an AWESOME personality, and constantly talked about his smoking hot Persian wife (his words, not mine)... this dude was the shit!

but I remember him always saying in class, over and over and over, multiple times, "BE NICE! JUST BE NICE!!"  and talking about how people will remember you when you are nice... if you know your stuff from a professional side, this will be enough for them to respect you, but your personality is what will drive them to work better with you!

Good stuff right there!

[reppingfor20]

One of the many reasons why college is important is because college enhances your ability to become a critical thinker.

exactly, college is not about training you for the job market, it is about educating you, and in the process are forced to become a critical thinker and question certain things, then have a discussion about it, this is without any name calling or fist's flying, all gentlemen like, unlike here.

[reppingfor20]

Interesting observation.
Id agree, seems people in my age group expect to be handed 100k jobs and none of them want to do the footwork, they all want everything handed to them and they dont want to work for any of it.
Were gonna be in trouble when all those positions need to be filled, and we dont have qualified people to fill them.

they will have to fill them with so called un qualified workers, um maybe train the people on the job, what is the big fuckin deal, they ask for too much anyhow for mediocre positions.

[reppingfor20]

One of the major problems of this generation is a lack of work ethic and blaming everyone for their lack of wealth. Do you think 30 years ago it was easy to earn a living if you were young?  Yes, the economy is bad but saying whoa is me and everyone owes me will get you no where.

Yes it was much easier and a college degree meant much more, now that anybody can get one with a gov't secured loan, they are worthless.  Also the country being in a huge depression doesn't help, so stop trying to call this current generation crap because they are just trying to get by like the last generation did, except the last generation had it a lot easier, that is why they didn't complain as much, humans don't change that much, we are much alike.

[reppingfor20]

That's actually a load of bullshit. Todays generation works harder and is better educated on average than the generation before it. Your just trying to justify why were getting fucked.

Sure our attitude to work is alot less honest and far more cynical but that's simply a result of us being more aware of whats going on.

The past generation had a naive notion that working hard pays off and it's simply bullshit when you start crunching the numbers.

You can quote all the random success stories you want the reality is working hard isn't enough anymore.

QFT, good post

[reppingfor20]

debt. debt is how people manage to live, yet still paycheck to paycheck. debt has been the only thing driving the economy for the past 30 years as wages have depreciated. borrowing debt in order to buy things has been the only thing driving aggregate demand in the economy as real wages have decreased, however, as we've seen with the housing bubble crash, it creates a lot of instability as the debt is loaned on the premise that there will be continued economic growth in the future many times on the assumption of very large levels of economic growth, which is not always true and especially with regard to consumer buying power as that has been continually shrinking.

good post

[reppingfor20]

this generation will be part of one of the greatest generations because of all the struggle and hustling they will have to learn to do to get by.  Just like the generation that came out of the great depression, they learned to get by with what they had.

[kh300]

exactly, college is not about training you for the job market, it is about educating you, and in the process are forced to become a critical thinker and question certain things, then have a discussion about it, this is without any name calling or fist's flying, all gentlemen like, unlike here.

Bullshit. Its exactly what they do. Its why you pick a major, so they can ''train you for a job''. You dont need to drop 100k to be a critical thinker. Bring over a case of beer to my house and we can question some things without going into debt for the rest of our lives. I have a room full of books I've read. I've learned more from those books then anything that was taught in college.

Everyone knows college is for fucking, beer, road trips, sleeping till noon, and walking around in your pajamas. Its not for any real work experience.

I bet nobody uses a skill the learned in college at work. Its all for that piece of paper.

[rotaryfan]

If everyone's getting ahead, what exactly is left behind


Not sure where you are going with this statement...  What I was trying to say is that there are very few people of my generation that are willing to work hard to gain the financial benefit that they want/feel entitled too. Ive been working at a warehouse while i have been going to school and when the company cut back hours only a small handful of people went out to find second jobs to make up for their lost wages. Meanwhile i work 7 days a week for 4 months straight during the summer so i can afford to go to school without taking out a student loan. On top of that i work holidays and pick up extra hours whenever i can to supplement my income during the school year, on top of my regular shifts.  There does not seem to be many people my age who want to work overtime or pick up extra shifts or second jobs to try to get ahead. Instead they all seem to work 4 days a week and play computer games in their spare time instead of dedicating at least some of their time to looking for a better job/ or taking courses that will increase their wage.

[rotaryfan]

Not sure where you are going with this statement...  What I was trying to say is that there are very few people of my generation that are willing to work hard to gain the financial benefit that they want/feel entitled too. Ive been working at a warehouse while i have been going to school and when the company cut back hours only a small handful of people went out to find second jobs to make up for their lost wages. Meanwhile i work 7 days a week for 4 months straight during the summer so i can afford to go to school without taking out a student loan. On top of that i work holidays and pick up extra hours whenever i can to supplement my income during the school year, on top of my regular shifts.  There does not seem to be many people my age who want to work overtime or pick up extra shifts or second jobs to try to get ahead. Instead they all seem to work 4 days a week and play computer games in their spare time instead of dedicating at least some of their time to looking for a better job/ or taking courses that will increase their wage.

[reppingfor20]

Bullshit. Its exactly what they do. Its why you pick a major, so they can ''train you for a job''. You dont need to drop 100k to be a critical thinker. Bring over a case of beer to my house and we can question some things without going into debt for the rest of our lives. I have a room full of books I've read. I've learned more from those books then anything that was taught in college.

Everyone knows college is for fucking, beer, road trips, sleeping till noon, and walking around in your pajamas. Its not for any real work experience.

I bet nobody uses a skill the learned in college at work. Its all for that piece of paper.

Contrary to your belief, college is not a place that trains you for a job lol, have you gone to college?  Some degree's you have a skill set, but they are not training you for any specific job, it is up to you to find a job that matches your skill set.  Critical thinking does not occur with a bunch of guys sitting on sofa's drinking beer either.  You can get internships while at college, college was never meant for any real work experience, it's a place of higher learning bro.

Yes their are exceptions that you will point out, doctor, nurse, etc, but those are not the majority of people who attend a university.

I think you are thinking of a trade school, not a college. 

[hematocritter]

People laugh at me when I tell them I work at Wal-Mart.  

Fuck them, respect to you for being out there and working.
People like that remind of those assholes that are unemployed losers, yet treat drive through
workers at fast food joints as if they were animals.
I respect anyone that  works hard for their money.

Possibly losing your life because you can't find a job just doesn't seem right to me

There was a time in my life where I felt it was my calling, it was something that I felt I needed to
do. When I was younger, my idols were true heroes like Randy Shughart and Gary Gordon.
I'm not saying I wanted to die and be a hero, but I just had tremendous respect for men like that
and wanted to serve my country.

[G_Thang]

Lol, I work for Wal-Mart. I work on the distribution center side of the business.  They start Internal managers at 45k(not including bonus) which means you could negotiate for more.  It's not great pay, but it's better then most people these days.

never laughed at a person in my life who had their hustle on for a direct deposit.  i don't remember reading big layoffs at wal-mart.

[HTexan]

you know what though, they have said the same thing for healthcare

there are a lot of people who gave up their majors in college or went back to college for healthcare, to be a nurse (HOly shit there are soooo many people in my age group (young 20's) who are going back to school to be a nurse! gat damn!)

we'll see how that goes 


yes we all know engineering is pretty fucked right now, esp with the lack of funds from government and the shitty economy
i have a feeling that healthcare is the industry to look at soon, the collapse of it, rather

hey, RNs and LVNs are still in need. I don't know how much longer tho. The market is getting flooded from what I hear.

[pluck]

Police agencies love military backrounds.

Not true.

Most military people are order takers...which is a different skill set. Factor is PTSD ...

A regular street cop on patrol has to do a lot more critical thinking than order taking.

(My marine buddy was in this exact scenario)

[G_Thang]

hey, RNs and LVNs are still in need. I don't know how much longer tho. The market is getting flooded from what I hear.

they pretty much won't hire new grads in cali, want 2 yrs exp, so grads have to leave the state to find work.  i know people who started nursing and got hell out.  they didn't factor in the patient bed pans and douchebag, arrogant docs.

[Voland]

Todays youth suck.
I decided to ask at college is someone wanted to work for me. I offered:
- 50€ per sale cash
- they can work as many hours as they want
- they can work at the time they want
- if they dunno where to start i give them a lists of potential clients and all they have to do is go there explain them the product and seal the deal
- getting paid every week, every 15 days or at the end of the month, as they prefer.

ALL of them said "oh no". "Its not my thing", "so if i don't sell i don't get paid?" "i'm studying to avoid this types of jobs..."
This are people from 18-22 with no working experience, no finished college degree and they get all picky over a great paid job. They deserve being unemployed.

[reppingfor20]

Todays youth suck.
I decided to ask at college is someone wanted to work for me. I offered:
- 50€ per sale cash
- they can work as many hours as they want
- they can work at the time they want
- if they dunno where to start i give them a lists of potential clients and all they have to do is go there explain them the product and seal the deal
- getting paid every week, every 15 days or at the end of the month, as they prefer.

ALL of them said "oh no". "Its not my thing", "so if i don't sell i don't get paid?" "i'm studying to avoid this types of jobs..."
This are people from 18-22 with no working experience, no finished college degree and they get all picky over a great paid job. They deserve being unemployed.

yeah working in a sales job, where they can never get paid unless they sell something, what are you selling, they are probably very smart not to take your offer, you are just exploiting young youth to go out and do the work you don't want to.  Also they have gov't loans that they have money for extra shit anyhow now days, they don't need extra money, but they will need help paying back those loans after they are done lol, you can't get outta the gov't college loans, unlike private loans from banks.

[FitnessFrenzy]

seriously

i have a friend who just graduated less than a month ago, tells me how he's bored all the time

i have some friends who haven't found full time jobs in over a year and a half after graduation

what the fuck do these people do all day

I wipe the asses of old people. At least I don't get paid very much.

[Man of Steel]

btw, you all do realize that the punchline to this thread is: "they come on here and discuss how Diet Soda makes you fat and how Christopher Hitchens was a "brave, genius" "

LOL!!

[FitnessFrenzy]

BINGO!  Reminds me of a class I took during my Masters... it was 'Organizational Behavior" and it was taught by the CFO of the University (I went to George Washington University).  This guy had a Bachelors in Engineering, an MBA, a PhD in Engineering, and a CPA.....and on top of it all he had an AWESOME personality, and constantly talked about his smoking hot Persian wife (his words, not mine)... this dude was the shit!

but I remember him always saying in class, over and over and over, multiple times, "BE NICE! JUST BE NICE!!"  and talking about how people will remember you when you are nice... if you know your stuff from a professional side, this will be enough for them to respect you, but your personality is what will drive them to work better with you!

Good stuff right there!

What we remember from 5 - 10 years ago of our lives are the really positive experiences and the really negative experiences. Unless you have some patented technology, which everyone wants to buy regardless of your behaviour, I agree with you mostly here Ach.

[Voland]

yeah working in a sales job, where they can never get paid unless they sell something, what are you selling, they are probably very smart not to take your offer, you are just exploiting young youth to go out and do the work you don't want to.  Also they have gov't loans that they have money for extra shit anyhow now days, they don't need extra money, but they will need help paying back those loans after they are done lol, you can't get outta the gov't college loans, unlike private loans from banks.

lol Exploiting? There is no job where they can get paid that much with no experience or skills. They'll end up in McD and will keep complaining.
They are sellers their only goal is to sell, if they don't sell they don't get paid. What the hell do they expect, getting paid for doing nothing? lazy fucks.
I sell renewable energy. Its the fastest growing market and one of the why which has not only not been affected by recession but has grown 30%.
My job is to make sure those lazy fucks get paid.

[Man of Steel]

Kids today, fresh outta school, can't find work because there are still a lot of educated, experienced professionals looking for work that have been out of work and are settling for less to support their families.  Companies are trying to do way more with less and would rather invest in solid talent that can produce while dumping twice the work on them rather than hiring 2 or 3 inexperienced, newly-grads that haven't proven a thing yet.   In addition, companies are sending all the entry-level work to India and paying far less there than they would with an inexperienced, newly-grad salary.