How much can a real natural bodybuilder bench press?

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

what was your weight when you were natural GH15??..

I come in,,,,170lbs,,,natural before I touch hormones,,,,very strong very very,,,,no hormones did not touch till I was 18,,,


gh15 approved

[gh15]

In other words, strength is all heart and bb muscles are all crap.

very good! and corect!

gh15 approved

[cephissus]

How about we put this way.

10x135 - your avarage gym guy
10x185 - better than average
10x225 - advanced. Good lift.
10x275 - impressive!

10x315 - I don't think this is worth mentinion for. Let's say it's rare.

I think this is a good answer

i got 265 x 8 as my best, or 300 x 3 (not sure which is better).  Probably could have done more if I hadn't been so stupid and had such bad technique.  It was my dream to do 275 x 10, and i fucked myself up JUST as I was about to get it 

[purenaturalstrength]

In other words, strength is all heart and bb muscles are all crap.

well i have a lot of heart, does this mean i can get strong with no drugs

[gh15]

well i have a lot of heart, does this mean i can get strong with no drugs

yes you can get very strong with no drugs aka treuly natural ,, you just going to look stiff,, stiff! but one strong mother fuckerf lol


gh15 approved

[purenaturalstrength]

yes you can get very strong with no drugs aka treuly natural ,, you just going to look stiff,, stiff! but one strong mother fuckerf lol


gh15 approved

fantastic

ronnie coleman said "keep the faith and accept your calling"


this might be it

[chess315]

I am 100% for a fact no people have benched 500 natural I have seen many 450 benching naturals steroid free. Steroids dont give that great a perfromance boost as many think 20% maybe. 600lb bencher would be 400-500 benchers with no juice

[purenaturalstrength]

I am 100% for a fact no people have benched 500 natural I have seen many 450 benching naturals steroid free. Steroids dont give that great a perfromance boost as many think 20% maybe. 600lb bencher would be 400-500 benchers with no juice

so are you saying scot mendelson could have benched 572 naturally?

since he did bench 715 raw non drug tested.

[Ursus]

Steroids I think add about 30% strength POTENTIALLY

[purenaturalstrength]

Steroids I think add about 30% strength POTENTIALLY

this would put scot mendelson in 500lbs natural bench range

[Ursus]

Yea but a superfat strong natural could possible get a bit more.

When I was younger I thought i would bench 500 naturally one day.

I am not built for it and never will.

I would like to thing I could hit 450.

There are guys about 90kg, thick and about 5'9 in my gym not a kick in ass of 400lbs wide grip strong bones etc is a massive factor.

I am sure there are shorter, fatter guys with less ROM who with specific training could be incredibly impressive!

[Mawse]

regular person, maybe 315 depending on genetics and training

meso-studmuffin natural athlete negra 315-365

[chess315]

so are you saying scot mendelson could have benched 572 naturally?

since he did bench 715 raw non drug tested.

I seen fat black guys and bikers do it in the joint there are lots of guys in every big yard that can bench 400+ not bodybuilders and i know steroids I know most of these cases where natural if your willing to get fat you can get fucking strong don't kid yourself. 30% is way to high gear does not add 30% to strength maybe some monster 5gram tren oral cycle I doubt it though. 15-20%  is the general. Scott would be able to bench 500 easy with out gear prolly near 550. I would say 600 is possible in the best genetic case of a near 400lb fat man. where steroids power lies in the ability to let you hold muscle while lean. The average run of the mill white guy bulked to 260-270 could prolly get 400 or close

[chess315]

regular person, maybe 315 depending on genetics and training

meso-studmuffin natural athlete negra 315-365

a regular 15% or under a fat person white/black could eat them numbers for dinner I seen a fat guy hit 315 20 fucking times in prison moron guy no diet didn't train legs nothing.

[Xerxes]

What do you think this guy is on 

He is obviously tested very often because of competition sooo is it possible that he's natural?

[chess315]

What do you think this guy is on  

He is obviously tested very often because of competition sooo is it possible that he's natural?

no he's not natual but he is lean he could be just as strong fat and natural. He is on test base ,tren base prolly and orals

[purenaturalstrength]

I seen fat black guys and bikers do it in the joint there are lots of guys in every big yard that can bench 400+ not bodybuilders and i know steroids I know most of these cases where natural if your willing to get fat you can get fucking strong don't kid yourself. 30% is way to high gear does not add 30% to strength maybe some monster 5gram tren oral cycle I doubt it though. 15-20%  is the general. Scott would be able to bench 500 easy with out gear prolly near 550. I would say 600 is possible in the best genetic case of a near 400lb fat man. where steroids power lies in the ability to let you hold muscle while lean. The average run of the mill white guy bulked to 260-270 could prolly get 400 or close

that's one hell of a price to pay

so in your observation in these prisons, how much could the strongest non fat guys bench? 315?

[purenaturalstrength]

What do you think this guy is on 

He is obviously tested very often because of competition sooo is it possible that he's natural?

i think a good way of getting an idea what these guys are on is to check the banned substances they get busted for all the time



can only recall some females got caught with stanozolol dont know what the men usually get caught with

[chess315]

that's one hell of a price to pay

so in your observation in these prisons, how much could the strongest non fat guys bench? 315?

black guys sometimes get near 400 at 10% bf or so white guys maybe 350 -360 some what lean. That not completely a good guide though there are more young blacks in prison so they have an advantage in that they have a better genetic pool to work with. Whites are there for  crimes you don't have to be ass tough for also. You better be a pretty bad ass if your selling crack in your projects or you will get ran over. I you had a more even number of young whites I would guess it would be a lot closer funny the whites for the most part win the basket ball,softball and blah blah.

[chess315]

500 deadlift is common in guys all sizes and leaness not that rare in prison.  A lot of guys can deadlift 500.  Squat are  not quite as popular .  Prisoners love deadlifts. Powerlifting usa is very popular most old timers have cam to the concusion powerlifting is much better then bodybuilding without diet and steroids which is 100% correct they know about 20 rep squats all that shit. Bugarian system ,smyslov westside

[purenaturalstrength]

500 deadlift is common in guys all sizes and leaness not that rare in prison.  A lot of guys can deadlift 500.  Squat are  not quite as popular .  Prisoners love deadlifts.

yeah 500 deadlift is pretty "easy" as in i can do that

it's the bench press the most challenging lift of all in myself and the people i have trained with over the years

[chess315]

yeah 500 deadlift is pretty "easy" as in i can do that

it's the bench press the most challenging lift of all in myself and the people i have trained with over the years

bill kazmier came and visited us anthony clark all kinds of people. I didnt know that good who bill kazmier was then so like and idoit I didnt pay much attention lol I did talk to anthony clark and he benched 500 a few times for us and stuff. Think ed coan goes to. Im so stupid i was right there with bill kazmier and could have gave a fuck less lol Old time wresters go a like arn anderson and people like that

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

What do you think this guy is on 

He is obviously tested very often because of competition sooo is it possible that he's natural?

epic early arm bend

[supernick]

got a fiend thats totally natural and he can bench 315 for 9

[StanZoLOL]

got a fiend thats totally natural and he can bench 315 for 9

I know some strong naturals too, but at the same time with the superdrols, hdrols etc being so available you never really know who's natty these days.